Biden EPA set to announce major tailpipe emission restrictions to force EV adoption

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6:57a, 4/9/23
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/08/epa-reportedly-planning-to-announce-significant-limits-on-tailpipe-emissions.html

Looks like an EO coming to force substantial electrification by 2032. They are coming after our cars. I am outraged because EV's in their present state don't work for me. I drive long distances regularly (from DFW to Houston, Colorado, South Texas, etc.). Wonder what the gas station operators think about this this. They will be coming after our thermostats next.....then God knows what else.
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6:59a, 4/9/23
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7:00a, 4/9/23
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Tell the EPA that when China and India start participating, we will too
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In reply to 2wealfth Man • 7:01a, 4/9/23
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... gas station operators ...
The one thing that could force me away from driving my small, 100% manual equipped fleet. Even if it's like it is now where there are still a few ethanol free gas stations, they're all inconvenient to get to and with less trucks and shipping to those stations I don't see how cost wouldn't skyrocket.
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In reply to crowman2010 • 7:02a, 4/9/23
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Tell the EPA that when China and India start participating, we will too
The dems are always focused on making our "other" sliver in the pie chart of world emmissions smaller instead of something that would have a meaningful outcome.
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7:03a, 4/9/23
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This is why we MUST NOT let the Obama run Biden regime, or Newsome win in 2024. We need a staunch right Republican to shove that EO straight up Biden's tailpipe.
"Green" is the new RED.
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7:08a, 4/9/23
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The good thing about ruling by EO is the next person in office just undoes it.

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7:17a, 4/9/23
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Aoc is right, ignore the *******
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7:18a, 4/9/23
They are all invested in lithium. Guess oil stock are too high for new group of money grabbers in Washington. Can't buy Exxon yet, but can load up on Penny lithium stock start up companies.
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7:25a, 4/9/23
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I can't wait for us to regress to Cuban levels of automotive development.
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7:33a, 4/9/23
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Just ignore it. It's what they would do if the roles were reversed.
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In reply to Old Sarge • 7:36a, 4/9/23
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Old Sarge said:
This is why we MUST NOT let the Obama run Biden regime, or Newsome win in 2024. We need a staunch right Republican to shove that EO straight up Biden's tailpipe.


Problem with EOs like this is that manufacturers start retooling for it and then it's hard for them to switch back.

Hopefully, this has no teeth until later and they ignore it to see if Desantis can get nominated and then win. If he doesn't, then this is on. That's your only hope.

Also, this is where I laugh at any posters who say, "EVs aren't being mandated; you don't have to buy one."
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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 7:36a, 4/9/23
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Irreconcilable differences. A split is inevitable.
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7:45a, 4/9/23
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Libs already have stated you can choose which laws (and I assume EOs includes too) you have to follow and not follow. Just choose not to follow this. Get paper plates like their illegal voters use.
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8:30a, 4/9/23
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Looks like I have a new plan for when I retire...

I'm starting a used car business. I'm gonna make BANK!!!!
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8:33a, 4/9/23
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Engage in widespread civil disobedience if they attempt such a thing. Park gas cars at all charging stations for a week. Stuff like that. Inflict economic and political pain on the idiots pushing this.
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8:44a, 4/9/23
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Pretty soon you won't be able to buy a car for less than 60k. EV's are expensive and supply+demand will send gas powered car prices through the roof.
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8:49a, 4/9/23
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Ignore them and take them to court. The unelected are making laws that were not voted on in congress.
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8:50a, 4/9/23
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Just another FJB deal
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9:19a, 4/9/23
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How very central planning of them.

FJB. Even though we all know it's Obama 3.0.
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9:38a, 4/9/23
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No mention of used / pre-owned vehicles in the article, but how long before they come after them.

Drunk on power and no roots in reality.
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In reply to CardiffGiant • 9:49a, 4/9/23
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CardiffGiant said:
Pretty soon you won't be able to buy a car for less than 60k. EV's are expensive and supply+demand will send gas powered car prices through the roof.
That's the idea. Fill the void with public transportation to control the public.
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In reply to The Fife • 10:04a, 4/9/23
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The Fife said:
crowman2010 said:
Tell the EPA that when China and India start participating, we will too
The dems are always focused on making our "other" sliver in the pie chart of world emmissions smaller instead of something that would have a meaningful outcome.
Irony in that they're not even doing that. The electricity to charge an EV's battery isn't flowing from some magical fountain we recently uncovered. Fossil fuels are still being burned somewhere and CO2 is still being emitted into our atmosphere at the same rate it always was for the same miles travelled.

This is about power and controlling the citizenry to ensure that continuing power. Everything else is just a BS cover story.
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In reply to flakrat • 10:07a, 4/9/23
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flakrat said:
No mention of used / pre-owned vehicles in the article, but how long before they come after them.

Drunk on power and no roots in reality.


A cash for clunkers 2.0 program will erase a lot of the used car market.
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10:19a, 4/9/23
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Also, this is where I laugh at any posters who say, "EVs aren't being mandated; you don't have to buy one."


"You don't have to get the vaccine. We'll just take away your ability to support yourself and your family if you don't "
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Screw that. Reconstitute the Articles of Confederation.
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10:26a, 4/9/23
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About tired of these dictatorial EOs. If that vegetable feels that strongly about it, he can encourage someone in the house to sponsor a bill and see what happens.
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10:29a, 4/9/23
Congress is free to pass legislation to scale back the EPA's regulatory powers involving vehicles but they have chosen not to do so
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In reply to 2wealfth Man • 10:46a, 4/9/23
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I hate Democrats.

They're stupid, evil and insane.

Always lying.

Always pushing false science.
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In reply to annie88 • 10:48a, 4/9/23
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Yes.

I wonder if this will be one of those 'special EO's' like Trump's order to abandon Bagram during fighting season or any number of Obama's January 2017 EO's which Obama judges (liars) said Trump could not rescind because the Kenyan One had spoken.
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In reply to YouBet • 10:58a, 4/9/23
YouBet said:
Old Sarge said:
This is why we MUST NOT let the Obama run Biden regime, or Newsome win in 2024. We need a staunch right Republican to shove that EO straight up Biden's tailpipe.


Problem with EOs like this is that manufacturers start retooling for it and then it's hard for them to switch back.

Hopefully, this has no teeth until later and they ignore it to see if Desantis can get nominated and then win. If he doesn't, then this is on. That's your only hope.

Also, this is where I laugh at any posters who say, "EVs aren't being mandated; you don't have to buy one."

The manufacturers are already retooling because of the California mandates that they already have to conform to. Biden's just riding the wave that's already coming and going to take credit for making it reality.
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In reply to WoMD • 11:25a, 4/9/23
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WoMD said:
YouBet said:
Old Sarge said:
This is why we MUST NOT let the Obama run Biden regime, or Newsome win in 2024. We need a staunch right Republican to shove that EO straight up Biden's tailpipe.


Problem with EOs like this is that manufacturers start retooling for it and then it's hard for them to switch back.

Hopefully, this has no teeth until later and they ignore it to see if Desantis can get nominated and then win. If he doesn't, then this is on. That's your only hope.

Also, this is where I laugh at any posters who say, "EVs aren't being mandated; you don't have to buy one."

The manufacturers are already retooling because of the California mandates that they already have to conform to. Biden's just riding the wave that's already coming and going to take credit for making it reality.
True. California is going to destroy this country.

There will have to be massive infrastructure build up to support any of this and as it stands there is some investment in charging stations that taxpayers are funding but nothing being done about production or the grid.
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In reply to Bubblez • 11:44a, 4/9/23
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Bubblez said:
Congress is free to pass legislation to scale back the EPA's regulatory powers involving vehicles but they have chosen not to do so
What the **** HAS congress done in the past 20 years?

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12:05p, 4/9/23
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The EPA, like Biden, is useless and unconstitutional and needs to be demolished along with the FBI, IRS, DoE, etc, etc, etc....
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