Or staging a coup in a sovereign country. The 1999 78 day war on Serbia, Jeffrey Sachs discussed with Tucker also.

Today's sitrep.

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I'll start with what is the most interesting news to me: Ukraine's defense minister Umerov has stated in a new Reuters interview that Russia plans to insert an additional massive 200-300k troops into Ukraine.

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This is obviously huge, if true. The 500k figure is roughly what we already know as Russia's contingent currently involved in the SMO, but the addition of another 200-300kthe equivalent of multiple field armiesis a far greater force than most imagined Russia would utilize in the next wave.

Umerov doesn't specify if this is to be the land force used in the new northern campaign, but if that's the case, then one can't help but imagine Russia seeks to put an end to the war once and for all.

Recall that we've heard figures like 20-30k being used for Russia's northern Kharkov contingent, counting reserves which have not been used yet, but some reports claimed this figure can quickly swell to 50-80k.

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Now, before the usual folks whine/gnash teeth about how impossible it is that Russia has such forces in reserve now, after being 'decimated' by Ukraine for the past 2.5 years, note that this is Reuters talking to Ukraine's defense minister citing the figures.

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But where is this new potential 200-300k being taken from? Those who've been reading here for a while know I've tracked Shoigu's newly raised army of nearly 500k men throughout 2023, and we've often discussed whether they would be utilized in real combat operations or kept as a reserve deterrent force against NATO. I leaned in the direction of it being a reserve force, but I think both are right in that Russia has continued recruiting men throughout 2024 as well, which means by now they likely have even far more than that original 500k. Thus, taking even 200-300k of them for combat operations can leave hundreds of thousands in reserve, which will still accumulate toward the 500k mark again by this year.

It's hard to know how much of it is exaggeration, but Ukrainian reports have recently claimed that Russian forces outnumber them 8:1 or even 10:1 in some areas of the eastern front. Ukraine is not keeping up with Russian recruitment whatsoever, as numbers for the new 'mobilization' continue to look dire.

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Much more at the link, as always. RWAPodcast has a 2.5 hour documentary about how the Russians in Crimea/Donetsk broke away after the Nuland coup. I'm declining to link it here but it is very comprehensive.

Multiple Explosions heard 5 hours or so ago near Starokostiantyniv Air Base in the Khmelnytskyi Region of Western Ukraine. This same Air Base, which is Home to the 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force. WSJ picks up on the Sino-Russian-Indian alliance benefiting from the sanctions idiocy.

Ukraine escalation is getting out of control. Ukraine trying to take out Russia’s early warning systems, heightening risk of catastrophic error.

My uncle installed hotlines in the White House and the Kennedy compound at Hyannisport so that he could pick up the phone and talk…

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) May 29, 2024

But forever war, RFK Jr!

I expect much wailing and gnashing of teeth over these numbers posed by the Ukrainians. The ardent Uke supporters will quake in their boots, last they heard Putin was "capitulating"

Issues with the ammo Uke is receiving

🗞️🇺🇦🇨🇿“Czechoslovak Group, the largest ammunition supplier in central Europe, warned that rising prices and poor quality meant that half the shells it had received could not be sent to Ukraine’s battlefields as quickly as planned.” - FT pic.twitter.com/5ELGxiKpO3

— Konstantinos (@KonstanVe) May 30, 2024

Suspicious manipulation of headlines by the Telegraph

The telegraph made three corrections to its article, a prime example of how the western propaganda machine controls the narrative.

First title: Accurate but not digestible for its audience as they’ve been lied to consistently.

Second title: very accurate but doesn’t provide… pic.twitter.com/den6US7jaX

— ayden (@squatsons) May 29, 2024

As most knew, Russia blew their wad too early in fear of the new US aid package coming over the next few months. Explains Russia's latest stalled and rushed "offensive" and Putin's buckling.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-began-kharkiv-offensive-early-trying-beat-ukraine-aid-isw-2024-5

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Russia began its latest offensive in northern Ukraine too early and without enough soldiers because it wanted to get ahead of Western aid heading to Ukraine, experts said.

The Washington DC-based think tank the Institute for the Study of War said over the weekend that "Russian forces likely launched the offensive operation in northern Kharkiv Oblast earlier than intended with an understrength force hoping to establish a foothold before the arrival of resumed US military aid to the front made that task more difficult."

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Putin, ever the terrible strategist and unable to maintain any minimal gains...

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The ISW said Russia was seemingly able to surprise Ukraine when it started the offensive, and made some gains in areas that Ukrainian officials said were not as well defended.

But, it added, "the likely premature start of Russian offensive operations appears to have undermined Russian success in northern Kharkiv Oblast."

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Folks will draw different conclusions from this.

The most interesting thing, in my opinion, about the Defense Minister of Ukraine saying the aid is held up is that there were folks here who assured us that the aid was stockpiled, nearby, ready to go as soon as the funding was passed.

I will admit, I was fooled. I believed them and thought the aid would be ready to go.

"Ukrainian" narrative propaganda is quite strong. But it always favors the pointless death of more Ukrainians.

And…here we go.

2/https://t.co/2GRgCOkFuH

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) May 30, 2024

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"Ukrainian" narrative propaganda is quite strong. But it always favors the pointless death of more Ukrainians.

And…here we go.

2/https://t.co/2GRgCOkFuH

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) May 30, 2024

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Why not, lets just start WWIII.

A cogent perspective on WW3 and the motivation to drive on with the Ukraine proxy war on Europe.

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The other likely motivation for the Russia-Ukraine war is to destroy the Eurasian alliance that was forming between China, Europe and the U.S. However, this already lies in ruins, but the aim could be to hold up the tensions so that there could be no detente between Europe and Russia/China. This requires that the war in Ukraine continues and even spreads. Peace would be very risky to this scenario, as Europe could be seeking to re-establish relations with Russia due to its importance, e.g. to European energy security. Peace at this point would also be a heavy blow to the credibility of the U.S. military power.

The third possible source of motivation is rather speculative. I have speculated on the possibility that the global elite, and a powerful group behind (or over) them is sowing their own dark plan for Europe and the world. This group could be assumed to have a strong influence on the Deep State in all major countries. Their agenda would likely consist of inflicting ultimate chaos in the world in order to establish a pervasive control mechanism. World War III, even with the risk of nuclear annihilation, could serve such an agenda.
Regardless of which of the two scenarios the current NATO leadership is following, the implications for Europe and the world are dire. This is because they both point to deepening escalation. This implies that we have entered the most dangerous period of European history since the late 1930's.

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"NATO's phantom armies" and a discussion of this war with the ghost of Clausewitz.

Big Serge discusses the widening front:

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Under conditions like these, it becomes frankly nonsensical to chart Ukraine's path forward on the ground. An army that is in a constant state of reacting to emergencies can only continue for so long before they stop reacting at all, and an army that is constantly forced to scramble its best brigades around and deploy unprepared units to hold the line can never regain the initiative. It has no ability to accumulate resources, and remains in a permanent state of reactivity and awful, awful churn. Ultimately, this is an army with serious resource constraints and no ability to conserve those resources.

In effect, we're now seeing Russia reverse the events of Autumn 2022, when the Russian army was forced to accept a radical shortening of the front - withdrawing from west bank Kherson and being run out of Kharkov oblast. In that case, it was Russia that had inadequate force generation. The difference is that Russia had a higher gear - untapped mobilization and a war economy that gave it the prospect of a long term surge in combat power. Ukraine doesn't have a higher gear. Furthermore, Ukraine lacks the ability to shorten the front. Russia was able to withdraw from large sectors of the battlespace in order to more efficiently allocate resources. Ukraine cannot do this, because giving up sectors of front means letting the Russian army roll over large swathes of the country. Russia has the ability to both shorten and widen the front at will, and Ukraine does not. This pivotal strategic asymmetry is simply the reality for an overmatched country fighting on home turf.

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The problem for Ukraine is that they tend to maniacally focus on token "big ticket" items that do not ameliorate their broader strategic crisis. License to hurl ATACMs at targets inside Russia is not a panacea for Ukraine's bigger problem. Ukraine has already showed the ability to hit Russian strategic assets - sniping naval installations, radar, and air defense batteries. Ukraine's successful strikes on such assets have continually trickled in as the west has propped up their strike capability with Storm Shadows, ATACMs, and more. And yet, Ukraine continues to give ground in the Donbas amid an increasingly dire shortage of basic war making necessities like infantry.

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Much more at the links. Forever war, comrades!

"There are no nazi's in Ukraine."

Nice tat, who’s that? pic.twitter.com/1WMe9tkMQT

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) May 31, 2024

Russia, fake news, and the future of conflict.

Nina Jankowicz And The Alethea Group

Before the IC’s attempt to infiltrate Twitter and control its content moderation, several of the operatives involved made the case for treating “disinformation” as a security threat that requires intelligence and military tactics to combat.… pic.twitter.com/ZEaL9g9g0C

— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) May 23, 2024

China shuns fake Zelensky 'peace' summit propaganda.

So much this:

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The third possible source of motivation is rather speculative. I have speculated on the possibility that the global elite, and a powerful group behind (or over) them is sowing their own dark plan for Europe and the world. This group could be assumed to have a strong influence on the Deep State in all major countries. Their agenda would likely consist of inflicting ultimate chaos in the world in order to establish a pervasive control mechanism. World War III, even with the risk of nuclear annihilation, could serve such an agenda.

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Obama/Biden, Soros, Schuab, Gates, Big Pharma. Groups that are sold out in the military.

They could care less about Ukraine, it's a useful stooge.

See Tesla just wants dead Russians, He could careless about the Ukes. The question is why?

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So much this:

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The third possible source of motivation is rather speculative. I have speculated on the possibility that the global elite, and a powerful group behind (or over) them is sowing their own dark plan for Europe and the world. This group could be assumed to have a strong influence on the Deep State in all major countries. Their agenda would likely consist of inflicting ultimate chaos in the world in order to establish a pervasive control mechanism. World War III, even with the risk of nuclear annihilation, could serve such an agenda.

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Obama/Biden, Soros, Schuab, Gates, Big Pharma. Groups that are sold out in the military.

They could care less about Ukraine, it's a useful stooge.

See Tesla just wants dead Russians, He could careless about the Ukes. The question is why?

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This is incorrect.

And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

40:48:

Erik Prince on the many failures of the U.S. military.

(6:40) Erik Prince on The Liz Cheney Wing of Congress
(32:45) The Main Villains of The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars
(40:48) Where does the Money We Send to Ukraine Really Go?
(1:21:34) Why are the Climate Change Zombies… pic.twitter.com/WT9NsQWY9g

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) May 21, 2024

A good thread/point;

ERRATUM: sorry, this post should have read:

"A survey of coverage including that by the excellent https://t.co/OkjmzxJFqa..." - WT are yet to produce a separate data yield/report for platoon command as far as I know (and it would be a larger sample size than mine if they did) https://t.co/tjTVcDT5yR

— Matt Davies (@MNormanDavies) May 31, 2024

A large barrage of 53+ missiles launched by Russia overnight, with the Ukrainians of course claiming to have downed the vast majority.

Resistance up the road:

The Georgian PM is sowing huge zrada. Unfathomably based. pic.twitter.com/CnphCGBFRa

— Olga Bazova (@OlgaBazova) May 31, 2024

Ukraine hoax impeachment coup co-conspirator Eric Ciaramella, CIA asset (as with Hunter) and traitor to the republic who should absolutely be tried and convicted for his crimes, is now opining in the private sector about how we need to do more for the Nuland regime in the proxy war on Russia, and ensure they have a 'deterrent long range strike' capability long term.

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Military experts believe that the Ukrainian army needs to triple its intake of recruits to sustain defensive operations at current levels of fighting. Kyiv is trying to fix its manpower shortage and has asked its NATO partners to help train recruits inside Ukraine. This would be a faster and more effective way to prepare Ukrainian soldiers for battle. Most countries, including the United States, have refused to deploy trainers on Ukrainian soil out of concern for their safety, but Kyiv's dire battlefield position might be prompting some of them to reconsider.

Critical as they are, additional U.S. weapons and Ukrainian personnel will only serve as a bandage to stop the bleeding. A deeper problem remains: the lack of a coherent strategy to confront the long-term threat that Russia poses to Ukraineand to European security. For more than two years, Kyiv and its partners have operated in crisis-management mode, planning in increments of months rather than years.

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A strategy to build up Ukraine's long-range strike arsenal would serve three purposes. First, it would enable Kyiv to systematically target Russia's force regeneration and weapons production facilities, degrading Moscow's ability to wage war. Second, it would contribute to deterring future Russian aggression by raising the costs that Moscow would suffer if it attacked again. And third, it would have the potential to compel Moscow to scale back its air and missile attacks on Ukrainian civilian populations and critical infrastructure.

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Horrible, no good, very bad things. Oh, and of course Vindman is running for congress from within the swamp confines in Virginia. He prioritizes "supporting" Ukraine in the war to the last Ukrainian, naturally.

Siege warfare by the Russians. Only costs Russia 10 cents for every tax dollar of the US citizens spent.

This is Putin's version of the Reagan star war.

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Ukraine hoax impeachment coup co-conspirator Eric Ciaramella, CIA asset (as with Hunter) and traitor to the republic ..... Oh, and of course Vindman is running for congress from within the swamp confines in Virginia.

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Producing a list of dingdongs and dingbats that support Ukraine doesn't validate Russia's unprovoked invasion ... or by association, invalidate Western aid. Irrational mutually exclusive argument.

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Ukraine hoax impeachment coup co-conspirator Eric Ciaramella, CIA asset (as with Hunter) and traitor to the republic ..... Oh, and of course Vindman is running for congress from within the swamp confines in Virginia.

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Producing a list of dingdongs and dingbats that support Ukraine doesn't validate Russia's unprovoked invasion ...or by association, invalidate Western aid. Irrational mutually exclusive argument.

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I didn't see anyone claim it did.

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

This is not a difficult thing. We don't need to play your silly games where it's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault BUT Russia that they invaded.

And perhaps Putin was waiting for a good time to attack again. He took Crimea already. He wanted more.

Biden is weak. Putin probably figured it was a good time to do it since President Potato is too dumb to do anything about it.

BUT....it was STILL only because Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

This is not a difficult thing. We don't need to play your silly games where it's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault BUT Russia that they invaded.

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And we're supposed to believe it's a coincidence Russia suddenly out of nowhere started feeling this way when Joe Biden walked into Pennsylvania Ave? I think that is naive.

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

This is not a difficult thing. We don't need to play your silly games where it's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault BUT Russia that they invaded.

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And we're supposed to believe it's a coincidence Russia suddenly out of nowhere started feeling this way when Joe Biden walked into Pennsylvania Ave? I think that is naive.

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I edited my earlier post to add this:

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And perhaps Putin was waiting for a good time to attack again. He took Crimea already. He wanted more.

Biden is weak. Putin probably figured it was a good time to do it since President Potato is too dumb to do anything about it.

BUT....it was STILL only because Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

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NOTE that Putin/Russia ALREADY invaded and annexed part of Ukraine PRIOR to Biden and Trump...

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OPAG said:

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

This is not a difficult thing. We don't need to play your silly games where it's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault BUT Russia that they invaded.

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And we're supposed to believe it's a coincidence Russia suddenly out of nowhere started feeling this way when Joe Biden walked into Pennsylvania Ave? I think that is naive.

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I edited my earlier post to add this:

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And perhaps Putin was waiting for a good time to attack again. He took Crimea already. He wanted more.

Biden is weak. Putin probably figured it was a good time to do it since President Potato is too dumb to do anything about it.

BUT....it was STILL only because Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

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NOTE that Putin/Russia ALREADY invaded and annexed part of Ukraine PRIOR to Biden and Trump...

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That edit is golden. You've defeated your
own argument.

If Putin waited for a weak leader, then the weak leader is also, at least partially, responsible. because the implication is that a strong leader would've prevented it. And if someone else could've prevented it, Putin can not (if using logic) be solely responsible.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

This is not a difficult thing. We don't need to play your silly games where it's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault BUT Russia that they invaded.

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And we're supposed to believe it's a coincidence Russia suddenly out of nowhere started feeling this way when Joe Biden walked into Pennsylvania Ave? I think that is naive.

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I edited my earlier post to add this:

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And perhaps Putin was waiting for a good time to attack again. He took Crimea already. He wanted more.

Biden is weak. Putin probably figured it was a good time to do it since President Potato is too dumb to do anything about it.

BUT....it was STILL only because Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

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NOTE that Putin/Russia ALREADY invaded and annexed part of Ukraine PRIOR to Biden and Trump...

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That edit is golden. You've defeated your
own argument.

If Putin waited for a weak leader, then the weak leader is also, at least partially, responsible. because the implication is that a strong leader would've prevented it. And if someone else could've prevented it, Putin can not (if using logic) be solely responsible.

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Putin is the only one who ordered the invasion. That means he's solely responsible, no matter how much "other perspectives" try and blame literally anyone else.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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OPAG said:

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

This is not a difficult thing. We don't need to play your silly games where it's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault BUT Russia that they invaded.

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And we're supposed to believe it's a coincidence Russia suddenly out of nowhere started feeling this way when Joe Biden walked into Pennsylvania Ave? I think that is naive.

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I edited my earlier post to add this:

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And perhaps Putin was waiting for a good time to attack again. He took Crimea already. He wanted more.

Biden is weak. Putin probably figured it was a good time to do it since President Potato is too dumb to do anything about it.

BUT....it was STILL only because Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

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NOTE that Putin/Russia ALREADY invaded and annexed part of Ukraine PRIOR to Biden and Trump...

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That edit is golden. You've defeated your
own argument.

If Putin waited for a weak leader, then the weak leader is also, at least partially, responsible. because the implication is that a strong leader would've prevented it. And if someone else could've prevented it, Putin can not (if using logic) be solely responsible.

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Putin is the only one who ordered the invasion. That means he's solely responsible, no matter how much "other perspectives" try and blame literally anyone else.

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Sorry. I'm confused. You jumped into a healthy discussion with an opinion stated as fact, and nothing else.

Are you denying that Putin waited for a weak leader?

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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And the best way to prevent any more Ukrainian deaths would be for Putin to end this invasion now.C

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Or Nato nations not seek to draw in Ukraine and quit using Ukraine as a sex, drug, money laundering and "kill Russian" zone.

Or a bio weapons development hub, or a . . ...

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Horse *****..

Russia is the one cause of all the Ukrainian deaths.

Conflating all that other BS with this situation does NOT change that fact.

Russia can prevent Ukrainian deaths by leaving.

NONE of the other stuff is the cause of these Ukrainian deaths.

If Russia leaves, Ukrainians AND Russians stop dying IMMEDIATELY.

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You're so close.

If Russia's invasion caused the death, what caused Russia to invade?

If your answer is Putin, why didn't he invade when the last guy was in the white house?

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Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

This is not a difficult thing. We don't need to play your silly games where it's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault BUT Russia that they invaded.

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And we're supposed to believe it's a coincidence Russia suddenly out of nowhere started feeling this way when Joe Biden walked into Pennsylvania Ave? I think that is naive.

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I edited my earlier post to add this:

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And perhaps Putin was waiting for a good time to attack again. He took Crimea already. He wanted more.

Biden is weak. Putin probably figured it was a good time to do it since President Potato is too dumb to do anything about it.

BUT....it was STILL only because Russia wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia.

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NOTE that Putin/Russia ALREADY invaded and annexed part of Ukraine PRIOR to Biden and Trump...

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That edit is golden. You've defeated your
own argument.

If Putin waited for a weak leader, then the weak leader is also, at least partially, responsible. because the implication is that a strong leader would've prevented it. And if someone else could've prevented it, Putin can not (if using logic) be solely responsible.

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Putin is the only one who ordered the invasion. That means he's solely responsible, no matter how much "other perspectives" try and blame literally anyone else.

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Sorry. I'm confused. You jumped into a healthy discussion with an opinion stated as fact, and nothing else.

Are you denying that Putin waited for a weak leader?

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There were probably dozens of reasons why Putin decided to invade when he did. It's also possible that if the initial invasion didn't work he wanted republicans in charge of congress because he knew the hardliners would block the aid, so waiting until 2022 makes sense for that. But no one knows exactly why except Putin, and especially not a bunch of internet "experts."

Does anyone besides Putin control what the Russian military does?

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Does anyone besides Putin control what the Russian military does?

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Yes. There is a dead hand switch already active on a nuclear response, not Putin's. The ecstasy of escalation is obvious on various outlets/from different officials publicly, and some even on this site are excited about it:

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Already on the Edge of Doom
The escalation "ecstasy" defined by Peskov went out of control since a secret - new batch of ATACMS was dispatched to Kiev earlier this year, complemented with longer-range ATACMS. Kiev has been using them for serious hits on Russian air bases and key air defense nodes. These ATACMS fire missiles at Mach 3 speed: a serious challenge even for the best Russian air defense systems.

All that seems to point to a crucial decision enveloped in several layers of fog: as the incoming, cosmic NATO humiliation in the black soil of Novorossiya becomes self-evident day after day, the Western elites who really run the show are betting on provoking a full Hot War against Russia.
Richard H. Black, a former US senator from Virginia, offers a sobering analysis:

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"This is a continuation of the pattern in which the NATO forces recognize they are losing the war in Ukraine, with the fragile lines of defense breaking, and the NATO response is to escalate. This is not accidental, but very deliberate. It is not the first attack on the Russian nuclear triad. The ideological folks are seeing their world crumbling, after flying the rainbow flag over conservative countries and [waging] perpetual wars. They are frantic and could escalate to nuclear war to get out of the bind. They are taking a series of baby steps, and respond that 'they don't do anything in response,' and so they keep taking baby steps until one of them lands on a land mine and we are into World War III. (…) Putin is very aware of the disconnect in the West, who keep saying he is just saber rattling, but he is nothe is informing the West of the dangerous reality."

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In Russia, Senator Dmitry Rogozin, a former head of Roscosmos, directly warned Washington: "We are not just on the threshold, but already on the edge, beyond which, if the enemy is not stopped in such actions, an irreversible collapse of the strategic security of the nuclear powers will begin."

General Evgeny Buzhinky advanced an ominous scenario: "I am sure that if the strikes of Taurus of ATACMS are very harmful for Russia, then I presume we will at least strike the logistical hub in the territory of Poland in Rzeszw" where the missiles are staged for delivery to Ukraine.

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We're not there yet even as we get ominously closer day after day. Dmitri Medvedev has issued the umpteenth red line: a US strike on Russian targets, or the US letting Kiev hit targets within Russia using American missiles and drones would be the 'start of World War'.

And Foreign Minister Lavrov, once again displaying his trademark Taoist patience, had to come up with another serious reminder: Russia will regard the deployment of nuclear-capable F-16s in Ukraine which de facto can only be operated by NATO pilots as "a deliberate signal from NATO in the nuclear field to Russia".

And still the gaggle of armchair Dr. Strangeloves lavishly rewarded by the rarified Atlanticist plutocracy holding real power, funds, influence and mass media control - is not listening.

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The Postil: Who is my enemy? Is a great piece. Small excerpt:

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And then along comes this war in Ukraine. Here is a country that is not part of the EU, nor a member of NATO, but all the Western politicians latched on to it, because it was "existential" somehow for each of them. For places like Canada, the UK, New Zealand to be truly safe, Ukraine must win. If it loses, well, it's slavery and the dull road to the Gulag, for the whole world. It's absurd really that we are ruled by such morons who spew endless lies which are sadly believed, and therefore the general populace keeps electing them dutifully (but let's not digress).

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Spoiler alert; the neo-malthusians orchestrating this developing war are the 'real baddies.' And it's not…Vladimir Putin.

That's a lot of words to confirm that Putin is the only one who controls what the Russian army does.

Also, from your hilariously "unbiased" article:

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There's no reason to think Kiev will stick to "limited" strikes against relatively unimportant targets. Instead, it is likely to target critical security infrastructure in hopes of provoking an unrelenting Russian response, which in turn would pave the way for NATO to invoke Article 5 and de facto engage in a Hot War.

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Why should Ukraine be limited on what they can target? If Russia doesn't like it they are welcome to stop their invasion and go home. The continued efforts by Russia and its mouthpieces across the internet to imply that Ukraine is doing this for some convoluted stretch of logic about provoking a larger war, instead of the obvious - convince Russia to stop their invasion, is both sad and blatantly transparent. It's a war. Russia started it and shouldn't be surprised that they are feeling the consequences.

Are they using weapons they bought with their money? If so go for it. I am in support of Ukraine. I am not in support of us pouring money into it.

Did you know we have sent money to help their social services and pensions? Some of the same people who are against our government doing for our people love us for helping Ukraine.

We are about to hear they need more. All of you will gladly say yes. When this ends you will say yes to rebuilding them. Where does it end?

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Are they using weapons they bought with their money? If so go for it. I am in support of Ukraine. I am not in support of us pouring money into it.

Did you know we have sent money to help their social services and pensions? Some of the same people who are against our government doing for our people love us for helping Ukraine.

We are about to hear they need more. All of you will gladly say yes. When this ends you will say yes to rebuilding them. Where does it end?

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Not sure who you're addressing with the last point, as I've said I don't think we should fund it indefinitely. However currently I still don't have a problem with the amount we've given so far, especially since most of it is in old equipment that's letting us replenish our current stockpiles.

And are you aware we spend tens of billions of dollars in foreign aid every year? Personally I don't agree with that and would prefer we spend that money here, but if we're going to spend it, why should Ukraine be exempt once Russia finally gives up and the new lines are drawn?

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Richard H. Black, a former US senator from Virginia, offers a sobering analysis:

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"This is a continuation of the pattern in which the NATO forces recognize they are losing the war in Ukraine, with the fragile lines of defense breaking, and the NATO response is to escalate. This is not accidental, but very deliberate. It is not the first attack on the Russian nuclear triad. The ideological folks are seeing their world crumbling, after flying the rainbow flag over conservative countries and [waging] perpetual wars. They are frantic and could escalate to nuclear war to get out of the bind. They are taking a series of baby steps, and respond that 'they don't do anything in response,' and so they keep taking baby steps until one of them lands on a land mine and we are into World War III. (…) Putin is very aware of the disconnect in the West, who keep saying he is just saber rattling, but he is nothe is informing the West of the dangerous reality."

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In today's episode of "You can't make this up"

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In many instances, Foreign propogandists label him a "U.S. Senator" rather then the proper Virginia State Senator.

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Orban putting Nato/warmongers on blast:

🇭🇺Viktor Orban:

Hungary wants to be bought in vain, it is not for sale. It is so valuable because it is not for sale. It is not for sale to Brussels, Washington or Soros. Ladies and gentlemen, we have never had such a large crowd before a European election. If only we could… pic.twitter.com/TVrFibpzF1

— Zlatti71 (@Zlatti_71) June 2, 2024

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Hungary wants to be bought in vain, it is not for sale. It is so valuable because it is not for sale. It is not for sale to Brussels, Washington or Soros. Ladies and gentlemen, we have never had such a large crowd before a European election. If only we could strike a blow against our opponents. They would fly to Brussels. But we won't, because there are enough pro-war politicians in Brussels. My friends, today Europe is preparing for war, announcing every day the passage of another section of the road to hell. Every time we talk about 100 billion euros for Ukraine, about placing nuclear weapons in the centre of Europe, about conscripting our sons into a foreign army, about a NATO mission in Ukraine, about European military units in Ukraine. My friends, it seems that the pro-war train has no brakes and the engineer has gone mad. In the European elections we will do nothing less than stop this train. We must apply the emergency brake so that at least those who want to can get off and not get involved in the war.

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Simplicius' sitrep.

Zelensky lashes out at…China for not doing what he wants. Somehow his constant whining makes me think he's never read Dale Carnegie's book. Oh, and he says DJT 'could be a loser president.'

Obvious fixing operation in Kharkov forced the commitment of all available Ukrainian reserves... meanwhile we're still waiting for the other operational shoe to drop.

I suspect this delay actually has to do with the nature of how you "fix" an enemy force - you have to engage it… https://t.co/Hz5dpgC0Zo pic.twitter.com/9TWcrrozFd

— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) June 3, 2024

🇭🇺VIKTOR ORBÁN:

"The founding fathers of the European Union were right: Europe cannot endure another war.

This was why the European Union was created.

Before the First World War, Europe was master of the world.

After the Second World War, it was no longer master of itself,… pic.twitter.com/lxOaBDUTtz

— Sony Thang (@nxt888) June 2, 2024

This guy gets it. So does Tucker:

💣 Tucker Carlson Drops Some Truthbombs on Ukraine Situation

“They already selling off lands in Ukraine to foreign investors, they will flood Ukraine with third-world migrants.

In 50 years, there’ll be no Ukraine.

We betrayed them like no other country. Ever.”

⁦ pic.twitter.com/J9fl7DjIaD

— Aff (@Zhy9876510) June 2, 2024

Their pitch to the State Dept in 2014, right after the Ukraine coup & Crimea, was that Burisma was an essential instrument of US statecraft that needed to be protected by the US State Department

Do you get it yet https://t.co/jVnNQ8u3g9 pic.twitter.com/6MbpGW5hrf

— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) June 3, 2024

Hundreds of thousands of lives lost over this corruption and cover up.

⚡️Swiss upper house rejects $5.58bn aid plan for Ukraine.

Switzerland's upper house of parliament rejected a 5 billion Swiss franc ($5.58 billion) aid plan for Ukraine, over concerns it would breach the neutral country's borrowing restrictions.https://t.co/WEdAAtoCNP

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) June 3, 2024