OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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"We don't know if DeSantis wanted the presidency before midterms. But if expected to win, as he did, he could've made advance moves, maybe hoping the raid would be damaging enough to make President Trump get out of his way. Trump didn't announce until much later, but DeSantis undoubtedly saw Trump as an unbeatable opponent," our source said.

Other information on the report cemented Gen. Smith's hypothesis that DeSantis was conspiring with Merrick Garland to topple Trump. Cyberspace Command reportedly has text messages in which Garland writes, "We're coming," and DeSantis responds, "Thanks for the heads up,"timestamped three hours before the FBI swarm illegally and unprecedently violated the home of a President of the United States.




Yeah, that is a super reliable source you have there... Come on, man. Have higher standards
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Science Denier said:

https://dainikbidyaloy.com/2023/03/03/desantis-had-advance-knowledge-of-mar-a-lago-raid-texted-with-ag-garland/

Swamp creature gonna be swamp creature.
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis had advance knowledge of the FBI's August 8 raid on President Donald J. Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate but chose not to warn him that an army of federal goons was about to descend on Palm Beach like a swarm of locusts, according to a new White Hat study General Eric M. Smith shared with his council on Tuesday.

The report, authored by U.S. Army Cyber Command and Marine Corps Forces Cyberspace Command, asserts that DeSantis entertained AG Merrick Garland at the governor's mansion in Tallahassee on July 25, two weeks ahead of the raid. It states that the joint cyber command task force acquired surveillance footage of Garland and two unidentified men arriving at DeSantis' home at 8:00 p.m. that evening.

DeSantis might have been fishing for dirt to further impugn Trump's unimpeachable character, our source added.


So, DeSantis working with the swamp to dig up dirt on Trump. Not shocked.



And this is why you lose all credibility on this and other posts. A simple google search shows you this is the only source running with this. A more complex search of all possible variations show you yet again this is the only source for this nonsense.

Do better
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Christie will eat everyone's lunch.

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Science Denier said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Is this really what you've been forced to rely on these days as evidence in your weak troll attempts, lol?

Come on, let's see at least four more cry-laugh emojis and at least one magnifying glass emoji as you try to talk your way out of how badly you just showed your ass.


Lol. No. The link came from the thread above. I don't have time to spend 14 hours a day researching every tweet either DeSantis or Trump makes.
Here's a tip then. If you see a story that seems really outrageous and would take a LOT of people being in on it to keep it silent maybe check to see if it is posted anywhere than a site like that. Or you can just have people not take you seriously. Personally I like having Trump people on this thread for intelligent discussion but bomb throwing and having a laugh/cry emoji in every answer you have isn't helping even though on some of your posts you actually make some decent points.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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. . . said:

Christie will eat everyone's lunch.


DeSantis is not Marco Rubio who had a few canned lines and nothing underneath.

FWIW I could easily see Christie and Pence go after Trump more than DeSantis, neither will win and both have a grudge against him. Vivek and Haley will go after DeSantis.

Of course the polls when the debates start may change everything.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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Once again, TrumpCult has to lie to attack DeSantis.

Shocked I tell you. Shocked!!!

I'm Gipper
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This is a real problem for Trump and is a shift for him from prior campaigns. It's going to bite him in the ass if he doesn't shift and soon.


"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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Science Denier said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Science Denier said:

https://dainikbidyaloy.com/2023/03/03/desantis-had-advance-knowledge-of-mar-a-lago-raid-texted-with-ag-garland/

Swamp creature gonna be swamp creature.
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis had advance knowledge of the FBI's August 8 raid on President Donald J. Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate but chose not to warn him that an army of federal goons was about to descend on Palm Beach like a swarm of locusts, according to a new White Hat study General Eric M. Smith shared with his council on Tuesday.

The report, authored by U.S. Army Cyber Command and Marine Corps Forces Cyberspace Command, asserts that DeSantis entertained AG Merrick Garland at the governor's mansion in Tallahassee on July 25, two weeks ahead of the raid. It states that the joint cyber command task force acquired surveillance footage of Garland and two unidentified men arriving at DeSantis' home at 8:00 p.m. that evening.

DeSantis might have been fishing for dirt to further impugn Trump's unimpeachable character, our source added.


So, DeSantis working with the swamp to dig up dirt on Trump. Not shocked.



Is it even legal to warn someone of an upcoming raid if he learns that information due to his role as governor?


Probably not. Probably legal to host one of the most crooked ADs in the history of the US to your house to get dirt on Trump. Just like Hillary.


Hillary?

Clinton? The one Trump was besties with for decades, supported her husband, and said she was a good SecState?


That Hillary?
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That was not Trump's fault!! Stop being mean to the proven warrior!!

I'm Gipper
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aggie93 said:

. . . said:

Christie will eat everyone's lunch.


DeSantis is not Marco Rubio who had a few canned lines and nothing underneath.

FWIW I could easily see Christie and Pence go after Trump more than DeSantis, neither will win and both have a grudge against him. Vivek and Haley will go after DeSantis.

Of course the polls when the debates start may change everything.

Will Pence and Christie even get 40k unique donors?
Phatbob
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. . . said:

Christie will eat everyone's lunch.


So Trump is closer to Chris Christie, eh? I think that seems accurate. But logical consistency is not a fruit of the Maga.
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Christie is who Trump relies on when picking an FBI head.

I'm Gipper
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aggie93 said:

This is a real problem for Trump and is a shift for him from prior campaigns. It's going to bite him in the ass if he doesn't shift and soon.






What has Trump ever done that wasn't all about himself?

This is why no lasting legislation ever got passed. When it came to the boring leg work, Trump would move on to the next shiny object that would keep him in the headlines.

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CREAg87 said:

I'm finally coming around to believing that Trump is only running to raise what he can and try to avoid jail- how else can you explain such an unserious campaign? Regardless of what the polls say now (I have no problem believing Trump has the lead as of now) how can anyone expect Trump to win with so little organization?


because unfortunately there are millions of stupid Americans

who will vote for him "even if he shot someone in downtown Manhattan"?
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. . . said:

Christie will eat everyone's lunch.



my lord Trump's staff this time is even more horrendous than the 2020 campaign

any democrat is going to win AZ/GA/NC and PA during a general election against this idiot!
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Christie is gonna draw blood.

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Trump defends Disney and their woke agenda
Trump defends Bud Light and their woke agenda
Trump defends Saudi Arabia and their golf league

In addition to reactions from pro golfers, one notable golf enthusiast, former U.S. President Donald Trump, also commented on the merger on social media:


"GREAT NEWS FROM LIV GOLF. A BIG, BEAUTIFUL, AND GLAMOROUS DEAL FOR THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF GOLF. CONGRATS TO ALL!!!" he wrote in all caps on Truth Social.

Trump has advocated for golfers leaving the PGA in favor of LIV Golf, saying they would come to regret a refusal to take the Saudi money.

As part of the merger, the parties to the deal are dropping lawsuits against each other effective immediately. In addition, Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund will make a major financial investment in the new-look entity, and will also be a corporate sponsor for events.
LMCane
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GeorgiAg said:

Christie is gonna draw blood.



interesting he talks about the Saudi money to Kushner the same day Trump sends his congratulations on LIV Golf merging with the PGA

definitely Trump is getting paid off by the Saudis.

on the other hand, when Christie states "that's your money!" what the @#$ is he talking about?

that's Saudi money from Riyadh going to the Trumps, it has nothing to do with the taxpayers of the USA.
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I wonder if Trump will be broadcasting in CAPS the results of this new poll:

The survey by WPA Intelligence for the DeSantis-supporting Never Back Down super PAC showed the 44-year-old governor in a virtual tie with the 76-year-old Trump in a head-to-head contest.


Trump had 45% support, while DeSantis had 43% support and 12% were undecided.

An early May head-to-head poll, taken before the Florida governor formally entered the race, showed Trump with 53% support, DeSantis on 39% and 8% undecided.

DeSantis also made up ground on Trump in an Iowa survey that incorporated the full field.

In that poll, Trump had 39% support, DeSantis had 29%, Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) had 7%, and former Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley had 6% support.

Are Trumpists Going to discuss THIS poll?
Phatbob
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I'm sorry, we can only go off of polls from 2 months ago, and according to those, we shouldn't even have a debate.
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GeorgiAg said:

Christie is gonna draw blood.



30% for the orange guy!
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Want to win? Better vote for Trump

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Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., joined "Fox & Friends" Tuesday to discuss why he supports former President Trump in 2024. The former Auburn football coach said he believes Democrats will begin to turn away from President Biden as the country faces "serious trouble."
We know Trump's conservative agenda.
- Defund Planned Parenthood - accomplished
- US Energy Independent - accomplished
- Secure the border - accomplished
- Make America First overseas - accomplished

From Tuberville
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I'm a Trump guy. I believe in President Trump. And I'm an 'experience' person, being a coach, you always go for experience, somebody that's been there, has done that. We know what he's going to do. We know we understand who he is. You got to accept sometimes things that he says because he's not going to hide, he's going to run to the problem. And that's why we need somebody to run to the problem, to fix the problem.
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I remember him walking out on the recruits while they were at dinner when his old ass was still at Tceh. Ringing endorsement from another geriatric.
CREAg87
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LOL at this endorsement.
Keep your rifle by your side
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Old May Banker said:

I remember him walking out on the recruits while they were at dinner when his old ass was still at Tceh. Ringing endorsement from another geriatric.
I was in undergrad at Cincinnati when he was hired from Tceh. Tuberville ran the program into the ground and burned bridges with pretty much every HS program in the Cincinnati area.
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LMCane said:

I wonder if Trump will be broadcasting in CAPS the results of this new poll:

The survey by WPA Intelligence for the DeSantis-supporting Never Back Down super PAC showed the 44-year-old governor in a virtual tie with the 76-year-old Trump in a head-to-head contest.


Trump had 45% support, while DeSantis had 43% support and 12% were undecided.

An early May head-to-head poll, taken before the Florida governor formally entered the race, showed Trump with 53% support, DeSantis on 39% and 8% undecided.

DeSantis also made up ground on Trump in an Iowa survey that incorporated the full field.

In that poll, Trump had 39% support, DeSantis had 29%, Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) had 7%, and former Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley had 6% support.

Are Trumpists Going to discuss THIS poll?

Well, this seems to be quite telling....

WPA Intelligence for the DeSantis-supporting Never Back Down super PAC
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CREAg87 said:

Old May Banker said:

I remember him walking out on the recruits while they were at dinner when his old ass was still at Tceh. Ringing endorsement from another geriatric.
I was in undergrad at Cincinnati when he was hired from Tceh. Tuberville ran the program into the ground and burned bridges with pretty much every HS program in the Cincinnati area.
LOL, Tuberville was coach of the year and went undefeated in 2004.

He beat the incumbent democrat by 20 points in 2020, even though TDS says that Republicans under Trump were a cancer to society.

But, yea. His failure at Cinci is the absolute best metric to judge his time in the Senate.
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Science Denier said:

Want to win? Better vote for Trump

From Fox News
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Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., joined "Fox & Friends" Tuesday to discuss why he supports former President Trump in 2024. The former Auburn football coach said he believes Democrats will begin to turn away from President Biden as the country faces "serious trouble."
We know Trump's conservative agenda.
- Defund Planned Parenthood - accomplished
- US Energy Independent - accomplished
- Secure the border - accomplished
- Make America First overseas - accomplished

From Tuberville
Quote:

I'm a Trump guy. I believe in President Trump. And I'm an 'experience' person, being a coach, you always go for experience, somebody that's been there, has done that. We know what he's going to do. We know we understand who he is. You got to accept sometimes things that he says because he's not going to hide, he's going to run to the problem. And that's why we need somebody to run to the problem, to fix the problem.

That's all fine but all of it is gone now and he's a lot older with more baggage than a Kardashian. I'll take the young guy with even more skins on the wall and who doesn't spend his time coming up with Memes about other candidates and doesn't leave his house more than a couple times a month.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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That's all fine but all of it is gone now and he's a lot older with more baggage than a Kardashian. I'll take the young guy with even more skins on the wall and who doesn't spend his time coming up with Memes about other candidates and doesn't leave his house more than a couple times a month.
The reason Trump beat Hillary and the reason it took massive amounts of cheating for Biden to barely beat Trump the second time is the massive movement from democrats to follow Trump. My parents are in that group.

He hammered home an "American First" platform. And, when in office, he did exactly what he said he'd do. America first jobs. America first energy independence. America first shut down the border. America first foreign policy. He didn't make it republican vs democrats. He made it he's for America and Hillary/Biden were not.

If DeSantis doesn't start selling this bigtime, he's gonna lose alot of that base.

And that base doesn't give two ****s about his tweets.
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Science Denier said:

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That's all fine but all of it is gone now and he's a lot older with more baggage than a Kardashian. I'll take the young guy with even more skins on the wall and who doesn't spend his time coming up with Memes about other candidates and doesn't leave his house more than a couple times a month.
The reason Trump beat Hillary and the reason it took massive amounts of cheating for Biden to barely beat Trump the second time is the massive movement from democrats to follow Trump. My parents are in that group.

He hammered home an "American First" platform. And, when in office, he did exactly what he said he'd do. America first jobs. America first energy independence. America first shut down the border. America first foreign policy. He didn't make it republican vs democrats. He made it he's for America and Hillary/Biden were not.

If DeSantis doesn't start selling this bigtime, he's gonna lose alot of that base.

And that base doesn't give two ****s about his tweets.
Then they aren't paying attention to anything except for what he did 4 years ago, because that is almost all he is doing now. If they were, they would be concerned, and he can't continue to hide out taking off the wall pot shots forever. Not only that, but that particular base is dwindling, not only from being turned off by his recent behavior, but also because they are aging and dying off.
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Tuberville was coach of the year and went undefeated in 2004.

So, just like Trump, his best days are behind him. Fitting.
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Phatbob said:

Science Denier said:

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That's all fine but all of it is gone now and he's a lot older with more baggage than a Kardashian. I'll take the young guy with even more skins on the wall and who doesn't spend his time coming up with Memes about other candidates and doesn't leave his house more than a couple times a month.
The reason Trump beat Hillary and the reason it took massive amounts of cheating for Biden to barely beat Trump the second time is the massive movement from democrats to follow Trump. My parents are in that group.

He hammered home an "American First" platform. And, when in office, he did exactly what he said he'd do. America first jobs. America first energy independence. America first shut down the border. America first foreign policy. He didn't make it republican vs democrats. He made it he's for America and Hillary/Biden were not.

If DeSantis doesn't start selling this bigtime, he's gonna lose alot of that base.

And that base doesn't give two ****s about his tweets.
Then they aren't paying attention to anything except for what he did 4 years ago. If they were, they would be concerned, and he can't continue to hide out taking off the wall pot shots forever. Not only that, but that particular base is dwindling, not only from being turned off by his recent behavior, but also because they are aging and dying off.
Hard working American labor is not dying off. Well, their jobs are due to Biden's China first policy.
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Labor leaders have worked for months to sell their members on Biden, hoping to avoid a repeat of 2016 when Donald Trump outperformed among union members and won the White House. But despite a bevy of national union endorsements for Biden and years of what leaders call attacks on organized labor from the Trump administration, local officials in critical battleground states said support for Trump remains solid.
It took massive cheating to beat Trump in 2020 due to this huge democrat lead in labor. He also got record number of minority votes due to his actually helping them with good, high paying jobs. If Trump wins the nomination, he's going after those that now have learned their lessons. If DeSantis wins, he has to hammer HARD a similar America first narrative or these people that historically vote democrat will again vote democrat.
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Old May Banker said:

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Tuberville was coach of the year and went undefeated in 2004.

So, just like Trump, his best days are behind him. Fitting.
In football, not politics. He beat the **** out of an incumbent democrat to win his senate seat, which was a couple of years ago.

But I get what TDS does to one's brain and would ELEVATE the relavence of his football coaching career a decade ago to his senate campaign where he won by 20 points.
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