I did this once.
We owned a greed Ford Focus 2002. Around 2003, my wife and I got into our car, we sat in and my key did not work to start the car. Then I looked around, everything looked different inside.
I was sitting in someone else's car!
We got out quickly.

Of course, not Texas, so no kooks to shoot you for that.

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ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy. He has tried to justify every shooting recently, and has erroneously tried to apply the law to support himself over and over in very unreasonable ways.

Based off details available at this point this is a bad bad shoot.

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Second, where did I defend this shooting? I said people need to be accountable for their actions and parents need to teach their children to be situationally aware.
And that the shooter was an idiot.

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If you're not defending it to some extent, you're obfuscating the issue to try to turn this away from the guy who fired the gun to focusing on the actions of the girls (and their parents!)

As has been described in this thread, it is "common" for people to get into or try to get into the wrong car. It happens a ton. Our parents didn't fail us all nor do we all lack common sense. Mistakes happen.


If your point is to defend gun rights/gun ownership, you're not doing that any favors trying to cook up defenses to bad shots or trying to muddy the waters as you're doing here. Promote and protect the responsible use of guns by calling out irresponsible use of guns, full stop.

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We are going to lose our access to guns because of a small minority of idiots who can't handle them.

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That's how society works. We only move as fast as our slowest runners. There's a reason you can't drink and drive. Or need prescriptions for drugs. We all should be capable of knowing our limits and respecting them but the actions of a few necessitate the restriction for all.

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aggielostinETX said:

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AggieKatie2 said:

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ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy. He has tried to justify every shooting recently, and has erroneously tried to apply the law to support himself over and over in very unreasonable ways.

Based off details available at this point this is a bad bad shoot.

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Second, where did I defend this shooting? I said people need to be accountable for their actions and parents need to teach their children to be situationally aware.
And that the shooter was an idiot.

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If you're not defending it to some extent, you're obfuscating the issue to try to turn this away from the guy who fired the gun to focusing on the actions of the girls (and their parents!)

As has been described in this thread, it is "common" for people to get into or try to get into the wrong car. It happens a ton. Our parents didn't fail us all nor do we all lack common sense. Mistakes happen.


If your point is to defend gun rights/gun ownership, you're not doing that any favors trying to cook up defenses to bad shots or trying to muddy the waters as you're doing here. Promote and protect the responsible use of guns by calling out irresponsible use of guns, full stop.

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I am not defending a idiot shooting into a car full of people who aren't threat. It dumb, he's going to jail.

I am saying teach your kids to be aware of what's going on and not to do dumb*****

The law in the state of Texas is not on the side of people who get into other peoples cars, enter their businesses, or walk into peoples houses. Teach your kids that. Note: this does not apply in this case as the girls had retreated and were no longer a threat.

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White people shot…..nothing to see here. Move on

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You sure about that?

The young lady in the hospital does not appear to be white.

This story doesn't make any senses as written.

PeekingDuck said:

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This story doesn't make any senses as written.

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Depraved acts of violence usually do not make sense.


She mistakenly woke him up, he got pissed and started shooting. That is the most likely scenario. He didn't feel threatened, don't anyone try to sell that line!

I am all for free will and all but parents letting HS students drive to and from Woodlands arriving at midnight?!? These parents will play 'what if' games for rest of their lives. I hope both GSW victims pull through.

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very sad state of affairs

are you boys serious that you have actually opened a door and gotten into the wrong car before?!

were you completely falling over drunk?

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A few years ago I parked my truck, and was running into a doctor's appointment when I realized I had left some documents in my truck. I ran back to get them and was trying to open the passenger side door when I realized there was someone sitting in the drivers seat. It was then that I realized the he had just pulled in next to my truck. Same make, model, and color. So yes, it can happen easily.

Y'all might wanna tap the brakes on assuming the race of the cheerleader.

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Y'all might wanna tap the brakes on assuming the race of the cheerleader.

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You're right, she actually looks black or part black (which is black, according to America) upon closer review. Making the shooter super duper extra racist with cheese. Oh wait, he's a cholo thug, he can't be racist. Only whites can.

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fc2112 said:

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Y'all might wanna tap the brakes on assuming the race of the cheerleader.

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You're right, she actually looks black or part black (which is black, according to America) upon closer review. Making the shooter super duper extra racist with cheese. Oh wait, he's a cholo thug, he can't be racist. Only whites can.

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You post like Grande Rob

TxTarpon said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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fc2112 said:

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Y'all might wanna tap the brakes on assuming the race of the cheerleader.

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You're right, she actually looks black or part black (which is black, according to America) upon closer review. Making the shooter super duper extra racist with cheese. Oh wait, he's a cholo thug, he can't be racist. Only whites can.

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You post like Grande Rob

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Probably the highest compliment I've ever rec'd on Texags.

This kid should have employed some of her super human powers to tumble away from the bullets.

TxTarpon said:

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See also poster here who had a Gregg Popovich car encounter.

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Still wild... and I thought about this immediately when I read story. I recognized him immediately, but my HR def jumped way up given he opened Driver's door and my back was turned talking to 5yr old daughter in back seat. He was def as stunned as I was.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3304076/replies/64637781#64637781

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Texas doesn't require retreat. The person gets back into a car and then rolls the window down. How is the driver of the other car to know you didn't go back to the car to get a weapon because you realized the car was occupied? Then you roll the window down. Yeah...bad sequence of events.

No 25 year old chilling in his car in the HEB parking lot is looking to shoot and maim some HS kids out of malice. They started this sequnce by not paying attention which vehicle was theirs.

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Idiotic.

They were teenage girls. Who the F opens fire on teenage girls in cheerleading outfits?

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Someone who is always situationally aware.

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They were cheerleaders....come on now. The owner of the gun should have been more situationally aware.

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I believe that was sarcasm you were responding to.

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Yikes...How did I miss that...Mea culpa

Sounds like we need to put some Doss stickers on our vehicles to differentiate so we don't make the same mistake.

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Once the guy left his car, he became the aggressor.

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Agree. There is no self defense available here.

fc2112 said:

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This kid should have employed some of her super human powers to tumble away from the bullets.

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Thanks for posting. Rectifies a bunch of dumb comments.

Prayers she recovers fully and is able to return to what she clearly loves doing.

Some other details not considered yet. Since she was not driving there is 66%+ chance she was on the passenger side of the car dropping her off. The driver of the car dropping off likely pulled up to the wrong car with her side to the driver side. They could have been yapping and she jumped out and grabbed the handle of the drivers door but the shooter was in the passenger seat. Had he been in the drivers seat this is likely avoided.

For him to get out of the passenger seat and pursue a fleeing kid is well beyond protecting what is not even likely his and or a self defense case no chance. Had he been in the driver seat she opens the door and at same time reaches for cell phone in pocket or purse different story.

Again prayers for her complete recovery.

fc2112 said:

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This kid should have employed some of her super human powers to tumble away from the bullets.

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Saw that they have a gofundme for "medical expenses". So they can afford to send her off to expensive gyms around he country, a jordan collection, etc but not health insurance?

GFM accounts can be set up by anyone. Does not have to be the family.

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fc2112 said:

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This kid should have employed some of her super human powers to tumble away from the bullets.

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Saw that they have a gofundme for "medical expenses". So they can afford to send her off to expensive gyms around he country, a jordan collection, etc but not health insurance?

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It wasn't set up by her family but by the Cheer group.

This should be charged as 2 counts of attempted murder. I'm all for gun rights. Those rights come with responsibility.

Dem cities are dangerous places.

I don’t know why anyone would be concerned about someone just ringing their doorbell. pic.twitter.com/DtyeUuWMu3

— Rev. Ducati 🏁🏴‍☠️ (@Reverend_Ducati) April 19, 2023

fc2112 said:

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This kid should have employed some of her super human powers to tumble away from the bullets.

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Unrelated to the shooting, maybe other than recovery, but she was born with one lung. And was still able to do competitive cheer.

And while undoubtedly it is highly athletic, I still can't call cheer a "sport".

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And while undoubtedly it is highly athletic, I still can't call cheer a "sport".

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go get em tiger!

hoosier-daddy said:

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48 hour rule, right?

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I think so. The article reads like the girls were shot after trying to drive off with the car. Doesn't sound like a drunk kid getting in the wrong car but a failed car-jacking.

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48 hour rule, right?

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I think so. The article reads like the girls were shot after trying to drive off with the car. Doesn't sound like a drunk kid getting in the wrong car but a failed car-jacking.

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Huh?

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48 hour rule, right?

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I think so. The article reads like the girls were shot after trying to drive off with the car. Doesn't sound like a drunk kid getting in the wrong car but a failed car-jacking.

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Did you take a whole gummy for breakfast?

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The article was poorly written. Midway through it states that:

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And so they tried to speed off and he shot his gun, like five times or so into the car.

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Only later in the article does is state that the girls got out of the suspect's car before jumping back into their own vehicle but I had quit reading at that point.

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lb3 said:

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48 hour rule, right?

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I think so. The article reads like the girls were shot after trying to drive off with the car. Doesn't sound like a drunk kid getting in the wrong car but a failed car-jacking.

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Did you take a whole gummy for breakfast?

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The article was poorly written. Midway through it states that:

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And so they tried to speed off and he shot his gun, like five times or so into the car.

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Only later in the article does is state that the girls got out of the suspect's car before jumping back into their own vehicle but I had quit reading at that point.

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So you did take the whole gummy...

Well, it is 4-20....