fasthorse05 said:
Supposedly the pressure on the sub is 6000 pounds per square inch at 13,000 feet.
That's just staggering.
Anyone want to lay odds on someone in the next 24 hours stating this was caused by climate change?
CivilAg10 said:
Referencing the almighty engineer toolbox dot com, 5x factor of safety is within the typical range for boilers. Would think submersible pressure vessels are at least on that order. Also not a mech eng
BonfireNerd04 said:
How exactly was the sub able to communicate with its surface ship under two miles of water? This clearly must be possible in order for a lack of messages to be a concern.
CivilAg10 said:
Touche
JABQ04 said:fasthorse05 said:
Supposedly the pressure on the sub is 6000 pounds per square inch at 13,000 feet.
That's just staggering.
Anyone want to lay odds on someone in the next 24 hours stating this was caused by climate change?
If the industrial Revolution never would have happened, the ice berg would have never broken off from what ever glacier it was on, the titanic would have never sank and those people wouldn't have been down there in a sun.
Pumpkinhead said:
One of three scenarios happened from worst case to less worse but still really bad:
1) Lost hull integrity and imploded
2) Got snagged up in the wreckage and are sitting down there. Will be extremely difficult to rescue. Clock is ticking on life support.
3) Lost all power/communications but are floating around on the surface somewhere…finding a needle in haystack…they are bolted in from outside so will still eventually run out of air even in this scenario, just like scenario #2.
Let's hope it is scenario #3 and surface search spots them. Best case to hope for.
I would assume they would have a manual release to drop weight so they could float to the top, but who knows?bmks270 said:Pumpkinhead said:
One of three scenarios happened from worst case to less worse but still really bad:
1) Lost hull integrity and imploded
2) Got snagged up in the wreckage and are sitting down there. Will be extremely difficult to rescue. Clock is ticking on life support.
3) Lost all power/communications but are floating around on the surface somewhere…finding a needle in haystack…they are bolted in from outside so will still eventually run out of air even in this scenario, just like scenario #2.
Let's hope it is scenario #3 and surface search spots them. Best case to hope for.
Could have lost control and just drifting at 10,000 ft depth never to be found.
What I can't understand is that they designed it so it can't be opened from the inside. So even if your safety system floats you to the surface, you're still trapped inside.
And does anybody know how much water and food they bring down with them.
That's incredible. The seemingly cavalier attitude looks pretty awful now.Its Not Rocket Surgery said:
Seems safe...
CBS Sunday Morning - A Visit to RMS Titanic aboard the Titan submersible
What tool is required to crack the sub open and are the response units are outfitted with that tool?Quote:
Based on the video, they were bolted in with 15 large bolts from the outside.
Not true, a submarine is designed to sink, more precisely to control the buoyancy, positive or negative.TexasRebel said:CivilAg10 said:
Touche
Also, it has to be buoyant.
pdc093 said:
I'm watching news on this.
They just mentioned a 'safety feature' that could come into play. But, they're not going into ANY detail about it.
How horrifying for those involved.
The Green Dragon said:
Not just nope. No freaking nope. I am not doing that! I worked at a car lot in college and a few of the guys were ex enlisted submariners. They told me they'd stay under water for 6 months. That really takes a certain kind of person. I couldn't imagine doing that or the titanic thing.
You don't go down in a tube to the bottom of the Atlantic ocean unless you have too.
bmks270 said:Pumpkinhead said:
One of three scenarios happened from worst case to less worse but still really bad:
1) Lost hull integrity and imploded
2) Got snagged up in the wreckage and are sitting down there. Will be extremely difficult to rescue. Clock is ticking on life support.
3) Lost all power/communications but are floating around on the surface somewhere…finding a needle in haystack…they are bolted in from outside so will still eventually run out of air even in this scenario, just like scenario #2.
Let's hope it is scenario #3 and surface search spots them. Best case to hope for.
Could have lost control and just drifting at 10,000 ft depth never to be found.
What I can't understand is that they designed it so it can't be opened from the inside. So even if your safety system floats you to the surface, you're still trapped inside.
And does anybody know how much water and food they bring down with them.
ReloadAg said:
I had to keep myself from panicking when I boarded the Nemo submarine ride at Disneyland.
having a billion dollars in my bank account where I could travel the world and stay at the nicest resorts on the planet or on a massive yacht...dcbowers said:
5 people sharing a space that measures 22 ft x 9.2 ft x 8.3 ft for 4 days?
I think I'll pass.
Agree this is the most likely. Worked with the submersible Alvin for 6 years at Woods Hole Oceanographic. I would go down in that no problem and it can go deeper than the titanic. But after reading how this is put together, that would be a big nope ! The Alvin is a titanium sphere certified by the Navy and they don't mess around. It can drop everything and the sphere would float to the surface. It also has a hatch The whole bolting you in with no hatch scares the c**p out of me. Hope they find them bobbing around on the surface somewhere.Pumpkinhead said:
One of three scenarios happened from worst case to less worse but still really bad:
1) Lost hull integrity and imploded
2) Got snagged up in the wreckage and are sitting down there. Will be extremely difficult to rescue. Clock is ticking on life support.
3) Lost all power/communications but are floating around on the surface somewhere…finding a needle in haystack…they are bolted in from outside so will still eventually run out of air even in this scenario, just like scenario #2.
Let's hope it is scenario #3 and surface search spots them. Best case to hope for
based on what information? guy says stuff to get on tv is really what happened here.45-70Ag said:
Some deep water explorer was just on the news explaining why he thinks they're entangled in the wreckage of the titanic. Said a current could have either swept them really close and entangled a propeller or they actually tried to go inside the wreckage and became trapped.
Either way, sounds awful.
Pumpkinhead said:
One of three scenarios happened from worst case to less worse but still really bad:
1) Lost hull integrity and imploded
2) Got snagged up in the wreckage and are sitting down there. Will be extremely difficult to rescue. Clock is ticking on life support.
3) Lost all power/communications but are floating around on the surface somewhere…finding a needle in haystack…they are bolted in from outside so will still eventually run out of air even in this scenario, just like scenario #2.
Let's hope it is scenario #3 and surface search spots them. Best case to hope for.
