The Boomer die off will see the collapse of Western civilization

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Nanomachines son
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I know most of us Gen X and younger people don't want to hear it but Boomers are basically the last thing holding many many fields together. When they stop even consulting, it's more or less all over in many different fields.

This thread is a nightmare of what the future holds. There are far more examples of what's going to happen in that thread form others and examples of where we sit in other fields.

Boomers made plenty of mistakes to be sure, one of the major ones being not encouraging their own kids to go into the same fields they were in, but they are the glue that is slowly being eroded away from time alone.

I fully expect that we'll start seeing massive disasters throughout transportation, construction, industry, and more as shortcuts get taken and expertise goes down.
Pookers
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Not to worry, the hordes of 3rd worlders flooding across the boarder will stand in the gap and carry civilization for us.
Nanomachines son
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Pookers said:

Not to worry, the hordes of 3rd worlders flooding across the boarder will stand in the gap and carry civilization for us.


Import the 3rd world get the 3rd world!
TxTarpon
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Five to one, baby
One in five
No one here gets out alive, now
You get yours, baby
I'll get mine





Aggie95
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Sounds miserable....[digging a hole now to go live in]
Pookers
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TxTarpon said:

Five to one, baby
One in five
No one here gets out alive, now
You get yours, baby
I'll get mine






Jokes on you boomer, I don't have a yard to mow. /s
DrEvazanPhD
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Why are you worried about this? We've already figured out that certain physical/mental characteristics for pilots, doctors, mechanics, etc., are much more important than knowledge. It's science, bro.
Space-Tech
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Or, and I know this is crazy, maybe pay blue collar workers more?

Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks. Who wants a life doing hard/technical work only to live in poverty?
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etxag02
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Pookers
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Nanomachines son said:

Pookers said:

Not to worry, the hordes of 3rd worlders flooding across the boarder will stand in the gap and carry civilization for us.


Import the 3rd world get the 3rd world!
Yep, the US is screwed. Civic nationalism is and always has been a lie.
Hungry Ojos
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Space-Tech said:



Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks
TxTarpon
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Jokes on you boomer, I don't have a yard to mow. /s


FrioAg 00
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In many ways, this is similar to problems being created now.

Boomers doing hands-on, dirty and difficult jobs were also told thru were the victims. Their "oppressors" were painted as lawyers, suits and business folks in the front office. They weren't able to revolt, really, because back then they didn't believe the government services could bail them out.

But what they could do was teach their kids to aim for those roles explicitly.

Pookers
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TxTarpon said:


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Jokes on you boomer, I don't have a yard to mow. /s



Looks nervously away.
TxTarpon
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Simple life is great!
Savor it!

The first 40 years of your life are about acquisition.
The next 40 are about relevance.
Get to that relevance part faster.
Nanomachines son
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Space-Tech said:

Or, and I know this is crazy, maybe pay blue collar workers more?

Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks. Who wants a life doing hard/technical work only to live in poverty?


Not even knowing how to get into many of these fields is another problem. Of course as soon as a white man tries, they get cut due to diversity requirements.





Teslag
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Space-Tech said:

Or, and I know this is crazy, maybe pay blue collar workers more?

Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks. Who wants a life doing hard/technical work only to live in poverty?


Most illegals doing hard construction labor live above poverty. In fact many do quite well.
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Space-Tech said:

Or, and I know this is crazy, maybe pay blue collar workers more?

Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks. Who wants a life doing hard/technical work only to live in poverty?
Telling us you don't know what real work is, or what many of these jobs pay, without coming out and saying it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Nanomachines son
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etxag02 said:




I'm 40, I'm not a Boomer. Anyone who can't see what is coming is delusional. AI take many jobs will make this issue exponentially worse.
MemphisAg1
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Borderline boomer/GenX here. Agree that pain is ahead, but it's not because of boomer's retiring. There are plenty of qualified people in the younger generations.

But the media-driven obsession with Diversity and Inclusion excludes a lot of qualified people (white men) and forces hiring of less qualified people.

To be very clear, there are absolutely well-qualified women and minorities. Some of them are best in class. There's just not enough of them to go around, so standards get lowered to bring in enough people that meet the D&I quotas.
TxTarpon
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Teslag said:

Space-Tech said:

Or, and I know this is crazy, maybe pay blue collar workers more?

Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks. Who wants a life doing hard/technical work only to live in poverty?


Most illegals doing hard construction labor live above poverty. In fact many do quite well.
Wait
Wait
Wait

Our construction companies' owner poster here says that does not happen.
Nanomachines son
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Yep
Ted Lasso
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the timing of the AI generation seems interesting
AGinHI
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This is the problem with everyone under the sun having the ability to broadcast their thoughts; they're exaggerating their own uneasiness and passing it on to everyone else.
“We don't have a government of the people, by the people, for the people. We have government of the people, by the bureaucrats, for the bureaucrats.”

-Milton Friedman
American Hardwood
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Space-Tech said:

Or, and I know this is crazy, maybe pay blue collar workers more?

Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks. Who wants a life doing hard/technical work only to live in poverty?
That attitude right there is why we have a problem.
Nanomachines son
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This is why Elon Musk is unique nowadays. He has the mindset of an engineer and is a visionary, while virtually every other company is run by penny pinchers who don't understand a damn thing about any of the actual work on the ground.
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MemphisAg1 said:

Borderline boomer/GenX here. Agree that pain is ahead, but it's not because of boomer's retiring. There are plenty of qualified people in the younger generations.

But the media-driven obsession with Diversity and Inclusion excludes a lot of qualified people (white men) and forces hiring of less qualified people.

To be very clear, there are absolutely well-qualified women and minorities. Some of them are best in class. There's just not enough of them to go around, so standards get lowered to bring in enough people that meet the D&I quotas.
Yup.

The white male is the last person to get a job in this current scenario.

Son had a job interview yesterday and was more qualified than the interviewer he would work for, (black female). She flushed him in the same day, with the weakest of rationale. He wouldn't have taken the job anyway.

Idiots have taken charge. We are doomed.
Pookers
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American Hardwood said:

Space-Tech said:

Or, and I know this is crazy, maybe pay blue collar workers more?

Labor shortages only exist because the pay sucks. Who wants a life doing hard/technical work only to live in poverty?
That attitude right there is why we have a problem.
It is kind of a problem. The left's solution is to just get on the government doll and demand higher wages, the conservative position is to just bring in cheap foreign labor. Neither are good solutions.
No Spin Ag
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If the future is bleak then I'd want to know why the Boomers failed to keep it from getting that way. They were the ones in charge from the 70s until very recently, so things that occurred in every aspect of our lives, they were the ones making the decisions. Hell, they're still alive and at least in congress and the white house (current and former), still making the decisions.

So again, where did they fail? Was it with how they raised their offspring? Did they balls selfish decisions without thinking how it would affect future generations? Were they too stupid to know what they were doing would put us on this situations? Being the biggest and most influential generation in the past century means you're also the most responsible and accountable.

We hold parents to account when their kids go astray. That should be no different when it comes to the Boomers and things like this.

No, they're not responsible for everything, but again, they were in charge for longer than anyone else, and they're still holding on.
Pookers
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No Spin Ag said:

If the future is bleak then I'd want to know why the Boomers failed to keep it from getting that way. They were the ones in charge from the 70s until very recently, so things that occurred in every aspect of our lives, they were the ones making the decisions. Hell, they're still alive and at least in congress and the white house (current and former), still making the decisions.

So again, where did they fail? Was it with how they raised their offspring? Did they balls selfish decisions without thinking how it would affect future generations? Were they too stupid to know what they were doing would put us on this situations? Being the biggest and most influential generation in the past century means you're also the most responsible and accountable.

We hold parents to account when their kids go astray. That should be no different when it comes to the Boomers and things like this.

No, they're not responsible for everything, but again, they were in charge for longer than anyone else, and they're still holding on.
Their biggest failing was not getting rid of the Hart Celler act.
Nanomachines son
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AGinHI said:

This is the problem with everyone under the sun having the ability to broadcast their thoughts; they're exaggerating their own uneasiness and passing it on to everyone else.




I've heard this same sentiment from so many different people in so many different industries that it's very obvious there is a major problem. This is almost certainly one of the reasons why we have been seeing more industrial accidents and more almost plane crashes and so much more. The competence is leaving and companies no longer have the necessary expertise to run at a high level.
FrioAg 00
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This hits home in my life.

I'm way handier than 80-90% of my generation when it comes to mechanical, materials handling, electric, etc.

But I'd be in the bottom quarter of the boomers. My 72 year old Dad still had to come help me with the really complicated projects I take on - I am constantly impressed with chit he just knows.

And I'm not going to start on the average 30 year old. We have done them a huge injustice.
Nanomachines son
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No Spin Ag said:

If the future is bleak then I'd want to know why the Boomers failed to keep it from getting that way. They were the ones in charge from the 70s until very recently, so things that occurred in every aspect of our lives, they were the ones making the decisions. Hell, they're still alive and at least in congress and the white house (current and former), still making the decisions.

So again, where did they fail? Was it with how they raised their offspring? Did they balls selfish decisions without thinking how it would affect future generations? Were they too stupid to know what they were doing would put us on this situations? Being the biggest and most influential generation in the past century means you're also the most responsible and accountable.

We hold parents to account when their kids go astray. That should be no different when it comes to the Boomers and things like this.

No, they're not responsible for everything, but again, they were in charge for longer than anyone else, and they're still holding on.


They failed by telling their kids degrees in worthless **** was okay and not passing down their experience and knowledge to their own kids.

Far too many kids avoided their parents professions like the plague because of what their parents told them. Now we have massive Brain drain everywhere and no one is left to carry the water.
American Hardwood
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Stigmatizing labor and telling everyone they are going to be poor and have a ****ty life is wrong and has been a huge factor in creating this problem. I don';t know any conservative businessman that thinks that importing cheap labor is the answer. The businessmen in manufacturing that I know want skilled, dependable labor and would happily employ skilled US citizens and pay them well, but finding those people is hard, in part, because otherwise good young candidates have been convinced that they have to go to college and get law degrees or their life will suck.
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"All facing major staffing shortages..."

Good thing the public education system is preparing students for these technical jobs by eliminating technical classes. All those pronoun lectures will really come in handy.
 
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