DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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A resident lib dem weighs in with the all to predictable talking point while lacking an ounce of credibility regarding the subject.

The take-away here is: The Libs WANT trump as the Repub Nominee. Its the only chance they have.

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While already rejecting donald's chance of winning if somehow he's winning the nomination (which he won't), the national voters will for sure reject the GOP ticket with both from Florida or any other state. And to presume DeSantos would accept a VP role when he's a successful leader is unrealistic.

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As a lib, YOU have a better chance if being on the Trump ticket than Ron D.

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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DeSantis has been very clear about Ukraine to anyone that actually listened to him. He doesn't think it should be a priority and he doesn't think we should have US troops involved. He wants it resolved. The only controversial thing he said was to agree that Putin was a War Criminal that he probably let himself get trapped a bit by Piers Morgan. The only real daylight between Trump and DeSantis on the issue is DeSantis actually gave an honest answer while Trump just says "I'll end it in ONE DAY!" and walks away with his supporters clapping like seals thinking he can just snap his fingers and fix it. Kind of like the Wall.

More economy talk from DeSantis.

“Bidenominics really harkens back to the late 1970s and the malaise of the Jimmy Carter era,” @RonDeSantis tells @MariaBartiromo.

“Fundamentally it needs to be tossed out … You have to get spending under control. You have to open up American domestic energy production. We have… pic.twitter.com/7MvBcr6AT4

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) July 9, 2023

Here's the full interview:

DeSantis isn't playing that nice with Trump

These are showing up in Iowa mailboxes pic.twitter.com/qDmX50HnEc

— Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) July 10, 2023

Checking in.

I keep tabs on Twitter, not TexAgs.

DeSantis = vote and some effort on my end. Anyone from R not Trump = vote. Trump = 3rd party. Dem = 3rd party. Enough of this *****

- Oregon voter.

Birdsell First NH State Senator to Endorse in #FITN https://t.co/VRgs5j8VqH@nhgop

— NH Journal (@NewHampJournal) July 10, 2023

Trump's event in NV Saturday.

T-minus about half an hour until former President Donald Trump is expected to speak here at Fervent Calvary Chapel. pic.twitter.com/ADLYcii5dE

— Jessica Hill (@jess_hillyeah) July 8, 2023

HAPPENING NOW—@realDonaldTrump arrives to deliver remarks at a DJTFP24 Volunteer Event in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada… pic.twitter.com/m3JA25rya2

— Dan Scavino Jr.🇺🇸🦅 (@DanScavino) July 8, 2023

Friday's event in IA

Trump Iowa Event July 7 2023. Another angle. Approximately 439 people attended#CrowdSize #TrumpEvent pic.twitter.com/dNqeeTA9Ci

— StatesPoll,com (@StatesPoll) July 8, 2023

compared to

Trump crowd from Iowa last night

But Brandon got 81 Million votes…🙄 pic.twitter.com/QhSZCJjnDn

— Adorable Patriot Todd 🇺🇸🍊 (@Adorable_Todd) October 10, 2021

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One of Team Trump's main strategies seems to be telling outright lies faster than people can refute them. Trump also seems to believe that his own supporters are so dumb and enamored with him that they either won't care or won't check.

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It's not that Trump seems to believe his own supporters are so dumb they won't check his endless daily lies.

Trump KNOWS his cultists are too dumb to either care or check his daily lies.

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I think it will be shown that it would have been much better for Trump, DeSantis, and the GOP for Ron to either sit out this election and prepare for 2028 or work with Trump and run as VP for good exposure even if Trump lost. Ron grossly underestimated Trump's star power, persistence and determination. Don & Ron fighting each other only damages each other and helps the dopey Democrats !

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Mid-March people were ready to move on from Trump, then Trump gets indicted and gets a 20 point bump. Trump didn't do anything to really earn that bump. It was Republican outrage at the politically motivated indictment that manifested itself towards Trump. Eventually, that support will soften.

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Until the Dems slow roll out another big development against Trump. About 1 every 3-4 months will keep the Trump base on the hook enough to screw up the Rep primary.

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I am not so sure about that- there will be a LOT of evidence that Trump was going against the Constitution in trying to lie and overturn the election results in Georgia and Arizona

and all the witnesses are REPUBLICANS. it will be hard for even the diehard Trump idiots to claim it is a conspiracy when the main witnesses against Trump are his own voice and Republican office holders.

It will be portrayed as a conspiracy by the swamp, RINOs, CMs, etc., to keep Trump out of office.

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shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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I legitimately can't comprehend how someone can hold this view.

DeSsntis' primary voting block is people who prefer competent conservative governance and actually winning elections.

Trump's primary voting block is people who want to ***** about losing elections who aren't particularly conservative.

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He's a leftist troll pretending to be a trump supporter. Like a lot of trump supporters on this board.

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shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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I legitimately can't comprehend how someone can hold this view.

DeSsntis' primary voting block is people who prefer competent conservative governance and actually winning elections.

Trump's primary voting block is people who want to ***** about losing elections who aren't particularly conservative.

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He's a leftist troll pretending to be a trump supporter. Like a lot of trump supporters on this board.

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The irony of course is a lot of Trump voters think DeSantis is too pro Ukraine because he isn't saying he will end it in a day.

It's like my Liberal buddy that sees Chris Christie or Asa on CNN or something and sends me a note telling me that they aren't so bad for Republicans because they bash Trump and aren't really conservative.

Republicans don't dislike Trump because of his policies generally they dislike him because of his lack of execution of policies and personality. They also think he has been treated very unfairly.

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The irony of course is a lot of Trump voters think DeSantis is too pro Ukraine because he isn't saying he will end it in a day.

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Sadly, a lot of Trump supporters are pro-Russian/Putin simply because they have to take the opposite position of Biden, or they believe all of the propaganda about biolabs, Ukraine organ harvesting/child sex trafficking, Putin is a warrior for Christendom, etc.

HAPPENING NOW at Los Angeles International Airport. #LAX pic.twitter.com/2uAhgVVBS0

— Dan Scavino Jr.🇺🇸🦅 (@DanScavino) July 9, 2023

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HAPPENING NOW at Los Angeles International Airport. #LAX pic.twitter.com/2uAhgVVBS0

— Dan Scavino Jr.🇺🇸🦅 (@DanScavino) July 9, 2023

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Yes, Trump is a celebrity and people like him. I mean if I saw him I would get a selfie with him too and I'd love to shake his hand. Still voting DeSantis without hesitation.

If you just like the feels and star power though Trump is definitely your guy. I don't care about any of that crap though, I want to hire the best employee to do a job.

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shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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DeSantis has been very clear about Ukraine to anyone that actually listened to him. He doesn't think it should be a priority and he doesn't think we should have US troops involved. He wants it resolved. The only controversial thing he said was to agree that Putin was a War Criminal that he probably let himself get trapped a bit by Piers Morgan. The only real daylight between Trump and DeSantis on the issue is DeSantis actually gave an honest answer while Trump just says "I'll end it in ONE DAY!" and walks away with his supporters clapping like seals thinking he can just snap his fingers and fix it. Kind of like the Wall.

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The fact that there is no daylight between Trump and DeSantis on Ukraine is the problem. If you support Ukraine you cannot vote for either of these men.

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aggie93 said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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DeSantis has been very clear about Ukraine to anyone that actually listened to him. He doesn't think it should be a priority and he doesn't think we should have US troops involved. He wants it resolved. The only controversial thing he said was to agree that Putin was a War Criminal that he probably let himself get trapped a bit by Piers Morgan. The only real daylight between Trump and DeSantis on the issue is DeSantis actually gave an honest answer while Trump just says "I'll end it in ONE DAY!" and walks away with his supporters clapping like seals thinking he can just snap his fingers and fix it. Kind of like the Wall.

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The fact that there is no daylight between Trump and DeSantis on Ukraine is the problem. If you support Ukraine you cannot vote for either of these men.

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If you want war without end, vote Democrat, which we already know you are going to do.

Quit trolling this thread.

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shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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DeSantis has been very clear about Ukraine to anyone that actually listened to him. He doesn't think it should be a priority and he doesn't think we should have US troops involved. He wants it resolved. The only controversial thing he said was to agree that Putin was a War Criminal that he probably let himself get trapped a bit by Piers Morgan. The only real daylight between Trump and DeSantis on the issue is DeSantis actually gave an honest answer while Trump just says "I'll end it in ONE DAY!" and walks away with his supporters clapping like seals thinking he can just snap his fingers and fix it. Kind of like the Wall.

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The fact that there is no daylight between Trump and DeSantis on Ukraine is the problem. If you support Ukraine you cannot vote for either of these men.

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Yeah, so the "We need to support Ukraine!" part of the GOP is about 10% and none of them are Trump or DeSantis voters.

DeSantis out showing himself to be a WEF/Globalist Puppet AGAIN!

World Economic Forum elite admits a Central Bank Digital Currency will allow governments to “decide” to ban purchases of things “it deems less desirable, like say AMMUNITION…”

Guess who predicted this in March -- and took action to protect Floridians' freedom? Ron DeSantis. pic.twitter.com/TWFAQ9XxbJ

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) July 10, 2023

Team Trump has been on an absolute tear the last 24 hours spreading more lies, this time it's DeSantis actually believes the Russia hoax and never defended Trump from it all. The source? An edited video that clips out DeSantis stating that the Russian "influence" had zero impact on the 2016 election.

So many people burning their reputations over this stuff- Poso, Beattie, Julie Kelly, etc. I shouldn't be shocked at this point, but man the Trump campaign is utterly pathetic.

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DeSantis out showing himself to be a WEF/Globalist Puppet AGAIN!

World Economic Forum elite admits a Central Bank Digital Currency will allow governments to “decide” to ban purchases of things “it deems less desirable, like say AMMUNITION…”

Guess who predicted this in March -- and took action to protect Floridians' freedom? Ron DeSantis. pic.twitter.com/TWFAQ9XxbJ

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) July 10, 2023

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These are the real issues that trump has no handle on. Issues like this are why desantis is far and away the best candidate.

Trump would own him on the truth social media though... so there's that.

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Team Trump has been on an absolute tear the last 24 hours spreading more lies, this time it's DeSantis actually believes the Russia hoax and never defended Trump from it all. The source? An edited video that clips out DeSantis stating that the Russian "influence" had zero impact on the 2016 election.

So many people burning their reputations over this stuff- Poso, Beattie, Julie Kelly, etc. I shouldn't be shocked at this point, but man the Trump campaign is utterly pathetic.

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Cult45 lies easier than it breathes.

The problem with Trump is that it's not about the R's winning back the government. It's about Trump taking down everyone in his way, regardless. He would willingly destroy anyone for his own self-loathing desires.

Brilliant campaign strategy!!!

Trump now openly attacking Iowa’s popular Governor Kim Reynolds. Reynolds won re-election by 20 points in 2022. Trump has now has open feuds with the 3 most successful Republican electoral winners of 2022 (Reynolds, Kemp, DeSantis). All states he needs in a general. pic.twitter.com/pMCuL8X8Qy

— AG (@AGHamilton29) July 10, 2023

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aggie93 said:

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DeSantis out showing himself to be a WEF/Globalist Puppet AGAIN!

World Economic Forum elite admits a Central Bank Digital Currency will allow governments to “decide” to ban purchases of things “it deems less desirable, like say AMMUNITION…”

Guess who predicted this in March -- and took action to protect Floridians' freedom? Ron DeSantis. pic.twitter.com/TWFAQ9XxbJ

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) July 10, 2023

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These are the real issues that trump has no handle on. Issues like this are why desantis is far and away the best candidate.

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This, I simply do not trust Trump or any of the unqualified clowns that would be working for him to properly identify and address these very serious issues.

Another excellent interview by Governor DeSantis

Cultists are too dumb to understand- but the ONLY thing that Trump is relying on is the myth of "inevitability" through polling and stirring up the conspiracy theories regarding his upcoming indictments.

any political party that revels in ignorance, lies, and in breaking the law (especially national security and Constitutional law) deserves to be beaten badly.

Meatball Ron is cooked

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shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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DeSantis has been very clear about Ukraine to anyone that actually listened to him. He doesn't think it should be a priority and he doesn't think we should have US troops involved. He wants it resolved. The only controversial thing he said was to agree that Putin was a War Criminal that he probably let himself get trapped a bit by Piers Morgan. The only real daylight between Trump and DeSantis on the issue is DeSantis actually gave an honest answer while Trump just says "I'll end it in ONE DAY!" and walks away with his supporters clapping like seals thinking he can just snap his fingers and fix it. Kind of like the Wall.

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The fact that there is no daylight between Trump and DeSantis on Ukraine is the problem. If you support Ukraine you cannot vote for either of these men.

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Yeah, so the "We need to support Ukraine!" part of the GOP is about 10% and none of them are Trump or DeSantis voters.

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Wrong. And neither can win the presidency. Neither can win independents.

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aggie93 said:

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aggie93 said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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DeSantis made the mistake of focusing on the Trump voters as his primary voting bloc. He can't out-Trump Trump. Now the moderates want nothing to do with him.

Why in the world did he need to downplay Ukraine as one of his very first public statements? Other than to alienate Republicans who don't like Trump. His campaign is total amateur hour

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DeSantis has been very clear about Ukraine to anyone that actually listened to him. He doesn't think it should be a priority and he doesn't think we should have US troops involved. He wants it resolved. The only controversial thing he said was to agree that Putin was a War Criminal that he probably let himself get trapped a bit by Piers Morgan. The only real daylight between Trump and DeSantis on the issue is DeSantis actually gave an honest answer while Trump just says "I'll end it in ONE DAY!" and walks away with his supporters clapping like seals thinking he can just snap his fingers and fix it. Kind of like the Wall.

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The fact that there is no daylight between Trump and DeSantis on Ukraine is the problem. If you support Ukraine you cannot vote for either of these men.

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Yeah, so the "We need to support Ukraine!" part of the GOP is about 10% and none of them are Trump or DeSantis voters.

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Wrong. And neither can win the presidency. Neither can win independents.

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Quit trolling this thread. You're a leftist who is never voting for any Republican.