The Sutherland Springs shooter should have been in a mental institution for domestic violence?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
The guy that was already not allowed to own a gun by existing laws?B-1 83 said:
The Sutherland Springs shooter should have been in a mental institution for domestic violence?
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If we outlawed and confiscated everything but revolvers then there would be less rounds shot and less people killed and injured. I'm not in favor of it, but in theory that would lessen death to an extent.
JB99 said:
If we outlawed and confiscated everything but revolvers then there would be less rounds shot and less people killed and injured. I'm not in favor of it, but in theory that would lessen death to an extent.
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Why is mental health so much worse here than in the godless countries of Europe and Canada?
This is Texas gawdammit!JWinTX said:
There was a no-gun zone sign at the mall…I mean, it's almost as if someone who wants to commit a crime doesn't care about laws.
TxTarpon said:This is Texas gawdammit!JWinTX said:
There was a no-gun zone sign at the mall…I mean, it's almost as if someone who wants to commit a crime doesn't care about laws.
A constitutional carry state!
There should have been 10 good guys with guns mowing down this human (censored) before he made two step from his car.
deddog said:The citizens of Uvalde booted out Beto.AgsMyDude said:PascalsWager said:
Liberals are wrong on the gun issue.
Conservatives are ALSO wrong on the gun issue.
Guns are not a problem. But people with guns are also not a real problem. Even bad guys with guns are barely a problem.
You're not going to die in a mass shooting. Your kid isn't going to die in a mass shooting as school. You're not ever going to be shot at. Knock on wood if you want, but the probabilities are extremely low. So low that other things of such low probabilities you don't even think about much less prepare for. You can live your ENTIRE life in America without even seeing a gun outside of it being attached to a cop's hip.
Guns are an irrelevancy in America. Outside some niche areas and situations. Stop trying to fix problems that don't exist. Its not the guns, its not the mental health, its not the godlessness, its NOTHING.
Soo what do you say to the parents from Uvalde, Nashville, etc. ?
Sorry your kids were murdered unnecessarily but the odds are low. You just got unlucky?
I'm tired of innocent children being slaughtered in our country. It's disgusting.
They realized that not only did the Government not protect their kids, they actively stopped people who were.
Want to reduce kids being shot?
How about doing the obvious, and have armed cops at schools
Enough with the No guns signs. law breakers dont obey laws
Stop voting democrats into office.
Stop voting democrats into school boards who are disarming resource officers because BLM.
Stop voting democrat DAs who let out criminals in the name of equity
Stop voting a Democrat President who lets violent illegals into the country
Stop voting democrat judges who refuse to enforce our laws
Whats disgusting is democrats deliberately creating policies that makes it easier for criminals to kill people including children and then use that as an excuse to disarm law abiding citizens.
Saxsoon said:TxTarpon said:This is Texas gawdammit!JWinTX said:
There was a no-gun zone sign at the mall…I mean, it's almost as if someone who wants to commit a crime doesn't care about laws.
A constitutional carry state!
There should have been 10 good guys with guns mowing down this human (censored) before he made two step from his car.
And yet they didn't
barbacoa taco said:deddog said:The citizens of Uvalde booted out Beto.AgsMyDude said:PascalsWager said:
Liberals are wrong on the gun issue.
Conservatives are ALSO wrong on the gun issue.
Guns are not a problem. But people with guns are also not a real problem. Even bad guys with guns are barely a problem.
You're not going to die in a mass shooting. Your kid isn't going to die in a mass shooting as school. You're not ever going to be shot at. Knock on wood if you want, but the probabilities are extremely low. So low that other things of such low probabilities you don't even think about much less prepare for. You can live your ENTIRE life in America without even seeing a gun outside of it being attached to a cop's hip.
Guns are an irrelevancy in America. Outside some niche areas and situations. Stop trying to fix problems that don't exist. Its not the guns, its not the mental health, its not the godlessness, its NOTHING.
Soo what do you say to the parents from Uvalde, Nashville, etc. ?
Sorry your kids were murdered unnecessarily but the odds are low. You just got unlucky?
I'm tired of innocent children being slaughtered in our country. It's disgusting.
They realized that not only did the Government not protect their kids, they actively stopped people who were.
Want to reduce kids being shot?
How about doing the obvious, and have armed cops at schools
Enough with the No guns signs. law breakers dont obey laws
Stop voting democrats into office.
Stop voting democrats into school boards who are disarming resource officers because BLM.
Stop voting democrat DAs who let out criminals in the name of equity
Stop voting a Democrat President who lets violent illegals into the country
Stop voting democrat judges who refuse to enforce our laws
Whats disgusting is democrats deliberately creating policies that makes it easier for criminals to kill people including children and then use that as an excuse to disarm law abiding citizens.
So you're trying to blame the democrats for this?
Republicans have controlled Texas from top to bottom for the last 30 years. And Allen is in red Collin county. Can't blame the Dems for this one, buddy.
barbacoa taco said:deddog said:The citizens of Uvalde booted out Beto.AgsMyDude said:PascalsWager said:
Liberals are wrong on the gun issue.
Conservatives are ALSO wrong on the gun issue.
Guns are not a problem. But people with guns are also not a real problem. Even bad guys with guns are barely a problem.
You're not going to die in a mass shooting. Your kid isn't going to die in a mass shooting as school. You're not ever going to be shot at. Knock on wood if you want, but the probabilities are extremely low. So low that other things of such low probabilities you don't even think about much less prepare for. You can live your ENTIRE life in America without even seeing a gun outside of it being attached to a cop's hip.
Guns are an irrelevancy in America. Outside some niche areas and situations. Stop trying to fix problems that don't exist. Its not the guns, its not the mental health, its not the godlessness, its NOTHING.
Soo what do you say to the parents from Uvalde, Nashville, etc. ?
Sorry your kids were murdered unnecessarily but the odds are low. You just got unlucky?
I'm tired of innocent children being slaughtered in our country. It's disgusting.
They realized that not only did the Government not protect their kids, they actively stopped people who were.
Want to reduce kids being shot?
How about doing the obvious, and have armed cops at schools
Enough with the No guns signs. law breakers dont obey laws
Stop voting democrats into office.
Stop voting democrats into school boards who are disarming resource officers because BLM.
Stop voting democrat DAs who let out criminals in the name of equity
Stop voting a Democrat President who lets violent illegals into the country
Stop voting democrat judges who refuse to enforce our laws
Whats disgusting is democrats deliberately creating policies that makes it easier for criminals to kill people including children and then use that as an excuse to disarm law abiding citizens.
So you're trying to blame the democrats for this?
Republicans have controlled Texas from top to bottom for the last 30 years. And Allen is in red Collin county. Can't blame the Dems for this one, buddy.
This. If I'm at a mall with the wife and kid (because why else would I find myself at a mall) and a mass shooting occurs, I'm collecting my family and heading post haste to the nearest exit. The only way I'm pulling my gun is if there is a shooter between us and our only route to safety.fire09 said:
While I'm sure this is in jest, most trained concealed carriers will egress from a live fire situation like this whenever possible with their loved ones.
New to this board?fire09 said:
While I'm sure this is in jest, most trained concealed carriers will egress from a live fire situation like this whenever possible with their loved ones.
It has happened numerous times, but the media doesn't make a big deal about those because it doesn't fit the narrative.TxTarpon said:New to this board?fire09 said:
While I'm sure this is in jest, most trained concealed carriers will egress from a live fire situation like this whenever possible with their loved ones.
For decades it has been "CHL carriers will stop bad guys with guns".
You are more correct in your answer.
Unless the shooter is in my eyesight, I am not going hunting for him.
As we have been in several MSEs good guys with guns will get shot by the police.
Does your wife never go to the mall without you? What about your kids?Quote:
This. If I'm at a mall with the wife and kid (because why else would I find myself at a mall) and a mass shooting occurs, I'm collecting my family and heading post haste to the nearest exit. The only way I'm pulling my gun is if there is a shooter between us and our only route to safety.
I'm responsible for the safety of my wife, my kid, and myself. Not the rest of y'all.
Absolutely.barbacoa taco said:deddog said:The citizens of Uvalde booted out Beto.AgsMyDude said:PascalsWager said:
Liberals are wrong on the gun issue.
Conservatives are ALSO wrong on the gun issue.
Guns are not a problem. But people with guns are also not a real problem. Even bad guys with guns are barely a problem.
You're not going to die in a mass shooting. Your kid isn't going to die in a mass shooting as school. You're not ever going to be shot at. Knock on wood if you want, but the probabilities are extremely low. So low that other things of such low probabilities you don't even think about much less prepare for. You can live your ENTIRE life in America without even seeing a gun outside of it being attached to a cop's hip.
Guns are an irrelevancy in America. Outside some niche areas and situations. Stop trying to fix problems that don't exist. Its not the guns, its not the mental health, its not the godlessness, its NOTHING.
Soo what do you say to the parents from Uvalde, Nashville, etc. ?
Sorry your kids were murdered unnecessarily but the odds are low. You just got unlucky?
I'm tired of innocent children being slaughtered in our country. It's disgusting.
They realized that not only did the Government not protect their kids, they actively stopped people who were.
Want to reduce kids being shot?
How about doing the obvious, and have armed cops at schools
Enough with the No guns signs. law breakers dont obey laws
Stop voting democrats into office.
Stop voting democrats into school boards who are disarming resource officers because BLM.
Stop voting democrat DAs who let out criminals in the name of equity
Stop voting a Democrat President who lets violent illegals into the country
Stop voting democrat judges who refuse to enforce our laws
Whats disgusting is democrats deliberately creating policies that makes it easier for criminals to kill people including children and then use that as an excuse to disarm law abiding citizens.
So you're trying to blame the democrats for this?
Republicans have controlled Texas from top to bottom for the last 30 years. And Allen is in red Collin county. Can't blame the Dems for this one, buddy.
Definitely don't be responsible for democrats.Slicer97 said:This. If I'm at a mall with the wife and kid (because why else would I find myself at a mall) and a mass shooting occurs, I'm collecting my family and heading post haste to the nearest exit. The only way I'm pulling my gun is if there is a shooter between us and our only route to safety.fire09 said:
While I'm sure this is in jest, most trained concealed carriers will egress from a live fire situation like this whenever possible with their loved ones.
I'm responsible for the safety of my wife, my kid, and myself. Not the rest of y'all.
I accompany my wife, and while she doesn't yet carry, she is training.SteveA said:Does your wife never go to the mall without you? What about your kids?Quote:
This. If I'm at a mall with the wife and kid (because why else would I find myself at a mall) and a mass shooting occurs, I'm collecting my family and heading post haste to the nearest exit. The only way I'm pulling my gun is if there is a shooter between us and our only route to safety.
I'm responsible for the safety of my wife, my kid, and myself. Not the rest of y'all.
We've been down this road so many times. I'd be more interested in a thread about ideas that would more likely mitigate these things and that conservatives can actually champion. We keep going back to "I don't know what the answer is but taking guns away isn't it". I agree....but why are we pushing hard toward other options? And not even just to counter the dems but to show we really want to work to mitigate these events.B-1 83 said:
Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?
EDIT FROM THE OP: Please be respectful and hear out what potential "solutions" are proposed without going into name calling and attack mode. That's gets threads killed and users banned.
Because when you get right down to it the solutions that need to happen to eliminate crimes such as this are not palatable to the majority of the populationBluHorseShu said:We've been down this road so many times. I'd be more interested in a thread about ideas that would more likely mitigate these things and that conservatives can actually champion. We keep going back to "I don't know what the answer is but taking guns away isn't it". I agree....but why are we pushing hard toward other options? And not even just to counter the dems but to show we really want to work to mitigate these events.B-1 83 said:
Will our resident gun control crowd please explain what gun laws would have stopped the more recent mass shootings?
EDIT FROM THE OP: Please be respectful and hear out what potential "solutions" are proposed without going into name calling and attack mode. That's gets threads killed and users banned.