Mccarthy on notice, officially

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BigRobSA
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 10:31p, 10/2/23
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Logos Stick said:
TexAgs91 said:
I doubt Gaetz has enough republican votes to do this, which means he's wasting everyone's time and unnecessarily causing division in the party.

Unless his plan is to get support from democrats. But he wouldn't do that... Would he?


The Dems are on team McCarthy.


Gaetz can't succeed without the dems. So either he's on team democrat or he's only doing this for attention. Your pick.


Porque no Los dos?
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10:34p, 10/2/23
There are still people who support this groomer?
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12:51a, 10/3/23
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In the end the only winner here will be the Dems. Way to go Matt
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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 1:11a, 10/3/23
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Aggie4Life02 said:
The GOP is the swamp.
I don't think you know the origins of this word.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 6:07a, 10/3/23
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Ol_Ag_02 said:
I predict team Trump will eat this up.


Trump is pro-McCarthy because McCarthy said nice things about him.
Just give it a week, Trump will turn on him or McCarthy will turn on Trump. This is the truth with every relationship Trump has.
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6:25a, 10/3/23
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So many cowards.
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7:55a, 10/3/23
We have done shut downs, they always fail. It's like some don't realize the senate and President have power too.
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 8:11a, 10/3/23
TexAgs91 said:
I doubt Gaetz has enough republican votes to do this, which means he's wasting everyone's time and unnecessarily causing division in the party.

Unless his plan is to get support from democrats. But he wouldn't do that... Would he?
Matt Gaetz

Loomer
Boebert
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Donald Trump
Byron Donalds
Ana Maria Luna
Bannon
Roger Stone
Raheem

never in my lifetime has there been a more despicable set of Republican grifters and hacks and those who simply want to watch the country burn while they get rich from their dupes.

and that includes the Nixon Administration.
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In reply to LMCane • 8:34a, 10/3/23
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What would DeSantis do?
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In reply to Stive • 8:35a, 10/3/23
Stive said:
I predict McCarthy will survive.
Yeah
Who would replace him?
Is there a candidate?
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In reply to C@LAg • 8:37a, 10/3/23
C@LAg said:
Stive said:
I predict McCarthy will survive.
hugely.

the dems will vote with team McC because everyone is tired of Gaetz faux bull*****
although if I was a democrat politician I would want Gaetz to win and McCarthy defeated

simply to watch the GOP burn their own House down.

it would result in bad press, more Americans seeing the utter dysfunction in the GOP and then Gaetz and Trump are the faces of the Republican party.

that is a democrat party politician's dream.
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In reply to LMCane • 8:52a, 10/3/23
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LMCane said:
C@LAg said:
Stive said:
I predict McCarthy will survive.
hugely.

the dems will vote with team McC because everyone is tired of Gaetz faux bull*****
although if I was a democrat politician I would want Gaetz to win and McCarthy defeated

simply to watch the GOP burn their own House down.

it would result in bad press, more Americans seeing the utter dysfunction in the GOP and then Gaetz and Trump are the faces of the Republican party.

that is a democrat party politician's dream.


What would DeSantis do?
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10:25a, 10/3/23
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Just heard that Minority Leader Jeffries just said that the Democrats will be voting against the Speaker
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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10:35a, 10/3/23
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Who's the replacement Speaker going to be?
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In reply to The Kraken • 10:37a, 10/3/23
The Kraken said:
Just heard that Minority Leader Jeffries just said that the Democrats will be voting against the Speaker
They think they can actually get a Democrat in the position, or they'll get the most liberal Republican who will go along with whatever they want.

Then Gaetz and his little band of MAGA troublemakers will whine that the House is now giving the Democrats everything they want, when it will be their own fault.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 10:42a, 10/3/23
Rapier108 said:
The Kraken said:
Just heard that Minority Leader Jeffries just said that the Democrats will be voting against the Speaker
They think they can actually get a Democrat in the position, or they'll get the most liberal Republican who will go along with whatever they want.

Then Gaetz and his little band of MAGA troublemakers will whine that the House is now giving the Democrats everything they want, when it will be their own fault.


There is a non zero chance five republicans vote for Jeffries.

This is going to be entertaining.
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10:54a, 10/3/23
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The dems will probably join him, vote out McCarthy, then sit back and laugh at the Republican infighting that Gaetz put the spotlight on.

End result: they'll likely re-elect McCarthy, after they've renegotiated.
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In reply to valvemonkey91 • 10:56a, 10/3/23
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valvemonkey91 said:
I stand with Gaetz. **** these people.
Yes, replacing Mcarthy will fix everything and we won't have to negotiate with the Dems anymore on anything. Now, which one is the eyeroll emoji...or is that extra?
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11:04a, 10/3/23
Is it happening?

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In reply to will25u • 11:17a, 10/3/23
will25u said:
Is it happening?

Gaetz thinks he is going to be Speaker, when all he and his band of MAGA kamikazes are going to do is give the Democrats control of the House.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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11:25a, 10/3/23
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Lots of spineless get along to go along types on this thread. Where is the accountability. Gaetz agreed to vote for McCarthy as speaker provided a few certain items occur. McCarthy did not abide by his word. Gaetz is actually doing what he said he would do.
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In reply to jt2hunt • 11:27a, 10/3/23
jt2hunt said:
Lots of spineless get along to go along types on this thread. Where is the accountability. Gaetz agreed to vote for McCarthy as speaker provided a few certain items occur. McCarthy did not abide by his word. Gaetz is actually doing what he said he would do.
Gaetz and his MAGA ilk torpedoed a much more conservative bill than the one which was initially passed.

Then he pitches a fit because he didn't like the bill that was passed.

It was all a setup for him to blow up the House because he's been wanting to destroy McCarthy since day 1.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 11:29a, 10/3/23
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Gaetz is doing what he said. McCarthy did not follow what he said he would do if elected Speaker.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 11:31a, 10/3/23
Rapier108 said:
will25u said:
Is it happening?

Gaetz thinks he is going to be Speaker, when all he and his band of MAGA kamikazes are going to do is give the Democrats control of the House.
The D's will not get the Speaker position.
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In reply to jt2hunt • 11:36a, 10/3/23
jt2hunt said:
Gaetz is doing what he said. McCarthy did not follow what he said he would do if elected Speaker.
And Gaetz set it up by killing a bill which had almost everything he wanted.

This is nothing but Gaetz being a little ***** because he wants to blow up the House rather than actually trying to pass useful legislation.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to will25u • 11:36a, 10/3/23
will25u said:
Rapier108 said:
will25u said:
Is it happening?

Gaetz thinks he is going to be Speaker, when all he and his band of MAGA kamikazes are going to do is give the Democrats control of the House.
The D's will not get the Speaker position.
Not directly, but they can all vote for the most liberal Republican for Speaker which would almost be the same thing.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 11:38a, 10/3/23
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Who cares about one bill that had "almost" in it. Point is about McCarthy not doing what he said he would do in order to get the Speakership.

I have no problem whatsoever with what Gaetz is doing.

Frame it with whatever language makes you happy. This is on McCarthy.
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In reply to BluHorseShu • 11:38a, 10/3/23
BluHorseShu said:
valvemonkey91 said:
I stand with Gaetz. **** these people.
Yes, replacing Mcarthy will fix everything and we won't have to negotiate with the Dems anymore on anything. Now, which one is the eyeroll emoji...or is that extra?
Missed the point by a mile.

Go along to get along GOP is what is wrong with the party and why the country keeps drifing leftward.

More people need to start demanding their "conservative" leaders start acting like conservatives rather than constantly make excuses for why their leaders can half-ass the conservative ideology.
Learn about the Texas Nationalist Movement
https://tnm.me
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In reply to LMCane • 11:46a, 10/3/23
LMCane said:
C@LAg said:
Stive said:
I predict McCarthy will survive.
hugely.

the dems will vote with team McC because everyone is tired of Gaetz faux bull*****
although if I was a democrat politician I would want Gaetz to win and McCarthy defeated

simply to watch the GOP burn their own House down.

it would result in bad press, more Americans seeing the utter dysfunction in the GOP and then Gaetz and Trump are the faces of the Republican party.

that is a democrat party politician's dream.
The GOP needs to avoid bad press and keep its utter dysfunction a secret.
The fake anti-establishment, fake anti-war populist fakers among the Dems don't need anymore shaming from the actual firebrands on the Right. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
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In reply to jt2hunt • 11:51a, 10/3/23
jt2hunt said:
Who cares about one bill that had "almost" in it. Point is about McCarthy not doing what he said he would do in order to get the Speakership.

I have no problem whatsoever with what Gaetz is doing.

Frame it with whatever language makes you happy. This is on McCarthy.
Of course you don't, and you conveniently ignore the facts that don't fit your preconceived view.

This is why most of the country cannot stand MAGA. You people would rather burn it all down, and then blame everyone else for the fire, than actually try to do anything.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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11:52a, 10/3/23
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So, it just takes a simple majority?
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11:54a, 10/3/23
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Will anyone set off a fire alarm???
If you think I am a liberal, you are incorrect. Assume sarcasm on my part. Sorry if something I post has already been posted. Just the way it is!!
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In reply to Rapier108 • 11:58a, 10/3/23
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Rapier108 said:
jt2hunt said:
Who cares about one bill that had "almost" in it. Point is about McCarthy not doing what he said he would do in order to get the Speakership.

I have no problem whatsoever with what Gaetz is doing.

Frame it with whatever language makes you happy. This is on McCarthy.
Of course you don't, and you conveniently ignore the facts that don't fit your preconceived view.

This is why most of the country cannot stand MAGA. You people would rather burn it all down, and then blame everyone else for the fire, than actually try to do anything.


Would you allow DeSantis to passively let the Speaker ignore his agreements that were made to the conservatives in Congress? Just throw his hands up at the continuation of typical RINO behavior? Thus continuing with business as usual?
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 12:06p, 10/3/23
Funky Winkerbean said:

Would you allow DeSantis to passively let the Speaker ignore his agreements that were made to the conservatives in Congress? Just throw his hands up at the continuation of typical RINO behavior? Thus continuing with business as usual?
certain topics are verboten. add another
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