PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

It doesn't count unless CNN, Oryx, ISW, and MSNBC cover it.

Russia’s UN delegation has demanded an explanation from the Czech Republic regarding the supply of Czech-made "Vampire" missiles to Kyiv that Moscow says were used in today's deadly attack on Belgorod. https://t.co/vtlZqHkpYL

— Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) December 30, 2023

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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We used nukes against a country that started a war on our shores and attacked us.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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It doesn't count unless CNN, Oryx, ISW, and MSNBC cover it.

Russia’s UN delegation has demanded an explanation from the Czech Republic regarding the supply of Czech-made "Vampire" missiles to Kyiv that Moscow says were used in today's deadly attack on Belgorod. https://t.co/vtlZqHkpYL

— Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) December 30, 2023

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This is impossible. I was assured by Armchair Bebo the Thinker that the EU countries had abandoned Ukraine and stopped supplying them with aid.

The War of 1812 was caused by the cessation of trade between the United States and namely France and Great Britain. France and England were at war during the Napoleonic Wars.

We invaded British Canada for timber and American ego.
This caused the British to retaliate.

They also saw the US expansionism as a threat to their establishment. Was the US going to literally take over Mexico and all of South America, including British islands in the Western Hemisphere? No.

And the same basic thing is happening with Eastern Orthodox Russia being blocked by Western powers over a pipeline and farmland. This isn't communist Russia.
They don't want to expand into Europe. This is hogwash thinking. Russians enjoy drinking vodka and being Russian.
I believe this has always been the case.
Now China? China is a different story. They are untethered from Christian influence in their government and I fear them in valid economic reasons as well.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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War is hell. And this war wouldn't be happening if Putin didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. Still strange that you seem to blame literally anyone else besides Putin.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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We used nukes against a country that started a war on our shores and attacked us.

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After dropping leaflets for weeks telling civilians to leave. You've shown you're a fool by comparing the two.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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We used nukes against a country that started a war on our shores and attacked us.

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After dropping leaflets for weeks telling civilians to leave. You've shown you're a fool by comparing the two.

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Except this isn't the first time Belgorod has been hit. And we didn't drop leaflets telling them anything different than we had every other bombing campaign.

Every citizen that died in Belgorod is dead because Putin invaded Ukraine.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Right. Russia was provoked with Nazis or something and Ukraine wanting to join a defensive pact for who knows why.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Ah yes Ukraine provoked this by…existing next to Russia.

Simple question (and I know you have trouble with y/n questions since you couldn't answer whether or not you were hoping Russia wins), would these cluster munitions be in use had Putin not decided to invade?

He believes that Ukraine should have got permission from Russia before they make decisions for themselves and therefore deserved to be invaded and their citizens killed in missile strikes.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Ah yes Ukraine provoked this by…existing next to Russia.

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You didn't answer my question. Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

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He believes that Ukraine should have got permission from Russia before they make decisions for themselves and therefore deserved to be invaded and their citizens killed in missile strikes.

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Strawman.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Ah yes Ukraine provoked this by…existing next to Russia.

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You didn't answer my question. Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

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Why should he? You never answer anyone else's.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Ah yes Ukraine provoked this by…existing next to Russia.

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You didn't answer my question. Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

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Only a moron (or Russian sycophant) would think Ukraine provoked this. Does that answer your question?

Would you like to answer mine? Here I'll paste it again for you, should be pretty easy to answer:

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Simple question (and I know you have trouble with y/n questions since you couldn't answer whether or not you were hoping Russia wins), would these cluster munitions be in use had Putin not decided to invade?

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I'm still not finding any legit source that says Ukraine used cluster munitions on Belgorod.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Ah yes Ukraine provoked this by…existing next to Russia.

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You didn't answer my question. Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

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Only a moron (or Russian sycophant) would think Ukraine provoked this. Does that answer your question?

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No it does not. Let's try again. Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Ah yes Ukraine provoked this by…existing next to Russia.

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You didn't answer my question. Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

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Only a moron (or Russian sycophant) would think Ukraine provoked this. Does that answer your question?

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No it does not. Let's try again. Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

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It's making more sense now, you're not smart enough to understand someone calling you a moron.

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The War of 1812 was caused by the cessation of trade between the United States and namely France and Great Britain. France and England were at war during the Napoleonic Wars.

We invaded British Canada for timber and American ego.
This caused the British to retaliate.

They also saw the US expansionism as a threat to their establishment. Was the US going to literally take over Mexico and all of South America, including British islands in the Western Hemisphere? No.

And the same basic thing is happening with Eastern Orthodox Russia being blocked by Western powers over a pipeline and farmland. This isn't communist Russia.
They don't want to expand into Europe. This is hogwash thinking. Russians enjoy drinking vodka and being Russian.
I believe this has always been the case.
Now China? China is a different story. They are untethered from Christian influence in their government and I fear them in valid economic reasons as well.

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Excellent post. Strengthening their alliance/block economically and militarily, as well as politically against the US and Europe is absolute insanity.

A day after Russian missile strikes on Kyiv, Odesa, Dnipro etc killed at least 39 Ukrainian civilians and injured at least 159, Ukraine hits the Russian city of Belgorod with a rocket barrage. Footage from Russian Telegram channels. pic.twitter.com/woW6CKucON

— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) December 30, 2023

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Ukraine's armed forces have lost up to 350 personnel in the Donetsk area over 24 hours, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

According to its statement, the Ukrainian losses amounted to 350 troops killed and wounded, two armored vehicles and six pick-up trucks. Counterbattery work has wiped out a M777 artillery system and a US-made Paladin self-propelled howitzer.

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Very soon Russia will revoke the acknowledgment of sovereign status of Ukraine. It will be regarded as terrorist entity without any legal right to exist. Today’s missile strike against civil population of Belgorod and especislly children is last drop.

— Alexander Dugin (@Agdchan) December 30, 2023

Russia asked for emergency UN Security Council meeting today at 3 pm EST. We also insist on the presence of Czech PR to the UN to explain why this country’s ammunition is being used for killing civilians in Belgorod https://t.co/wQYDnfvW3z

— Dmitry Polyanskiy 🇺🇳 (@Dpol_un) December 30, 2023

This is why we needed to stop funding/sending weapons to Zelensky nearly 2 years ago, instead of deliberately provoking Putin. But with China running the White House…

Russia and their proxy's are squealing over Ukraine allegedly doing to Russia what Russia has been doing to Ukraine for years? Say it ain't so.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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You've been defending Russia this entire time and they've attacked civilians since this "SMO" began. And yet you NEVER call out the Russians for it.

So...I don't think you really care about any dead civilians.

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Russia and their proxy's are squealing over Ukraine allegedly doing to Russia what Russia has been doing to Ukraine for years? Say it ain't so.

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Toddler mentality.

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I'm still not finding any legit source that says Ukraine used cluster munitions on Belgorod.

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I'm sure Lord Bebo or Armchair Warlord will tell you it happened. They never lie.

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Russia and their proxy's are squealing over Ukraine allegedly doing to Russia what Russia has been doing to Ukraine for years? Say it ain't so.

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Toddler mentality.

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Was Russia wrong to purposely target Ukrainian civilians prior to this attack on Belgorod? Yes or no.

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Ukraine's armed forces have lost up to 350 personnel in the Donetsk area over 24 hours, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

According to its statement, the Ukrainian losses amounted to 350 troops killed and wounded, two armored vehicles and six pick-up trucks. Counterbattery work has wiped out a M777 artillery system and a US-made Paladin self-propelled howitzer.

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More sharing I see…

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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You've been defending Russia this entire time and they've attacked civilians since this "SMO" began. And yet you NEVER call out the Russians for it.

So...I don't think you really care about any dead civilians.

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He will literally defend every single thing Russia does. But don't you dare say they support them.

Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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We used nukes against a country that started a war on our shores and attacked us.

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After dropping leaflets for weeks telling civilians to leave. You've shown you're a fool by comparing the two.

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Except this isn't the first time Belgorod has been hit. And we didn't drop leaflets telling them anything different than we had every other bombing campaign.

Every citizen that died in Belgorod is dead because Putin invaded Ukraine.

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Apparently Russia is allowed to blow up **** in Ukraine, but Ukraine must resist blowing up **** in Russia?

Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Now that Ukraine is confirmed to have used cluster munitions on civilians we should surely expect our pearl clutching Uke cheerleader section to condemn this "heinous war crime.*"

Don't hold your breath, though.

*its only a war crime when Russia does it , or something.

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They wouldn't be using them if Russia didn't decide to launch an unprovoked invasion. And if Russia doesn't like it they can go home whenever they want.

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Right on cue they defend attacking civilians. Remember this when Russia retaliates and they show up here again to cry and whine and moan about how evil Putin is. Not serious posters. Not serious people.

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an unprovoked invasion.

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Lying on purpose or just telling us you're ignorant?

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Right. Russia was provoked with Nazis or something and Ukraine wanting to join a defensive pact for who knows why.

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Why would they ever want or need to join a defensive pact? When have they ever been invaded?

Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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GAC06 said:

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Russia and their proxy's are squealing over Ukraine allegedly doing to Russia what Russia has been doing to Ukraine for years? Say it ain't so.

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Toddler mentality.

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Was Russia wrong to purposely target Ukrainian civilians prior to this attack on Belgorod? Yes or no.

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Yes. Neither Russia nor Ukraine should be blowing up civilians. This should not be a controversial opinion.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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GAC06 said:

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Russia and their proxy's are squealing over Ukraine allegedly doing to Russia what Russia has been doing to Ukraine for years? Say it ain't so.

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Toddler mentality.

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Was Russia wrong to purposely target Ukrainian civilians prior to this attack on Belgorod? Yes or no.

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Yes. Neither Russia nor Ukraine should be blowing up civilians. This should not be a controversial opinion.

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Then Russia could just GTFO of Ukraine and we wouldn't have this issue, now would we?

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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GAC06 said:

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Russia and their proxy's are squealing over Ukraine allegedly doing to Russia what Russia has been doing to Ukraine for years? Say it ain't so.

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Toddler mentality.

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Was Russia wrong to purposely target Ukrainian civilians prior to this attack on Belgorod? Yes or no.

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Yes. Neither Russia nor Ukraine should be blowing up civilians. This should not be a controversial opinion.

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Then Russia could just GTFO of Ukraine and we wouldn't have this issue, now would we?

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Thats not a condemnation of attacks against civilians. You've lost the moral high ground you never had.

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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GAC06 said:

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Russia and their proxy's are squealing over Ukraine allegedly doing to Russia what Russia has been doing to Ukraine for years? Say it ain't so.

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Toddler mentality.

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Was Russia wrong to purposely target Ukrainian civilians prior to this attack on Belgorod? Yes or no.

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Yes. Neither Russia nor Ukraine should be blowing up civilians. This should not be a controversial opinion.

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So why did it take you three days condemn Russias attacks instead of using it as proof of being a key part of Russias offensive just yesterday?