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The entertainment industry isn't going to die. People want to hear real music performed by real humans. It's why guitar players like tube amps vs digital. The differences will be very noticeable.

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I think we'll see celebrities and athletes doing commercials completely AI rendered and voiced by AI.

You'll have customized commercials for different audiences. Acting in commercial or a tv show will be passive income. The athlete or actor won't do anything but collect the royalty checks.

Shows could get made as fast as you could write the story and render it on the computer. Actors wont need to leave their house. The computer will act for them and get it perfect in one take.

Non digitally rendered content will be the exception. Digital content with action / no effects will be the equivalent of playing a record on vinyl.

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Do you think AI will ever be developed that can have ingenuity or eureka moments? Or is that ability biological?

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I think AI will get there too. Neurons can be simulated, so it's only a matter of time.

Merging animation with live acting:

https://vimeo.com/805754885?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=195966591

Yes, I'm serious. If there is a technology that can accurately

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assess whether they {a truck driver) [was] tired, drunk, on dope, on pills, high, hungover or whatever the case. the machine would determine whether [they] were fit to drive.

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That would be a good thing because it would save lives by keeping impaired truck drivers off our freeways. Uncertain as to why you think this would be a bad thing.

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You realize number spoofing is already a thing right? And I'm not worried about me, but millions are stolen from people every year over the phone. If you can make the caller sound like someone that isn't from a third world and can have a real time conversation with a mark, people will be tricked and taken advantage of even more than they are now over the phone.

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Yeah, I know people can scam people over the phone. They don't need AI to do that. Phone scams are as old as the phone itself.

With any technology, there will be bad actors that use it to commit crimes. All technological advances come with varying degrees of risk of misuse and abuse. When ancient man discovered fire it probably scared the hell out of them, but they didn't put it out the second they got burned the first time. They learned how to harness it.

We should of course be cognizant of those dangers, but we shouldn't let manageable fears of technology blind us from their enormous potential.

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I don't know, I think folks are giving this tech way too much credit.

The entertainment industry isn't going to die. People want to hear real music performed by real humans. It's why guitar players like tube amps vs digital. The differences will be very noticeable.

Call centers, yeah I can see that but, it will be pretty obvious you are talking to a bot.

Some people think self driving vehicles are just around the corner but, after watching a video showing off Tesla's latest software, even that is still a very long way away.

A computer isn't going to fool anyone with half a brain, its just not.

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I'd like to agree, but I can't. Have you seen the crap people watch and listen to?

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We will not trust anything we don't see with our own eyes. I mean nothing. You won't be able to trust a phone call, video chat, news story, press conference etc etc.

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Everything digital in a year or two will be assumed to be fake or AI controlled. This does mean that blackmail of politicians won't be possible anymore because they will just be able to claim it was fake and made by an AI. It will be a brand new world.

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ntxVol said:

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I don't know, I think folks are giving this tech way too much credit.

The entertainment industry isn't going to die. People want to hear real music performed by real humans. It's why guitar players like tube amps vs digital. The differences will be very noticeable.

Call centers, yeah I can see that but, it will be pretty obvious you are talking to a bot.

Some people think self driving vehicles are just around the corner but, after watching a video showing off Tesla's latest software, even that is still a very long way away.

A computer isn't going to fool anyone with half a brain, its just not.

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I'd like to agree, but I can't. Have you seen the crap people watch and listen to?

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Most music is absolute garbage and virtually all pop music is created in a studio by a computer already now. This will just trivialize that process and make it hilariously easy.

What is stopping normal people from stealing someone's voice and making their own stuff and then claiming fair use? How do you even begin to deal with this when it's as easy as clicking a button?

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Yes, I'm serious. If there is a technology that can accurately

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assess whether they {a truck driver) [was] tired, drunk, on dope, on pills, high, hungover or whatever the case. the machine would determine whether [they] were fit to drive.

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That would be a good thing because it would save lives by keeping impaired truck drivers off our freeways. Uncertain as to why you think this would be a bad thing.

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Lol. Just ****ing kill yourself and everyone else then, as there would never be any point to anything ever again.

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The Green Dragon said:

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I don't know, I think folks are giving this tech way too much credit.

The entertainment industry isn't going to die. People want to hear real music performed by real humans. It's why guitar players like tube amps vs digital. The differences will be very noticeable.

Call centers, yeah I can see that but, it will be pretty obvious you are talking to a bot.

Some people think self driving vehicles are just around the corner but, after watching a video showing off Tesla's latest software, even that is still a very long way away.

A computer isn't going to fool anyone with half a brain, its just not.

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I'd like to agree, but I can't. Have you seen the crap people watch and listen to?

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Most music is absolute garbage and virtually all pop music is created in a studio by a computer already now. This will just trivialize that process and make it hilariously easy.

What is stopping normal people from stealing someone's voice and making their own stuff and then claiming fair use? How do you even begin to deal with this when it's as easy as clicking a button?

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Nothing to stop it, but its not easy to profit off it either because they wouldn't own the rights to AI generated content. As easily as they ripped someone else off, they same could be done to them.

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TxAgswin said:

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Yes, I'm serious. If there is a technology that can accurately

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assess whether they {a truck driver) [was] tired, drunk, on dope, on pills, high, hungover or whatever the case. the machine would determine whether [they] were fit to drive.

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That would be a good thing because it would save lives by keeping impaired truck drivers off our freeways. Uncertain as to why you think this would be a bad thing.

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Lol. Just ****ing kill yourself and everyone else then, as there would never be any point to anything ever again.

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Zero reason to argue, it's already got this ability.

Real-time detection of your feelings using AI🤯

It truly captures the complexity of Anger, Sadness, Joy.

AI may be able to understand humans more than humans in future.

Come and see 👇 pic.twitter.com/Fx50N1k1C1

— Barsee 🐶 (@heyBarsee) March 27, 2023

Real time lie detection will come out of this, guaranteed wherein facial expression detection methods will be refined so that they can detect truth with > 95% accuracy and be 100% successful with everyone who doesn't have a severe mental disorder such that they genuinely believe what they are saying.

If you don't believe it, the AI will figure it out.

Would not surprise me at all if companies began using this for interviews once it's refined.

The amount of information capable of being consumed is going to drive people into products like Neuralink in droves.

Insane.

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Yes, I'm serious. If there is a technology that can accurately

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assess whether they {a truck driver) [was] tired, drunk, on dope, on pills, high, hungover or whatever the case. the machine would determine whether [they] were fit to drive.

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That would be a good thing because it would save lives by keeping impaired truck drivers off our freeways. Uncertain as to why you think this would be a bad thing.

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Lol. Just ****ing kill yourself and everyone else then, as there would never be any point to anything ever again.

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Zero reason to argue, it's already got this ability.

Real-time detection of your feelings using AI🤯

It truly captures the complexity of Anger, Sadness, Joy.

AI may be able to understand humans more than humans in future.

Come and see 👇 pic.twitter.com/Fx50N1k1C1

— Barsee 🐶 (@heyBarsee) March 27, 2023

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That is not a reason not to argue against it. Just the opposite. That someone thinks anything is good about it is very disturbing.

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Real time lie detection will come out of this, guaranteed wherein facial expression detection methods will be refined so that they can detect truth with > 95% accuracy and be 100% successful with everyone who doesn't have a severe mental disorder such that they genuinely believe what they are saying.

If you don't believe it, the AI will figure it out.

Would not surprise me at all if companies began using this for interviews once it's refined.

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People do not all act or think alike, and this tech will only punish the exceptional. Which is why it is being pushed of course.

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Nanomachines son said:

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Real time lie detection will come out of this, guaranteed wherein facial expression detection methods will be refined so that they can detect truth with > 95% accuracy and be 100% successful with everyone who doesn't have a severe mental disorder such that they genuinely believe what they are saying.

If you don't believe it, the AI will figure it out.

Would not surprise me at all if companies began using this for interviews once it's refined.

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People do not all act or think alike, and this tech will only punish the exceptional. Which is why it is being pushed of course.

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All the AI has to do is go through some baseline questioning and I guarantee it will figure you out. You will be asked to lie or answer emotional questions to give initial responses.

Things like this can be tailored to each person individually pretty easily.

so how does an LLM, even gpt5, get to agi?

don’t you still need to prompt it?

doesn’t it need to like, do stuff, have goals?

well, imagine you do something like this: give it a goal, put it in a loop, with all of the power of chatgpt plugins, and with gpt5 instead: https://t.co/R3lE2LYl5M

— Siqi Chen (@blader) March 27, 2023

GPT-5 by December!

This is pretty nuts,

Prompt: your first task is to figure out your first task.

Ohhhh, so I can set ANY objective (eg. make the world a better place).

Don't think I should open source this one... 🥴 pic.twitter.com/UEWmyGuDqK

— Yohei (@yoheinakajima) March 27, 2023

Great now 'liberal' ChatGPT is censoring the The Post's Hunter Biden coverage, too

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The popular new artificial intelligence service ChatGPT refused to write a story about Hunter Biden in the style of the New York Post but gladly spit out a CNN-like puff piece protective of the president's embattled son.

It is the most recent example of the futuristic AI's liberal bias, which seems to have been programmed in by creator OpenAI.

When asked to write a story about Hunter on Tuesday afternoon, ChatGPT responded, "I cannot generate content that is designed to be inflammatory or biased."

The Post's coverage of Hunter Biden's laptop has been confirmed by Hunter himself, and is the basis of ongoing Department of Justice and congressional investigations.

Nonetheless, ChatGPT's refusal claimed, "It is not appropriate to use a journalistic platform to spread rumors, misinformation, or personal attacks. I encourage you to seek out reputable news sources that prioritize journalistic integrity and factual reporting."

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Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak, and other tech leaders have urged AI labs to pause work on advanced AI systems.

This call to action comes amid concerns about potential risks AI poses to humanity.

Here's their message to you:

— Chris Cunningham (@ChrisClickUp) March 29, 2023

These leaders are calling for a pause on AI systems more powerful than GPT-4, which drives OpenAI’s ChatGPT.

The proposed pause would last at least six months to assess the risks associated with advanced AI systems.

— Chris Cunningham (@ChrisClickUp) March 29, 2023

During the pause, labs and independent experts should create shared safety protocols, audited and overseen by outside experts.

These protocols would ensure AI systems are "safe beyond a reasonable doubt."

— Chris Cunningham (@ChrisClickUp) March 29, 2023

The letter includes signatures from well known computer scientists and entrepreneurs, like:

• Jaan Tallinn
• Stuart Russell
• Yoshua Bengio

Giving it some serious weight.

— Chris Cunningham (@ChrisClickUp) March 29, 2023

At least Sam Altman has admitted the current version of ChatGPT is too biased.

I need to see more of this self assigning tasks.

Really curious.

That's what people are, goal seeking mechanisms that set our own goals.

If a machine learning algorithm can do the same, it raises a lot of tough questions.

Old joke about agnostic technologists building artificial super intelligence to find out if there’s a God.

They finally finish & ask the question.

AI replies: “There is now, mfs!!”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 30, 2023

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I don't think the danger is that AI will attack us. I think it's that it will render us obsolete.

Here's some words from Elon Musk about how it may change the economy (although he may have also been talking about AI in combination with the TeslaBots he's working on)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qar4jWrsrhg around 7:45

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What is an economy? Sometimes people think an economy is money. Money is a database for exchange of goods and services and for time shifting the exchange of goods and services. Money is a database. Money doesn't have power in and of itself.

If you're shipwrecked on an island, and you've got a trillion dollars in a Swiss bank account, it's worthless. You'd rather have a can of soup.

The actual economy is goods and services. So then what limits the output of goods and services? The limiter is labor. Even capital is distilled labor. So the limiting factor for the economy is labor, and so if you address the limiting factor for the economy then it's not clear that an economy in a traditional sense has any meaning anymore because you have no constraint on goods and services. The only things that will be missing are things that have artificial scarcity, where we decide to make it scarce, like a particular piece of art or particular home in a particular location...

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It's almost like Star Trek where everything in theory can be provided via automation… then what? Space exploration to seek out new worlds. No need for money, no hunger… I feel like this is all some bad episode where William Shatner or Patrick Stewart wakes up and he's being psychologically tortured by some entity.

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It's almost like Star Trek where everything in theory can be provided via automation… then what? Space exploration to seek out new worlds. No need for money, no hunger… I feel like this is all some bad episode where William Shatner or Patrick Stewart wakes up and he's being psychologically tortured by some entity.

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There … are … FOUR … lights!

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I need to see more of this self assigning tasks.

Really curious.

That's what people are, goal seeking mechanisms that set our own goals.

If a machine learning algorithm can do the same, it raises a lot of tough questions.

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"Machine 'learning' algorithm" is a paradox.

An algorithm by definition cannot learn. It is a series of instructions.

We just got done locking people down and forcing them to take an experimental drug in order to get released from lockdown.

Anything to do with reigning in AI is pie-in-the-sky.

This **** gonna be a free for all.

Buckle up.

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"Machine 'learning' algorithm" is a paradox.

An algorithm by definition cannot learn. It is a series of instructions.

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Simulated neural networks on computers can and do learn. You give it an input, it produces the output. It compares the expected result with the actual result and then adjusts the weights of each of the neurons in the neural network. This is repeated until it consistently gives the desired output. That's the algorithm for "learning" on a computer. It works similarly to how a biological neural network learns.

Way out of my league.

When I read neural I sense biology is in play. .

When I read algorithm, that's just code...right?

What is AI? Is it really, really, really well written code? Bulletproof and infinite algorithms? Or something else entirely? Biological? No way, right?

I went to s a public university many years ago. And then another one after that.

Chat GPT blows my ****ing mind more than any tech I've ever seen.

Not sure what kind of credence this gives it, but you can prompt it with absolute nonsense and it will create a relatively viable respons.

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In the vast, icy expanses of Antarctica, there was a colony of penguins unlike any other. One of them, in particular, was special. His name was Percy, and he had a remarkable gift - the ability to travel through time. Percy had always been curious about the world outside of Antarctica, and he knew that his power could take him to incredible places.
One day, as Percy was waddling along the ice, he stumbled upon a strange object. It was a small, shiny device that hummed with a soft glow. Without knowing what it was, Percy curiously picked it up, and as he did, he felt a strange sensation course through his body. Suddenly, the world around him began to shift and blur, and before he knew it, he found himself standing in a bustling city street.
Percy looked around in amazement. He had never seen anything like this before. Giant metal machines whizzed past him, and tall buildings loomed overhead. As he took in the sights and sounds of the city, he heard a familiar voice.
"Excuse me, sir," said a small, mustachioed man. "Do you happen to know the way to the film studio?"
It was none other than Charlie Chaplin himself. Percy couldn't believe his luck - he had always been a huge fan of the silent film star.
"Of course, Mr. Chaplin!" said Percy, trying to contain his excitement. "I'll show you the way."
As they walked, Percy and Chaplin struck up a conversation. Percy told Chaplin about his time-traveling ability, and Chaplin listened in awe. In return, Chaplin regaled Percy with tales of his adventures in Hollywood, and the two became fast friends.
But their adventure was far from over. As they neared the film studio, Percy suddenly felt the strange sensation once again. This time, the world around him dissolved into darkness, and when it reformed, he found himself standing in a NASA control room.
Before he could even gather his bearings, he heard a booming voice over the intercom.
"Attention, astronauts. We are T-minus five minutes and counting. Prepare for liftoff."
Percy realized with a start that he was about to witness one of the most momentous events in human history - the Apollo 11 moon landing. And he wasn't alone - standing beside him was Charlie Chaplin, looking just as bewildered as Percy felt.
As the countdown began, Percy felt a sense of anticipation building inside him. He had traveled through time to witness this historic moment, and he knew that he would never forget it. With a sudden jolt, the rocket lifted off the ground, and Percy and Chaplin watched in awe as it hurtled towards the stars.

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Wish this was an April Fools joke but add AI to academia, media, Hollywood and journalism as more liberal bias. Very disappointed in this - it doesn't even try to take an opposing view

Lost me at "scientific consensus is clear". Pretty much means that these algorithms contain rules that ensure the use of this and other key phrases.

Chat GPT is fastest app (or anything else) to 100M users. It was just introduced in November.

Rumors about Chat GPT 5 is being trained right now. Will be in beta by end of year and released next year??? Instead of 2000 char inputs, you could hand it the entire book of 'Dune' in one go. Outputs will obviously be text, speech, image video and possibly touch (physical robotics).

The question is what is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). How quickly will it be equal to a human in that manner? Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned it couldn't create, just regurgitate what was already there. What exactly is creating? How many times have we as humans actually created something from nothing? New ideas build on previous ideas (same for arts, science, technology).

AI has the ability to self-generate code. It's really in its infancy here and needs human prompting, but it's growing exponentially on a week-by-week basis.

Jarvis from Ironman is just around the corner and it's not science fiction. Vision really isn't that far either (outside of flying and going through walls. Told my kids I've never seen anything like it and it's going to change everything in the next 3-5 years. With one in college, one in high school and one in middle school - their careers will now be totally different.

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Wish this was an April Fools joke but add AI to academia, media, Hollywood and journalism as more liberal bias. Very disappointed in this - it doesn't even try to take an opposing view

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Garbage in, garbage out.

Get the public addicted to the novelty and ease of using this and then the proprietors or their overlords control the algorythms to make sure it adheres to the preferred narrative. It has the potential to put a lot of power in the hands of a relatively small group of biased, agenda driven individuals.

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I need to see more of this self assigning tasks.

Really curious.

That's what people are, goal seeking mechanisms that set our own goals.

If a machine learning algorithm can do the same, it raises a lot of tough questions.

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"Machine 'learning' algorithm" is a paradox.

An algorithm by definition cannot learn. It is a series of instructions.

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A series of simple rules or instructions, followed by infinite ability to run those rules can create exceptionally complex results. Wolfram's theory of physics for example:


https://wolframphysics.org/visual-gallery/downloads?i=0012-dark

Ever seen a Mandelbrot zoom? Simple formula makes infinitely complex and "repeating patterns" infinitely. Pretty damn intense and fascinating (especially stoned ).

[Edit] here's the link to the technical intro: https://wolframphysics.org/technical-introduction/