J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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You havent been paying attention. Several times Putin has laid out what he needs before he can go home. Its not my fault you didn't listen.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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"They" are abducting people off the streets, the elites/wealthy are wholly exempt, yet also they are including the elderly, people without bladders, ******ed etc. They are trying to extradite those who have left.

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According to?

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The videos and links to their legislation and negotiations are posted up thread, hth. It's common knowledge. Extradition has been debated hotly but Estonia is apparently going to be first.

You hopefully have an ability to look up the mobilization law Zelensky approved (vs. what Zaluzhny said was requested): are people without bladders exempt, or not? Do you have a source?

📝🇺🇦⚔️🇷🇺New draconian law on mobilization:

Ukrainians will be disenfranchised for failing to appear at the military registration and enlistment office (but at least alive)

During mobilization, all citizens of Ukraine (no gender division) from 18 to 60 years old must have…

— Olga Bazova (@OlgaBazova) December 25, 2023

There are copious videos about the conscription/recruiting 'tactics' if you stray outside a certain bubble of propaganda:

🔴🇷🇺⚔🇺🇦🗣Ukrainian woman fights recruiters who were taking her husband to war.

🔹️She clung to the ambulance used for forced recruitment.#RussiaUkraineWar #Zelensky #NEWS #Putin #Urgent #UkraineWar pic.twitter.com/3Ou9WwXf9h

— StandZ🇷🇺 (@JoaoRuchert) December 22, 2023

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Tthere is now video of a Ukrainian soldier with down syndrome in the trenches making the rounds. Is there precedent in international law for this?

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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You havent been paying attention. Several times Putin has laid out what he needs before he can go home. Its not my fault you didn't listen.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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You havent been paying attention. Several times Putin has laid out what he needs before he can go home. Its not my fault you didn't listen.

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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You havent been paying attention. Several times Putin has laid out what he needs before he can go home. Its not my fault you didn't listen.

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If he hasn't got what he needs then by definition he hasn't won.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

Quote:

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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You havent been paying attention. Several times Putin has laid out what he needs before he can go home. Its not my fault you didn't listen.

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Thanks for finally confirming Putin is 100% responsible for the war and every death that happens because of it. I know that was hard for you but happy we can all agree.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

Quote:

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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You havent been paying attention. Several times Putin has laid out what he needs before he can go home. Its not my fault you didn't listen.

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If he hasn't got what he needs then by definition he hasn't won.

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Except the outcome is determined.

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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Except that he's literally been wrong about everything from start he's totally credible, and openly supporting Russia, Iran, and China.

And I'm sure the Russian terrorist attack targeting civilians, which has you gleeful over, will be discussed on that thread. As all Russian terrorist attacks are.

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Ukraine sinks Russia's boat = FA

Russia strikes back = FO

This is still an active war until Uke decides its had enough.

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Just as a reminder, you conveniently forgot to answer the question. Seems like a simple choice.

Quote:

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Do you want Russia to win? Yes or no

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Russia already has.

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Thanks for answering. Happy we cleared up that you are rooting for the country 100% responsible for every death in this war.

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And if Russia has "won" why are they still fighting? Why are they not in control of Ukraines four largest cities?

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Because Ukraine decides when the fighting stops. The outcome was determined when the counter offensive stalled.

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That's not how invasions work. Russia is in full control of whether this war is happening or not, just like they have been since they launched the unprovoked invasion in the first place.

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You havent been paying attention. Several times Putin has laid out what he needs before he can go home. Its not my fault you didn't listen.

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If he hasn't got what he needs then by definition he hasn't won.

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Except the outcome is determined.

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How is it determined if Russia is completely unable to mount an offensive? By your own admission their greatest achievement in 18 months is taking an abandoned village they've fought for since 2014.

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Literally a terrorist attack. pic.twitter.com/S7UlPxZmmT

— Andrew Perpetua (@AndrewPerpetua) December 29, 2023

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Russia has been lobbing missiles into apartment buildings for almost two years.

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So Russia is going to mount an offensive and take ground by hitting residential buildings hundred of miles from the front?

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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So Russia is going to mount an offensive and take ground by hitting residential buildings hundred of miles from the front?

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Oh you thought Russia got a rocket in that low at that angle? Feel free to tell us how. After you do that I'll show you the video.

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Teslag said:

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Teslag said:

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So Russia is going to mount an offensive and take ground by hitting residential buildings hundred of miles from the front?

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Oh you thought Russia got a rocket in that low at that angle? Feel free to tell us how. After you do that I'll show you the video.

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So Russia is going to mount an offensive and take ground with errant Ukrainian ada?

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I should add that this is not true for every type of missile. Inventories for some, such as short-range ballistic 9K720 Iskander and Kalibr cruise missiles are much smaller than they were on Feb 22

— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) December 29, 2023

China's defense ministry lashed out at the United States on Thursday, a week after their top military officials resumed high-level talks, criticizing its continued meddling in the Asia Pacific region and saying it maintained a "Cold War" mindset. #Velsig https://t.co/xHrmWw56iD

— Velina Tchakarova (@vtchakarova) December 29, 2023

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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Russia has been lobbing missiles into apartment buildings for almost two years.

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You can watch the video of Uke AD hitting that building. Friendly fire has been turned on and Uke can't stop the X22. But you don't know any of this because as I said, you're not paying attention, and no one in the tactical thread is talking about it, because its not a serious place for news and updates, its a cheerleading section. Thats why you're here now.

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Teslag said:

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How will Ukraine be much smaller? Russia had to claw and scrape for bakhmut, and they did that with a Pmc that's largely been disbanded. They don't have the equipment to take anything more.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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How will Ukraine be much smaller? Russia had to claw and scrape for bakhmut, and they did that with a Pmc that's largely been disbanded. They don't have the equipment to take anything more.

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Who remembers? I remember

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Ukraine now.
A large European nation is being bombed into the stone age as bored high-minded pseudo-intellectuals keep playing a Kissinger in what they imagine as Realpolitik 5D chess in op-eds. pic.twitter.com/3e2SKbYMgP

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) December 29, 2023

Only slightly more horrifying than the ghouls who will defend this in public - or turn their eyes away from the nation-destroying casualties that have led Ukraine to this juncture, and lie that Zelensky's war is going swimmingly and victory is in sight.

It is, emphatically, not. https://t.co/vlGfYDaJ6T

— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) December 30, 2023

Europe needs to rediscover strategic autonomy and not follow the US off the cliff pic.twitter.com/Og21EY5eZG

— Glenn Diesen (@Glenn_Diesen) December 29, 2023

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The Economist: Russian missiles have destroyed factories producing shells and drones for the AFU

As the publication writes, citing a source in the Ukrainian defense industry, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation aimed at defense facilities, and, apparently, successfully. Russian missiles destroyed the AFU infrastructure in several regions of Ukraine.

"The attacks had strategic significance for the enemy to reduce our ability to strike. This is a battle for who can destroy more of the enemy's long-range weapons," the reporters' interlocutor said.
At the same time, a source in the Ukrainian General Staff assures that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will attack Crimea more often in winter.

But of course, according to Zelensky and every Ukrainian alive, Russia is deliberately targeting civilians. Ukrainian civilians would be a lot safer had it not been for Ukrainian AD in the middle of densely populated areas.

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In 2020 the plant declared it had modernized 400 vehicles. Of those 162 had been T-64BV Obr. 2017 and 88 T-80BV for the airborne units. Which mean the plant had the highest capacity of all three, managing to achieve a pace of 80 hulls per year.

— Shaimuratov (@Shaimurato13576) December 29, 2023

Lvov tank factory recieved 3 hits,but @Shaimurato13576 was wrong,not Gerans visulited it,but KH-32s and KH-101s pic.twitter.com/w7Phg18vEF

— Gammon (@GammonBadge) December 29, 2023

🇷🇺 Scouts destroyed a special group of NATO mercenaries near Avdeevka!
During the night's fighting, our fighters defeated an English-speaking enemy unit attempting to attack our positions. There was at least one Ukrainian with the foreign fighters. Our brothers got a GoPro camera… pic.twitter.com/EaUIqT36A9

— -- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 -- (@GeromanAT) December 30, 2023

🇬🇧🇷🇺🇺🇦🚨‼️ BREAKING: British “volunteer” found dead in Ukraine after she called out the Ukrainian army!

She said: “They steal our cars, our salaries, our weapons”

What a “coincidence” … pic.twitter.com/q3gDyN9LGR

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) December 30, 2023

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Only slightly more horrifying than the ghouls who will defend this in public - or turn their eyes away from the nation-destroying casualties that have led Ukraine to this juncture, and lie that Zelensky's war is going swimmingly and victory is in sight.

It is, emphatically, not. https://t.co/vlGfYDaJ6T

— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) December 30, 2023

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I wouldn't say "solely"--there are plenty in Washington who are helping to sustain this. They didn't actually start it, but have been at work to egg it on...

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Hungary’s Prime Minister vs the President of France.

What a contrast in ideology and vision for the future of Europe. https://t.co/fKnwqZsZBq

— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) December 30, 2023

So true - even with the existence of elemental evil the #WEF.... pic.twitter.com/SrvTSV0tzG

— Ivor Cummins (@FatEmperor) December 30, 2023

🇺🇦🇷🇺🚨‼️ Ukraine shells the city Belgorod today with cluster munitions, as a retaliation.

This is the latest moment, when Ukraine lost any moral highground it had.

The amount of casualties rose to 40.

1/ pic.twitter.com/pZEIBLUjRs

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) December 30, 2023

🇨🇳🚨‼️ In case you wonder what you could do with your country, if you don’t send money to fund wars.

Build a ton of infrastructure to enable more economic growth! pic.twitter.com/NOkNOtyATt

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) December 30, 2023