Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)

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I suppose "Al Qaeda meets with nazi leaders" as a headline wouldn't quite work.


Biden(*) just put out a statement that 'he' is sending another couple billion to Kiev. Lavrov was right:


Another F-16 was shot down this weekend, Putin co-piloted a newly built supersonic bomber, and the Saudi's signed on for 100 stealth fighters from Turkey.
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Ukraine has functionally ceased to exist:
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In an interview with Novyni Live on Monday, Vladimir Shylov, former commander of the 3rd Company in the 134th Separate Territorial Defense Battalion, lashed out at Ukraine's political leadership, stating that the country has "ceased to exist" as a functional state due to widespread graft and mismanagement.

Shylov expressed concern that these woes could allow Russian forces to increase their gains, warning that they may be able to overrun frontline positions in Donbass and reach as far as the Dnieper River. The advances could be facilitated by internal chaos, he added, stating "In our country, everything is a mess...the front is holding only thanks to the Ukrainian people."

Ukrainian leaders have transformed the nation into a "concentration camp," Shylov claimed, highlighting systemic failures across all branches of government, including the legislative, executive, and judicial sectors.


'All time champ.'

As well, a bunch of drone strikes on Sevastopol, mostly shot down.
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Zelensky comments on desertions:
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During a televised interview on Ukraine's Telemarathon on Thursday, Zelensky acknowledged the issue, claiming that while desertion increased significantly last year, the trend has slowed since its peak in autumn.

"AWOL cases increased in 2024, but since September or October it has decreased," he said. "A long war is a long war. Our people are persevering, and people are getting tired. They are getting tired everywhere."
Zelensky also noted that the lack of reinforcements was a key factor. "There are not many reserves. Why? Because not everything arrived to supply the reserves," he explained.

The Financial Times recently reported that one major cause of the high desertion rates in the army was the lack of rotation, leaving some soldiers viewing desertion as their only option for relief.
He also listed absurd demands for elections post-war:
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Martial law will be lifted only if it is possible to end the hot phase of the war in a strong position for Ukraine with an army, a package of weapons and security guarantees.

Only after the above conditions are achieved, the parliament will deign to begin determining the date of the elections and, based on this, Ukrainians will receive their long-awaited elections, in which Zelensky may also be present.
Can't have elections until war is over, and he is given more money/guns. Oh, and note no indication of freedom of the press/speech being reinstated, ever. An accurate thread about the Kiev regime:

I guess from later in this interview:

A return to (more) Russian gas for Germany is in view:


Forever war, comrades.
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Ukrainian migrants:

UFA launched something of an 'offensive' up in Kursk. I saw video (simplicius' X channel) of somehow an actual tank engagement (something like 10 total tanks, UFA lost). Also, 5 ATACMS shot down:
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Ukrainian forces have carried out a new long-range attack on Belgorod Region using eight US-made ATACMS ballistic missiles, all of which were shot down, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Friday.
The incoming munitions were repelled by Russia's S-400 and Pantsir-SM air defense systems, the military said. The ministry did not provide any information about the exact target of the attack or about any damage or casualties that may have been inflicted.
"The actions of the Kiev regime, supported by its Western handlers, will elicit retaliatory measures," the military stressed.

Germans claim Putin and Trump will meet in March. Surprised it would wait that long, if true.


Policy failures almost invariably derive from having the 'wrong' people in charge, whether here, Europe, or anywhere else.

A Russian view of the war, year in review.
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Major Russian victory in Ukraine:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-achieves-major-battlefield-breakthrough-eastern-ukraine-2-weeks-trump

Backed up by other regional sources from the AP:

"However, there is some independent confirmation of the Russian breakthrough via Associated Press and other regional sources:
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According to Meduza's military analysts, Russian forces reached the center of Kurakhove in mid-December, encircling nearly the entire city from the north, east, and south, and raising the Russian flag over the municipal government headquarters. At the time, however, Ukrainian forces still controlled the power station's industrial zone and the pipe plant on the western side of the city. Ukrainian troops were forced out of the industrial zone just before New Year's day and are now holding positions in Dachne, a village on Kurakhove's outskirts, Meduza's analysts say.
DeepState, an OSINT project with close ties to the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, also shows that Russian forces have seized Kurakhove. This comes after Ukrainian analysts reported that Russian troops were advancing in the area on January 5.

"only one thing is important!"
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Yeah and apparently they tried some cluster ATACM strikes at Belgorod last night. UFA doesn't have any real good news right now for their social media team.


On the real fronts the Russians continue to accelerate:


Sitrep: Anti-globalist maelstrom.

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It simply cannot be swept under the rug or sugar-coated any longer: the Western order is in literal crisis. The people have had enough, and the avalanche is picking up inertia because the process is a self-reinforcing feedback loop: the more wanton elites fall, the more that citizens are energized to rise up against them. And when that happens, the elites are forced to clamp and double down on their lies, hypocrisy, and repressions in a futile attempt to stem the flow; this leads to even more ill-will, resentment, and revolt against their destructive policies.

Alex Krainer picks up on this today with the news that Croatia too is fortifying itself in the resistance sphere, with globalist candidate Dragan Primorac losing to the incumbent he accused of being 'immoderate' and 'politically incorrect'code words for not toeing the establishment line:
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On Sunday, 29 December 2024, Croatia held presidential elections. The incumbent President Zoran Milanovi won the first round in a landslide against the pro-globalist challenger Dragan Primorac. Primorac was strongly backed by the ruling party, the Croatian Democratic Union, led by the Prime Minister Andrej Plenkovi who has been a loyal supporter of NATO, US, UK and EU policies. In winning the Presidency, the ruling party would have captured all of Croatia's key institutions of government.

It is clearly not just the war-party Democrat here that got crushed by the will of the people. Our role in bloody regime change operations including Ukraine, Syria, Libya, and elsewhere (as with 'Timber Sycamore'), needs to just end. 'Respect sovereign people/governments,' we hear from some quarters, ironically always in favor of more war. I'd add Romania and perhaps even AfD in Germany to this list of anti-war anti-globalists next to Ukraine shortly;
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Far-right leader Herbert Kickl could be Austria's next chancellor, as coalition talks between the conservatives and centre-left collapsed last weekend. Kickl's FPÖ won the latest elections, and is one of Europe's up-and-coming far-right parties
Two "right-wing" resistance sphere, Putin apologists with Orban in Hungary and Kickl in Austria, you say? It's no wonder they're terrified, as articles like this one from last year attest:
More at the link. Meanwhile, we have the execrable 'NAFO fella's' on X celebrating footage of an APC running over exhausted soldiers this week (committing obvious war crimes). They appear to be Ukrainian rear guard/blocking forces, but it really is sad.

Good talk, long though (I have not finished).
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Pickett led a substantial charge (right up the middle, not some periphery) though, LOL. The new narrative appears to be 'losing the war would be preferable to a Trump peace.' Proxy war cheerleaders never change.


Romanians are upset about their elections being nullified, new ones still not confirmed for a date, might not happen until May now (due to anti-war candidate winning initially). Meanwhile, more energy price spikes coming thanks to Saint Zelensky, as Fico prepares to cut electricity in retaliation to Kiev (Poles promise to make up some of it):
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Biden has sanctioned the office of the Hungarian PM, and Trump has stated yesterday his sympathies to Putin's position regarding Ukraine/Nato:
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President-elect Donald Trump said on Tuesday he sympathized with the Russian position that Ukraine should not be part of NATO, and he lamented that he will not meet Russian President Vladimir Putin before his inauguration.

Speaking at a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida, Trump also blamed outgoing Democratic President Joe Biden for allegedly changing the U.S. position on NATO membership for Ukraine.

"A big part of the problem is, Russia - for many, many years, long before Putin - said, 'You could never have NATO involved with Ukraine.' Now, they've said that. That's been, like, written in stone," Trump said.
"And somewhere along the line Biden said, 'No. They should be able to join NATO.' Well, then Russia has somebody right on their doorstep, and I could understand their feelings about that."
Good to see.



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In retrospect, it looks like the most advantageous time for Ukraine to have made a deal to end the war was back in 2023 shortly after they took Kharkiv and Kherson.
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'They' weren't allowed to.

This is a proxy war where the CIA/US state department is/has been fully in charge. Keep in mind again that it has primarily benefited (a) Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs (Biden business partners), (b) China, and (c) weakened Europe (economically primarily). Everything else, such as the utter destruction of Ukrainian demographics are just details. The movement toward a complete censorship state in 'Ukraine' was needed to prevent a popular revolt against martial law and the continuation of the war.
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nortex97 said:

'They' weren't allowed to.

This is a proxy war where the CIA/US state department is/has been fully in charge. Keep in mind again that it has primarily benefited (a) Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs (Biden business partners), (b) China, and (c) weakened Europe (economically primarily). Everything else, such as the utter destruction of Ukrainian demographics are just details. The movement toward a complete censorship state in 'Ukraine' was needed to prevent a popular revolt against martial law and the continuation of the war.
Sadly, I can't disagree with any of this.

At this point, what do you see as the most realistic parameters for a negotiated end to the war?
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I'm really not sure, just rough ideas. Obviously Putin wants a neutral Ukraine, with a new government, and limited military (meaning a set date for elections and commitment not to be brought into Nato, and banning of nazi imagery/units). Likely a condition of no long-range weapons to Ukraine for at least 20+ years (a built up and modernized, not just with 40 years old F-16's, UFA would focus on defensive capabilities, and perhaps exclude ballistic weapons). The current borders/Dnieper make the most sense probably (Ukraine withdrawing from their pathetic Kursk salient though).

The incentive to end now instead of continuing a year+ thru Kiev/Odessa etc. would probably need to be primarily economic (for both sides). There is a lot of trade leverage there and Europe would benefit a lot too via cheaper energy with a resumption of 'normal' trade relations if not a path to 'most favored.' Keep in mind Crimea is primarily a tourist economy in the summer so the Russians want to see more Euro tourists moving forward again (and in their ski resorts etc in the winter). There is also the lever of a BRICS currency trade deal (de-dollarization will be a big priority for China/Russia/India/Saudi moving forward, thanks FJB).

Russia wants their seized assets back too, and all of this would cool off inflation/need to keep ramping up military spending in Russia. If Kiev realizes the ruling class grifting gravy train of 'aid' is over if they don't take the deal they won't balk. The Euro's also would like to return the Ukrainian refugees to get them off the welfare rolls too, as with the Syrian ones, so whether the 'patriotic' upstart parties win this spring further or not shouldn't really matter, it would be seen as a big win for them, even the snots in Brussels. Economic/social integration and prosperity are the best deterrents to military expansionism.

The other good news is Biden(*) won't be able to send 'everything' possible before Trump is sworn in, so the latter will have some leverage very quickly.
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1836er said:

In retrospect, it looks like the most advantageous time for Ukraine to have made a deal to end the war was back in 2023 shortly after they took Kharkiv and Kherson.


And this was well after the surrender, I mean deal that Russia pushed on Ukraine back in the spring of 2022 that they wisely rejected.
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Putin wants a weak puppet vassal state. And if he doesn't get it, he'll continue the invasion in 5 years. He already broke 1 treaty, treaties mean zilch when they can't be enforced.
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1836er said:

In retrospect, it looks like the most advantageous time for Ukraine to have made a deal to end the war was back in 2023 shortly after they took Kharkiv and Kherson.


Unfortunately Ukraine has slowly/steadily atrophied since then. Never was a stalemate.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

1836er said:

In retrospect, it looks like the most advantageous time for Ukraine to have made a deal to end the war was back in 2023 shortly after they took Kharkiv and Kherson.


Unfortunately Ukraine has slowly/steadily atrophied since then. Never was a stalemate.

When you look at the maps this simply isn't true. There's basically zero difference from Nov 2022 to Nov 2024.

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I'm talking about the difference between 2023 and now, which has been a slow and steady atrophy. HTH.
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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

1836er said:

In retrospect, it looks like the most advantageous time for Ukraine to have made a deal to end the war was back in 2023 shortly after they took Kharkiv and Kherson.


Unfortunately Ukraine has slowly/steadily atrophied since then. Never was a stalemate.

When you look at the maps this simply isn't true. There's basically zero difference from Nov 2022 to Nov 2024.




I didn't realize how pathetic Putin's military is, but seeing this really shows just how third world Putin's Russia really is.
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Thats the problem with the meat grinder strategy. Imagine losing 20% of your country and hundreds of thousands of souls to such an incompetent military. War sucks, overall.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

I'm talking about the difference between 2023 and now, which has been a slow and steady atrophy. HTH.

Based on those maps you'd have even less difference between 2023 and today.
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No Spin Ag said:

Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

1836er said:

In retrospect, it looks like the most advantageous time for Ukraine to have made a deal to end the war was back in 2023 shortly after they took Kharkiv and Kherson.


Unfortunately Ukraine has slowly/steadily atrophied since then. Never was a stalemate.

When you look at the maps this simply isn't true. There's basically zero difference from Nov 2022 to Nov 2024.




I didn't realize how pathetic Putin's military is, but seeing this really shows just how third world Putin's Russia really is.


This is why the zoomed in maps are used so heavily from some milbloggers. When you look at it on a macro level nothing has changed. No one is getting anywhere in this stalemate.
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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

I'm talking about the difference between 2023 and now, which has been a slow and steady atrophy. HTH.

Based on those maps you'd have even less difference between 2023 and today.


Your map skips over 2023. Regardless I still agree with the other poster that Ukraine should've negotiated then. They've slowly and steadily lost ground and human lives since then. (Atrophy)
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Skipping over 2023 is pointless since basically nothing has changed on the displayed map from Nov 2022 to Nov 2024. They would all look the same.
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Wait, what?


Ukrainian MP:

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Recall just a day ago in the new Lex Fridman interview Zelensky stated the AFU has 980,000 people. Yet Syrsky recently stated Russia has 700,000 men in Ukraine. At the same time, frontline Ukrainian officers constantly grouse Ukraine is outnumbered nearly "5 to 1" in many key areas.
What is going on here?
Goncharenko finally unbosoms this monumental fraud by suggesting these phantom troops are all dead.
From The Atlantic (leftist Democrat MSM narrative if ever a publication/outlet outside of CNN met such a standard): "Trump faces catastrophic defeat in Ukraine"
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The piece starts off as dire as can be, predicting the fall of Ukraine within twelve months:
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Vice-president Elect J. D. Vance once said that he doesn't care what happens to Ukraine. We will soon find out whether the American people share his indifference, because if there is not soon a large new infusion of aid from the United States, Ukraine will likely lose the war within the next 12 to 18 months. Ukraine will not lose in a nice, negotiated way, with vital territories sacrificed but an independent Ukraine kept alive, sovereign, and protected by Western security guarantees. It faces instead a complete defeat, a loss of sovereignty, and full Russian control.
Recall, months ago when the globalist shills gabbed about Ukraine "losing", they did so in a kind of winking way, still clutching the illusion Ukraine could keep most of its territorial integrity and sovereignty. But now the situation has turned truly catastrophic, read Kagan's last line again:
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It faces instead a complete defeat, a loss of sovereignty, and full Russian control.
That's itit's game over and the elites know it. Ukraine stands to catastrophically collapse with Russia not merely overrunning "the Donbass", but the entire BlackRock-owned mineral-rich 'El-Dorado'.
Sitrep:
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Morning Summary on January 7, 2025
In Kursk Region, for the second day in a row, the Russian Armed Forces have been holding back the enemy's offensive in the Sudzha - Bolshoye Soldatskoye direction. The enemy again threw infantry and armored vehicles into the attack, but did not succeed, losing a total of at least 35 pieces of equipment (including tanks) and more than 200 personnel in the attacks. During the day, 14 enemy personnel were captured in the area of the Berdin farmstead, and during interrogation they said that up to 50% of the enemy's infantry is from the special contingent (prisoners, including those forcibly mobilized). At the same time, the Russian Armed Forces, taking advantage of the enemy's distraction by these politically motivated actions, managed to enter Malaya Loknya on the northern flank and advance in Makhnovka a couple of kilometers from Sudzha. They also reported from the scene that the liberation of the village of Russkoye Porechnoye is being completed.
  • In Toretsk (Dzerzhynsk), battles are ongoing along Kharkivska, Homelska, Mariupolska, Dovzhenko, Myrhorodska streets and have shifted to the western and northern parts of the city, where the remaining AFU units are holding the defense. The enemy is using many drones to strike our advancing assault groups.
  • East of Pokrovsk (Krasnoarmiisk), Russian Armed Forces units are breaking through to the highway interchange north of Vozdvyzhenka, with fighting continuing in the neighboring Yelyzavetivka and Baranivka. The Russian forces are depriving Pokrovsk of logistics from the west: attacks are underway towards Kotlyne, Udachne, Novoserhiivka.
  • Kurakhove has been fully liberated since yesterday, reported the Russian Ministry of Defense. West of the city, a "pocket" is again emerging, causing panic among the enemy's resources. Fighting in this direction continues.

Anyway, more at the links (youtube updates here), as always. Forever war!
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The Russian troops in Ukraine are more likely to be combat arms than are those in the Ukrainian military. The number of Russians in Ukraine doesn't account for much of the air force or navy while it does for Ukraine.
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It's more or less an admission against interests, from a hardcore Ukrainian MP that makes the point interesting, imho.

Meat grinder front:

Not great:
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Plain on its face, it is highly concerning to see a non NATO member making plans for NATO troops to get involved in his land.
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Scholz blocking unpopular 1.2 billion euro "Ukraine aide" bill pending election face-off next month with AfD (Der Spiegel):
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According to the outlet, the German government is embroiled in a heated debate over the proposed aid. The package could reportedly include advanced anti-air weapons and artillery, and is seen by Baerbock and Pistorius as critical for Ukraine as it struggles to contain Russian advances on the battlefield.

The ministers are also said to be concerned about the uncertainty of continued US support for Kiev following the inauguration of US President-elect Donald Trump, a critic of Ukraine aid, who is set to be sworn into office on January 20.

Baerbock and Pistorius aim to fund the assistance plan by requesting unscheduled expenditure from the Bundestag's budget committee, a mechanism previously used for Ukraine aid, Spiegel reported.

Scholz is said to be opposed to the proposal for several reasons. According to the magazine, he does not want to "present the future federal government with a fait accompli" on Ukraine aid.
FT: Fear in EU Trump might cancel Russia sanctions:

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More on EU-US relations: Officials in Brussels are analysing hundreds of executive orders and sanctions imposed by US President Joe Biden amid growing concern that Trump will rescind them.

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Brussels is reportedly scrambling to analyze hundreds of sanctions and executive orders approved by Biden to assess which reversals could have the most significant impact on the bloc. Some officials also told the FT that Trump may even completely ignore EU interests when he reviews Biden's foreign policy decisions.

"The concern is he decides to reverse things just because Biden had done them," a source reportedly said. "We need to know how that could affect us."


Something tells me that Putin doesn't want to expeditiously speak with Trump to explain why the war must continue, but rather the opposite. May the end of the Biden proxy war come as soon as possible. I really don't care about the terms, let alone Zelensky's demands.
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Peepaw: sure, my gas sanctions might hurt Americans.
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US President Joe Biden has admitted that the latest package of American sanctions targeting Russia's oil industry could harm ordinary Americans, saying they may lead to a slight increase in gas prices.
On Friday, the US Treasury Department unveiled a "sweeping" round of sanctions on Russia, imposed in coordination with the UK.
The measures target two major oil producers, Gazprom Neft and Surgutneftegaz, as well as their subsidiaries and entities providing insurance and transportation services. Over 180 vessels allegedly used to transport Russian oil in defiance of Western restrictions, which the US has described as a 'shadow fleet', were also sanctioned.
Asked whether he is concerned that the sanctions could lead to gas prices going up, Biden said the possibility cannot be ruled out. "It is probable that gas prices could increase by as much as three or four cents a gallon, but the sanctions will have a more significant impact on Russia's ability to continue its actions in the conduct of war," he said.
The brilliant strategery of the proxy war is noted: 'Putin becomes leader of the global south.'

War fatigue at 'ramstein group' meeting in Poland:

A chronology of some prognostications in the 'press' about Russia's downfall;

Pretty comical thread from Ryan on Ukrainian defenses: I think he's a mercenary over there.
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Bulgarian nationalist eyes Odessa region post-war. If the Romanians are allowed to vote (and not have the vote cancelled afterward) in May this could be interesting if the war drags on into the summer. Notice the Revival Party is now the third largest in the country, and as with Georgia is pushing a 'foreign agent' law there. Our FARA law dates to the 1930's and isn't real controversial but for 'some' reason the State Department/CIA are ferociously opposed to other countries adopting such legislation.


Notice the Bulgarian parliament backed out of signing a bilateral deal with Ukraine after Trump was elected. Now, I really have tried to figure out the history and demographics of this region, but it is tough. Here is a fairly pro-Romanian take on the WW2 (and prior) tragic/anti-semitic/nazi/Soviet period:
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Let me be clear nobody in the Romanian government originally wanted to push past the boundaries of Bessarabia, as Odessa and the area towards the Bug River were not, and had never been, majority ethnic Romanian/Moldovan lands. What the Romanian government really wanted was Transylvania back. But, given the way the war went, Romania went ahead and took over Odessa (and the region) anyway, making Odessa the capital of Transnistria, which was ruled by a Romanian governor. It's true that Romania never formally annexed Transnistria, but it looks to me (and several prominent historians) like it would've eventually happened had not the vast majority of the Romanian Army been called up to invade the Soviet Union.
So, as I wrote in my piece Fury Unleashed, Romania ****ed up literally everything in World War 2. They lost Transylvania to their allies. The Romanian government hated Jews, tried to exterminate them, but then realized that their economy couldn't survive without them. The Romanian government was pro-Germany even though Germany mistreated Romania badly (causing widespread inflation and deficits due to the German policy of not paying for Romanian goods during the war). They were foolishly anti-Russian due to 20 years of stupidity and greed over wanting Bessarabia. And then Romanian troops got used as cannon fodder in the Battle of Stalingrad, losing more men than all of the other German allies combined.
And then the "savior" king Mihai ended up being a Soviet pawn until domestic Communists took over. Meanwhile even more Romanian troops died as the Soviets used them as cannon fodder to mop up resistance in Hungary and onwards westward to Germany. At the end of the war, Romania was devastated, the economy in ruins, hundreds of thousands of people killed for nothing, and (southern) Dobruja and Bessarabia were lost forever.
And, as a final insult, the Soviet Union also snatched away (southern) Bukovina, which had never been a Russian area of interest and was, on the contrary, a majority-Romanian area. It wasn't even mentioned in the original Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement. So why did the Soviets suddenly decide they wanted Cernauti halfway through the war?
The answer lies with a very cunning Communist leader in Ukraine, a man by the name of Nikita Kruschev. It was Kruschev who convinced Stalin that Cernauti had historically been part of Ukraine (not true). And it was in 1954, when Kruschev was the leader of the Soviet Union, that he transferred Crimea to Ukraine, a move that led to disastrous consequences in early 2014.
Today, Odessa remains a Jew-free barely Ukrainian city run by Georgian criminals with nary a Moldovan or Romanian in sight, but a beautiful town for tourists to visit

It's apparently mostly Romanian today (Bessarabian demographics), and around 107 years ago had united with Romania:

I post that just because I think in a post-war settlement, if Odessa were ceded to part of Romania or even Bulgaria, it would help assuage Russian concerns about future actions from the Ukrainian remnant out of Kiev. (Notice Medvedev has repeatedly termed Odessa a Russian city). I'd also think it would be preferable for actual Odessans, regardless of the current demographic breakdown, to be part of those two countries vs. Kiev or Moscow, plus it would cut off much of Kiev's ability to hold Europe hostage again from natural gas flows. Moldova of course is another option. Just stop these coups/pointless escalations toward a wider war:


I do.

To the last Ukrainian, forever war, comrades.
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Scholz is said to be opposed to the proposal for several reasons. According to the magazine, he does not want to "present the future federal government with a fait accompli" on Ukraine aid.

"The concern is he decides to reverse things just because Biden had done them," a source reportedly said. "We need to know how that could affect us."


If both these statements came from the same article, then the obtuseness is amazing to me.

On one hand, you have Scholz actually doing what a leader should be doing which is to not tie the hands of their successor on his way out the door on matters of such importance.

But then you have Brussels concerned that Trump will reverse what Biden does on his way out the door to his successor. How about Biden follow Scholz and not put Trump in a corner out of spite and pettiness.
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Yes. Scholz is feckless and facing a real political reckoning though. Nordstream and relations with Russia favored by German AfD party. The Biden-Soros war party has been making enemies throughout Europe, especially on the Eastern side.



Anti-war nationalist in Croatia wins overwhelming re-election:
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Incumbent Croatian President Zoran Milanovic, known for his critical stance on the EU and NATO and his opposition to Western aid to Ukraine, has secured a second term of office in a landslide victory.
Milanovic garnered 74.68% of the vote in Sunday's presidential runoff, decisively defeating his rival from the ruling Croatian Democratic Union (HDZ), Dragan Primorac, the country's State Election Commission said on Monday.
Approximately 45% of about 3.5 million registered voters participated in the election, the commission reported.
"It's a plebiscite message from the Croatian people to all those who ought to hear it, and I ask that they listen," Milanovic stated in his victory speech.
Milanovic has consistently criticized Zagreb's support for Ukraine, describing the conflict as a NATO proxy war against Russia. Last year, he exercised his presidential authority as head of the country's armed forces to block the deployment of five Croatian officers to the NATO mission in Germany.
Sitrep: "The fool's war…". Lloyd Austin citing the Ukraine was as a 'one of the greatest military success stories of our time' is really…something.
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This first statement gives one pause, and is cause for great wonder: Are US officials merely putting on, instructed by upper 'guidance' to characterize the war in such laudatory terms? Orand this is the more frightening possibilitydo they actually believe their flights of hyperbole?

Austin's statement is of course just part and parcel to a litany of similar decrees from top establishment figures, the John Kirbys and Blinkens, not to mention Biden himself. We've said long ago that as Ukraine nears defeat, and as the US scrapes the barrel for face-saving options, it will have no choice but to redraw the war as a 'victory' against a barbarous Putin intent on 'subjugating all of Europe'. But the conviction with which Austin presents his latest banality leaves us to assume he may be smelling his own flatulence vis-a-vis the great 'Ukrainian struggle'.

Forever war, comrades.
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So Nordstream could be auctioned off by the end of this month, pending a Swiss court decision?

The timing vis a vis German elections next month is interesting to say the least. However, I think that post is not correct, and they gave Norstream AG until May 9 to restructure.
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MOSCOW, Jan 9 (Reuters) - A court in Switzerland has extended the deadline for Nord Stream 2 AG, a unit of Russia's Gazprom to restructure its debts to May 9 from Jan. 10, according to a court ruling.

It also said that Swiss-registered Nord Stream 2 AG, the operator of the undersea gas pipeline that was never commissioned, had to pay off debts to small-scale creditors in full within 60 days of receipt of this decision.

Nord Stream 2 completed the $11 billion project in 2021 to pump gas from Russia to Germany. But Germany halted the plan as relations with Moscow broke down ahead of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, while the United States imposed sanctions.

In September 2022, one of the two lines of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was damaged by mysterious blasts, along with both lines of Nord Stream 1.
It's an $11 billion pipeline Zelensky-Biden blew up in a massive case of environmental sabotage. This is leverage in favor of Trump's push to negotiate an end to the conflict with Putin, imho (as Putin's pals own much of Gazprom and want it re-opened). Mark Rutte's candid admissions here are fascinating as well:

Very good (but long) thread analyzing the Pokrovsk to Pavlograd likely axis of advance for the Russians this year:

Politico ranks Putin the 2nd most powerful person in Europe.
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On both sides of the Atlantic, support for the war is waning, and the reelection of Donald Trump virtually guarantees that Kyiv will be prevented from achieving its ambitious goal of expelling all Russian forces and restoring its post-Soviet borders.
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ATACM and storm shadow attack of a chemical plant in Bryansk, looks like several got through. A lot to throw at a secondary/non-military target. Another terrorism attempt was thwarted though.


Ukrainians also posted a horrific video of their snipers killing civilians filmed thru infrared optics. I'll pass on posting that. If one wants to see it, @olgabazova has the links.

We have a separate thread about the Romanian coup, in the interests of NATO's objective of launching a new front in the Russia wars, but it should be noted here briefly I figure:


Bananocracia's reply is about right. But some people celebrate this war, as Lloyd Austin did this weekend, as 'one of our greatest achievement's.'
Lavrov: Russia is ready to discuss security guarantees for Kiev.
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Speaking at a press conference on Monday, Lavrov emphasized, however, that any talks must take place within a broader Eurasian framework in order to address larger geopolitical issues.

"We are ready to discuss security guarantees for the country that is now called Ukraine, and parts of that country which have not yet determined their status, unlike Crimea, Donbass, and Novorossiya [the union of the Donbass republics]," Lavrov stated during the briefing.

Lavrov reiterated that the Eurasian context would play a dominant role in these discussions. "The Western part of the continent will not be able to isolate itself from India, China, and Russia," he said.
The broader Eurasian framework will necessarily include trade/sanction agreements, and a status of forces limitation near Russia etc. Trump: going to meet with Putin 'very quickly.'
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"Security Guarentees" after Russia broke their own treaty to defend Ukraine. Those guarantees must be written on toilet paper.
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