Jade Helm 2.0.

Book it.

sanangelo said:

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More on the mobilization, where DoD admits the Ukraine war is where "fighting is severe."

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"This [executive order] reaffirms the unwavering support and commitment to defend NATO's eastern flank in the wake of Russia's illegal and unprovoked war on Ukraine," Sims said.
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Providing a current assessment of the fighting in Ukraine, Sims said the fighting is severe.

Source: D0D

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Note that this wording is indicative of Ukraine de facto being some quasi-member of NATO.

WBBQ74 said:

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Been retired since 2004 but I could use the vacation to Poland. Call me up, Joe. I dare you.

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I retired in 2016 after 20 years. I think I'm technically still in the Fleet Marine Corps Reserve for another three years.

If they call my fat ass to come back, I'm gonna tell them to get ****ed.

The reserve call-up is purportedly in support of this.

Soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 37th Armored Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division conduct rail operations of the units armored and wheeled vehicles in preparation for their upcoming rotation to Europe in support of Operation Atlantic Resolve at Fort Bliss. pic.twitter.com/mYIk7XvE7W

— Vigilant Heroes (@vigilantheroes) July 9, 2023

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SouthTex99 said:

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I'd guess we are fresh out of active duty personnel to rotate through due to not meeting recruiting goals.

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Draft is coming.

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I'm responding to your post at 6:36 and you've gotten only 3 blue stars, but yes.

It is coming, because it will be in the interest of the Democrat party. This is just a first/next step.

This is how one ramps up for war.

RebelE Infantry said:

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sanangelo said:

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More on the mobilization, where DoD admits the Ukraine war is where "fighting is severe."

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"This [executive order] reaffirms the unwavering support and commitment to defend NATO's eastern flank in the wake of Russia's illegal and unprovoked war on Ukraine," Sims said.
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Providing a current assessment of the fighting in Ukraine, Sims said the fighting is severe.

Source: D0D

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Note that this wording is indicative of Ukraine de facto being some quasi-member of NATO.

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How so?

pagerman @ work said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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sanangelo said:

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More on the mobilization, where DoD admits the Ukraine war is where "fighting is severe."

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"This [executive order] reaffirms the unwavering support and commitment to defend NATO's eastern flank in the wake of Russia's illegal and unprovoked war on Ukraine," Sims said.
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Providing a current assessment of the fighting in Ukraine, Sims said the fighting is severe.

Source: D0D

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Note that this wording is indicative of Ukraine de facto being some quasi-member of NATO.

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How so?

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The DoD general called it "NATO's eastern flank."

Burnsey said:

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OMG, I think they're calling up the troops to get prepared for a huge parade. It's gonna be fabulous! .

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All the swinging Richards will be the envy of all Pride parade participants.

Remember when Trump wanted to use the NG to control riots during BLM riots?

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Remember when Trump wanted to use the NG to control riots during BLM riots?

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Yeah, and he was blocked by Governors who loved the destruction of their cities instead.

That is not sarcasm, it is truth.

BUT! The other thing is that AG Barr had so many legal avenues and ways to stop the BLM riots but he chose not to use them. Barr also wanted the cities to burn. Why is that?

jagvocate said:

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This is how one ramps up for war.

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Wasn't alive for WWI nor WWII nor Korea for that matter. BUT saw what happened before Gulf War I and does sound very familiar since I know some reservists from back then.

Major Rachel Jones about to usher the gay army into a massive parade.

sanangelo said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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sanangelo said:

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More on the mobilization, where DoD admits the Ukraine war is where "fighting is severe."

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"This [executive order] reaffirms the unwavering support and commitment to defend NATO's eastern flank in the wake of Russia's illegal and unprovoked war on Ukraine," Sims said.
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Providing a current assessment of the fighting in Ukraine, Sims said the fighting is severe.

Source: D0D

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Note that this wording is indicative of Ukraine de facto being some quasi-member of NATO.

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How so?

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The DoD general called it "NATO's eastern flank."

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Operation Atlantic Resolve was begun in 2014, in response to Russia's attack on Ukraine. We have had troops deploying all over "NATO's eastern flank" (Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, etc.)since then. No troops have deployed to Ukraine as part of this operation. Were we to do so, that would be much bigger news that calling up some reservists.

Ukraine is not being referred to as "NATO's eastern front".

45-70Ag said:

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Major Rachel Jones about to usher the gay army into a massive parade.

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They need to bring back hazing in the military.

In the off chance some of yall would like some actual information to ya know, make informed speculations and whatnot:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/07/13/biden-allows-pentagon-tap-reservists-european-mission-amid-ukraine-war.html

And the summary of the exercise:

https://www.eucom.mil/document/39920/operation-atlantic-resolve-fact-sheet

IRR call ups have happened from time to time since invasion of Iraq. They are conducted on an individual basis and almost exclusively are used for critical skill assets that simply can't be found anywhere else. Majority are maintenance and logistics personnel. This is not a precursor to a draft. The truth is that certain skills that are needed are so niche, specialized, and in short supply that the US has always had a hard time maintaining numbers. There are entire MOS's devoted to keeping specific airframes in the air for example. That skill has become even more demanding with the complexity of the aircraft we see today. So when an operational exercise or deployment is pushed forward, especially a vehicle heavy one, standing forces often can't meet that surge. So a few IRR will be used to supplement the high level aspects. Again, almost entirely maintenance and logistics.

The military will also "deputize" civilian experts by commissioning them from time to time in other critical skill areas. Not uncommon in the 2000s for medical personnel for example. One of the docs who worked on me was a senior officer who a year prior had been a civilian with zero military experience. Awesome guy.

As time goes on and our forces become more and more modernized, certain skillsets are just flat out more invaluable than others and the amount of training and experience needed to get people to the level needed is staggering. An F-35 tech is more valuable than a trigger puller. Period. You can always find those, not so 4th and 5th gen fighter know how. So when an operation is slated to kickoff and you don't have enough on TOE.....enter the IRR.

So if you were combat arms, don't worry. They aren't coming for you. You can go ahead and order that pizza now and ignore working out for the 9th week in a row.

E_TX_Ag12 said:

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. Army Reserves doesn't have combat arms.

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Umm yes it does Aviation…I'm one of them

sanangelo said:

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The WH press release mentions "Operation Atlantic Resolve."

In other words, WWIII in the Ukraine. Seriously.

I am IRR and never thought anything could activate my old buttocks. (I haven't received any notice... yet).

Operation Atlantic Resolve via Wikipedia

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I was irr for desert shield/ desert storm. I believe it was the first time they used the irr status in order to prevent a draft situation. I can't believe they are using the irr for Ukraine. I was 11b infantry and in college when irr status was activated, most of the people were that way just out for 3 - 6 months but then they said on the news that 100,000 were reActivated I started asking around. Some people had only one month on there irr status of 8 years so they were out for almost 4-6 years. Some were lawyers, dentists, business owners, it was a mess as we were all in the infantry going to Iraq. So out of shape and overweight it was not good.

Forgot this part

We did our re basic training in ft benning and then got send to Germany. I still remember the Sargent that was re training us yelling " I know its cold and the snow is three feet high (this was in January) but pretend it's sand men and do your low crawl through the bobwire!!!!!!" We couldn't even see the bobwire and after about 2 hours of being on our belly the first guy only went about 20 feet.

Crazy times.

Old May Banker said:

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PA24 said:

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everyone should be required to serve 2 years of active duty.

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Unless they have bone spurs like your hero.

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TDS?

That 2 Weeks IRR training for a little extra cash and retirement points now is not going to be a vacation

My IRR time is up thank the lord…ain't no way I'm going back into this Army. I wouldn't last two weeks before I'm being kicked out for not saying the right pronouns

PA24 said:

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everyone should be required to serve 2 years of active duty.

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I would conscientiously object on the basis that the military is pushing LGBTQ ideology, and I consider that to be a moral evil.

Sounds like our new cold war is about to get hot!

DrEvazanPhD said:

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Old May Banker said:

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PA24 said:

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everyone should be required to serve 2 years of active duty.

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Unless they have bone spurs like your hero.

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TDS?

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No. SoTS. Sick of Trump's Sh*t.

Libtards get TDS. Real conservatives get SoTS.

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SouthTex99 said:

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I'd guess we are fresh out of active duty personnel to rotate through due to not meeting recruiting goals.

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If you are a white, straight, masculine male, why would you join? They hate your guts.

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This. Can you imagine fighting for this corrupt administration that hates this great nation.

In Vietnam, apparently Motor Pool Officers became a critical MOS. We had an old Chief Warrant show up that was called up and shipped out to our unit. He had to be in his 60s. Old, wrinkled, silver haired and onery as hell. It didn't help that he was from the NE somewhere. He hated the "Instant WOs" as he called them(pilots). He called them all "Airplane Drivers".

His consolation was that he had to go home on emergency leave and carried his 1911 in a shoulder holster right through multiple airports. When he returned, he told the Supply Officer he lost his. Weapons were everywhere in Viernam. I was Duty Officer one night and found an M-16 in a sand barrel on a bunker.

DrEvazanPhD said:

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Old May Banker said:

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PA24 said:

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everyone should be required to serve 2 years of active duty.

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Unless they have bone spurs like your hero.

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TDS?

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Deranged? No way... I ain't surrendering my principles to anyone in either party. I do find it amusing that the poster I originally replied to thinks everyone should be military but when presented a choice, pulls for the one that found a way to skirt military service... that's all.

C@LAg said:

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piss on ukraine.

no ukrainian is worth a single one of our transgender, half-push-up achieving, make-up wearing soldiers.

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On second thought, diversity is our strength.

Bird Poo said:

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Activating IRR is a big deal.

When was the last time that happened? Iraq? Vietnam?

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IRR troops were activated throughout OIF/OEF. We took 10-12 with my CAV Troop in 2010.

maverick2076 said:

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Bird Poo said:

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Activating IRR is a big deal.

When was the last time that happened? Iraq? Vietnam?

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IRR troops were activated throughout OIF/OEF. We took 10-12 with my CAV Troop in 2010.

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Came here to mention this as well.

Be concerned if they include the people kicked out for refusing the vaccine. That would indicate a desperate need to recover lost competence. If they don't mobilize the unvaxxed then it's just routine, especially if they don't Institute stop-loss at the same time.

The IRR mobilization is really disruptive and sets people back years financially that have been working hard to get established in a new job. For the self employed it can destroy whatever they have managed to build.

sanangelo said:

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The WH press release mentions "Operation Atlantic Resolve."

In other words, WWIII in the Ukraine. Seriously.

I am IRR and never thought anything could activate my old buttocks. (I haven't received any notice... yet).

Operation Atlantic Resolve via Wikipedia

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I'd rather go than my draft age sons.

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pagerman @ work said:

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TheBonifaceOption said:

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Ww3 because Americans can't stomach mean tweets.

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I don't think we're going to start WW3 with an additional "not more than 3,000" personnel at any one time.

I would guess it's more indicative of general attrition in the post Iraq/Afghanistan period and/or the need for certain specific specializations that they don't have sufficient numbers of in the active duty rosters. But that is a WAG.

Someone in the press should ask Biden. They won't, but they should.

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Escalation is escalation.

I'm old enough to remember when Xiden said sending tanks, vehicles, and planes to Kiev was escalation that was too dangerous.

Then they sent tanks, vehicles, and planes.

I'm also old enough to remember when Xiden warned Russia that cluster bombs were not to be used for human rights reasons.

Now we are sending cluster bombs.

We have only sent advisors and trainers up until this point.

Now we are activating reserves for additional war posturing.

What's next?

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We sent advisors into Vietnam first. You know the rest of the story.

Bird Poo said:

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Activating IRR is a big deal.

When was the last time that happened? Iraq? Vietnam?

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After 9/11.