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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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So you're saying the night sky could be an illusion perpetrated by aliens or someone else trying to trick us? That's a pretty wild take.

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Thread title fail. The guy is not SecDef/Intelligence. He was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Intelligence (supposedly). That's at least 4 levels lower than the SecDef, is a political position (most likely), and not all that important (except to his mom and girlfriend). And by no stretch of the imagination could one call him "the intelligence chief".

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You're correct. My error. Thanks.

Like a backdrop in a video game setting haha.

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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I agree with this...

The chances of them visiting is slim simply because, while there are 200 billion trillion stars and presumably more planets than that, the distances BETWEEN each one of them is immense. So, traveling to earth would take a extremely long time. Also, how would they know to come to earth? Why not one of the OTHER 200 billion trillion+ planets?

Ayylmaos

Do Not Look Behind The Curtain

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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So you're saying the night sky could be an illusion perpetrated by aliens or someone else trying to trick us? That's a pretty wild take.

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It may be the case that unobservable parts of the universe are only rendered when an observer is in a position to observe it.

In other words quantum theory which like imagining a 4th demention is incomprehensible to most humans.

But not us.

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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I agree with this...

The chances of them visiting is slim simply because, while there are 200 billion trillion stars and presumably more planets than that, the distances BETWEEN each one of them is immense. So, traveling to earth would take a extremely long time. Also, how would they know to come to earth? Why not one of the OTHER 200 billion trillion+ planets?

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I believe the odds favor there being life outside of our own solar system. Whether life is created by a Supreme Being or it evolves by chance does not matter for this discussion, the point is that if it can happen here for whatever reason then it can certainly have happened somewhere else. But the existence of life doesn't automatically mean intelligent life or even technologically advanced life so the odds go way down for that. But if an intelligent species with advanced technologies exists somewhere out there, then the overwhelming probability is that they're unable to overcome the physics of light years of separation and are asking the same questions that we are without finding an answer either.

OT - why would we ever want to expose ourselves to a more technologically advanced civilization? Our own history suggests that when a technologically inferior society interacts with a much more advanced society, then the former always ceases to exist. Broadcasting our existence and location to the universe is one of the stupidest things that humans have ever done IMO.

Our local area of the milky way is also far less dense than the average section of the galaxy. Our solar system is also one of the more rare kinds in the order of it's planets (gas giants at the perimeter and terrestrial planets at the inner). There are a number of things about our current situation that are actually fairly unique.

We have no idea all the variables that go into play to creating life, much less allowing it enough resources and time to conceivably evolve into intelligent, space explorers.

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Thread title says "we have".

The article says "he believes we have".

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Thread title says "SecDef" when he was not the Secretary of Defense

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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So you're saying the night sky could be an illusion perpetrated by aliens or someone else trying to trick us? That's a pretty wild take.

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It may be the case that unobservable parts of the universe are only rendered when an observer is in a position to observe it.

In other words quantum theory which like imagining a 4th demention is incomprehensible to most humans.

But not us.

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Interesting. Not sure I follow, but sounds more reasonable. What you're saying is the rendering or non-rendering of parts of the universe is based on laws of physics we don't understand, and not on the action of some alien entity. Basically? I'd agree that is possible.

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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So you're saying the night sky could be an illusion perpetrated by aliens or someone else trying to trick us? That's a pretty wild take.

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It may be the case that unobservable parts of the universe are only rendered when an observer is in a position to observe it.

In other words quantum theory which like imagining a 4th demention is incomprehensible to most humans.

But not us.

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Interesting. Not sure I follow, but sounds more reasonable. What you're saying is the rendering or non-rendering of parts of the universe is based on laws of physics we don't understand, and not on the action of some alien entity. Basically? I'd agree that is possible.

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Like a video game where the environment isn't actually rendered until you get to that part of the game.

Also look at the what they are seeing with this James Webb space telescope. They just came out and said the universe is twice as old as first estimated.

For years the estimated age of the universe was the same and they come out overnight and double it.

What else don't we know?

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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So you're saying the night sky could be an illusion perpetrated by aliens or someone else trying to trick us? That's a pretty wild take.

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It may be the case that unobservable parts of the universe are only rendered when an observer is in a position to observe it.

In other words quantum theory which like imagining a 4th demention is incomprehensible to most humans.

But not us.

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Interesting. Not sure I follow, but sounds more reasonable. What you're saying is the rendering or non-rendering of parts of the universe is based on laws of physics we don't understand, and not on the action of some alien entity. Basically? I'd agree that is possible.

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Like a video game where the environment isn't actually rendered until you get to that part of the game.

Also look at the what they are seeing with this James Webb space telescope. They just came out and said the universe is twice as old as first estimated.

For years the estimated age of the universe was the same and they come out overnight and double it.

What else don't we know?

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Agree all that is possible. And agree that a lot we think we know we could and probably are wrong about.

Nothing but a distraction as our evil government overlords take direct actions to end our freedoms.

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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I agree with this...

The chances of them visiting is slim simply because, while there are 200 billion trillion stars and presumably more planets than that, the distances BETWEEN each one of them is immense. So, traveling to earth would take a extremely long time. Also, how would they know to come to earth? Why not one of the OTHER 200 billion trillion+ planets?

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Several good comments above touching on the mind-boggling vastness of space. That vastness of trillions on trillions of stars and planets is often cited as support to the existence of advanced alien life. But that vastness also undercuts the ability to connect with other civilizations. Below is for anyone who could benefit from an exercise in putting this vastness (and our isolation) in better perspective.

• The Milky Way Galaxy is approximately 100,000 light years across.
• Take a sheet of paper 100 inches x 100 inches (about 8 ft x 8 ft.) This paper represents the area of the Milky Way, and we can all envision it as a spiral galaxy.
• The scale of the Galaxy represented by the paper is 1 inch equals 1000 light years, i.e. 100,000 light years divided by 100 inches = 1000 light years per inch.
• Put a dot in the center of the paper to represent the center of the Galaxy.
• Put a dot half way between the dot made for the center of the Galaxy and the edge of the paper this dot represents Earth.
• Reminder, Our scale is 1 inch equals 1000 light years.
• Now, draw a circle around Earth, so that Earth is in the center of the circle, and draw the circle 1/10th of an inch in diameter. That circle is 100 light years across - actually it is a 3D sphere, with Earth being in the center of the sphere, and it is 50 light years in each direction from Earth. The circle you just drew is 1/10th of an inch in diameter (!) and is probably indistinguishable from the dot you created to represent Earth!
• Now, envision the circle being 1/100th of an inch wide (0.25 millimeter) that is now 10 light years across. Wow, the circle is tiny, right? Earth is at the center of the sphere, and 5 LY from Earth to the edge of the circle.
• Within the 1/100th inch circle is one star system (Alpha Centauri) being approx. 4.25 light years from Earth.
• If you double the diameter of the circle to 1/50th inch wide, or 20 Light Years in diameter, there are 10 total stars to be found. The sphere is 20 LY across, with Earth at its center, so 10 LY from Earth to the edge of the circle.
• Don't walk away from our scale Galaxy because you may not be able to refind Earth on your paper!

We can all agree that the tiny 1/50th inch radius circle (20 light years across, or 10 light years in each direction from Earth) on our 8' x 8' paper, extends out a very very long distance from Earth. Going at the enormously fast speed of 5% the speed of light we can go 1 light year in 20 Earth years. The closest star, being 4.25 LY away, is now reachable (at best) in about 100 earth years (one way) with our new super-fast spaceship, plus or minus whatever allowances for human safety due to rapid acceleration and rapid deceleration must be made. The 10th furthest star can be reached in about 200 Earth years. That also assumes a lot of other sci-fi based fantasy tech is developed to create a vessel that sustains the human travelers for long journeys, including artificial gravity. It is not just a matter of going fast, but also surviving the journey. And even going super fast zipping across our 20 LY across sphere, we've barely left Earth's immediate area. And, it is unlikely any other technologically advanced civilization that faces the same laws of physics that we face has travelled into our tiny sphere of the Galaxy. The other civilization may exist, but unless they are living almost right next door to us, you have to believe our paths will not cross. The vastness of the Galaxy really is that big.

My hat is off the scientists who continually push the boundaries of what is possible. But don't come at me with theoretical wormholes or bending space, or other means of faster than light speed methods of travel. And as that great astrophysicist Casey Kasem once said, "keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars."

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Our local area of the milky way is also far less dense than the average section of the galaxy. Our solar system is also one of the more rare kinds in the order of it's planets (gas giants at the perimeter and terrestrial planets at the inner). There are a number of things about our current situation that are actually fairly unique.

We have no idea all the variables that go into play to creating life, much less allowing it enough resources and time to conceivably evolve into intelligent, space explorers.

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Not only that, but we as a species are often arrogant enough to think that since we know about how life exists on Earth, that makes it the absolute rule for how life exists EVERYWHERE.

Hell, aliens almost always have some kind of humanoid figure, too. So, billions of species exist on Earth that AREN'T human like, but any form that visits WILL BE?

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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So you're saying the night sky could be an illusion perpetrated by aliens or someone else trying to trick us? That's a pretty wild take.

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It may be the case that unobservable parts of the universe are only rendered when an observer is in a position to observe it.

In other words quantum theory which like imagining a 4th demention is incomprehensible to most humans.

But not us.

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Interesting. Not sure I follow, but sounds more reasonable. What you're saying is the rendering or non-rendering of parts of the universe is based on laws of physics we don't understand, and not on the action of some alien entity. Basically? I'd agree that is possible.

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Schrodinger's universe...

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Thread title fail. The guy is not SecDef/Intelligence. He was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Intelligence (supposedly). That's at least 4 levels lower than the SecDef, is a political position (most likely), and not all that important (except to his mom and girlfriend). And by no stretch of the imagination could one call him "the intelligence chief".

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DASD in I&S are almost all civilians.

They have political appointee subordinates but the principals themselves, all the way up to the Under are traditional civilians.

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66 years from Kitty Hawk to the Moon.
This rapid evolution fueled both rumors the moon landings were fake to we had alien technology help.

Latest on Congressional hearings: (today/Wednesday/ July 26)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12339997/ufo-hearing-tictac-whistleblower-house-oversight-committee-congress.html

TLDR:
David Grusch:
" The former US Intelligence agent also said that he knows of 'multiple colleagues' who were physically injured by UFOs either after encountering them or working on them as part of these special access programs.

Kicking off the hearing, Burchett described the hearing as 'historical.' "

Navy F18 pilot Graves:
" Graves said, as an F-18 pilot in the Red Rippers, their squadron was 'split by UAP' during a training mission near Virginia Beach in 2014.

He described the object as 'dark gray or black inside a transparent sphere.' It was about 15 feet in diameter and came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft.

The mission commander ended the flight, and the squadron submitted a safety report, Graves continued to explain.

'This story is more common than we expect,' Graves said: 'more than 30 witnesses had told his group about similar sightings.'

'Often, they are veterans with decades of flying experience,' he added.

Graves also said, 'UAPs are in our airspace but are grossly underreported.' "

And:
" Grusch said last month that the first recovery of a UFO was in Magenta, Italy, in 1933, and Mussolini's Italian government held it until 1944 through 1945 when Pope Pius XII tipped America off about it. "



So perhaps that 4th tier DoD intelligence bureaucrat was more credible than some here believe.

How know grusch is telling truth? Where's the evidence?

Former US intelligence official David Grusch claims under oath that aliens exist and that the US government is in possession of UFOs and non-human bodies. pic.twitter.com/oZ6J66dy4F

— Pop Base (@PopBase) July 26, 2023

Who is that brunette exhibiting "hot librarian" vibes?

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Who is that brunette exhibiting "hot librarian" vibes?

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Ms. Mace

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Former US intelligence official David Grusch claims under oath that aliens exist and that the US government is in possession of UFOs and non-human bodies. pic.twitter.com/oZ6J66dy4F

— Pop Base (@PopBase) July 26, 2023

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Whistleblowers say all these things, and are protected from perjury charges because they always include "I was told" or "I heard". They never seem to have even the slightest shred of evidence other than a photo that looks like it was taken with a 110 camera in 1980.

Awesome analogy. Thanks for posting. Really drives home the incredible vastness of the galaxy. I'll be sharing this with a few people.

There must be more coming out about Hunter Biden and the Big Guy for this to be happening now.

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200 billion trillion stars

There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine

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200 billion trillion stars. Seems like a decent chance there's other life in the universe. (Assuming God didn't limit life to just earth. Which is entirely possible.)
200 billion trillion stars. Chances of that other life visiting earth? Almost infinitesimal.

FUN to think about though! And a good distraction from the dystopian world that's being created here.

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ACTUALLY, there is just light from 200 billion trillion stars - photons - that could have been projected there by someone or something that only wants us to THINK space is huge.

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally, Marty.

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So you're saying the night sky could be an illusion perpetrated by aliens or someone else trying to trick us? That's a pretty wild take.

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It may be the case that unobservable parts of the universe are only rendered when an observer is in a position to observe it.

In other words quantum theory which like imagining a 4th demention is incomprehensible to most humans.

But not us.

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Interesting. Not sure I follow, but sounds more reasonable. What you're saying is the rendering or non-rendering of parts of the universe is based on laws of physics we don't understand, and not on the action of some alien entity. Basically? I'd agree that is possible.

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Schrodinger's universe...

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Fascinating!

Xenonite ?

https://projecthailmary.fandom.com/wiki/Xenonite

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All these leaks are building to something.

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Yep. Prepping for Biden to disclose it as an October surprise before the Presidential election.