New Mexico Gov Suspends Second Amendment

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Rapier108 said:

beanbean said:

New Mexico has went the way of Australia and Canada. Places that used to seem kind of cool whose politicians are ruining them.
Much of New Mexico votes Republican. The problem is the two big population centers, Santa Fe and Albuquerque, are so heavily Democrat that they overwhelm the rest of the state which is rather sparsely populated.
Sand can't vote. People can. The people who live in New Mexico, by your account, do not in fact lean Republican. One voter inhabiting their own 100 acre cactus kingdom still counts 1/100 as much as 100 voters all living in a 2-acre apartment complex.
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GeorgiAg said:

Jock 07 said:

Quite telling that the resident libs are avoiding this thread like the plague. They can't even think of a way to argue for this insanity.


Libs, you want me to vote for Trump? Because this is the crap that will push me to vote for that orange a-hole.


**** Joe Biden
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Old May Banker said:

zwhag2010 said:

"Take the guns first, go through due process second"



Lol. Renowned conservative scholar Trump.
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Agthatbuilds said:



This is what a real fascist looks like


That's unbelievable. Wow.
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Agthatbuilds said:



This is what a real fascist looks like

Is there really a rash of people in public with a gun in their waistband or belt? Or is this lady making **** up to rile up her base? Does she have facts or evidence or projections that her proposals will solve the problem? How is lady any different than Trump in this capacity?
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This is wrong. It's just wrong
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Australian playbook: dress up facism with some soccer mom looking actor and people will fall in line.
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tysker said:

Agthatbuilds said:



This is what a real fascist looks like

Is there really a rash of people in public with a gun in their waistband or belt? Or is this lady making **** up to rile up her base? Does she have facts or evidence or projections that her proposals will solve the problem? How is lady any different than Trump in this capacity?
New Mexico is an open carry state, and lamenting that citizens exercise their right to do so as the state government has enacted laws to make that simple/legal, is sort of absurd.

She should be removed from office today, as should the attorney general if he/she so advised her on this.
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GeorgiAg said:

Jock 07 said:

Quite telling that the resident libs are avoiding this thread like the plague. They can't even think of a way to argue for this insanity.


Libs, you want me to vote for Trump? Because this is the crap that will push me to vote for that orange a-hole.


Trump went after bump stocks. Not only did he go after them, he did it through the tyranny of a three letter group overstepping it's authority (a common issue).

The law at issue in dc v Keller was about the same here and banned practically everything:
" Because of handguns' connection to both risks, the law specifically banned ownership of handguns, including sawed-off shotguns, machine guns, short-barreled rifles, and pistols,5 and required that lawful firearms (e.g., shotguns and rifles) be registered with the city. The law also required firearms kept in the home to be unloaded and disassembled or secured with a trigger lock.6 Taken together, these restrictions were viewed by many as the toughest in the nation."

That law was passed in 1975. Not far fetched to suspect that the (anticipated) makeup of the USSC might have been a factor in waiting until 2006 to start to challenge it. That aside, it went 5-4. One person. One person in the entire country decided whether we would be like what New Mexico wants or a free citizenry. Want to know what keeps that one person from becoming part of the majority on the USSC? Voting R. Not D.

Don't like this? Don't ever vote dem. Ever. Even if the media infected you with TDS and prevented you from rational thought.
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This is just like what happened in New Orleans during Katrina. Law and order break down, police cannot protect law abiding citizens. So the reaction of democrats? Take guns away from those citizens.
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Agthatbuilds said:



This is what a real fascist looks like
Having watched that whole clip, i cant decide if shes fascist, or a blithering idiot.

Ill go with both
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The leftists have been working for over a decade to position gun control as a public health emergency issue, and somehow subvert the 2nd amendment through that lens.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have the NM federal judge already hand picked. If it makes it to SCOTUS it won't win, but maybe that's the point - try to sway the 2024 election and set the stage for court packing.

Regardless, it's interesting they have played the card in the table. The Governor basically admits it's illegal.
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Kceovaisnt- said:

I am very opposed to this move. But perhaps it could work as a case study of how much it doesn't affect criminal acts involving firearms. It could even result in an increase in violence committed by gun wielding criminals.

You think Tuco's crew cares about laws like this?
there are plenty of countries that have done this for case study. The results don't matter to these leftists because it is all about control - they don't care about rising crime rates
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This is obviously not about logic, or it would simply be illogical that repealing concealed carry would deter criminals from carrying.

Look at the facts:

- real and violent gun criminals are being forgiven their bond infractions and set free repeatedly
- PR bonds are given out like Mardi Gras beads
- the courts are backed up so that violent criminals walk free for years without due process of the law. No politician is expanding the courts

Therefore, this is NOT about reducing gun crime. Gun crime is a useful tool for the purpose of controlling the population. Repealing concealed carry is a useful tool for the same reason. They want violent crime to grow so that we vote THEM more power. Strategy that Lenin used that's being repeated.

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AG81 said:

Zero chance this survives a court challenge.
Unless you get a leftist judge...
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Is this what saving democracy looks like?
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GeorgiAg said:

Jock 07 said:

Quite telling that the resident libs are avoiding this thread like the plague. They can't even think of a way to argue for this insanity.


Libs, you want me to vote for Trump? Because this is the crap that will push me to vote for that orange a-hole.


Even you yourself know this is an empty threat
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AG81 said:

Zero chance this survives a court challenge.

Are you thinking about in America, or now?
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New Mexico Gov Suspends Subverts Second Amendment

FIFY
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New Mexico residents need to figure out the names of her security detail and file red flag complaints against all of them.

Watch how fast it goes away if her detail can't carry.
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Pound sand Governor.
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aggiehawg said:



Pound sand Governor.


Actually, Bernalillo county encompasses almost all of Albuquerque. Get your popcorn, this will get interesting.
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Agthatbuilds said:



This is what a real fascist looks like
Yep, she is an absolute fascist and has been forever.

Don't forget that she was actually the worst coronatyrant in 2020.

She is the only official who enacted an actual "Wuhan style lockdown" when she shut down an entire town and deployed the national guard to keep everyone in their homes. She also had them put barricades up to keep anyone from entering or leaving the city.
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Rapier108 said:

Agthatbuilds said:


This is what a real fascist looks like
Yep, she is an absolute fascist and has been forever.

Don't forget that she was actually the worst coronatyrant in 2020.

She is the only official who enacted an actual "Wuhan style lockdown" when she shut down an entire town and deployed the national guard to keep everyone in their homes. She also had them put barricades up to keep anyone from entering or leaving the city.


Correct. She locked down the ski resort restaurants to ensure a miserable experience for all.
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I can't believe what is happening in this country.

This lady should be tarred and feathered and would have already been back in the day.
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BlackLab said:

This will clearly stop criminals from carrying guns.

When a reporter asks the question, she actually admits in her press conference that criminals won't stop carrying guns because of this. What a dumb ****.
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Demosthenes81 said:

Just a reminder that we are two Supreme Court appointments from losing our Constitution.
Truth.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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FrioAg 00 said:

The leftists have been working for over a decade to position gun control as a public health emergency issue, and somehow subvert the 2nd amendment through that lens.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have the NM federal judge already hand picked. If it makes it to SCOTUS it won't win, but maybe that's the point - try to sway the 2024 election and set the stage for court packing.

Regardless, it's interesting they have played the card in the table. The Governor basically admits it's illegal.
"The Governor basically admits it's illegal."
Which demonstrably proves those in Democratic Party leadership crap all over the laws they don't like. She openly admits what she is doing is wrong legally and does not care because she knows the minions and the MSM will cover for her. She admitted to violating her oath of office and should be impeached.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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f burg ag said:

TX_COWDOC said:

Lujan is a commie freak. Can't believe the fine people in Santa Fe and ABQ can't vote that crap out of office.
The fine people in Santa Fe make Austin look like a conservative Death Star.


Which is exactly why New Mexico is poor and backward compared to other western states. Nobody retaining the culture of Spanish colonization seems to turn out well in the end.
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outofstateaggie said:

Agthatbuilds said:



This is what a real fascist looks like


That's unbelievable. Wow.


Thus is Grade A typical liberal emotion based reactionary power grab.

Declare emergency and decide you can do whatever you want.

I hope both she and Biden get what's coming to them. Not violence, but the karmic wheel crushing their evil plans to smithereens.

And they should be mocked and shamed until they leave the earth.
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How is this different that temporarily suspending all driver's licenses and rights to drive your vehicle in an area due to a rash of road rage incidents or DWI fatalities? Something they'd likely never do.

Answer: driving rights aren't guaranteed by the US constitution.
So the fact that this is happening is much more egregious!

We have to stop allowing the government to trample on our rights.
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Actual political crimes- better arrest trump
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Emergency powers need to be struck down by the Supreme Court.

Governors can't just declare themselves dictator of the state whenever they please for any reason they please. This should be apparent to anyone.

Natural disasters, pandemics, civil unrest…
Constitutional protections, liberties, and freedoms should never be suspended for any reason. And governors and other elected officials should not have the power to do so. Laws that specify such powers should all be struck down.
 
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