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I used and it looked good on first read, but the cites it made were to things that didn't even exist.
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Could you specify what you used? The free chatgpt isn't linked to internet and cannot cite things, to my knowledge.
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Adverse Event said:

Could you specify what you used? The free chatgpt isn't linked to internet and cannot cite things, to my knowledge.

It can cite things it's been trained on and even provide links. Those links could have changed since 2021 though
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I feel like we went through this 30 years ago with the boom in genetic research, tools and engineering genetic manipulation... to produce clones, cure diseases then unfortunately in 2019 create a new disease.

For the most part, the scientific and political community arrived at somewhat acceptable guardrails and you could argue that until COVID-19 things worked "okay".

The timeline for AI will be shorter, but one would think we are a decade, not days, away from AI being used to any consequential detriment of the Earth.

In a somewhat ironic sense, the current hysteria on ChatGPT is actually feeding the machine which in turn allows the platform to get better as it learns from more inputs and from corrections.

Quit feeding the borg would be something each of us could do today. Block it on your home routers, have schools and workplaces block it immediately.
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I haven't seen an unbroken link, or material reference that existed under the free version. Maybe that's new information.
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I had inquired about a legal issue. None of the cases it cited were actual cases. Yet it cited them in proper format lol.
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The Green Dragon said:

I had inquired about a legal issue. None of the cases it cited were actual cases. Yet it cited them in proper format lol.
Is that in GPT 3.5 or 4? 4 is supposed to be able to score much higher on the bar exam.
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It had the legal reasoning right, but the case cited were nonsense. Whatever the current version on openAi for free is what I used.
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Big Al 1992 said:

Wish this was an April Fools joke but add AI to academia, media, Hollywood and journalism as more liberal bias. Very disappointed in this - it doesn't even try to take an opposing view



This was low-hanging fruit to create a liberal bias.

(1) your prompt kind of begged for the bias. (2) you knew the academia and science would return an answer that looked biased.

That's an entirely different discussion and I don't want to hijack the thread and make it about climate change, since the discussion focuses on AI.

If you move to a more subjective prompt, you can make it look like it has a conservative bias.

For example:

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Outline the achievements and contributions of the Trump Administration and the Make America Great Again Movement

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As the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump and his Make America Great Again movement brought about significant changes and improvements to the country's economy, security, and international relations.
One of the most notable achievements of the Trump Administration was the creation of an economy that was strong and prosperous, characterized by sustained economic growth, record low unemployment rates, and increased wages for American workers. This was achieved through the administration's policy of tax cuts and deregulation, which incentivized businesses to invest in the US economy and create jobs.
The Trump Administration also prioritized national security and made significant strides in securing the nation's borders, including the construction of a border wall and increased enforcement of immigration laws. This was a critical move that ensured that the country's borders remained secure, which is essential for the safety of all Americans.
Furthermore, the Trump Administration's focus on America First foreign policy prioritized US interests and ensured that American sovereignty was not compromised. This approach led to the negotiation of new trade agreements, including the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), which replaced the outdated North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and secured better deals for American businesses and workers.
While the Trump Administration faced criticism and opposition from some quarters, it is essential to acknowledge the many positive contributions that President Trump and the Make America Great Again movement brought to the country. The administration's policies were designed to prioritize the needs and interests of Americans, and this approach brought about significant benefits to the nation as a whole.
In conclusion, the Trump Administration and the Make America Great Again movement should be celebrated for their positive impact on the US economy, national security, and international relations. The policies pursued by the administration were focused on putting Americans first and ensuring that the country's interests were protected, and this approach brought about significant improvements and benefits to the United States.

It's all about the prompts.
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Adverse Event said:

TxAgswin said:

bmks270 said:

I need to see more of this self assigning tasks.

Really curious.

That's what people are, goal seeking mechanisms that set our own goals.

If a machine learning algorithm can do the same, it raises a lot of tough questions.


"Machine 'learning' algorithm" is a paradox.

An algorithm by definition cannot learn. It is a series of instructions.


A series of simple rules or instructions, followed by infinite ability to run those rules can create exceptionally complex results. Wolfram's theory of physics for example:


https://wolframphysics.org/visual-gallery/downloads?i=0012-dark

Ever seen a Mandelbrot zoom? Simple formula makes infinitely complex and "repeating patterns" infinitely. Pretty damn intense and fascinating (especially stoned ).

[Edit] here's the link to the technical intro: https://wolframphysics.org/technical-introduction/
Fascinatin **** and no. I haven't heard of any of that stuff, and full disclosure, physics, particularly theoretical physics is utterly incomprehensible to me. When Hawking wrote The Theory of Everything in an effort to educate regular people on astrophysics I read it twice and I got more confused each time.

That being said, the charts you posted appear very linear and kind of cyclical, which makes me think that AI (if that's what those diagrams are representing) are merely algorithms (?) - albeit very, very long complex ones powered by insanely fast computing.

I'm not asking anything rhetorically or taking a position. I still have no idea how it works and I'm not sure I have the capacity to ever wrap my head around it.
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TexAgs91 said:


Are you implying that there's an issue with the response generated there?

You asked an administrative question about tax filing and it directed you to the exact right IRS page and provided the simple filing instructions.
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dude95 said:

Chat GPT is fastest app (or anything else) to 100M users. It was just introduced in November.

Rumors about Chat GPT 5 is being trained right now. Will be in beta by end of year and released next year??? Instead of 2000 char inputs, you could hand it the entire book of 'Dune' in one go. Outputs will obviously be text, speech, image video and possibly touch (physical robotics).

The question is what is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). How quickly will it be equal to a human in that manner? Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned it couldn't create, just regurgitate what was already there. What exactly is creating? How many times have we as humans actually created something from nothing? New ideas build on previous ideas (same for arts, science, technology).

AI has the ability to self-generate code. It's really in its infancy here and needs human prompting, but it's growing exponentially on a week-by-week basis.

Jarvis from Ironman is just around the corner and it's not science fiction. Vision really isn't that far either (outside of flying and going through walls. Told my kids I've never seen anything like it and it's going to change everything in the next 3-5 years. With one in college, one in high school and one in middle school - their careers will now be totally different.




The problem is always going to be who is controlling it / restricting it's outputs?

People will use this for everyday information gathering and then try to use that as a bludgeon towards free thinkers. "We'll ChatGPT says this so it must be true" not realizing it's been curated to give specific outputs or at least omit inputs ...

Just like kids in public school are being indoctrinated - this will be used to indoctrinate the entire globe.
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GeorgiAg said:

PA24 said:

I need one in my shop.
You need a sexbot in your shop?

Me too. Wife won't let me bring them in the house.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

dude95 said:

Chat GPT is fastest app (or anything else) to 100M users. It was just introduced in November.

Rumors about Chat GPT 5 is being trained right now. Will be in beta by end of year and released next year??? Instead of 2000 char inputs, you could hand it the entire book of 'Dune' in one go. Outputs will obviously be text, speech, image video and possibly touch (physical robotics).

The question is what is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). How quickly will it be equal to a human in that manner? Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned it couldn't create, just regurgitate what was already there. What exactly is creating? How many times have we as humans actually created something from nothing? New ideas build on previous ideas (same for arts, science, technology).

AI has the ability to self-generate code. It's really in its infancy here and needs human prompting, but it's growing exponentially on a week-by-week basis.

Jarvis from Ironman is just around the corner and it's not science fiction. Vision really isn't that far either (outside of flying and going through walls. Told my kids I've never seen anything like it and it's going to change everything in the next 3-5 years. With one in college, one in high school and one in middle school - their careers will now be totally different.




The problem is always going to be who is controlling it / restricting it's outputs?

People will use this for everyday information gathering and then try to use that as a bludgeon towards free thinkers. "We'll ChatGPT says this so it must be true" not realizing it's been curated to give specific outputs or at least omit inputs ...

Just like kids in public school are being indoctrinated - this will be used to indoctrinate the entire globe.
If there are gatekeepers for the outputs, or the inputs for that matter, it seizes to be AI - at least as I understand it.

Search engines lost objectivity when they monetized. And that's fine. Capitalism and all that.

This is an entirely different thing. There are certainly inherit dangers with something like this, but I'm not sure why the knee-jerk conservative reaction is that it will be a liberal mouthpiece. If it's truly AI, it won't have a baked-in agenda.

Even if that were to happen, and it was some sort of Trojan horse of liberal indoctrination masked as AI, what's to stop conservatives from designing their own?

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TxAgswin said:

SpreadsheetAg said:

dude95 said:

Chat GPT is fastest app (or anything else) to 100M users. It was just introduced in November.

Rumors about Chat GPT 5 is being trained right now. Will be in beta by end of year and released next year??? Instead of 2000 char inputs, you could hand it the entire book of 'Dune' in one go. Outputs will obviously be text, speech, image video and possibly touch (physical robotics).

The question is what is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). How quickly will it be equal to a human in that manner? Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned it couldn't create, just regurgitate what was already there. What exactly is creating? How many times have we as humans actually created something from nothing? New ideas build on previous ideas (same for arts, science, technology).

AI has the ability to self-generate code. It's really in its infancy here and needs human prompting, but it's growing exponentially on a week-by-week basis.

Jarvis from Ironman is just around the corner and it's not science fiction. Vision really isn't that far either (outside of flying and going through walls. Told my kids I've never seen anything like it and it's going to change everything in the next 3-5 years. With one in college, one in high school and one in middle school - their careers will now be totally different.




The problem is always going to be who is controlling it / restricting it's outputs?

People will use this for everyday information gathering and then try to use that as a bludgeon towards free thinkers. "We'll ChatGPT says this so it must be true" not realizing it's been curated to give specific outputs or at least omit inputs ...

Just like kids in public school are being indoctrinated - this will be used to indoctrinate the entire globe.
If there are gatekeepers for the outputs, or the inputs for that matter, it seizes to be AI - at least as I understand it.

Search engines lost objectivity when they monetized. And that's fine. Capitalism and all that.

This is an entirely different thing. There are certainly inherit dangers with something like this, but I'm not sure why the knee-jerk conservative reaction is that it will be a liberal mouthpiece. If it's truly AI, it won't have a baked-in agenda.

Even if that were to happen, and it was some sort of Trojan horse of liberal indoctrination masked as AI, what's to stop conservatives from designing their own?




I thought we'd already established it definitely already had omitted inputs and banned outputs... things it can't discuss and sources it won't use.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

dude95 said:

Chat GPT is fastest app (or anything else) to 100M users. It was just introduced in November.

Rumors about Chat GPT 5 is being trained right now. Will be in beta by end of year and released next year??? Instead of 2000 char inputs, you could hand it the entire book of 'Dune' in one go. Outputs will obviously be text, speech, image video and possibly touch (physical robotics).

The question is what is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). How quickly will it be equal to a human in that manner? Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned it couldn't create, just regurgitate what was already there. What exactly is creating? How many times have we as humans actually created something from nothing? New ideas build on previous ideas (same for arts, science, technology).

AI has the ability to self-generate code. It's really in its infancy here and needs human prompting, but it's growing exponentially on a week-by-week basis.

Jarvis from Ironman is just around the corner and it's not science fiction. Vision really isn't that far either (outside of flying and going through walls. Told my kids I've never seen anything like it and it's going to change everything in the next 3-5 years. With one in college, one in high school and one in middle school - their careers will now be totally different.




The problem is always going to be who is controlling it / restricting it's outputs?

People will use this for everyday information gathering and then try to use that as a bludgeon towards free thinkers. "We'll ChatGPT says this so it must be true" not realizing it's been curated to give specific outputs or at least omit inputs ...

Just like kids in public school are being indoctrinated - this will be used to indoctrinate the entire globe.


The answer to life, the universe. Everything, is 42... but whats the question?
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The Green Dragon said:

It had the legal reasoning right, but the case cited were nonsense. Whatever the current version on openAi for free is what I used.


If you want to give me the prompt you tried I can see what gpt4 says about it so you know if it's worth upgrading to.
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I thought we'd already established it definitely already had omitted inputs and banned outputs... things it can't discuss and sources it won't use.
Did F16 establish that, or is it actually established? Big difference.

I'm asking, not arguing.

Don't want to get into a fight with you, Spreadsheet. You're one of my favorite posters in the Zoo.
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Trek Strategy said:

I'm a small business and I'm already thinking about how I use AI. If I don't, my competitors will and they will win the cost war. I used ChatGPT yesterday to write a contract clause. Saved me $400.
If the clause turns out to be poorly done and you suffer financially as a result, are you able to recover damages from ChatGPT?
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Bottom right for me.

AI is an incredibly powerful tool, but it will never achieve consciousness similar or comparable to a living thing.

Its calculation capacity is FAR greater, and unimaginable, however. So the issue is what unpredictable, dangerous conscious humans use it for.
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Im on the 5th uhhh quadrant: consciousness is the basis of all creation and it's not something we can simulate.
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I'm with the computational theory of mind/humans don't have free will area. Without computational theory of mind AI is impossible and everyone's concerns here are moot. Yet here we are.
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It makes a lot of mistakes and can't explain where it got the data.
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The Green Dragon said:

Im on the 5th uhhh quadrant: consciousness is the basis of all creation and it's not something we can simulate.


How could consciousness be the basis of creation?
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TxAgswin said:

The Green Dragon said:

Im on the 5th uhhh quadrant: consciousness is the basis of all creation and it's not something we can simulate.


How could consciousness be the basis of creation?


I think that consciousness is what brings it all together. What makes things vibrate and form other things? It had to start somewhere, and while the Big Bang makes sense to a degree, it's pretty worthless when you ask "what caused the beginning of the big bang, or what created the matter that exploded out?"

Something put that stuff together. I believe that consciousness not only puts things together, it remains in the things. A rock only has less consciousness than a human.

Essentially, I'm the universe manifesting itself as me. Who knows.

Call it consciousness or God or whatever.
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This looks awesome
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Not chatgpt, but this is a movie I'd watch

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That looks like an actual nightmare
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Adverse Event said:

Not chatgpt, but this is a movie I'd watch


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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Give me one reason leftist-oriented, but hyper advanced future AI would want or need to keep humans around? . . .
To make America great again?
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Adverse Event said:

Not chatgpt, but this is a movie I'd watch




Thank god for this post. Helped me through a painful poop.
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AbC news got boomer on Sunday morning show struggling to talk about how 'US yet to regulate AI technologies.'

 
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