What I witnessed in San Francisco was shocking and saddening, yet unsurprising.

The failures of states like California are the direct result of a failed progressive, and woke, agenda.

I’m running for president because decline is a choice, success is attainable, and freedom is… pic.twitter.com/jUgpar0Fpi

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) June 22, 2023

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But guess what? Desantis understands that this requires much more than just building a big metal fence.

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So does Trump. He halted illegal immigration when he made those seeking "asylum" wait in Mexico before their hearings.

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That was great. Of course that's all gone now because he didn't make any permanent changes and they were wiped away with Biden's pen. Had he finished the wall though that would have been more permanent.

FWIW the problem wasn't that Trump didn't want to do it the problem was he was always 2 steps behind the people trying to stop him. He didn't take the time to understand his powers until he was already stuck in the mud. You have to have a plan and competent people around you to be effective and he had neither.

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LOL, so DeSantis is going to have congress pass a law that makes all those requesting asylum stay in their country of origin? LMAO. Dude won't even do it with an EO. Too many people on the right want these low priced workers.

Now, I'm sure he will do some symbolic gesture, like he's done in Florida. But there are too many millionaires that need fleecing for him to turn them all against him.

Oops. I guess DeSantis now hates firefighers. Well, maybe more appropriate that he's more interested in his political gain than firefighters.

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"Not long before the new appointees took their places, however, the firefighters worked out an agreement on a new contract with the old board. The union members voted to approve it, but two months later, it still hasn't been approved or even discussed publicly by the new board," according to the news organization.

And the new board isn't honoring that deal, which would have raised minimum salaries for firefighters by $10,000 while also adding as many as 36 new firefighters and EMTs.

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No big deal, right. Just approve the deal that was agreed to earlier. But, there will be political pushback. LOL, he's OK with the deal, except the public found out about it.

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The issue isn't that DeSantis's board backed out of the deal; it's that the details of the cozy arrangement became public. That in turn has pressured the new district administrator, Glen Gilzean, to back out of the deal, which some see as a reward for the union supporting DeSantis.

"This contract got into the hands of city and county leaders across the state of Florida," Shirey wrote. "Glen had been receiving calls left and right yelling at him that he couldn't sign this agreement, and how it was going to screw all of the taxpayers in those areas bc they would have to raise taxes just to be able to recruit and stay even somewhat competitive with the new market."

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But the union backed DeSantis.

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The firefighters union has supported DeSantis, and members stood next to the governor during his news conference announcing the takeover of RCID. Now, the new DeSantis-controlled board has not signed the deal and wants to go back to the negotiating table

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"We just shot ourselves in the foot to the tune of millions of dollars that this agreement would have put into the pockets of our members," Union President Jon Shirey said in a memo to members.

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aggie93 said:

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But guess what? Desantis understands that this requires much more than just building a big metal fence.

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So does Trump. He halted illegal immigration when he made those seeking "asylum" wait in Mexico before their hearings.

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That was great. Of course that's all gone now because he didn't make any permanent changes and they were wiped away with Biden's pen. Had he finished the wall though that would have been more permanent.

FWIW the problem wasn't that Trump didn't want to do it the problem was he was always 2 steps behind the people trying to stop him. He didn't take the time to understand his powers until he was already stuck in the mud. You have to have a plan and competent people around you to be effective and he had neither.

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LOL, so DeSantis is going to have congress pass a law that makes all those requesting asylum stay in their country of origin? LMAO. Dude won't even do it with an EO. Too many people on the right want these low priced workers.

Now, I'm sure he will do some symbolic gesture, like he's done in Florida. But there are too many millionaires that need fleecing for him to turn them all against him.

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DeSantis has the Border as his #1 Priority to fix and plans to declare and emergency Day 1. He's had his legal and political team working on exactly how he can maximize his powers to fix the problem for some time now similar to what they are doing to fire and replace the heads of most of the agencies and bureaucracy in DC. He passed the harshest penalties for hiring illegals in the country in FL and has made it the hardest state for any illegal to live with the Legislation he passed. He has a real record and has actually done what he said he would do.

All you have is speculation from reading too much Truth Social that because Trump failed that there is no way that DeSantis can succeed.

Team Trump is just like the Libs, that hold their opponents to a different standard than they hold their gods, and accuse their opponent of what they are doing:

Wait till you hear who ELSE went to the World Economic Forum… and unlike Kemp, this guy even praised Klaus Schwab! pic.twitter.com/mSz8bMzotM https://t.co/bnbfJneNlQ

— Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸 (@ChristinaPushaw) June 22, 2023

This phenomenon of attacking fellow conservatives that Trump has ushered in is sickening.

You're posting as emotionally as a Democrat about your political views now... watching your transformation by whatever spell Trump has you under has been nothing short of incredible though.

Your shtick is getting old. At this point we all know your account has been taken over by your liberal granddaughter and is just trolling f16.

Man, you love you some extreme left-leaning reading material, don't you? I like reading The Street articles on the Disney debacle purely to get a laugh. These articles are biased against Desantis from the opening sentence and even a blind man could see that. My guess is you can too which is why you salivate over them.

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But guess what? Desantis understands that this requires much more than just building a big metal fence.

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So does Trump. He halted illegal immigration when he made those seeking "asylum" wait in Mexico before their hearings.

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That was great. Of course that's all gone now because he didn't make any permanent changes and they were wiped away with Biden's pen. Had he finished the wall though that would have been more permanent.

FWIW the problem wasn't that Trump didn't want to do it the problem was he was always 2 steps behind the people trying to stop him. He didn't take the time to understand his powers until he was already stuck in the mud. You have to have a plan and competent people around you to be effective and he had neither.

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LOL, so DeSantis is going to have congress pass a law that makes all those requesting asylum stay in their country of origin? LMAO. Dude won't even do it with an EO. Too many people on the right want these low priced workers.

Now, I'm sure he will do some symbolic gesture, like he's done in Florida. But there are too many millionaires that need fleecing for him to turn them all against him.

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DeSantis has the Border as his #1 Priority to fix and plans to declare and emergency Day 1. He's had his legal and political team working on exactly how he can maximize his powers to fix the problem for some time now similar to what they are doing to fire and replace the heads of most of the agencies and bureaucracy in DC. He passed the harshest penalties for hiring illegals in the country in FL and has made it the hardest state for any illegal to live with the Legislation he passed. He has a real record and has actually done what he said he would do.

All you have is speculation from reading too much Truth Social that because Trump failed that there is no way that DeSantis can succeed.

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I don't think I've quoted truth social once. I don't go there. I see the very selected quotes from there on this thread, but 99% of what goes on over there I don't see.

Even though this entire thread is a typical Twitter REEEEEE fest. Without counting, i bet over half of the posts here are directly from Twitter, But I almost always post actual articles from the source and do not use social media for anything.

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Oops. I guess DeSantis now hates firefighers. Well, maybe more appropriate that he's more interested in his political gain than firefighters.

TheStreet.com

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"Not long before the new appointees took their places, however, the firefighters worked out an agreement on a new contract with the old board. The union members voted to approve it, but two months later, it still hasn't been approved or even discussed publicly by the new board," according to the news organization.

And the new board isn't honoring that deal, which would have raised minimum salaries for firefighters by $10,000 while also adding as many as 36 new firefighters and EMTs.

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No big deal, right. Just approve the deal that was agreed to earlier. But, there will be political pushback. LOL, he's OK with the deal, except the public found out about it.

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The issue isn't that DeSantis's board backed out of the deal; it's that the details of the cozy arrangement became public. That in turn has pressured the new district administrator, Glen Gilzean, to back out of the deal, which some see as a reward for the union supporting DeSantis.

"This contract got into the hands of city and county leaders across the state of Florida," Shirey wrote. "Glen had been receiving calls left and right yelling at him that he couldn't sign this agreement, and how it was going to screw all of the taxpayers in those areas bc they would have to raise taxes just to be able to recruit and stay even somewhat competitive with the new market."

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The firefighters union has supported DeSantis, and members stood next to the governor during his news conference announcing the takeover of RCID. Now, the new DeSantis-controlled board has not signed the deal and wants to go back to the negotiating table

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Oops. When you deal with someone more interested in political gain, well, I guess you learn.

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"We just shot ourselves in the foot to the tune of millions of dollars that this agreement would have put into the pockets of our members," Union President Jon Shirey said in a memo to members.

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Ok, obvious hit piece article but let me get this straight.

Union has a long history of problems with the old Disney Board. At the last minute they agree to terms that are highly beneficial to the Union as they are about to be taken over. New Board takes over and sees the deal and doesn't agree with it because it was clearly a bad negotiation and a "cozy" deal that was going to screw over taxpayers. So DeSantis folks are doing the right thing for the taxpayers and want to negotiate a fair deal. That is bad for the Union who backed DeSantis and almost got a sweetheart deal as a part of the old Board trying to screw over the new Board.

Yet your conclusion from that is that DeSantis is the corrupt one for his appointees (not DeSantis directly) standing up to someone that supported him that was trying to screw over the taxpayers for their own gain. The real irony is this article only shows that DeSantis once again put the taxpayers and doing the right thing ahead of people that either donated to him or gave him support hoping for special favors. It would have been very easy just to give the Union their sweetheart deal and they likely would have gotten little if any blowback but they did the right thing for the People.

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Your shtick is getting old. At this point we all know your account has been taken over by your liberal granddaughter and is just trolling f16.

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I'm convinced that 90% of pro trump post here and on social media is dem trolling. They know it causes a reaction. I don't know a single person in real life that is going to vote for trump.

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Man, you love you some extreme left-leaning reading material, don't you? I like reading The Street articles on the Disney debacle purely to get a laugh. These articles are biased against Desantis from the opening sentence and even a blind man could see that. My guess is you can too which is why you salivate over them.

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Biased?? Only because it tells what actually happened?

1. DeSantis tried to hammer Disney because they put out a TV ad.
2. The firefighters that made a deal previously were caught in his crossfire.
3. Instead of honoring the agreement with the firefighters, this admin decided to nix it
4. Quotes from actual NAMED sources said

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This contract got into the hands of city and county leaders across the state of Florida," Shirey wrote. "Glen had been receiving calls left and right yelling at him that he couldn't sign this agreement, and how it was going to screw all of the taxpayers in those areas bc they would have to raise taxes just to be able to recruit and stay even somewhat competitive with the new market

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We just shot ourselves in the foot to the tune of millions of dollars that this agreement would have put into the pockets of our members," Union President Jon Shirey said in a memo to members

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I know this thread is about selected Twitter REEEEEE's, but even then, I'm a bit surprised that actual quotes from actual sources from an actual news organization would try to screem REEEEEEE LEFTIST ARTICLE!!!

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Your shtick is getting old. At this point we all know your account has been taken over by your liberal granddaughter and is just trolling f16.

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I'm convinced that 90% of pro trump post here and on social media is dem trolling. They know it causes a reaction. I don't know a single person in real life that is going to vote for trump.

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I have in-laws that only believe things that Trump says, so when we visited recently and I said that Trump has gone off the rails, and I'm all in on DeSantis, they said "He's got his money from China"... and that was it. I think that they will eventually understand what is going on, though. Some people take longer to see what is right in front of their faces when they are gung-ho about something.

I'll give Trump this.

He is the only person on Earth who could convince people who claim to be conservative to back Disney, Bud Light, abortion, and the groomers.

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Yet your conclusion from that is that DeSantis is the corrupt one for his appointees (not DeSantis directly) standing up to someone that supported him that was trying to screw over the taxpayers for their own gain. The real irony is this article only shows that DeSantis once again put the taxpayers and doing the right thing ahead of people that either donated to him or gave him support hoping for special favors. It would have been very easy just to give the Union their sweetheart deal and they likely would have gotten little if any blowback but they did the right thing for the People.

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LOL, they were about to do the "easy thing". Well, until the deal went public. Then, oops, let's go ahead and renege on the deal. It was due to the blowback that this was being renegotiated. That is an actual quote from a named source in the article.

Trump takes a net worth loss to be President.

This grifting stuff is stupid.

Well, he is supporting a guy that's been a NY Democrat for most of his adult.

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I'll give Trump this.

He is the only person on Earth who could convince people who claim to be conservative to back Disney, Bud Light, abortion, and the groomers.

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LOL, I'll give the TDS credit.

They are the only people on earth that agree that weaponizing a government against an entity because they put a TV ad out against you is a good thing.

Science Denier said:

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Science Denier said:

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aggie93 said:

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But guess what? Desantis understands that this requires much more than just building a big metal fence.

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So does Trump. He halted illegal immigration when he made those seeking "asylum" wait in Mexico before their hearings.

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That was great. Of course that's all gone now because he didn't make any permanent changes and they were wiped away with Biden's pen. Had he finished the wall though that would have been more permanent.

FWIW the problem wasn't that Trump didn't want to do it the problem was he was always 2 steps behind the people trying to stop him. He didn't take the time to understand his powers until he was already stuck in the mud. You have to have a plan and competent people around you to be effective and he had neither.

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LOL, so DeSantis is going to have congress pass a law that makes all those requesting asylum stay in their country of origin? LMAO. Dude won't even do it with an EO. Too many people on the right want these low priced workers.

Now, I'm sure he will do some symbolic gesture, like he's done in Florida. But there are too many millionaires that need fleecing for him to turn them all against him.

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DeSantis has the Border as his #1 Priority to fix and plans to declare and emergency Day 1. He's had his legal and political team working on exactly how he can maximize his powers to fix the problem for some time now similar to what they are doing to fire and replace the heads of most of the agencies and bureaucracy in DC. He passed the harshest penalties for hiring illegals in the country in FL and has made it the hardest state for any illegal to live with the Legislation he passed. He has a real record and has actually done what he said he would do.

All you have is speculation from reading too much Truth Social that because Trump failed that there is no way that DeSantis can succeed.

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I don't think I've quoted truth social once. I don't go there. I see the very selected quotes from there on this thread, but 99% of what goes on over there I don't see.

Even though this entire thread is a typical Twitter REEEEEE fest. Without counting, i bet over half of the posts here are directly from Twitter, But I almost always post actual articles from the source and do not use social media for anything.

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Twitter is a news aggregator and it is easier to post from there than to post separate links because of how Texags is formatted. Most of the "Twitter posts" are simply easier ways of being able to post news articles and interviews as well as comments from Trump or other figures.

My point isn't that you are posting directly from Truth it is that your tenor of articles seems to follow as if that is where you get all of your news. You can basically do the same on Twitter if you just follow Trump influencers though or if you go to Free Republic or some other sites. The thing I like about Twitter is it is the only place that truly has all sides and is the least filtered. My feed at any given time has DeSantis folks followed by "Johnny MAGA" followed by Gavin Newsom right after each other. You can't get that anywhere else.

Mainly the issue though is your arguments are easily debunked and often uninformed. Talking about how DeSantis is owned by his donors when he has disproven that over and over and over or saying that he isn't serious about the border or illegal immigration when he has disproven that over and over and over while you have a laugh/cry emoji on every post to be condescending makes you look foolish. I enjoy debate and honest discussion. Sometimes you do engage in that but then you come back with garbage like these last few responses. You also avoid the hard topics like some of Trump's comments in the Fox interview as if they never happened.

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Man, you love you some extreme left-leaning reading material, don't you? I like reading The Street articles on the Disney debacle purely to get a laugh. These articles are biased against Desantis from the opening sentence and even a blind man could see that. My guess is you can too which is why you salivate over them.

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Biased?? Only because it tells what actually happened?

1. DeSantis tried to hammer Disney because they put out a TV ad.
2. The firefighters that made a deal previously were caught in his crossfire.
3. Instead of honoring the agreement with the firefighters, this admin decided to nix it
4. Quotes from actual NAMED sources said

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This contract got into the hands of city and county leaders across the state of Florida," Shirey wrote. "Glen had been receiving calls left and right yelling at him that he couldn't sign this agreement, and how it was going to screw all of the taxpayers in those areas bc they would have to raise taxes just to be able to recruit and stay even somewhat competitive with the new market

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We just shot ourselves in the foot to the tune of millions of dollars that this agreement would have put into the pockets of our members," Union President Jon Shirey said in a memo to members

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I know this thread is about selected Twitter REEEEEE's, but even then, I'm a bit surprised that actual quotes from actual sources from an actual news organization would try to screem REEEEEEE LEFTIST ARTICLE!!!

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So, again, instead of giving a sweetheart deal to people who backed him, they didn't pass it. And this is bad why?

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I'll give Trump this.

He is the only person on Earth who could convince people who claim to be conservative to back Disney, Bud Light, abortion, and the groomers.

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LOL, I'll give the TDS credit.

They are the only people on earth that agree that weaponizing a government against an entity because they put a TV ad out against you is a good thing.

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ScienceDenier just can't help but LIE


That's not what happened with Disney. Why can't you defend Trump's position without having to resort to lies? It's really sad.

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Well, he is supporting a guy that's been a NY Democrat for most of his adult. actually done the following while President
1. Lowered taxes
2. Made the US energy independent
3. Shut down illegal migration
4. Made the US THE strongest country in the world
5. Created millions of jobs and increased labor participation in the US
6. Put America first in everything he did.
etc.

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FIFY

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Yet your conclusion from that is that DeSantis is the corrupt one for his appointees (not DeSantis directly) standing up to someone that supported him that was trying to screw over the taxpayers for their own gain. The real irony is this article only shows that DeSantis once again put the taxpayers and doing the right thing ahead of people that either donated to him or gave him support hoping for special favors. It would have been very easy just to give the Union their sweetheart deal and they likely would have gotten little if any blowback but they did the right thing for the People.

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LOL, they were about to do the "easy thing". Well, until the deal went public. Then, oops, let's go ahead and renege on the deal. It was due to the blowback that this was being renegotiated. That is an actual quote from a named source in the article.

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They reneged on the deal as soon as they found out about it essentially which is almost immediately after they took over the Board. They didn't negotiate the deal. Your article also is trying to say how he screwed over the Union which is the real tell. So which is it? It's bad that the new Board stood up for the taxpayers which is their job or that they screwed over the Union and wouldn't be bought off by them?

The only thing NOT in dispute is that the Board is actually doing their job ethically and responsibly.

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So, again, instead of giving a sweetheart deal to people who backed him, they didn't pass it. And this is bad why?

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1. It was already agreed to by all parties, and then bam. The state renege on the deal.
2. His weaponization of government is the sole reason this deal wasn't already done.
3. The only reason the deal was wasn't approved was due to the political blowback when it became public.
4. These people were steamrolled by an entity using the government as a weapon. If you are going to do that, at least man up and not steamroll innocent 3rd parties that are a casualty of your political aspirations.

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So, again, instead of giving a sweetheart deal to people who backed him, they didn't pass it. And this is bad why?

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1. It was already agreed to by all parties, and then bam. The state renege on the deal.
2. His weaponization of government is the sole reason this deal wasn't already done.
3. The only reason the deal was wasn't approved was due to the political blowback when it became public.
4. These people were steamrolled by an entity using the government as a weapon. If you are going to do that, at least man up and not steamroll innocent 3rd parties that are a casualty of your political aspirations.

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All answered above. Why don't you tell us what you think should have happened? Do you think it was a good deal? A bad deal? You share no insights. You just see something desantis did and find whatever angle you can to make that a bad thing.

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Man, you love you some extreme left-leaning reading material, don't you? I like reading The Street articles on the Disney debacle purely to get a laugh. These articles are biased against Desantis from the opening sentence and even a blind man could see that. My guess is you can too which is why you salivate over them.

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Biased?? Only because it tells what actually happened?

1. DeSantis tried to hammer Disney because they put out a TV ad.
2. The firefighters that made a deal previously were caught in his crossfire.
3. Instead of honoring the agreement with the firefighters, this admin decided to nix it
4. Quotes from actual NAMED sources said

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This contract got into the hands of city and county leaders across the state of Florida," Shirey wrote. "Glen had been receiving calls left and right yelling at him that he couldn't sign this agreement, and how it was going to screw all of the taxpayers in those areas bc they would have to raise taxes just to be able to recruit and stay even somewhat competitive with the new market

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We just shot ourselves in the foot to the tune of millions of dollars that this agreement would have put into the pockets of our members," Union President Jon Shirey said in a memo to members

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I know this thread is about selected Twitter REEEEEE's, but even then, I'm a bit surprised that actual quotes from actual sources from an actual news organization would try to screem REEEEEEE LEFTIST ARTICLE!!!

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Lol, I've been thinking you're a liar, but now I'm thinking you're just not that smart.


Here's wording from the article you claim is unbiased....

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DeSantis's 'Woke' War With Disney Claims New Victim

Unintended consequences of the right-wing governor's actions have hurt one of his key support groups.

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THAT'S THE HEADING AND SUBHEADER! Starting off completely neutral though, right?! LOL

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Essentially, in his attempt to punish Walt Disney because it opposed his so-called Don't Say Gay legislation,

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That whole sentence is a lie and uses the standard misleading leftist propaganda name for the Parental Rights Bill.

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DeSantis has made Disney the proxy for every company he wants to paint as woke -- progressive

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Yeah, that's completely neutral language in a completely neutral sentence.


You definitely are one of the following two...a secret Dem troll, or truly the perfect Trump voter...not smart enough to see a con job being pulled right in front of your eyes.

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Science Denier said:

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I'll give Trump this.

He is the only person on Earth who could convince people who claim to be conservative to back Disney, Bud Light, abortion, and the groomers.

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LOL, I'll give the TDS credit.

They are the only people on earth that agree that weaponizing a government against an entity because they put a TV ad out against you is a good thing.

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ScienceDenier just can't help but LIE


That's not what happened with Disney. Why can't you defend Trump's position without having to resort to lies? It's really sad.

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Uh, that's actual facts.
1. DeSantis for years had zero problem with Reedy Creek
2. Disney puts out a TV ad
3. DeSantis publicly states he's going after Disney
4. He first tries to take over Reedy Creek by appointing new members
5. Disney LOL's at him and had Reedy Creek turn over power back to Disney,
6. So, then decides to just dissolve it all together, despite many other entities in the state having these districts already set up.
NPR

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The governor gave it a new name, the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, and appointed five of his allies to the board, including a prominent parents' rights activist, a Christian nationalist and a lawyer who donated $50,000 to his campaign.

On paper, the new board would supervise municipal services and development for the land around Disney World. In practice, DeSantis said, the board would also serve as a moral arbiter for a company that had lost its way.

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These are all actual, proven facts of the actions that document the weaponization of government against an entity that put out a TV ad against DeSantis' policy.

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Here's wording from the article you claim is unbiased....

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DeSantis's 'Woke' War With Disney Claims New Victim

Unintended consequences of the right-wing governor's actions have hurt one of his key support groups.

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THAT'S THE HEADING AND SUBHEADER! Starting off completely neutral though, right?! LOL

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I never said it was "unbiased". I said it was factual. You see, that is EXACTLY what happened and it's very detailed in the actual facts. It doesn't make anything up and is backed by actual quotes from actual people, not "unnamed sources" that I consistently criticize on here.

Science Denier said:

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TRM said:

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Well, he is supporting a guy that's been a NY Democrat for most of his adult. actually done the following while President
1. Lowered taxes
2. Made the US energy independent
3. Shut down illegal migration
4. Made the US THE strongest country in the world
5. Created millions of jobs and increased labor participation in the US
6. Put America first in everything he did.
etc.

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FIFY

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All that was great, then he turned the country over to Fauci in 2020 and still hasn't learned from any of his mistakes. He literally just had an interview where he STILL wishy washy on whether he should have fired Fauci and was wanting credit for "Saving 100 million people" with his vaccine that "People love".

Trump has lost his fastball. His superpower was that he could speak for those who were being ignored by everyone else and advocate for them. He was in touch with what those people were thinking and feeling. The way he handled Covid and still talks about Covid and the vaccine has shown that's no longer the case. His demeanor has also changed. He isn't funny anymore, he's just angry and whiny. He doesn't have the casual air of confidence while he dissects arguments. It's now just ALL CAPS posts and tired nicknames with the occasional glimpse of what he was before. Mainly he is just playing the victim and upset that people won't put him on a pedestal and are asking him hard questions.

Of course the real issue is that now we have someone better than Trump. He's younger, smarter, and FAR more politically savvy in getting things done. His policies are almost identical only more socially conservative (foreign policy, trade, reforming the Deep State, the economy, the border are really splitting hairs between the two). Trump is also doing weird attacks like how reforming SS in any way is bad and eliminating the IRS is bad when any conservative should support those goals.

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Here's wording from the article you claim is unbiased....

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DeSantis's 'Woke' War With Disney Claims New Victim

Unintended consequences of the right-wing governor's actions have hurt one of his key support groups.

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THAT'S THE HEADING AND SUBHEADER! Starting off completely neutral though, right?! LOL

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I never said it was "unbiased". I said it was factual. You see, that is EXACTLY what happened and it's very detailed in the actual facts. It doesn't make anything up and is backed by actual quotes from actual people, not "unnamed sources" that I consistently criticize on here.

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Right here, from your original reply to me....

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Biased?? Only because it tells what actually happened?

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But go ahead, move those goalposts.

Without deflection, lies, and goalpost moving you have no arguments. You do realize you're a laughingstock on this board now, right?

Science Denier said:

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Well, he is supporting a guy that's been a NY Democrat for most of his adult. actually done the following while President
1. Lowered taxes temprarily
2. Deregulated the US O&G industry (we produce the wrong type of oil and we still need more refining capacity)
3. Kept illegal migration steady (it's been flat since 2007/2008 until Biden)
4. Kept the US THE strongest country in the world
5. Created millions of jobs and increased labor participation in the US then Lockdown Don pissed it away with his COVID lockdowns.
6. Put America first in everything he did. (Followed Fauci's advice, so no he didn't and he enriched China in the process. Not mention his stupid First Step Act that puts law abiding citizens at risk by releasing criminals)
etc.

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FIFY

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FIFY

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Here's wording from the article you claim is unbiased....

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DeSantis's 'Woke' War With Disney Claims New Victim

Unintended consequences of the right-wing governor's actions have hurt one of his key support groups.

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THAT'S THE HEADING AND SUBHEADER! Starting off completely neutral though, right?! LOL

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I never said it was "unbiased". I said it was factual. You see, that is EXACTLY what happened and it's very detailed in the actual facts. It doesn't make anything up and is backed by actual quotes from actual people, not "unnamed sources" that I consistently criticize on here.

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Right here, from your original reply to me....

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Biased?? Only because it tells what actually happened?

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But go ahead, move those goalposts.

Without deflection, lies, and goalpost moving you have no arguments. You do realize you're a laughingstock on this board now, right?

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Biased?? - that means I don't think it's biased? I questioned if actual facts makes it biased. I never said it was not biased.

Again, it's factually accurate. I know the TDS affected hates actual facts, but it is what it is.

Science Denier said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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Science Denier said:

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Here's wording from the article you claim is unbiased....

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DeSantis's 'Woke' War With Disney Claims New Victim

Unintended consequences of the right-wing governor's actions have hurt one of his key support groups.

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THAT'S THE HEADING AND SUBHEADER! Starting off completely neutral though, right?! LOL

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I never said it was "unbiased". I said it was factual. You see, that is EXACTLY what happened and it's very detailed in the actual facts. It doesn't make anything up and is backed by actual quotes from actual people, not "unnamed sources" that I consistently criticize on here.

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Right here, from your original reply to me....

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Biased?? Only because it tells what actually happened?

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But go ahead, move those goalposts.

Without deflection, lies, and goalpost moving you have no arguments. You do realize you're a laughingstock on this board now, right?

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Again, it's factually accurate. I know the TDS affected hates actual facts, but it is what it is.

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Worships a lying clown and then accuses others of hating facts. Amazing stuff.

You know, for a Trump supporter, you read and repost a lot of NPR and Media Matters material...