Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)

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GAC06 said:

How was Austin speaking to that group when he died weeks ago in Ukraine? You posted that here, and this is where we come to avoid propaganda.


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Yet you posted it here two days prior. Just joking I guess
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GAC06 said:

Yet you posted it here two days prior. Just joking I guess


You STILL haven't figured out what the thread title means? Or something else?
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It's the thread where people post stuff they know to be untrue as long as it's from the Russian perspective.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:


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the point is with European and American support dwindling and resolve to keep money into the fight dwindling the responsibility for buying weapons increasingly falls on the Ukes.

I think we all know the posturing will end and congress will pass whatever aid the defense industry wants.


https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-money-congress-weapons-dd5076b30bf8fab5c914a1222186e7f0

Finally we can definitively put away the line

"Nothing I said turned out to be wrong or was wrong at the time" -Teslag

Congress will cave and approve Ukraine funding. So how am I wrong?
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GAC06 said:

It's the thread where people post stuff they know to be untrue as long as it's from the Russian perspective.
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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:


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the point is with European and American support dwindling and resolve to keep money into the fight dwindling the responsibility for buying weapons increasingly falls on the Ukes.

I think we all know the posturing will end and congress will pass whatever aid the defense industry wants.


https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-money-congress-weapons-dd5076b30bf8fab5c914a1222186e7f0

Finally we can definitively put away the line

"Nothing I said turned out to be wrong or was wrong at the time" -Teslag

Congress will cave and approve Ukraine funding. So how am I wrong?


Now is a good time to point out that denial is the 1st stage.

Listen to Lloyd. Its time for other countries to bridge the gap.
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ISW re-tweeting their 1.5 month old series about Ukraine collapsing unless we send billions more;



Pragmatism from war cheerleader Turtle;



The related invasion holding up more money to Saint Zelensky;



I have not previously seen ATGM's on quad copter drones, I am sure I just missed it…



Estonians estimate 140 percent shortfall in artillery shell production to sustain the war this year?

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It is worth mentioning the Uke story of the plane has changed several times now.
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More evolution of drone warfare…







Apparently there are rumors that states 'in rebellion' will not be allowed to cast EC votes in November. Saint Zelensky really was a pioneer in suspending democracy to save it during an invasion.


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Some would assure you that US aid is coming any day now when the time comes.
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Johnson will do what his defense industry donors tell him to do when the time comes
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Teslag said:

Johnson will do what his defense industry donors tell him to do when the time comes


Maybe. One thing is certain: in the meantime, Ukraine will continue to shrink.
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The price of failed wars.



Milley, and before him McAffrey, Miller, Shinseki, Petraeus et al have just drug our military down with horrid leadership at the top.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Johnson will do what his defense industry donors tell him to do when the time comes


Maybe. One thing is certain: in the meantime, Ukraine will continue to shrink.


How will they recover from the inches they lose every day.
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Rob Campbell weekly update: lot's of WW3 fearmongering this week as I guess Russia no longer faces impending collapse?

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George Robertson, former NATO secretary and now member of the British House of Lords, did his duty by warning: 'If the West allows Ukraine to be defeated, then the new world order will be determined by Russia, China and Iran'. Of course, other BRICS countries will also have a say but could they do worse than the evil empire? Robertson said that he is worried that his grandchildren will be uncomfortable living in such a world - which is meant to frighten people into thinking that Russia, China and Iran will actually change our culture - which is more nonsense. He also warnedthat after taking Ukraine, Russia will move on to Kazakhstan, Armenia and Moldova. The bottom line is that the days of the Unipolar World Order are numbered and dear old George is expressing his concerns about that, really.

I wonder if he knows that the great British Army, according to The Times, will be reducing its forces from 76,000 to 68,000 by 2026 and ten years after that it will reduce further to 52,000. This is due in part to a lack of enthusiasm among British youth to earn a living by killing innocent people which, unfortunately, they may be asked to do. But how will this diminutive army fare in the conflicts that some irresponsible military people are anticipating. Could our actions precipitate that which we dread, I wonder? Acting as if war is inevitable may make war inevitable.
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Saunders, who is the head of the UK's armed forces, has suggested that Britain needs a 'citizen army' to fight countries such as Russia. The government reassured the public that it is not planning to bring back conscription. There are only 75,000 full timers in the British Army. 'Taking preparatory steps to enable placing our societies on a war footing when needed are now not merely desirable but essential', he said. Government spokesman, Max Blain, to his credit, suggested that 'engaging in hypothetical wars is not helpful'.
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The Economic War

German Decline
This year, Germany is expected to become one of the weakest countries in the world in terms of economic output. I can't believe they are saying this about Germany.
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With the LNG pause here, Russia certainly got stronger yesterday.
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Maybe someone could stop in to tell us how unimportant this area is.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

With the LNG pause here, Russia certainly got stronger yesterday.
You finally posted something accurate.

Congrats!
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Maybe someone could stop in to tell us how unimportant this area is.

You mean the village of Sinkovka, population 392, which the Russians have been attempting to take for a year? And now, perhaps, control PART of?

It's got to be the second most important place to control in Ukraine, only topped by Kyiv.

This is like watching a football game where the team that has been sucking starts cheering when they get a first down finally.
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Right as I predicted. Thanks for stopping by!

When you read what I said, vs what you think I said: well they are quite different.
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I continue to wonder what 'side' people are cheering/rooting for. Et tu, Brutus?

The Ukrainian people seem to be the clear losers in this protracted war.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Right as I predicted. Thanks for stopping by!

When you read what I said, vs what you think I said: well they are quite different.
Apparently you didn't read what I posted....
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I continue to wonder what 'side' people are cheering/rooting for. Et tu, Brutus?

The Ukrainian people seem to be the clear losers in this protracted war.
Well, every country loses something when they get invaded, even if they repel the invaders.

So, every bit of Ukraine's loss from this war is directly because of Russia and Putin.

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Ag with kids said:

nortex97 said:



I continue to wonder what 'side' people are cheering/rooting for. Et tu, Brutus?

The Ukrainian people seem to be the clear losers in this protracted war.
Well, every country loses something when they get invaded, even if they repel the invaders.

So, every bit of Ukraine's loss from this war is directly because of Russia and Putin.
And proximately 'because of' Biden.

Civil rights law/discrimination law around race are a reasoning parallel. "Because of race."
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nortex97 said:

Ag with kids said:

nortex97 said:



I continue to wonder what 'side' people are cheering/rooting for. Et tu, Brutus?

The Ukrainian people seem to be the clear losers in this protracted war.
Well, every country loses something when they get invaded, even if they repel the invaders.

So, every bit of Ukraine's loss from this war is directly because of Russia and Putin.
And proximately 'because of' Biden.

Civil rights law/discrimination law around race are a reasoning parallel. "Because of race."
No, the gas thing is because of Biden. Biden is a walking Charlie Foxtrot. Lots of ancillary things that have occurred during this war are because of Biden, because, again, he's a walking Charlie Foxtrot.

But the WAR and ALL the deaths and losses are 100% because of Putin and Russia invading Ukraine.

I'm not saying everything has been kosher and copacetic with this war. Biden HAS done dumb stuff.

But the WAR is because Putin wants to get the band back together and by the band I mean the CCCP. He's been making excuses for years - LONG before Biden or even Obama were in office.

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Yes, this is a real issue in the proxy war over Ukraine.





LOL @ Anne Applebaum being big mad at the GOP for not supporting this war as a priority vs. our own invasion;

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David Sacks:

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WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON

Neocons had a problem. The big Spring-Summer Counteroffensive, which was supposed to kick the Russians out of Ukraine, was a miserable failure. Even TIME Magazine was reporting that Zelensky is delusional, the Ukrainians are running out of soldiers, and Ukrainian officials are stealing like there's no tomorrow.

House Republicans, fearing their base, began to have cold feet about throwing more money down this bottomless pit. So Biden and the Neocons came up with a plan: package Ukraine aid with border security. Each side would get want it wants.

But Senate RINOs couldn't help themselves they turned the border security provisions into an amnesty bill.

Meanwhile Biden picked a fight with Texas over what little remains of our border security, reminding Republicans that he can't be trusted to faithfully execute the law. So now the deal has fallen apart.

So what is the Administration to do? There's only ever one answer for that: blame Trump. Supposedly he is responsible for Ukraine losing the war AND the southern border being overrun. In reality, Biden and his handlers have nobody to blame but themselves for both policies.

Shakespeare put it best: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves."


Serial production of the Okhotnik stealthy attack drone is supposed to start as testing is wrapping up.

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The Russian combat drone Okhotnik-B may finally be wrapping up testing, enabling it to enter serial production, according to Sergei Semka, vice-governor of the Novosibirsk Oblast where the drones will be assembled. Semka told media on January 25 that the drone will finish state trials soon, and should go into production at the Sukhoi subsidiary Novosibirsk Aircraft Production Association Plant (NAPO) sometime during the second half of 2024.

Russia has lagged behind its peers in the production of unmanned combat aerial vehicles, or UCAVs, only starting to introduce domestically-designed versions into service in recent years. Procurement of Kronshtadt Group's Orion drone, capable of delivering airstrikes, got underway in 2021. The Russian Ministry of Defense ordered a batch of Altius-RU UCAVs in February 2021.

The S-70 Okhotnik-B, however, has yet to enter serial production, missing several deadlines already. The UCAV was publicly revealed in 2019, when its first prototype made its maiden flight, and it entered weapons testing two years later. At least two prototypes were produced to undergo state testing, which is the final leg of trials before a system is approved for full production.

Ahead of production, Okhotnik made its combat debut in Ukraine in mid-2023, conducting strikes on several locations in Ukraine's Poltava Oblast. It has not been referenced again in Ukraine and nor were any of the prototypes seemingly lost in combat which would suggest its deployment was brief and likely away from the site of major operations, where it could be vulnerable to Ukrainian air-defenses. Russia has tested some of its other new-generation equipment in a similar way, apparently sending T-14 Armata tanks to the front, but only in limited fashion and for only a short period of time before they were withdrawn.

Several weeks after the Okhotnik deployed to Ukraine, a source in the Russian Aerospace Forces command told state media TASS that state trials would conclude before the end of 2023, enabling production for the Army to begin early in 2024. Semka's statement this week suggests that serial deliveries will begin likely no earlier than December 2024, perhaps stretching into 2025.
Not a 'wonder weapon' imho but a large stealthy attack platform as such would be a problem the UFA forces haven't had to really deal with yet.
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It will be interesting to watch as more and more of the fraud is revealed. I suspect we'll never know about the vast majority.
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More conflagration…democrats desperately need a patriotic distraction from the invasion here at home they have orchestrated, as Ukraine continues to become more and more desperate.

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That is awful
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As with BEV batteries, the US relies on the CCP and Russia for key metal in ammo supply chain…

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The US military is almost entirely dependent upon China and Russia for a metal used in many military applications, such as explosives and armor-piercing bullets. The metal is antimony, and China currently owns 53 percent of the world's supply. However, it processes over 80 percent of antimony ore through contracts with other producers. The US's last source of antimony, the Stibnite mine in Idaho, ceased operations in 1997.
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It isn't just the military that relies on antimony, though it does appear insane to import the key element in manufacturing modern military munitions from your most likely adversary; the private sector is also heavily reliant on the metal.
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For example, consider its usage in the high-tech sector, where it is a key ingredient in semi-conductors, circuit boards, electric switches, fluorescent lighting, high quality clear glass and lithium-ion batteries. No antimony, no iPhones. No hi-definition TVs. No modern kitchen appliances, all of which make use of digital circuitry. Oh, and that car you're thinking about buying? Sorry.

Typical…
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I suppose it goes without saying that the most recent escalation by Iran (with widespread cheerleading for a wider war now) to draw the US into the wider war related to Russia's in Ukraine, aka the "Biden Proxy war" is heating up things as I have lamented repeatedly likely to happen in our election season…

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To be quite honest, it's difficult to imagine how this situation could resolve without either a total US withdrawal from the Middle East or a new major war. The problem in both scenarios:

1. If the US withdraws, it will be viewed as the mother of all failures and weaknesses for the Biden administration, akin to the Afghan withdrawal x 100. I have no idea whyit should be viewed that way, when in reality it's a giant win for Americans to disentangle their country from globalist and MIC pursuits, but that's how it will be spun by the totally compromised media which is the enemy of humanity. Most Republican warhawks will of course agree and stoke this interpretation as well, as they're on the MIC payroll.


2. If Biden escalates and orders major strikes on Iran itself as Lindsey Graham and others are now cheerleading for, it could lead to an escalatory cascade that would shut down the entire region by engulfing it in flames, crashing the world economy to new levels, which would be a massive shock to any establishment re-election chances this year.

Don't even bother thinking about boots on the ground, if such a thing was possible it would take a year or more of preparation. Remember the Iraq invasion required 6 months just of transporting materiel and assets to the region, staging them, etc. But Iran wouldn't let you stage them because it has far more sophisticated modern ballistic systems than anything Iraq had, which means large troop concentrations and armor/materiel staging areas could be hit and wiped out long before zero hour. Don't believe me? Just watch the video at the beginning, the US army general says it himself toward the end: he states the accuracy of Iran's ballistic missiles was shocking and they hit "pretty much everything they wanted to hit."

So ground invasion is outthat's not happening. The only thing they could possibly attempt is a long-spanning aerial campaign. But to even remotely scratch Iran's capabilities would require a vast campaign lasting minimum 6-12 months and probably much longer. Remember, all of NATO mustered for 3 months against little Serbia with 6 million people and barely managed to destroy anything of worth. Iran has a 90 million population and a country probably a hundred times the size of Serbia, not to mention a far larger military. How long do you think it would take NATO to even put a dent in that from only an aerial campaign?

In short: it would take years, and during those years, Iran would shut down every major maritime and economic chokepoint in the region, crashing the global economy. If you thought a few ships being hit now was bad, wait til you see the nominal Iranian forces rather than Houthis hitting everything in sightit won't be pretty. And I've beaten the point before about how difficult it would be to even find targets in the decentralized vastness of Iran, just like in Yemen.
Fortunately I agree we lack the ground forces to conduct a full retaliatory invasion of Iran. Still, Biden's weakness and lack of practical or strategic coherence have opened the door to a much wider global conflict both kinetically and logistically:

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I think US will continue looking for a diplomatic solution, as it knows how indigestible both of the options above really are. It will continue looking for ways to de-escalate, perhaps even advancing the talks of withdrawal from the region so as to signal to Iran that it's backing out, though perhaps dragging their feet in the process to make the 'pull out' as drawn out as possible and more symbolic in nature.

The US looks weaker than ever so of course a token strike of a kind is possible, to signal some impotent brawn to its now demoralized partners. But this won't accomplish anything and will only put US troops in the region in increasing danger.

The truth is, the entire current framework looks highly orchestrated between the resistance axis, particularly of Russia, Iran, and perhaps China. The reason is that just as Russia tied up the Empire in Ukraine, Iran began its strangulation maneuver in the Mid East, and look how 'elegantly' it's all working out: Europe is being entirely cut off from cheap energy while Russia and BRICS gain not only some of the most powerful energy producers but also the countries responsible for the most important maritime chokepoints; i.e. Egypt and the Suez/Red Sea; Ethiopia and the Red Sea; Iran and Saudi Arabia for the Red Sea and Persian Gulf, etc.

Now, suddenly what do we hear? Major moves being made by Russia to put the Arctic in a chokehold, securing another key corridor:
Calls for 'all out' war are widening;



Anyway, all of this is why it's tragic Biden-leadership at State (ahem, Nuland) torpedoed efforts to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine almost 2 years ago this spring. Such dangerous people. More at the link.

Russian advances;



War sirens;







Forever war, comrades!

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Considering there's about 40,000 inches in a KM, I think we need a new unit of measurement for quantifying Russian gains. "Inches per day" is starting to look like Uke cope.
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