Adventure to the Titanic goes terribly wrong [Staff Warning in OP]

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BonfireNerd04
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Is James Cameron a billionaire?
maxag42
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Yeah that's gonna be a no from me dawg.
eric76
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BQ_90 said:

That looks like a stapler outta sharper image catalog
I first thought that it was some new kind of kitchen appliance that was lying on its side.
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New deep-sea footage gives stunning look at doomed Titan submersible wreckage

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techno-ag said:

I will say, he claims it's for research not tourism and the thing only holds two people. He's got a good reputation in the field, too.

Put some good cameras and a robot arm on it and call it done.
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Salvage, and rebuild!
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ShinerAggie said:

New deep-sea footage gives stunning look at doomed Titan submersible wreckage



Wow that ratchet strap held up really well.
combat wombat™
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OMG. Is that a white shopping bag? I read originally that they had a bag of snacks for the trip.
BQ_90
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combat wombat said:

OMG. Is that a white shopping bag? I read originally that they had a bag of snacks for the trip.
looks more like garbage bag
NASAg03
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That's the unpressurized tail that houses the avionics and possible some thrusters. Impressive that's it's so in tact after the violent implosion from the hull.

I know the recovered the titanium pressure dome. Will be interesting to see if there are any CFRP cylindrical hull fragments or if that was obliterated.
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If you watch the footage in the article it is the tail section. Not sure if the front portion (passenger compartment) got stuffed into the tail or if it collapsed and broke off and landed somewhere else. But that looks like a cracked egg
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Further breakdown of the wreckage filmed. This actually contains footage of the pressure chamber. Basically the entirety of the pressure chamber is shoved into the rear titanium hemisphere.

God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

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Harbor Freight ratchet strap still holding strong.
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sts7049
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Netflix doc is out. it's a pretty good insight into how this thing was a death trap from the very beginning
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sts7049 said:

Netflix doc is out. it's a pretty good insight into how this thing was a death trap from the very beginning
Discovery doc has been out for over a week. Not sure if different from "Netflix" doc.

They had Josh from "Destination Unknown" a Discovery series explain his experience. He basically trashed OG and Rush.

Discovery had to be funding Ocean Gate and Rush.

Can't help but think they were getting out in front of the USCG final report to CYA.

Final USCG report hasn't been released yet.
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The USCG deep-dive report is out. 335 pages long.

The key failure points to workplace culture and a complete disregard for safety of any sort, and an unwillingness to listen to anyone who disagreed.

The fact this sub survived a mission to the Titanic is amazing. But then to try again after delamination failures, a crack discovery over 4ft long, failures of the viewing window, and storing the vehicle outdoors in Canada over winter???

The families of the departed should get something if there was anything worthwhile left of OceanGate. But they were already in debt and don't really have any assets of value to sell off.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/08/titan-sub-implosion-caused-by-absolutely-bonkers-toxic-workplace-environment/
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Quote:

The USCG deep-dive report is out. 335 pages long.

The good news is that these investigative resources can now be re-allocated to figuring out why a Mexican Navy tall-ship hit the Brooklyn bridge going 6-kts in reverse.
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The Netflix documentary was well done and agrees with the coast guard report issued today. The owner seemed to have been a malignant narcissist psychopath.

My first thought looking at the sub was no way. Common sense would tell me not to get in it or be part of the design team. The flaws seemed obvious when comparing how it was built compared to other deep diving subs.
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JohnClark929 said:

The Netflix documentary was well done and agrees with the coast guard report issued today. The owner seemed to have been a malignant narcissist psychopath.

My first thought looking at the sub was no way. Common sense would tell me not to get in it or be part of the design team. The flaws seemed obvious when comparing how it was built compared to other deep diving subs.

I saw the same documentary, It would have been a fun sub for no more than 300 feet. Charge a couple thousand and let people pilot around for a bit. Design was never meant for deep dive, especially to the Titanic.
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BonfireNerd04 said:

Is James Cameron a billionaire?


Net worth 800 million.
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Psycho Bunny said:

JohnClark929 said:

The Netflix documentary was well done and agrees with the coast guard report issued today. The owner seemed to have been a malignant narcissist psychopath.

My first thought looking at the sub was no way. Common sense would tell me not to get in it or be part of the design team. The flaws seemed obvious when comparing how it was built compared to other deep diving subs.

I saw the same documentary, It would have been a fun sub for no more than 300 feet. Charge a couple thousand and let people pilot around for a bit. Design was never meant for deep dive, especially to the Titanic.


I watched it and there's no way in hell I would've gotten that thing for even 5 feet. And the son of the man should never have been in there. Well none of them should've been in there.

There were so many red flags on this thing. Namely, if you just use your eyes.
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The Discovery Channel doc is a good watch and really the visual version of the report.

That thing was going to fail and kill people. Only a question of how and when. It tried to in 2022 and they ignored the good luck then.
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annie88 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

JohnClark929 said:

The Netflix documentary was well done and agrees with the coast guard report issued today. The owner seemed to have been a malignant narcissist psychopath.

My first thought looking at the sub was no way. Common sense would tell me not to get in it or be part of the design team. The flaws seemed obvious when comparing how it was built compared to other deep diving subs.

I saw the same documentary, It would have been a fun sub for no more than 300 feet. Charge a couple thousand and let people pilot around for a bit. Design was never meant for deep dive, especially to the Titanic.


I watched it and there's no way in hell I would've gotten that thing for even 5 feet. And the son of the man should never have been in there. Well none of them should've been in there.

There were so many red flags on this thing. Namely, if you just use your eyes.

That does raise the question of how OceanGate got any customers. So here's my speculation:

Selection bias and silent majority. If you invite 100 people to dive to the Titanic, and 90 of them say "no, it looks too dangerous", you still have 10 customers. And the 90 refusers go on with their lives and don't think to warn the public.

Assumed trust. For those of you who work in an office building, do you know the name of the Professional Engineer who approved the design? Did you personally review the blueprints? Test all the safety railings? Double-check all the physics calculations? Probably not. You just assume that the people who are supposed to do this stuff did their jobs and thus the building won't collapse. And so, too, did OceanGate's passengers assume that someone ensured all of Titan's parts were certified for the intended depth and that someone inspected the hull between dives. What kind of idiot wouldn't? Tragically, they failed to have a proper amount of suspicion for the amount of risk involved.

Complacency. The implosion happened on dive number 88. People may have reasoned that if Titan had completed 87 previous dives and not imploded and killed everyone, that's proof that it's safe, even if the craft looks sus at first glance. Problem is, this logic doesn't account for cumulative damage to the carbon fiber hull.

Actually wanting to die. While this probably didn't apply to most of OceanGate's mission specialists, Paul-Henri Nargeolet's friends said things that indicated that he was really depressed after his wife died in 2017. So maybe he figured that it wouldn't be so bad if he died doing what he loved.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Quote:

The USCG deep-dive report is out. 335 pages long.

The good news is that these investigative resources can now be re-allocated to figuring out why a Mexican Navy tall-ship hit the Brooklyn bridge going 6-kts in reverse.

Cause it's the Mexican Navy.

I mean, there's probably a technical explanation, but this is the actual reason.
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I can't imagine climbing into that thing. I nearly had a panic attack on the Finding Nemo submarine ride at Disneyland.
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ReloadAg said:

I can't imagine climbing into that thing. I nearly had a panic attack on the Finding Nemo submarine ride at Disneyland.

You couldn't get me in a submarine for a million bucks.

No exaggeration. I don't know how the submariners do it.

Thank God for those guys, cause it takes a special cat to get in those things and not come out for 3 months.
BonfireNerd04
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If I were rich enough to do it, seeing the Titanic wreck in person would be cool.

But I am not signing any waiver that has the word "experimental" in it.
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BonfireNerd04 said:

If I were rich enough to do it, seeing the Titanic wreck in person would be cool.

But I am not signing any waiver that has the word "experimental" in it.


On the machines that Cameron and others went down on sure. Even then, it would still be a little scary, but this thing was basically a tin can with rubber bands around it.
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Ag87H2O
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annie88 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

JohnClark929 said:

The Netflix documentary was well done and agrees with the coast guard report issued today. The owner seemed to have been a malignant narcissist psychopath.

My first thought looking at the sub was no way. Common sense would tell me not to get in it or be part of the design team. The flaws seemed obvious when comparing how it was built compared to other deep diving subs.

I saw the same documentary, It would have been a fun sub for no more than 300 feet. Charge a couple thousand and let people pilot around for a bit. Design was never meant for deep dive, especially to the Titanic.


I watched it and there's no way in hell I would've gotten that thing for even 5 feet. And the son of the man should never have been in there. Well none of them should've been in there.

There were so many red flags on this thing. Namely, if you just use your eyes.
Yeah. Anything where the door has to be bolted on from the outside and can't be opened from the inside is a big no for me. That thing was a death trap.
 
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