Yes. Hunter bragging about Joe Biden and Xi being 'in love with each other' and the factual history of trade/support for China toward Russia in this war that benefits them is inevitably something I think more should be made aware of.

I think we all agree Xi Jinping doesn't give two whits about the Slavs being slaughtered on both sides. They see this as a clear win.

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Because they don't like us (and the west in general) and seek to harm us and our interests across the globe.

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This is flat revisionist history. The reality is Russia is acting like a jilted girl friend.

The history of Russia is they have always wanted to be considered part of Europe and the west, It is the west that has rejected them constantly,

After the wall fell Russian made overtures to be part of NATO and were soundly rebuffed while NATO picked off the former Soviet states. This is fact, whether we like it or not.

The reason Russia was not an ally is because of people like you. And the MIC needs to have an enemy and adversary. Imagine the world today if we had sought to unite and Russia was part of NATO. WOW.

It could of happened, it didn't because the Mafia/Cabal that runs the west didn't want it. Plain and simple

And the master strategist Putin went along because reasons. I hope you're high.

I posted this on 2/15/22 (in a thread about Biden taking credit for Ukraine something-something):


They (Ukrainian soldiers) probably had to shred US Embassy documents that tie the Biden crime syndicate to the Ukrainian land Russia will be receiving in concession over the next 6-8 weeks.


That way, Putin and Biden pocket a few $Billion for themselves, while Biden costs America another $5 Trillion.

What buildup? Why? MIC? Yessir!

Just another goldmine for Joey Obummer & Co...

As the Liberal World Turns - It's all about the stock markets and shady deals.


Man, was I wrong about the 6-8 weeks prediction...

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However, I don't necessarily buy their numbers. It's known that they purposely put out disinformation.

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And the UKEs and the Cabal led west does not!?!???!??! You really can't be that naive, that is special sort of naivety there.

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And the master strategist Putin went along because reasons. I hope you're high.

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I think at one it was claimed even Zelensky was in on the conspiracy. Putin Zelensky Biden and the CCP all plotting it together.

This is really simple boys, all ya got to do is go back to the basics in all this.

It goes back to 2014 and the CIA/Nuland led coup.

From the very beginning Russian strategy has been clear. Ukraine cannot be part of NATO. 2nd the Eastern parts of Ukraine that identify as Russian will not be persecuted or forced to be part of a what Putin has clearly stated redundantly a Facist US made regime.

Whether you agree or not, the Nazi movement in the Ukraine is strong. Russia has not vascelated one bit from it's original stated goal. When it comes to Ukraine. Secure the eastern side, create a buffer (which Ukraine was against an aggressive NATO.

As they have done that, they are now at least willing to negotiate, It has nothing to do with the US sending weapons. NOTHING, they have accomplished their agenda.

Of course there are those who think Putin is stupid, a bafoon, Putin maybe many things but stupid or a bafoon is not one of them.

There are other objectives (hidden) that are also accomplished.

1. Ukraine as hub of kidnapping and sex trafficking Russia girls is now stopped.
2. Ukraine as a hub of bio weapons engineering is broken (US Special forces took care of that)
3. Ukraine's meddling in our elections was taken out (again US Special forces)
4. Ukraine as Soros/Cabal hub of corruption (especially drug/sex and money laundering) has been severly damaged.

I am curious as to why those support the Zelensky/Nuland/Soros led Ukes think they are good? As I said they have done more damage to the US then Russia ever has.

Go and remember the Russia, Russia Russia, BS around Trump. The impeachments came from where. Ukraine. Adam Schiff, McClain, and Romney and many others are the pay of who Ukraine (Soros and the Cabals)

Pull your head out your back sides.

Secondly, the first invasion just revealed to Putin who was 1. Getting funds from the CIA/west. 2. Who is competent and who is not.

I said earlier. Putin needed this just like Netanuhu 'needed' a Hamas invasion. Just like we needed a 9/11 or a Pearl Harbor. Public opinion must be galvanized. And nothing does that like an attack on your own people.

This war has been a boon for Russia and China and Brics on so many fronts. Myopic people with prejudice cannot see that.

Putin knows about needing attacks against his own people. He used one right after he came to power to consolidate his power and attack Chechnya. He used one recently to blame Ukraine and the West

True, and you think that we have not done the same? Do you really believe we are 'Good and virutous"? Do you think Ukraine is virtuous? Please. Are you for LGBPT ? (or whatever the hell they are using now) How about the occult? Are you for them too. How about Marina Abromovich? Are you fan of hers? How about Soros/Biden, are you there fan too?

Really, Pull you head out of the sand and quit looking at things in a 'boxed' myopic perspective.

As far as enemies of the US, Russia WAS way down the list. Now they are not, WE forced them into an alliance with Xi, China and Iran. That is totally 100% on us rebuffing them when they sought in good faith to join the west when the wall came down. This is 100% truth, No revisionist spin will change it, At least not before God.

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Whether you agree or not, the Nazi movement in the Ukraine is strong.

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So strong in fact they elected a Jewish president

Hey look, we got biolabs. That's got to be a bingo for today right?

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2. Ukraine as a hub of bio weapons engineering is broken (US Special forces took care of that)

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True, and you think that we have not done the same? Do you really believe we are 'Good and virutous"? Do you think Ukraine is virtuous? Please. Are you for LGBPT ? (or whatever the hell they are using now) How about the occult? Are you for them too. How about Marina Abromovich? Are you fan of hers? How about Soros/Biden, are you there fan too?

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Please take a breath and formulate a coherent argument. Good Lord.

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Hey look, we got biolabs. That's got to be a bingo for today right?

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When things are going especially poorly for the "special operation", you can count on two things:

Threats of nuclear war

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Biolabs

NATO does not intend on inviting Ukraine to the NATO summit in July.

You can fight for us but you aren’t one of us ❤️

— ayden (@squatsons) May 24, 2024

It is probably a good thing they're staying home for this one, from the standpoint of seeing further provocation as a bad.

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Please don't quote a whole post, it makes the thread difficult to read (and I almost never edit a post unless an embed error etc). Just a request, thx.

What your analysis yet again misses is that the CCP is the proxy in charge here, on both sides, Xiden and Putin.
What they want, they get…for now.

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Ok.

Please don't post multiple links and twitter links in a single post. It makes the thread difficult to read. Just a request, thx.

But it makes it easier to obfuscate obvious lies

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The Lord is definitely Good. Please pull your head out of your back side and take a real breath.

If you go back to pages 4 and 5 or so you'll see a lot of the history at least since 1991 laid out/discussed but none of that matters to many.

Sitrep: Zelensky plan for escalation is nearing success.

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Ukraine is now carrying out the slow de-arming and neutralization of Russia's nuclear triad on behalf of NATO, which is an extremely existentially dangerous position for Russia to be in. Thus, Russia is now within its doctrinal rights to respond with nuclear retaliatory forceand Ukraine is just beginning its escalations.

So this is the main reason we are now at a potential crossroads:

Ukraine is poised to potentially ***** Russia badly and now has the demonstrated capability to do so without Russia able to reliably neutralize the threats. If Ukraine gets the go ahead to use ATACMS and perhaps even the Storm Shadows, Taurus, etc., on Russian soilnot counting Crimea, which they've already done as they consider that not to be Russian territorythen all hell could break loose as Russia has not demonstrated the capability to stop the ATACMS reliably, and Ukraine could very well hit extremely sensitive targets that would put Russian command and control at a historic crossroads.

But why has Ukraine suddenly begun to demonstrate such an ability to hit important Russian objects? Answer: mostly because it has poured the remainder of its money toward asymmetric style warfare. You see, none of these attacks damage the real Russian army or change any of the calculus on the ground.

But given that Ukraine knows that nothing it can do will change that, it has wisely decided to pour the remainder of its resources into drones and long range weapons capable of at least shaking things up in very asymmetrical ways.

The goal is clear: Zelensky and co. likely want Russia to respond with tactical nukes. For Zelenskydictator of a country which has already brushed off the world's worst nuclear reactor disaster in Chernobyl, and which cheerily irradiates its own land with Western supplied depleted uranium shellsa small nuclear incident is the tiniest of possible prices to pay for his regime being saved by subsequent NATO intervention.

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The discussion of the overwhelming success on camera of the attack on an S400 battery is lengthy. I realize there are those celebrating/preening about that but I think this could be a quite pyrrhic moment.

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Given all the above, we can extrapolate the following.

Russia continues conditioning the ground for Zelensky's illegitimacy. Lukashenko even said at today's talks that "a lot will happen this year….there are plenty of people in Ukraine both in military and government who would like to take the leadership position."

It's clear the hint is that Russia is preparing the ground for an amenable party to wrest control by way of military coup or otherwise and depose Zelensky. The Yanukovich ploy was very interesting and could merely be a sort of jest between Putin and Lukashenko, i.e. a calculated bit of stagecraft as a symbolic threat to Zelensky, as if to say: "See, we've got the guy you deposed right here and he's ready to take back his seat" merely as a sort of theatrical warning.

Apart from that, despite the glaring seriousness and danger of Zelensky's continued provocations, Russia stands to potentially create a catastrophic situation for the AFU in the near to medium term future with the introduction of new fronts, whether Sumy and/or Belarus. The Sumy rumors continue unabatedthe latest from Ukraine:

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Meanwhile, the enemy continues to declare that our army continues to increase its grouping in the border area of Sumy and Chernigov regions.
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I really think it's interesting Russia is issuing Kharkov license plates, and hope the nuclear talk is just that. The ATACMS can work devastatingly well if fired in an overwhelming salvo clearly, but Ukraine also doesn't have an unlimited inventory. This whole war is a dangerous disaster.

Speculation:

Russian offensive warning.

It occurred to me today that we're presently seeing an "operational convergence" suggesting the Russians are on the verge of launching a major operation in Ukraine. Let me weave together events of the last few days for you.

At the front things have… pic.twitter.com/UVMcLwIjz7

— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) May 25, 2024

On the house cleaning timing: the existence of battle tested leadership now is one of the dimensions where the Russian military machine is much stronger than at the outset of the war.

Well you are witnessing it now.

You see, I believe the chief reason they chose to clean house now, is that unlike 08, 14, 22 or 23, Kremlin now has a large pool of battle-tested, efficient and ambitious officers ready for higher command. pic.twitter.com/At0d2WinVH

— Listening Post (@ListeningP0st) May 25, 2024

Prime Minister Orban: Preparations Under Way in Brussels to Take Europe to War

- Hungary explores "how we can stay within the framework of NATO while not taking part in an action outside of a NATO member state"https://t.co/94ZSJGgiXe

— Glenn Diesen (@Glenn_Diesen) May 24, 2024

Brussels is led/run by the worst people.

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It's no longer 1943. Russia simply can't throw bodies and old rifles at the problem. Modern weapons have evened the playing field and the US and Europe have no issue throwing pennies at the problem while Russia struggles to keep up.

You can stay whatever you want, but Russia absolutely 100% didn't see themselves still stuck in this thing two years later.

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I don't think they did either but here we are and they've adjusted to the fact that it's now a long haul waiting game and they have all the advantages in a war of attrition. Because they can throw bodies at it because they have vastly superior numbers to do so when compared to Ukraine.

Until/unless NATO commits troops to Ukraine, your best case scenario is a perpetual stalemate where Ukraine becomes our 51st state (F* that), or Russia slowly takes territory in a war of attrition.

And therein lies the long term problem. Ukraine hasn't been able to stop Russia, has not been able to make them go back to Russia, only able to slow them down since the counter-offensive stalled.

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This doesn't work in 2024. And per the Reuters article yesterday even the Russians know they can't throw infinite bodies at the problem even if it did. Just like it didn't in Afghanistan.

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This doesn't work in 2024. And per the Reuters article yesterday even the Russians know they can't throw infinite bodies at the problem even if it did. Just like it didn't in Afghanistan.

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If Russia's intent is to hold on to what they have, then yes they absolutely can hold on. They have far more people than Ukraine does. Per geopolitical experts and former officials, Russia has this in the bag as far as not losing territory back to Ukraine.

The only thing left to do is figure out what the compromise is going to be. It will take much escalation on our part to change the calculus here.

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This is simply false and impossible with casualty rates in this war. But then again, if you can't believe Listening Post and his 845 followers who can you believe right?

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If Russia's intent is to hold on to what they have, then yes they absolutely can hold on. They have far more people than Ukraine does. Per geopolitical experts and former officials, Russia has this in the bag as far as not losing territory back to Ukraine.

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I've said for 9 months now that this war is stuck in a stalemate across current lines and I'm glad you agree. We seem to be on the same page here.

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But why has Ukraine suddenly begun to demonstrate such an ability to hit important Russian objects? Answer: mostly because it has poured the remainder of its money toward asymmetric style warfare. You see, none of these attacks damage the real Russian army or change any of the calculus on the ground.

But given that Ukraine knows that nothing it can do will change that, it has wisely decided to pour the remainder of its resources into drones and long range weapons capable of at least shaking things up in very asymmetrical ways.

The goal is clear: Zelensky and co. likely want Russia to respond with tactical nukes. For Zelenskydictator of a country which has already brushed off the world's worst nuclear reactor disaster in Chernobyl, and which cheerily irradiates its own land with Western supplied depleted uranium shellsa small nuclear incident is the tiniest of possible prices to pay for his regime being saved by subsequent NATO intervention.

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This is one of the more hilariously absurd takes that I think I've seen on here.

Let's see - Russia, launches an invasion into a country that never attacked them, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people on both sides and the destruction of cities all over the country - perfectly ok according to simplicus.

Ukraine - fights back against said invasion, including now launching attacks into the country that attacked them. And in this moron's mind, it's because Zelenskyy is trying to get even more of his people killed, and not because Zelenskyy correctly understands that by bringing the fight to Russia he will put pressure on Putin to finally stop the war, as it's indisputable that he is the only person on the planet who controls when the war stops. And based on the leaks this week, it sounds like the pressure is hopefully hitting home and we could see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Simplicus is basically now a just caricature of a Russian troll and nothing he says should be taken seriously. But of course that won't stop his amazing analysis from continually getting posted here.

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Reuters and Teslag "I told you so's" are what doesn't work. And no, Putin isn't capitulating, they are opening 1 or 2 more fronts (Kharkiv and Sumy) while continuing to ramp up weapons/materiel production. Your refusal to acknowledge these facts and make up your own world/lie about what you have read doesn't change any of that. He rebutted the peace along current lines propaganda the same day it came out, as well as pointing out Zelensky is now an illegitimate negotiating partner:

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He further states above that any talks would have to be in accordance with "common sense". This is a very diplomatically 'soft' way of saying: any peace settlement must take into account not only all current battlefield realities, which in practical terms means the territories Russia has already captured must be retained, but also take into account Russia's interests, which primarily revolves around its chief aims of deNazification, demilitarization, neutrality, etc.

In essence, Putin is merely reaffirming that Russia will be open to talks with someone other than Zelensky, and as long as all of Russia's aims are fulfilled. This is obviously a long shot which allows Putin to retain the mien of peacemaker while still knowing that the conflict realistically will press on.

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And on casualties, we only have to extrapolate from the 79th brigade's reported losses to see the UFA is clearly not going to be able to sustain the 'war of attrition' very long:

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Just the 79th brigade alone reports 20 KIA per day, with another 35 WIA. The 59th brigade reports "2-3 dozen" losses per day as they scream desperately for help.

Ukraine is said to have upwards of 100 brigades on the lines. Let's just say they are all suffering a similar 20-40 casualties per day rate, that's 100 x 30 median = 3000 per day. Let's say only about a third of those are KIA, we get 1000 KIA daily all across the front, which is actually precisely what Russian figures show. And this is 1000 x 30 = 30,000 KIA per month, which is exactly what Ukraine is said to be losing, while only mobilizing about 4-6k men per month.

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The attacks on Russia's early warning radar site against nuclear weapons gives reason for concern about US intentions & it may compel Russia to put their strategic nuclear weapons on higher preparedness
https://t.co/WoXsmbbFQk

— Glenn Diesen (@Glenn_Diesen) May 25, 2024

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5 day old BBC article

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn007p39zdzo.amp

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After a high of 90% following the full-scale invasion, today around 65% of Ukrainians still trust President Zelensky to guide them through these times.

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And simplicious even tried to blame Zelensky in a round about way for Chernobyl. Anything to take the eyes off Putin now capitulating and showing pure weakness in the face of insurmountable US aid.

No, it's just BBC propaganda. Far and wide Zelensky is so unpopular, he refuses to even hold an election. Teslag's talking point on repeat doesn't change that basic truth. His absolute abuse of legislative (Rada) members and opposition political parties is blatant and a blight on Europe:

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Misuse of martial law
In power from 2014 to 2019 and now a member of parliament, Poroshenko even went so far as to send a letter, at the end of February, to the European commissioner for neighborhood and enlargement, Oliver Varhelyi, to contest the "misuse" of martial law and war with the aim, in his view, to "cleanse the political field from opposition and isolate it from international communication."

The former head of state, who maintains notoriously hostile relations with his successor, has himself not been allowed to leave the country on at least two occasions. The first time was in December 2023, when he was planning to travel to Poland and the United States. To justify the ban, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) cited the risk of "instrumentalization by the Russians" of a supposed meeting between Poroshenko and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who has been highly critical of Kyiv since the start of the war. The second time, in February 2024, he was unable to attend the Munich security conference.

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Of course, crickets from Biden administration on any of that. But, it's sort of like here, after all, where Trump also isn't allowed to travel or campaign freely.

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Mykola Kniazhytskyi, another MP from Poroshenko's party, believes that the authorities are restricting travel because "they prefer that only pro-president parties talk to foreign politicians because they fear criticism from the opposition."

Kniazhytskyi is one of a handful of Ukrainian opposition MPs campaigning for the creation of a government of national unity, despite the fact that parliamentary and presidential elections have been cancelled due to martial law. However, such initiatives have met with little response from the population, who still firmly support Zelensky despite a decline in his popularity, affected by the long duration of the war.

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So take any propagandized claims as to popularity with a grain of salt, just as we do with elections in North Korea, or Biden 2020, or 2024. This is a country after all, that has openly tortured and killed an American journalist, without any rights of free speech, travel, or religion.

So the BBC, with actual poll numbers, is propaganda but your Twitter link to a completely unrelated North Korean story isn't? Does this one at all least have 845 followers as well?

Ah, wrong link, good catch. Thanks for your first useful contribution.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/03/19/ukrainian-opposition-is-increasingly-critical-of-the-zelensky-administration_6634789_4.html

Have to use archive.is to get to the full one, fyi. Have a nice day.

Again, we already posted the quotes from that Lemond yesterday showing the opposite of what you claim.

We wisely read the link.

Trump is not going to stop financing the war in Ukraine. Most likely step it up.