It's a Mutually Assured Destruction situation at this point.

If the world dumps the dollar completely inflation will skyrocket here.

If the world dumps the dollar then the US withdraws military protection and Russia and China start to cherry pick which territories to annex and global trade is hampered because trading partners no longer have military protection in global shipping.

Russia and China are setting this up because they think at this point they are powerful enough to withstand the fallout- together and also because they are ready to make their global plays which will go against the US and its allies.

TBH The US created this mess via the last 30 years of boomer failed politiics and its getting time for the chickens to come home to roost.

People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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nortex97 said:

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Some excitement about JASSM as the newest wonder weapon is likely misplaced;

IMO Jassm is the worst thing you can fling at the bridge given lack of terminal sophisticated guidance. Storm Shadows could switch to scene matching AI, Jassm would be stuck with GPS only in a highly jammed environment. I don't think Jassms can hit the bridge, particularly not… https://t.co/R00UY0JCs0

— SIMPLICIUS Ѱ (@simpatico771) October 11, 2024

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The JASSM has IR for terminal homing.

And it's INS guided, not GPS guided. It gets GPS updates along the way, though. But, would probably be close enough for just the INS guidance by the time they could effectively jam the GPS.

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What are you? Some kind of engineer in the defense industry or something?

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Well, not in the defense industry. ANYMORE...

That was only the first 30 years of my career.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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These videos were a fan favorite at one point, but if they're truly mobilizing men out of the capital, that is a notable update

During a concert of the Ukrainian rock band Okean Elzy in Kiev, AFU mobilization officers and police pulled men from the hall to be sent to the front.

This is the army being sent to die in half constructed fortifications, I hope the people of Ukraine rise up and fight for… pic.twitter.com/sJv4H3R6re

— ayden (@squatsons) October 12, 2024

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Well, if "ayden" on X says so, we HAVE to believe that's what happened there...

No possible way it could have any other explanation. They picked a few guys out of the crowd of hundreds and decided those were the ones that were going to get conscripted...

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Do you have an alternative theory? I don't see one in the replies or elsewhere online. Teslag used to at least come up with a plausible alternative explanation…..

Can you?

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Sure.

Some drunk guys at a concert got arrested.

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I don't find this plausible. The uniforms are clearly not police. But you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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The uniforms are clearly not military.

But, you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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These videos were a fan favorite at one point, but if they're truly mobilizing men out of the capital, that is a notable update

During a concert of the Ukrainian rock band Okean Elzy in Kiev, AFU mobilization officers and police pulled men from the hall to be sent to the front.

This is the army being sent to die in half constructed fortifications, I hope the people of Ukraine rise up and fight for… pic.twitter.com/sJv4H3R6re

— ayden (@squatsons) October 12, 2024

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Well, if "ayden" on X says so, we HAVE to believe that's what happened there...

No possible way it could have any other explanation. They picked a few guys out of the crowd of hundreds and decided those were the ones that were going to get conscripted...

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Do you have an alternative theory? I don't see one in the replies or elsewhere online. Teslag used to at least come up with a plausible alternative explanation…..

Can you?

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Sure.

Some drunk guys at a concert got arrested.

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I don't find this plausible. The uniforms are clearly not police. But you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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The uniforms are clearly not military.

But, you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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Metropolitan police don't usually wear camo.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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These videos were a fan favorite at one point, but if they're truly mobilizing men out of the capital, that is a notable update

During a concert of the Ukrainian rock band Okean Elzy in Kiev, AFU mobilization officers and police pulled men from the hall to be sent to the front.

This is the army being sent to die in half constructed fortifications, I hope the people of Ukraine rise up and fight for… pic.twitter.com/sJv4H3R6re

— ayden (@squatsons) October 12, 2024

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Well, if "ayden" on X says so, we HAVE to believe that's what happened there...

No possible way it could have any other explanation. They picked a few guys out of the crowd of hundreds and decided those were the ones that were going to get conscripted...

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Do you have an alternative theory? I don't see one in the replies or elsewhere online. Teslag used to at least come up with a plausible alternative explanation…..

Can you?

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Sure.

Some drunk guys at a concert got arrested.

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I don't find this plausible. The uniforms are clearly not police. But you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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The uniforms are clearly not military.

But, you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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Metropolitan police don't usually wear camo.

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They do in some parts of the world

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It's a Mutually Assured Destruction situation at this point.

If the world dumps the dollar completely inflation will skyrocket here.

If the world dumps the dollar then the US withdraws military protection and Russia and China start to cherry pick which territories to annex and global trade is hampered because trading partners no longer have military protection in global shipping.

Russia and China are setting this up because they think at this point they are powerful enough to withstand the fallout- together and also because they are ready to make their global plays which will go against the US and its allies.

TBH The US created this mess via the last 30 years of boomer failed politiics and its getting time for the chickens to come home to roost.

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Shouldn't Russia finish annexing Ukraine before they start trying to take over other countries?

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Define win

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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If any are brave enough to answer you, they'll just change the definition of win, or go on some long tangent about how much Russia lost. I doubt you'll get a response from a Uke though, Ukraine has been getting steadily pushed back for what feels like several months now - and Kursk hasn't changed anything.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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These videos were a fan favorite at one point, but if they're truly mobilizing men out of the capital, that is a notable update

During a concert of the Ukrainian rock band Okean Elzy in Kiev, AFU mobilization officers and police pulled men from the hall to be sent to the front.

This is the army being sent to die in half constructed fortifications, I hope the people of Ukraine rise up and fight for… pic.twitter.com/sJv4H3R6re

— ayden (@squatsons) October 12, 2024

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Well, if "ayden" on X says so, we HAVE to believe that's what happened there...

No possible way it could have any other explanation. They picked a few guys out of the crowd of hundreds and decided those were the ones that were going to get conscripted...

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Do you have an alternative theory? I don't see one in the replies or elsewhere online. Teslag used to at least come up with a plausible alternative explanation…..

Can you?

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Sure.

Some drunk guys at a concert got arrested.

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I don't find this plausible. The uniforms are clearly not police. But you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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The uniforms are clearly not military.

But, you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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Metropolitan police don't usually wear camo.

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They do in some parts of the world

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Citation needed. Bonus points if you can find city cops in camo
handling public intox at a concert.

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Ukraine has been getting steadily pushed back for what feels like several months now

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In one tiny little area in one tiny part of that front. For a year now. That doesn't win wars. The Russians have spent a year and 600,000 lives to push 20 miles from Adviika.


And they are still hundreds of miles from Kiev.

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Define win

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Criss dresser said they wont stop until russia is completely kicked out

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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If any are brave enough to answer you, they'll just change the definition of win, or go on some long tangent about how much Russia lost. I doubt you'll get a response from a Uke though, Ukraine has been getting steadily pushed back for what feels like several months now - and Kursk hasn't changed anything.

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Tswizsle said:

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Teslag said:

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Define win

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Criss dresser said they wont stop until russia is completely kicked out

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Including retaking Crimea. Never gonna happen, Uke is getting its ass kicked.

Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Putin failed to take over the entire country. That was the goal when Putin invaded. Putin hasn't achieved his initial objective. Ergo, Putin failed.

But it's good to know there are American Putin sycophants who are gleeful to see a country that did nothing to provoke Putin's invasion suffer because of him.

Putin's American sycophants must be so proud. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they even had a Russian flag and a Putin picture in their home.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Ag with kids said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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These videos were a fan favorite at one point, but if they're truly mobilizing men out of the capital, that is a notable update

During a concert of the Ukrainian rock band Okean Elzy in Kiev, AFU mobilization officers and police pulled men from the hall to be sent to the front.

This is the army being sent to die in half constructed fortifications, I hope the people of Ukraine rise up and fight for… pic.twitter.com/sJv4H3R6re

— ayden (@squatsons) October 12, 2024

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Well, if "ayden" on X says so, we HAVE to believe that's what happened there...

No possible way it could have any other explanation. They picked a few guys out of the crowd of hundreds and decided those were the ones that were going to get conscripted...

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Do you have an alternative theory? I don't see one in the replies or elsewhere online. Teslag used to at least come up with a plausible alternative explanation…..

Can you?

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Sure.

Some drunk guys at a concert got arrested.

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I don't find this plausible. The uniforms are clearly not police. But you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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The uniforms are clearly not military.

But, you're entitled to believe what you wish.

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Metropolitan police don't usually wear camo.

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They do in some parts of the world

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Citation needed. Bonus points if you can find city cops in camo
handling public intox at a concert.

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Even some US police will wear camo at times.

Tswizsle said:

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Teslag said:

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Define win

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Criss dresser said they wont stop until russia is completely kicked out

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They will never retake Crimea. Russia will never take Kiev. So do they both lose?

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Putin failed to take over the entire country. That was the goal when Putin invaded. Putin hasn't achieved his initial objective. Ergo, Putin failed.

But it's good to know there are American Putin sycophants who are gleeful to see a country that did nothing to provoke Putin's invasion suffer because of him.

Putin's American sycophants must be so proud. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they even had a Russian flag and a Putin picture in their home.

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Only happening due to western aid so what happens when that dries up?


Also, why should we care about this obviously Russia isnt a threat to us this a regional conflict, no one cared when they took Crimera and parts of Georgia bot we are AmERican PSychonats

Lol

Western aid will never dry up as long as there's money to be made in the defense industry.

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Putin failed to take over the entire country. That was the goal when Putin invaded. Putin hasn't achieved his initial objective. Ergo, Putin failed.

But it's good to know there are American Putin sycophants who are gleeful to see a country that did nothing to provoke Putin's invasion suffer because of him.

Putin's American sycophants must be so proud. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they even had a Russian flag and a Putin picture in their home.

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The name calling is lame, and reeks of desperation.

I've still never heard a convincing reason for why we need to defend the most corrupt country in Europe.

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Ags4DaWin said:

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It's a Mutually Assured Destruction situation at this point.

If the world dumps the dollar completely inflation will skyrocket here.

If the world dumps the dollar then the US withdraws military protection and Russia and China start to cherry pick which territories to annex and global trade is hampered because trading partners no longer have military protection in global shipping.

Russia and China are setting this up because they think at this point they are powerful enough to withstand the fallout- together and also because they are ready to make their global plays which will go against the US and its allies.

TBH The US created this mess via the last 30 years of boomer failed politiics and its getting time for the chickens to come home to roost.

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Shouldn't Russia finish annexing Ukraine before they start trying to take over other countries?

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Oh geez.

I will repeat what I typed above sllllloooooowwwlllyyyy for you so hopefully you understand. That way any other strawman you fabricate out of thin air can be ridiculed thoroughly because it will not be a result of misunderstanding but intentional obfuscation on your part.

If BRICS causes countries to eliminate pr dramatically draw down their own dollar reserves......then a domino effect will result.

ONE of the results of such behavior is that the US would draw down their promises of military protection for countries that have dropped the dollar.

ANOTHER result is that BECAUSE of skyrocketing inflation, the US would likely have to drawback our own military engagement and deployment.

This power Vacuum would result in China and Russia being able to invade and annex territories they have had their eyes on

BECAUSE a declining dollar would ALSO limit our ability to render economic and military aid to countries, Russia and China would be emboldened to go after those territories with impunity.

We KNOW this because Ukarine would have fallen to Russia months ago if not for unfettered aid with no oversight.

And you r statement just unknowingly proved my point.

So thanks for that i guess.

Once again....I am not FOR Russia to win at anything.

I am simply observing how Warhawks and their own inability to see past the end of their noses hurts America's long term interests.

Russia couldn't even take out Ukraine before we started giving them aid. We only started helping them at all because Russia proved to be a paper tiger. And now you think they are a threat to other countries?

With what?

Teslag said:

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Define win

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Not being Russian?

Tswizsle said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Putin failed to take over the entire country. That was the goal when Putin invaded. Putin hasn't achieved his initial objective. Ergo, Putin failed.

But it's good to know there are American Putin sycophants who are gleeful to see a country that did nothing to provoke Putin's invasion suffer because of him.

Putin's American sycophants must be so proud. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they even had a Russian flag and a Putin picture in their home.

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Only happening due to western aid so what happens when that dries up?


Also, why should we care about this obviously Russia isnt a threat to us this a regional conflict, no one cared when they took Crimera and parts of Georgia bot we are AmERican PSychonats

Lol

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It won't dry up, and I wouldn't be surprised if things are being put in place to make sure Ukraine continues to get what they need, even if not directly from us, so they can continue to fight for their freedom from Putin who has no problem having people murdered and worse, for no other reason than vanity.

Tell me you feel the same about Israel. Hammas is more of a immediate threat to Israel than they are to us, yet Biden keeps signing off to make sure they get what they need to defend themselves.

Teslag said:

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Russia couldn't even take out Ukraine before we started giving them aid. We only started helping them at all because Russia proved to be a paper tiger. And now you think they are a threat to other countries?

With what?

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Waiiiiit wait.

You have been on this thread screaming that Ukraine needed American aid to keep stacking Russian bodies and to push Russia out.

You can't for 6 months scream that Ukraine needs aid to maintain independence and then in the same breath claim Ukraine didn't need our aid to defend itself from Russia.

Your argument now is that we ONLY gave Ukraine aid because it was going to be so easy for Ukraine to defeat Russia?!?

That makes no logical sense at all.

If Ukraine didn't need the aid then why was it so imperative we give it?

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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If any are brave enough to answer you, they'll just change the definition of win, or go on some long tangent about how much Russia lost. I doubt you'll get a response from a Uke though, Ukraine has been getting steadily pushed back for what feels like several months now - and Kursk hasn't changed anything.

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Russia wanted ALL of Ukraine.

Russia will not get all of Ukraine.

The lines will end close to where they are.

That's a HUGE win for the Ukrainians.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Teslag said:

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Russia couldn't even take out Ukraine before we started giving them aid. We only started helping them at all because Russia proved to be a paper tiger. And now you think they are a threat to other countries?

With what?

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Waiiiiit wait.

You have been on this thread screaming that Ukraine needed American aid to keep stacking Russian bodies and to push Russia out.

You can't for 6 months scream that Ukraine needs aid to maintain independence and then in the same breath claim Ukraine didn't need our aid to defend itself from Russia.

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Because I didn't say that. I said Russia couldn't even topple Ukraine without us. They got stopped at Kiev. Our aid then pushed them back hundreds off miles and helped retake 60% of what Russia gained in the first 3 months. Stalemate since.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Tswizsle said:

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People still think uke can win this war? Lol

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Putin failed to take over the entire country. That was the goal when Putin invaded. Putin hasn't achieved his initial objective. Ergo, Putin failed.

But it's good to know there are American Putin sycophants who are gleeful to see a country that did nothing to provoke Putin's invasion suffer because of him.

Putin's American sycophants must be so proud. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they even had a Russian flag and a Putin picture in their home.

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The name calling is lame, and reeks of desperation.

I've still never heard a convincing reason for why we need to defend the most corrupt country in Europe.

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Why should we defend any country? Let us step away from Israel and see how long they really last without our support.

If we're going to be truly insolationists, then let's go all the way. I'll sleep just fine knowing that at the end of the day we're not being hypocrites.

Teslag said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Teslag said:

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Russia couldn't even take out Ukraine before we started giving them aid. We only started helping them at all because Russia proved to be a paper tiger. And now you think they are a threat to other countries?

With what?

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Waiiiiit wait.

You have been on this thread screaming that Ukraine needed American aid to keep stacking Russian bodies and to push Russia out.

You can't for 6 months scream that Ukraine needs aid to maintain independence and then in the same breath claim Ukraine didn't need our aid to defend itself from Russia.

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Because I didn't say that. I said Russia couldn't even topple Ukraine without us. They got stopped at Kiev. Our aid then pushed them back hundreds off miles and helped retake 60% of what Russia gained in the first 3 months. Stalemate since.

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Just because Russia didn't take out Kiev before we started rendering aid does not mean that Russia would not have been able to do so.....

In fact the entire argument for aid that you made here time and time again was that without US aid Ukraine was going to fall....so Ukraine needed aid now....with zero oversight and zero accountability and all the aid we could give without putting a cap on it because without such aid Ukraine would fall on a short period

That is literally what you have been screaming for for months as the rest of us asked what the terms of victory were and what the cap should be.

Sorry.

You don't get to claim that

1) Russia is a paper tiger, they are incapable of successfully annexing additional territory if they try to

AND

2) Russia is so dangerous to the world that Ukraine needs unlimited military and economic aid to defend itself.

The two claims are not logically consistent.

But I appreciate how you are now moving the goalposts.

Neocons are really just leftists in disguise.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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It's a Mutually Assured Destruction situation at this point.

If the world dumps the dollar completely inflation will skyrocket here.

If the world dumps the dollar then the US withdraws military protection and Russia and China start to cherry pick which territories to annex and global trade is hampered because trading partners no longer have military protection in global shipping.

Russia and China are setting this up because they think at this point they are powerful enough to withstand the fallout- together and also because they are ready to make their global plays which will go against the US and its allies.

TBH The US created this mess via the last 30 years of boomer failed politiics and its getting time for the chickens to come home to roost.

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Shouldn't Russia finish annexing Ukraine before they start trying to take over other countries?

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Oh geez.

I will repeat what I typed above sllllloooooowwwlllyyyy for you so hopefully you understand. That way any other strawman you fabricate out of thin air can be ridiculed thoroughly because it will not be a result of misunderstanding but intentional obfuscation on your part.

If BRICS causes countries to eliminate pr dramatically draw down their own dollar reserves......then a domino effect will result.

ONE of the results of such behavior is that the US would draw down their promises of military protection for countries that have dropped the dollar.

ANOTHER result is that BECAUSE of skyrocketing inflation, the US would likely have to drawback our own military engagement and deployment.

This power Vacuum would result in China and Russia being able to invade and annex territories they have had their eyes on

BECAUSE a declining dollar would ALSO limit our ability to render economic and military aid to countries, Russia and China would be emboldened to go after those territories with impunity.

We KNOW this because Ukarine would have fallen to Russia months ago if not for unfettered aid with no oversight.

And you r statement just unknowingly proved my point.

So thanks for that i guess.

Once again....I am not FOR Russia to win at anything.

I am simply observing how Warhawks and their own inability to see past the end of their noses hurts America's long term interests.

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Tesla already said it, but, since you replied to me...

Russia can't even take Ukraine (which was the point of my comment). With what are they going to take all these other countries? The can't go west, because even if the US withdraws support, they all have weapon systems superior to the Russians (and remember, the French and Brits ALSO have nukes). I guess they can go invade the desert countries again, though.

I have already answered this.

You don't get to scream for months that Ukraine urgentlt needs Hundreds of billions of dollars in military and economic aid to defend itself from Russia

And also claim that Russia is incapable of taking Ukraine nd other regions without our aid if the dollar falls in value to the point we are rendered economically impotent.

Either Ukraine needed our aid to defend itself because Russia is a threat to the entire region or it didn't.

You and your ilk just spent months claiming that if we did not aid Ukraine then AFTER Ukraine fell there would be a domino effect of Russian aggression.

You don't get to pull a 180 now and claim Russia was so weak Ukraine didn't need our aid unless you are also willing to admit that it was wrong to give them so much aid in the first place and immediately start saying that we need to stop giving Ukraine aid.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Teslag said:

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Russia couldn't even take out Ukraine before we started giving them aid. We only started helping them at all because Russia proved to be a paper tiger. And now you think they are a threat to other countries?

With what?

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Waiiiiit wait.

You have been on this thread screaming that Ukraine needed American aid to keep stacking Russian bodies and to push Russia out.

You can't for 6 months scream that Ukraine needs aid to maintain independence and then in the same breath claim Ukraine didn't need our aid to defend itself from Russia.

Your argument now is that we ONLY gave Ukraine aid because it was going to be so easy for Ukraine to defeat Russia?!?

That makes no logical sense at all.

If Ukraine didn't need the aid then why was it so imperative we give it?

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Russia started their invasion with the intent of taking all of Ukraine. Ukraine pushed their **** in on that initial attack.

That showed other countries that perhaps supporting Ukraine would not be futile.

Think of it like when the Americans won the battle of Saratoga and the French decided to commit to helping us.

Ags4DaWin said:

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I have already answered this.

You don't get to scream for months that Ukraine urgentlt needs Hundreds of billions of dollars in military and economic aid to defend itself from Russia

And also claim that Russia is incapable of taking Ukraine nd other regions without our aid if the dollar falls in value to the point we are rendered economically impotent.

Either Ukraine needed our aid to defend itself because Russia is a threat to the entire region or it didn't.

You and your ilk just spent months claiming that if we did not aid Ukraine then AFTER Ukraine fell there would be a domino effect of Russian aggression.

You don't get to pull a 180 now and claim Russia was so weak Ukraine didn't need our aid unless you are also willing to admit that it was wrong to give them so much aid in the first place and immediately start saying that we need to stop giving Ukraine aid.

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I never said that.

Politicians said that because that's how they sell ****, though.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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It's a Mutually Assured Destruction situation at this point.

If the world dumps the dollar completely inflation will skyrocket here.

If the world dumps the dollar then the US withdraws military protection and Russia and China start to cherry pick which territories to annex and global trade is hampered because trading partners no longer have military protection in global shipping.

Russia and China are setting this up because they think at this point they are powerful enough to withstand the fallout- together and also because they are ready to make their global plays which will go against the US and its allies.

TBH The US created this mess via the last 30 years of boomer failed politiics and its getting time for the chickens to come home to roost.

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Shouldn't Russia finish annexing Ukraine before they start trying to take over other countries?

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Oh geez.

I will repeat what I typed above sllllloooooowwwlllyyyy for you so hopefully you understand. That way any other strawman you fabricate out of thin air can be ridiculed thoroughly because it will not be a result of misunderstanding but intentional obfuscation on your part.

If BRICS causes countries to eliminate pr dramatically draw down their own dollar reserves......then a domino effect will result.

ONE of the results of such behavior is that the US would draw down their promises of military protection for countries that have dropped the dollar.

ANOTHER result is that BECAUSE of skyrocketing inflation, the US would likely have to drawback our own military engagement and deployment.

This power Vacuum would result in China and Russia being able to invade and annex territories they have had their eyes on

BECAUSE a declining dollar would ALSO limit our ability to render economic and military aid to countries, Russia and China would be emboldened to go after those territories with impunity.

We KNOW this because Ukarine would have fallen to Russia months ago if not for unfettered aid with no oversight.

And you r statement just unknowingly proved my point.

So thanks for that i guess.

Once again....I am not FOR Russia to win at anything.

I am simply observing how Warhawks and their own inability to see past the end of their noses hurts America's long term interests.

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BTW...

How is China going to be able to afford all this annexation?

With your scenario, the US and west won't be doing business with them.

Here are the BRICS countries:

Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia, and the United Arab Emirates

THAT is their economic support.

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Just because Russia didn't take out Kiev before we started rendering aid does not mean that Russia would not have been able to do so.....

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That's exactly what it means. That's when Russia was at their strongest and they've been weaker ever since.