LMCane said:
Rapier108 said:
I'll give Trump this.
He is the only person on Earth who could convince people who claim to be conservative to back Disney, Bud Light, abortion, and the groomers.
the more time that goes on I don't believe any Trump supporters are actual conservatives.
they are populists and nationalists and those who simply want to burn down their current lives.
Not quite. There are a lot of conservatives who aren't paying close attention and just are going off of some of the things Trump did and feel loyalty to him. For instance he did great on his SC appointments. The economy did well for his first 3 years and we became energy independent and taxes were lowered. Foreign policy was excellent as were trade deals.
If you are someone that is still looking at Trump vs Bush/Romney/McCain he is looks very conservative. Thus Trump is using that to try to paint DeSantis as an acolyte of that version of the GOP and burning his trust and loyalty in the process. The problem with that of course is that DeSantis is less like those guys that Trump is himself, I mean he founded the Freedom Caucus which was literally formed as a buffer against that part of the GOP. Most people just haven't really researched DeSantis. They think of him as the Governor of Florida who did well during Covid but they don't know much more. That's why Trump's use of stuff like "Proven Warrior" is designed to manipulate those people. Everything Trump is doing is focused around trying to make sure that people don't actually listen or look at what DeSantis has done and compare it to Trump, that is unless he gets to tell his version where he finds some bizarre link of someone who at one time had some affiliation with any GOPe figure that also has some level of link to DeSantis and go "See! See! He's a RINO ****!" while completely ignoring that by that standard Trump is 1000x more Establishment, I mean his campaign manager worked for George P Bush and his Admin was filled with Establishment folks that he now disavows (unless they say nice things about him of course like Lindsay Graham).
So I would be patient with Trump voters. Eventually they will hear things Trump is saying and go WTF? or they will actually listen to DeSantis and realize how truly impressive he is. Of course you will have the folks who just love the smack talk and celebrity and they will always love Trump because they look at politics like a TV show. DeSantis is playing the long game and it's the smart play. He is going to continue to peel away the first group of Trump voters that don't care about Trump they just liked his policies and that's the larger group. The personality cult folks are just the loudest and they will only come around after Trump loses the primary and they realize that without DeSantis winning and having a chance to pardon him Trump is completely screwed because if you think the DOJ is corrupt now wait until you give the Dems another 4 years.
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