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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

Apparently it was enough to keep him from being elected. Not because of conservatives, but because it drove independents and liberals out in droves to vote against him.

Another point for his charisma not being all it's cracked up to be.

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Trump: WOW!! My inauguration was the largest ever!!
TDS: REEEEE!! TRUMP IS A LIAR!! Look at this photo taken several hours before it even started. Also, can't measure those that streamed it live, so LIAR!!!!

Trump: LOL, maybe Russia can find Hillary's emails
TDS: REEEEE!! Trump soliciting Russian inteference in our elections!! TREASON

DeSantis: Our ****ed up technical glitches are relly the result of this massive audience. WE BROKE THE INTERNET!!!

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What does it feel like for you to side with Manhattan? I'm sure you'll give some truly intelligent response with the laugh/cry emoji.

I feel sorry for you and BryanisBest

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So Desantis is basically the coworker who fails at setting up a Teams call.

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DeSantis doesn't work at Twitter. Probably some embedded left wingers still there trashed it.

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His team still signed off on it, and it came across like there was no real preparation. Biden got in with the entire media apparatus and big tech backing him, plus teams of dems hawking for every vote they could get, and they'll do it again. If this is the best DeSantis and his team could come up with, I don't see how he wins against the establishment, who're going to nuke his character and everything he says in the same way they did to Trump. Low energy's going to kill his campaign.

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Apparently it was enough to keep him from being elected. Not because of conservatives, but because it drove independents and liberals out in droves to vote against him.

Another point for his charisma not being all it's cracked up to be.

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He also got MORE votes than his 2016 campaign.

Mass mail-in-ballots, early elections, privatized voting machines, big tech censorship…come on. Be honest. A lot more went into a child sniffer who didn't even campaign winning against Trump, than Trump coming across like a loud New Yorker.

Which shows even more that charisma isn't the end all be all. Especially if instead of being charismatic, you are just being an obnoxious ahole who can't shut his mouth to let his opponents make their own mistakes. Which trump has been for at least the past 3 years.

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Well this certainly raised my eyebrows.

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Perfect power play!

He must've read my earlier post.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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I didn't say anything about mean tweets. Trump lost. We have Biden because Trump lost. He will lose again if nominated.

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Trump: WOW!! My inauguration was the largest ever!!
TDS: REEEEE!! TRUMP IS A LIAR!! Look at this photo taken several hours before it even started. Also, can't measure those that streamed it live, so LIAR!!!!

Trump: LOL, maybe Russia can find Hillary's emails
TDS: REEEEE!! Trump soliciting Russian inteference in our elections!! TREASON

DeSantis: Our ****ed up technical glitches are relly the result of this massive audience. WE BROKE THE INTERNET!!!

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What does it feel like for you to side with Manhattan? I'm sure you'll give some truly intelligent response with the laugh/cry emoji.

I feel sorry for you and BryanisBest

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LOL, I don't give a **** what he thinks. Curious as to why you would care. Whatever....Here is what I vote for.

1. Lower Taxes
2. Stong foreign policy
3. Drill baby drill
4. Fixing the alphabet agencies so they are not weaponized against the american people
5. Repealing Obamacare
6. SECURING THE BORDER

Trump has proven he will fight for all these things. And, when pressured to compromise, he doesn't back down, no matter if the threat goes all the way to impeachment and/or criminal charges.

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Well this certainly raised my eyebrows.

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Perfect power play!

He must've read my earlier post.

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He would "consider" doing it? Already being wishy-washy.

It's sad that's what you're reduced to arguing over.

From the other thread.

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If I were DeSantis, I think I'd announce that i would "explore options to make pardoning the unjustly vilified Jan 6 actors a day one priority...."

Make CMT attack from the left on that.

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Some Trump supporters are quickly getting to the "DeSantis could cure cancer, and Trump supporters would complain he is putting doctors out of business" level of deranged.

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Now, if only DeSantis showed more charisma than room temperature milk

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Some of us may actually prefer character and intellectual capacity over buffoonish bluster.

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Why not both? Why choose dry, uninspired delivery, when you can have good policies and an invigorating performance? DeSantis just needs coaching.

Also, if conservatives don't drop the TDS, you'll get Biden for a second term, where his handler's policies can really be ramped up. Not a fan of Trump going after DeSantis, when this is really a fight against the corrupt establishment. But that's Trump. The rest of the conservative movement has no excuse. Get better and keep the metaphorical crosshairs on the deep state, or loose to a brain dead commie again.

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Why ask several million people to change their expectations when all that has to happen is one guy stop being an obnoxious a-hole?

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Is "obnoxious a-hole" really your biggest concern?

I like DeSantis. I think his policies are great. I like Trump. I think his policies are great. When a dementia ridden child sniffer has more stage presence than DeSantis, that's a problem, and DeSantis and his team need to fix it. Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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I can look past Trump's boorish behavior. Some people can't. Trump needs some of them in order to win. You can keep claiming it isn't Trump's problem, but it is if he wants to win. I don't know how to put that in any simpler terms.

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From the other thread.

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If I were DeSantis, I think I'd announce that i would "explore options to make pardoning the unjustly vilified Jan 6 actors a day one priority...."

Make CMT attack from the left on that.

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To be clear what raised my eyebrows was his inclusion of Trump as maybe needing a pardon over January 6th.

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Which shows even more that charisma isn't the end all be all. Especially if instead of being charismatic, you are just being an obnoxious ahole who can't shut his mouth to let his opponents make their own mistakes. Which trump has been for at least the past 3 years.

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If you can't see that low energy is worse, I don't know what to tell you. You actually can do worse than what Trump did in 2020.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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I didn't say anything about mean tweets. Trump lost. We have Biden because Trump lost. He will lose again if nominated.

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You can't be this lazy with your thinking.

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It's sad that's what you're reduced to arguing over.

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Maybe you don't remember. Trump was criticized by many on this board for not taking a firm position on abortioin (6 week vs 12 week vs what limitations he would put on it).

And, in the case of abortion, it's not even something Trump has a say over, as it was his SC nominee that got Roe vs Wade overturned and put in the hands of the states.

Well, he was able to defunding planned parenthood, so he did do that.

You're cheerleading for a geriatric and referring to others thoughts as "lazy"?

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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Operation warp speed was to create a vaccine that was needed for a certain part of the population, not to make big Pharma rich. What made big Pharma rich was the mandate for the hundreds of millions that didn't need it.

That shouldn't be that difficult of a concept to understand.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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Trump made big mistakes. Based on his proposed policies, I'd say he's learned from them. If you're suggesting, though, that operation warp speed is worse than CRT and kink being taught to minors, I'm not sure what else to say.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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Operation warp speed was to create a vaccine that was needed for a certain part of the population, not to make big Pharma rich. What made big Pharma rich was the mandate for the hundreds of millions that didn't need it.

That shouldn't be that difficult of a concept to understand.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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Trump made big mistakes. Based on his proposed policies, I'd say he's learned from them. If you're suggesting, though, that operation warp speed is worse than CRT and kink being taught to minors, I'm not sure what else to say.

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I am saying we can avoid the Operation Warp Speeds and the CRT both by voting for Ron, which is what I will be doing in the Primary.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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Operation warp speed was to create a vaccine that was needed for a certain part of the population, not to make big Pharma rich. What made big Pharma rich was the mandate for the hundreds of millions that didn't need it.

That shouldn't be that difficult of a concept to understand.

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The vaccine was a failure and is making people sick. The best thing to help people was to use the treatment protocols put forth by Frontline Doctors.


Trump was played by the NIH, Fauci, and Big Pharma. Its not difficult to see.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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I didn't say anything about mean tweets. Trump lost. We have Biden because Trump lost. He will lose again if nominated.

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It's not lazy thinking, it's the truth. Lazy thinking is the "no more mean tweets" nonsense. Do I wish more people would have voted for Trump even though he's such a piece of crap? Yes. But they didn't. I could wish all day that people would overlook what an insufferable dbag Trump is or I can live in the real world. He is unelectable. We need a better option, and now we have one that's better in every way.

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You're cheerleading for a geriatric and referring to others thoughts as "lazy"?

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"Trump don't win last elec. He loser," is lazy.

"Trump say mean words. This why he no win," is lazy, ESPECIALLY when you consider the rhetoric coming from the political opposition.

We wouldn't even have NEEDED Operation Warp Speed if Trump in his wisdom had not allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted!

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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Operation warp speed was to create a vaccine that was needed for a certain part of the population, not to make big Pharma rich. What made big Pharma rich was the mandate for the hundreds of millions that didn't need it.

That shouldn't be that difficult of a concept to understand.

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The vaccine was a failure and is making people sick. The best thing to help people was do use the treatment protocols put forth by Frontline Doctors.

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The vaccine got millions over the initial hump. Folks massively overweight, diabetes, old, etc.. took the vaccine and it prevented them from getting it when it was most deadly. None of those got sick.

Protocols put forth by the frontline doctors. You mean the protocols that actually did kill people? The protocols that forced people to NOT take medicine that actually worked incredibly well thrught the entire world?

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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I didn't say anything about mean tweets. Trump lost. We have Biden because Trump lost. He will lose again if nominated.

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You can't be this lazy with your thinking.

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It's not lazy thinking, it's the truth. Lazy thinking is the "no more mean tweets" nonsense. Do I wish more people would have voted for Trump even though he's such a piece of crap? Yes. But they didn't. I could wish all day that people would overlook what an insufferable dbag Trump is or I can live in the real world. He is unelectable. We need a better option, and now we have one that's better in every way.

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DeSantis had no stage presence. When he can match Trump on stage, he'll be better than Trump. Until then, he's going to be cannon fodder.

Also, look at Trump's election numbers. He was totally electable. What's lazy is just looking at the "L," going along with the reason establishment media gave you, and not looking at everything the other side did for their "W."

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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Trump allowed Gain of Function research to be restarted under his watch and I will not vote for anyone that pushed Operation Warp Speed to enrich Big Pharma.

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Trump made big mistakes. Based on his proposed policies, I'd say he's learned from them. If you're suggesting, though, that operation warp speed is worse than CRT and kink being taught to minors, I'm not sure what else to say.

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I'd say based on his actions over the last month or two that he hasn't learned anything at all. His biggest mistakes were shooting off his mouth unnecessarily on Twitter and elsewhere and picking GOP-e types to fill his cabinet and advisory positions. And yet here he is cozying up to GOP-e types to attack DeSantis and sounding deranged online again.

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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I didn't say anything about mean tweets. Trump lost. We have Biden because Trump lost. He will lose again if nominated.

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You can't be this lazy with your thinking.

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It's not lazy thinking, it's the truth. Lazy thinking is the "no more mean tweets" nonsense. Do I wish more people would have voted for Trump even though he's such a piece of crap? Yes. But they didn't. I could wish all day that people would overlook what an insufferable dbag Trump is or I can live in the real world. He is unelectable. We need a better option, and now we have one that's better in every way.

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DeSantis had no stage presence. When he can match Trump on stage, he'll be better than Trump. Until then, he's going to be cannon fodder.

Also, look at Trump's election numbers. He was totally electable. What's lazy is just looking at the "L," going along with the reason establishment media gave you, and not looking at everything the other side did for their "W."

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So basically the strategy is to wish Trump into office. Good thinking. I'm sure it will work better this time now that he's older, with a smaller platform and attacking DeSantis with leftist positions

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Calls people lazy thinkers and immediately reverts to voting for stage presence.

lol

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DeSantis had no stage presence. When he can match Trump on stage, he'll be better than Trump. Until then, he's going to be cannon fodder.

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Calls people lazy thinkers and immediately reverts to voting for stage presence.

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For most uninformed voters that don't keep up with policies, news, or foreign affairs, how a candidate comes across might be pretty important to them. And before you give me "obnoxious a-hole drove voters away," 74+ million votes surpassed his previous 2016 election numbers, and that was after four years of his demeanor in office, and the media telling those same voters that they were living under "literally Hitler."

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Otherwise, bring in the guy who's shown to have no problem rallying average voters against the entities that want to occupy America.

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And losing to Biden

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See earlier quote about conservatives needing to get off TDS.

Is "mean tweets" really worse to you than an administration that endorses child sex changes, open borders, and foreign war?

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I didn't say anything about mean tweets. Trump lost. We have Biden because Trump lost. He will lose again if nominated.

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You can't be this lazy with your thinking.

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It's not lazy thinking, it's the truth. Lazy thinking is the "no more mean tweets" nonsense. Do I wish more people would have voted for Trump even though he's such a piece of crap? Yes. But they didn't. I could wish all day that people would overlook what an insufferable dbag Trump is or I can live in the real world. He is unelectable. We need a better option, and now we have one that's better in every way.

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DeSantis had no stage presence. When he can match Trump on stage, he'll be better than Trump. Until then, he's going to be cannon fodder.

Also, look at Trump's election numbers. He was totally electable. What's lazy is just looking at the "L," going along with the reason establishment media gave you, and not looking at everything the other side did for their "W."

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So basically the strategy is to wish Trump into office. Good thinking. I'm sure it will work better this time now that he's older, with a smaller platform and attacking DeSantis with leftist positions

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Agree about stage presence... look no further than Kennedy vs Nixon in first televised debate... now tell me how a young DeSantis measures up to Biden in that setting compared to an off putting, obnoxious, Yankee blowhard buffoon.