The kidnapping in Mexico. WTBD?

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LMCane said:

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annie88 said:

I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, but how anybody could think that getting a surgery in Mexico is a good idea is beyond me. Truly, that is something that I would never even consider.
I personally know 3 Mexican American girls who got nose jobs in Mexico in the past year or two. Granted, they were done in Monterrey and San Miguel de Allende, which are much safer cities than Matamoros or any border town. The nose jobs were all done very well, with respected surgeons, and much cheaper than it would have cost in the US. There are some very good surgeons/doctors in Mexico and South America that a lot of Americans visit for their procedures.
they should go to Colombia for plastic surgery

it's heavily subsidized by the government
Its just as cheap in Mexico + its more expensive to travel to Colombia for most Texans.
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My mom's side of the family is from the valley. They're big farmers and have farm land literally touching the Rio Grande (not tourists). They're white but all speak fluent Spanish and we grew up crossing the border and going out to eat and shopping in Mexico. They will not cross anymore.
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YouBet said:


Mexico is a lot like South Africa. Sure, it's totally fine to go there until you get kidnapped, raped, or murdered and then it's not so fine. The crime rates in both are astronomical so why tempt fate when there are many other nice places to go.
People always act like there's no danger unless every single person who travels/lives somewhere is killed or robbed.

"Well, my uncle went there once and he's fine. What can go wrong?" Like they are in a Bad Idea jeans commercial. LOL


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Oh, ****ing hell. Grahmnesty has never met any war he didn't want to get involved with or started.
There are posters here that have been saying we should have invaded years ago.

I volunteer to guard a brewery o dos.
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"The White House is following closely..."

Translation:

The president will sniff a couple of preteens in their honor.
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I wish we would carpet bomb the **** out of these aholes (cartels)

The cartels have ruined south texas
Do right and bear the consequences. -Sam Houston
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I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.
I am white, cross everyday, and sometimes stay over night, into a town that is considered a lot hotter and rougher than Matamoros. It isn't a big thing, as the lookouts know me and know what I do. If someone looks out of place and or acts suspicious or, which is sad and terrifying, catches the eye of the wrong person something terrible like this can happen.

The crime groups run the border towns and are present through all walks of life and society.
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Eradicate these cartels with drone strikes.
RGV AG
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This will never be relayed in the media and it will be buried by agreement of the two governments. What happened to these people, whether they were going to buy drugs or go to a docs appointment, is that they were black and were driving through an area that had some conflict going on. There had been gun fights and dust ups in Matamoros the night before and earlier that morning.

All the Haitian's, Africans, Central American's and out of town Mexicans that are trying to enter the US either by asylum claim or crossing the river have to pay to stay in and or not disappear in Matamoros. There are a lot of Haitian's and other nationalities waiting there, as Browntown is one of the POE's that can do certain things. It is all jacked up and complicated now.

Some of the Haitians have signed on to work with the local bad guys, in varying capacities. But these illegals have rules, conditions, and areas that they have to abide by and be in. Straying and not obeying is risky.

On the day these North Carolinian's were attacked they were mistaken for Haitians possibly signed up with another faction as Haitians are not supposed to drive or be in that area. Especially when gun fights are going on. Thus some coked up dipsheet street guys with guns shot their ass and killed a couple. They take the bodies so as to not leave indication of who, what, or where (they could give a flip about evidence). They pulled these people out and then realized a grave mistake had happened and GTFO of there. They tried to help the ones that were alive, and appear to have done so with one. The others were DOA.

The guys that did the shooting are no longer in this world. Was a mistake due to them being black. From a pretty well connected friend of mine in Matamoros.

This will all get brushed under the rug due to the absolute dysfunction of the Biden government that has basically resurrected and breathed new life into the Mexican crime groups via the incentive for some many illegals to come to the states.
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Biden going to invade mexico because they killed some of our drug dealers? Must have been Hunters connection.
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Gen x hasn't done a damn thing except pat themselves on the back
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Appreciate this insite. It is a damn shame neither government can enforce the law.
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RGV AG said:

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I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.
I am white, cross everyday, and sometimes stay over night, into a town that is considered a lot hotter and rougher than Matamoros. It isn't a big thing, as the lookouts know me and know what I do. If someone looks out of place and or acts suspicious or, which is sad and terrifying, catches the eye of the wrong person something terrible like this can happen.

The crime groups run the border towns and are present through all walks of life and society.

Juarez I'm guessing? Regardless, this is kind of what I'm talking about...proves our point. This indicates that it is dangerous AF to the common whitey just trying to visit or pass through.

Mexico is a god awful neighbor, let's face it. I am totally on board with droning all of the major cartel bosses and their families...and then the next cockroaches to crop up here and there. No troops, no clean up. Drone drone drone. Make it such a terrifying line of work only a complete drooling drugged out idiot with zero business skills would be dumb enough to pursue it.

I know several people who have accidentally OD'd on fent. It's become a huge killer out of nowhere. I am sick of these sub-80-IQ santa muerte worshiping savages. A la verga putos, nosotros te vamos a matar, valle con diablo maricons.
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Interesting stuff.
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RGV AG said:

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I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.
I am white, cross everyday, and sometimes stay over night, into a town that is considered a lot hotter and rougher than Matamoros. It isn't a big thing, as the lookouts know me and know what I do. If someone looks out of place and or acts suspicious or, which is sad and terrifying, catches the eye of the wrong person something terrible like this can happen.

The crime groups run the border towns and are present through all walks of life and society.



As the poster above pointed, somewhat proves a point. As a white guy that has been to the Culiacan, Guadalajara and multiple parts of Colombia (not Columbia) multiple times, the best way to feel safe from the "bad guys" is to generally be known by the bad guys in a positive manner. Not necessarily one of them, but somehow known to them. Which is essentially what you said. And even then, if you aren't "one of them," you can get caught in a bad situation and there are no effs given by them. Of course, I'm more nervous going to NYC or NOLA than those places and there are bad parts of just about every city in the world. The problem with mexico is the crime has become more indiscriminate.
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so is the cartel going soft?

why did they let the other two live
RGV AG
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Juarez I'm guessing? Regardless, this is kind of what I'm talking about...proves our point. This indicates that it is dangerous AF to the common whitey just trying to visit or pass through.
Honestly, it is just truly is matter of luck, or lack thereof as if one looks plane Jane likely odds of anything happening are slim. I am not trying to be argumentative or combative, but my experience is that it is when one sees something or comes upon something that one shouldn't see that things go sideways. The crime groups don't target gringos as the grief factor isn't worth it.

I am across from Rio Grande City 100 miles up river from Matamoros. Where they burned up the 20 or so illegals from Guatemala a while back. Things have been exceedingly calm and peaceful for a while. The edict from the MexGov and the leaders is to keep stuff quiet and make hay while the sun shines.
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In all of this nary a word about 3 Hispanic/Mexican American women missing for over 10 days. They are gone and will never be heard from again. But there wasn't a video of it.

I think a 2 of them are Mex citizens as well, so not much caring there. That worthless, lying, scum of a Mexican president will never even acknowledge them.

https://www.krgv.com/news/fbi-notified-of-pe-itas-women-who-disappeared-after-traveling-to-mexico-police-chief-says/
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RGV AG said:

In all of this nary a word about 3 Hispanic/Mexican American women missing for over 10 days. They are gone and will never be heard from again. But there wasn't a video of it.

I think a 2 of them are Mex citizens as well, so not much caring there. That worthless, lying, scum of a Mexican president will never even acknowledge them.

https://www.krgv.com/news/fbi-notified-of-pe-itas-women-who-disappeared-after-traveling-to-mexico-police-chief-says/



Because we are pochos, my friend
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What the Mex press and the Mexican President is saying (from google translate as I am too lazy to do it):
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The Mexican president, Andrs Manuel Lpez Obrador, denounced the "hypocrisy" and "yellowism" of US politicians and media before the kidnapping of four Americans in the Mexican state of Tamaulipas, where they appeared on Tuesday, two of them dead.

"There are also partisan interests, I would say political ones, there are very hypocritical people who, for example, regret these events, use them for political purposes, traffic in human pain, with the pain of the people, but their purposes are for other purposes," he said. in his daily press conference.

His statements come after the governor of Tamaulipas, Amrico Villarreal, confirmed that the authorities found the four Americans kidnapped since last Friday in the border city of Matamoros, where two died and one more was injured, for which there is already a detainee.

The four Americans, who were traveling in a car with North Carolina license plates, were attacked by an armed group shortly after crossing into Mexico, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), which on Sunday offered $50,000 for help in locating them. .

Lpez Obrador regretted the events, but criticized that "it is very striking that these unfortunate events take place and all the media in the United States handle the information in a tabloid manner, but not when Mexicans are murdered in the United States, they are silent like mummies."

"Of course we regret what is happening in our country and this event in particular, and we offer our sincere condolences, but I can tell you that we dealt with a matter of two Oaxacan day laborers killed by farmers and one injured and nothing came out in the press. American, nothing," he said.

"They tear their clothes in a hypocritical way," he sentenced.

The president evaded answering directly if there are FBI agents working on the case in Tamaulipas, a state bordering Texas known for drug cartel disputes.

In addition, he questioned Republican politicians, such as William Barr, former attorney general (2019-2020) during the Presidency of Donald Trump, and who accused Lpez Obrador of protecting drug traffickers, and legislators who seek to declare Mexican cartels terrorists. .

"We are not allowing any foreign country to intervene on matters that only correspond to Mexicans, we do not get involved to see what the gangs in the United States that distribute fentanyl are doing, or how the drug is distributed in the United States?" , held.

"Enough of the hypocrisy and they are seeing nothing more than the straw in the other's eye and not the beam in their own," he settled.

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He is a piece of caca
RGV AG
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Burdizzo said:

He is a piece of caca
That is putting it nicely....
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"they are silent like mummies."
LOL Who the fk says that?
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RGV AG said:

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I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.
I am white, cross everyday, and sometimes stay over night, into a town that is considered a lot hotter and rougher than Matamoros. It isn't a big thing, as the lookouts know me and know what I do. If someone looks out of place and or acts suspicious or, which is sad and terrifying, catches the eye of the wrong person something terrible like this can happen.

The crime groups run the border towns and are present through all walks of life and society.

There are thousands of American and Canadian retirees/snowbirds who travel to San Miguel de Allende and Chapala, Jalisco and make that round trip yearly with no issues. Don't drive at night and stay on the autopistas whenever possible.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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Ciudad Juarez Mexico is a fun place to visit.

$24 dollars a night for this gem.




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Psycho Bunny said:

Ciudad Juarez Mexico is a fun place to visit.

$24 dollars a night for this gem.




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I prefer Amsterdam

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TxTarpon said:

DallasAg 94 said:

Pluralizes Everythings said:

Maybe don't go to Mexico in years where border crossings and cartel activity are reported to be a real concern.
Or just don't go, period.

College buddy of mine:

Mark Kilroy
OMG dude!
I didn't know that.
That was such a tragedy back then.
His murder changed how people behaved for a decade.
So freaking sad and scary.
Apparently Sara Aldrete is still alive in a Mexican prison.




I was about 10 when that happened but I remember seeing it on the news. Haunted me back then and still does to some degree. So awful.
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The Fall Guy said:

Don't care who it is. They killed Americans, and they will kill more if able. Eradicate the while bunch.
If we can drop a bomb down al-Baghdadi's shorts, we can take out cartel leadership with swift precision, as well.
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I still enjoy crossing over at Progreso. Not sure this incident will change my attitude on it. RGV's interpretation of what happened seems right.

Last time we were at a shelter in Juarez, I could not believe the overwhelming number of Haitians.
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W said:

so is the cartel going soft?

why did they let the other two live
And with all of their body parts?
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SoccerAg said:

You go to progresso for medicine it's much safer everyone knows this ..

My guess these folks were there for drugs


I have always stayed away from Matamoros due to the college kid from Texas that was killed there one year over spring break by a satanic cult. It was all over the news here in Texas. But, I wonder if people from states like South Carolina/North Carolina would be aware of which border towns are safer than other border towns? First thing I thought when I heard about the story was WTH would anyone travel to Matamoros for a medical procedure. There are several other border towns I'd hit first.
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murphyag said:

SoccerAg said:

You go to progresso for medicine it's much safer everyone knows this ..

My guess these folks were there for drugs


I have always stayed away from Matamoros due to the college kid from Texas that was killed there one year over spring break by a satanic cult. It was all over the news here in Texas. But, I wonder if people from states like South Carolina/North Carolina would be aware of which border towns are safer than other border towns? First thing I thought when I heard about the story was WTH would anyone travel to Matamoros for a medical procedure. There are several other border towns I'd hit first.


If you don't think they were there for drugs, then you're naive
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Grew up in Dickinson around time Mark Kilroy was murdered (I am several years younger) and agree the fear was instilled in you.

But young, dumb adults will be young and done. Bolstered by going on a mission trip in 1994 where we stayed in Nuevo Laredo but went across daily to a church, I determined it was not so bad, So in Spring and then Fall 1996 I made a couple of runs to the pharmacia as it was still legal to bring across but once you were outside border control you better have a legal US script.

Man we were dumb. Walked down side streets and into backrooms of the pharmacy to see the doctor. And of course we told no one where we had gone.

Walked across border in Tijuana in 1999 and took a cab to a strip club where we walked through no metal detector but the locals had to go through and put their guns in a tray to collect on exit.

Point being, people do stupid, reckless ***** And when you do those things sometimes you are lucky and sometimes you find out just how dumb you are.
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Lake08 said:

murphyag said:

SoccerAg said:

You go to progresso for medicine it's much safer everyone knows this ..

My guess these folks were there for drugs


I have always stayed away from Matamoros due to the college kid from Texas that was killed there one year over spring break by a satanic cult. It was all over the news here in Texas. But, I wonder if people from states like South Carolina/North Carolina would be aware of which border towns are safer than other border towns? First thing I thought when I heard about the story was WTH would anyone travel to Matamoros for a medical procedure. There are several other border towns I'd hit first.


If you don't think they were there for drugs, then you're naive
read on another site that all four had lengthy legal records. The chick had her young kids taken from her because they all tested positive for drugs at one point.
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