Eric is consistent for sure. I cannot understand his logic, reasoning, and approach but to your point hs is pleasant - something I am not very good particularly when disagreeing.
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fka ftc said:
Eric is consistent for sure. I cannot understand his logic, reasoning, and approach but to your point hs is pleasant - something I am not very good particularly when disagreeing.
You should work on that.
I'm always levelheaded and nice.
Hahahaha
(Even I couldn't say that with a straight face)
How many documents did he hide from the DOJ during their 13 hour search? Did he get caught on video having aides hide the boxes? Did he shuttle the documents between NJ and FL? He show his guests while be recorded?aggiehawg said:AxiosQuote:
Jan. 21
- Richard Sauber, a member of the White House Counsel's Office, said additional classified documents were discovered during a Jan. 20 search at Biden's Wilmington, Delaware, home.
- Bob Bauer, Biden's personal attorney, said in a separate statement that the search by the Department of Justice took almost 13 hours to complete, but neither Biden or first lady Jill Biden were present.
- Six items containing classified document markings were discovered during the search, Bauer's statement said. Some of the documents were from Biden's time in the Senate, as well as his vice presidency. Handwritten notes from Biden's vice presidential years were also taken for further review.
It's what he did after the subpoena, this is all 100% Trumps fault.
eric76 demanded proof that there were classified documents found that were from Biden's days in the Senate and not only when he was VP.
I provided the quote from the timeline published by a left leaning media outlet answering that inquiry, and only that inquiry. If you have a problem with what Axios published, I suggest you take it up with them.
I provided the quote from the timeline published by a left leaning media outlet answering that inquiry, and only that inquiry. If you have a problem with what Axios published, I suggest you take it up with them.
Not everything is about youaggiehawg said:
eric76 demanded proof that there were classified documents found that were from Biden's days in the Senate and not only when he was VP.
I provided the quote from the timeline published by a left leaning media outlet answering that inquiry, and only that inquiry. If you have a problem with what Axios published, I suggest you take it up with them.
Did trump steal them out of a scif room? You don't know because the media doesn't ask this question. No reason to be rude to other posters.
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your point is well taken. But what if he stops caring? Then we're all ****ed.Im Gipper said:Quote:
It's him functionally defecting. With 4 years of knowledge of this country's deepest and most closely held secrets residing between his ears.
You keep posting this fan fiction, but it's not going to happen. Trump is not a traitor.
ETA: and if he's not, what the hell is the Biden administration doing in the first place? I get that they don't like the guy (I don't either). But what in the actual hell are they thinking?
Really? How about you don't attack me for answering a question from another poster, then?DallasAg03 said:Not everything is about youaggiehawg said:
eric76 demanded proof that there were classified documents found that were from Biden's days in the Senate and not only when he was VP.
I provided the quote from the timeline published by a left leaning media outlet answering that inquiry, and only that inquiry. If you have a problem with what Axios published, I suggest you take it up with them.
Because, you are the one making it all about you. LOL. What a loser.
I saw that and appreciate the response. It's puzzling that he would have that.aggiehawg said:
eric76 demanded proof that there were classified documents found that were from Biden's days in the Senate and not only when he was VP.
I provided the quote from the timeline published by a left leaning media outlet answering that inquiry, and only that inquiry. If you have a problem with what Axios published, I suggest you take it up with them.
Really?eric76 said:I saw that and appreciate the response. It's puzzling that he would have that.aggiehawg said:
eric76 demanded proof that there were classified documents found that were from Biden's days in the Senate and not only when he was VP.
I provided the quote from the timeline published by a left leaning media outlet answering that inquiry, and only that inquiry. If you have a problem with what Axios published, I suggest you take it up with them.
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
Can't wait to hear this - please tell us how he might become president before 2024.
fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
You say some dang funny stuff sometimes, but you never use the laugh emoticon
If you're going to claim that the classified document contains "National Defense Information" then perhaps you should be required to prove that claim to the jury...eric76 said:Why would it be necessary for the jury to read the classified documents? Would reading the actual doccuments somehow give them greater insight into the charges?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Will a criminal trial be conducted on the basis of secreted evidence?
There's a LOT (most, really) of classified data that would never be considered NDI for this case...
Ags77 said:fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
You say some dang funny stuff sometimes, but you never use the laugh emoticon
I'm Gipper
There are generally two elements to "National Defense Information." One, that it is closely held (and this closely tracks with whether it is classified). Two, that the information is of the type that if revealed could harm the country.Ag with kids said:If you're going to claim that the classified document contains "National Defense Information" then perhaps you should be required to prove that claim to the jury...eric76 said:Why would it be necessary for the jury to read the classified documents? Would reading the actual doccuments somehow give them greater insight into the charges?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Will a criminal trial be conducted on the basis of secreted evidence?
There's a LOT (most, really) of classified data that would never be considered NDI for this case...
I would expect the jury will be allowed to see the cover sheets, classification markings, and a limited set of substantive excerpts from each document which the government believes would be sufficient to prove the second element.
The jury is going to get an all day seminar on the US intelligence community and history of intelligence leaks and then will be walked through each document, one by one.
Having seen lots of classified information, I wouldn't accept much in the way of what you posted as definitive proof of NDI.TXAggie2011 said:There are generally two elements to "National Defense Information." One, that it is closely held (and this closely tracks with whether it is classified). Two, that the information is of the type that if revealed could harm the country.Ag with kids said:If you're going to claim that the classified document contains "National Defense Information" then perhaps you should be required to prove that claim to the jury...eric76 said:Why would it be necessary for the jury to read the classified documents? Would reading the actual doccuments somehow give them greater insight into the charges?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Will a criminal trial be conducted on the basis of secreted evidence?
There's a LOT (most, really) of classified data that would never be considered NDI for this case...
I would expect the jury will be allowed to see the cover sheets, classification markings, and a limited set of substantive excerpts from each document which the government believes would be sufficient to prove the second element.
The jury is going to get an all day seminar on the US intelligence community and history of intelligence leaks and then will be walked through each document, one by one.
Hell, "cover sheets, classification markings" are close to meaningless in that context.
Although, I do understand that the IC WILL use the appeal to authority argument:
The data is Class...IFIED!!!
Again, one of the two legal elements of "NDI" is that it is closely held and that is interpreted to closely track "classified." That's why I said they will see that.Quote:
Having seen lots of classified information, I wouldn't accept much in the way of what you posted as definitive proof of NDI.
Hell, "cover sheets, classification markings" are close to meaningless in that context.
To add to that, while you may say classified /=/ national defense information, a criteria of classification is that its release would tend to damage national security, and therefore courts have used "classified" as probative of the second element, as well. To be clear, not determinative, but certainly probative.
And before we go there, yes, there's almost universal agreement that too much information is classified but proper classification is not usually something a defendant can litigate. They can and I know in this case will litigate whether the information was factually classified. They probably will not be allowed to litigate whether that classification was proper in the first place as a stand-alone question. (They will indirectly litigate that by arguing whether or not the release of this information would tend to harm the national defense.)
And before we go there, yes, there's almost universal agreement that too much information is classified but proper classification is not usually something a defendant can litigate. They can and I know in this case will litigate whether the information was factually classified. They probably will not be allowed to litigate whether that classification was proper in the first place as a stand-alone question. (They will indirectly litigate that by arguing whether or not the release of this information would tend to harm the national defense.)
Was the secreted evidence found in the bathroom?
I mean, you poke fun but I in almost all certainty live a happier, gippier life than you.Im Gipper said:Ags77 said:fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
You say some dang funny stuff sometimes, but you never use the laugh emoticon
Trump will like return to 1600 Pennsylvania prior to January 2025 which is allowable as he will be eligible still for reelection in 2024 since Biden is past the 2 years and Trump finishing out the Biden term has a better than 25% chance of happening at this point.
We are headed into completely uncharted waters. My bong induced premonitions are just as solid as anyone who posts on here and better than most on the news were yokels on here get their information from.
Ummm...that's not part of the actual process...fka ftc said:I mean, you poke fun but I in almost all certainty live a happier, gippier life than you.Im Gipper said:Ags77 said:fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
You say some dang funny stuff sometimes, but you never use the laugh emoticon
Trump will like return to 1600 Pennsylvania prior to January 2025 which is allowable as he will be eligible still for reelection in 2024 since Biden is past the 2 years and Trump finishing out the Biden term has a better than 25% chance of happening at this point.
We are headed into completely uncharted waters. My bong induced premonitions are just as solid as anyone who posts on here and better than most on the news were yokels on here get their information from.
Ag with kids said:Ummm...that's not part of the actual process...fka ftc said:I mean, you poke fun but I in almost all certainty live a happier, gippier life than you.Im Gipper said:Ags77 said:fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
You say some dang funny stuff sometimes, but you never use the laugh emoticon
Trump will like return to 1600 Pennsylvania prior to January 2025 which is allowable as he will be eligible still for reelection in 2024 since Biden is past the 2 years and Trump finishing out the Biden term has a better than 25% chance of happening at this point.
We are headed into completely uncharted waters. My bong induced premonitions are just as solid as anyone who posts on here and better than most on the news were yokels on here get their information from.
Shhh. Don't tell him
What process?
Trump could be put in at any time as Speaker of the House and be 3rd in line. Biden with all his taint will take out him and Kamala all together (notice how everyone is silent on Kamalatoe these days).
You are seriously delusional if you think these things are outside the realm of possibilities these days.
When Trump reattains his throne, I will accept your apologies and at least let you put some Tabasco on the crow you will eat.
But you will NOT be invited to the reveal of his portrait on Mt Rushmore.
Trump could be put in at any time as Speaker of the House and be 3rd in line. Biden with all his taint will take out him and Kamala all together (notice how everyone is silent on Kamalatoe these days).
You are seriously delusional if you think these things are outside the realm of possibilities these days.
When Trump reattains his throne, I will accept your apologies and at least let you put some Tabasco on the crow you will eat.
But you will NOT be invited to the reveal of his portrait on Mt Rushmore.
This makes me giggle...fka ftc said:
What process?
Trump could be put in at any time as Speaker of the House and be 3rd in line. Biden with all his taint will take out him and Kamala all together (notice how everyone is silent on Kamalatoe these days).
You are seriously delusional if you think these things are outside the realm of possibilities these days.
When Trump reattains his throne, I will accept your apologies and at least let you put some Tabasco on the crow you will eat.
But you will NOT be invited to the reveal of his portrait on Mt Rushmore.
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Trump will like return to 1600 Pennsylvania prior to January 2025 which is allowable
Allowable? Yes.
Likely? Only in the drug riddled mind.
Put down the pot dude.
I'm Gipper
I want his dealer's number...Im Gipper said:Quote:
Trump will like return to 1600 Pennsylvania prior to January 2025 which is allowable
Allowable? Yes.
Likely? Only in the drug riddled mind.
Put down the pot dude.
Im Gipper said:
Trial is set for August.
(Trial is not going to be in August)
ALERT: Special Counsel Jack Smith files motion with Judge Aileen Cannon in Trump criminal case
— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) June 24, 2023
“The government files this motion to continue the trial date to December 11, 2023”
(More)
Special counsel court filing (more): “In the government’s view, proceeding to trial on August 14, 2023, would deny counsel for the defendant or the attorney for the Government the reasonable time necessary for effective preparation”
— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) June 24, 2023
I'm Gipper
And I love how he's only asking for deferment because he's worried about the defense...Im Gipper said:Im Gipper said:
Trial is set for August.
(Trial is not going to be in August)ALERT: Special Counsel Jack Smith files motion with Judge Aileen Cannon in Trump criminal case
— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) June 24, 2023
“The government files this motion to continue the trial date to December 11, 2023”
(More)Special counsel court filing (more): “In the government’s view, proceeding to trial on August 14, 2023, would deny counsel for the defendant or the attorney for the Government the reasonable time necessary for effective preparation”
— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) June 24, 2023
Trump could have sped things up by 3 months without the silly search warrant quash lawsuit. He clearly would like to delay until 2024 on the 15% chance he becomes president.
The face of Democrats. Amazing how accurate that show was and funny how fast it collapsed when he got me too'd and Hillary, I mean Clair took over girl bossing. DC is pure scum.TXAggie2011 said:
Trump finishing out Biden's term?fka ftc said:I mean, you poke fun but I in almost all certainty live a happier, gippier life than you.Im Gipper said:Ags77 said:fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
You say some dang funny stuff sometimes, but you never use the laugh emoticon
Trump will like return to 1600 Pennsylvania prior to January 2025 which is allowable as he will be eligible still for reelection in 2024 since Biden is past the 2 years and Trump finishing out the Biden term has a better than 25% chance of happening at this point.
We are headed into completely uncharted waters. My bong induced premonitions are just as solid as anyone who posts on here and better than most on the news were yokels on here get their information from.
Is this magic or something?
For fka...eric76 said:Trump finishing out Biden's term?fka ftc said:I mean, you poke fun but I in almost all certainty live a happier, gippier life than you.Im Gipper said:Ags77 said:fka ftc said:
With the Hunter revelations, this case is about to get dropped. If not, then the Dems will reap what they have sowed with their destruction of our Country.
Trump will be POTUS in 2024 if not before.
You say some dang funny stuff sometimes, but you never use the laugh emoticon
Trump will like return to 1600 Pennsylvania prior to January 2025 which is allowable as he will be eligible still for reelection in 2024 since Biden is past the 2 years and Trump finishing out the Biden term has a better than 25% chance of happening at this point.
We are headed into completely uncharted waters. My bong induced premonitions are just as solid as anyone who posts on here and better than most on the news were yokels on here get their information from.
Is this magic or something?
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