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War comes down to numbers. If you have "400k" soldiers total and you lose 100k in an offensive how many more do you have to defend? Is that 300k as effective to defend Ukr than if they had the 400k?

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This isn't 1943. Sheer numbers of bodies are meaningless.

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And if Putin had not sent his armies over the Ukrainian border in February of 2022 then none of that is an issue. All would have remained at peace. Thousands upon thousands of lives spared. But Putin wanted land*.









*Per Nortex' source yesterday that said Russia will want to move further west and capture both Odessa and Kiev. His source, not mine.

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again with your false assertion this war has been about land. Capturing strategic cities in a hot war is not a cassus belli.

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War comes down to numbers. If you have "400k" soldiers total and you lose 100k in an offensive how many more do you have to defend? Is that 300k as effective to defend Ukr than if they had the 400k?

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This isn't 1943. Sheer numbers of bodies are meaningless.

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How was your trip to America, President Zelensky?

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And if Putin had not sent his armies over the Ukrainian border in February of 2022 then none of that is an issue. All would have remained at peace. Thousands upon thousands of lives spared. But Putin wanted land*.









*Per Nortex' source yesterday that said Russia will want to move further west and capture both Odessa and Kiev. His source, not mine.

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again with your false assertion this war has been about land. Capturing strategic cities in a hot war is not a cassus belli.

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You're right. It was about "de-nazifying" or whatever the hell that means.

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Maybe Putin will denazify Canada next.

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To confirm, your position is that you are okay with Americans suffering as long as we support Ukraine to fight Putin?

And that we should accept this suffering as it is a consequence of Putin being a bad guy half way around the world from us?

The fact that for the better part of 2 years neither you nor anyone else supporting our involvement can explain why this is good for American sittings without settling squarely on Putin bad, Russia bad, must kill Russians.

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Who is suffering? Did you have to adjust your thermostat? That is the typical problem with America. Everyone wants to blame stuff on other people or the government and not take any responsibility themselves. A lot of people don't want to work anymore. They just want to sit at home, smoke weed and get handouts. I don't feel sorry for any of them one bit. There is plenty of opportunity for anyone to better themselves. They just choose not to put the work in.

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To confirm, your position is that you are okay with Americans suffering as long as we support Ukraine to fight Putin?

And that we should accept this suffering as it is a consequence of Putin being a bad guy half way around the world from us?

The fact that for the better part of 2 years neither you nor anyone else supporting our involvement can explain why this is good for American sittings without settling squarely on Putin bad, Russia bad, must kill Russians.

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Who is suffering? Did you have to adjust your thermostat? That is the typical problem with America. Everyone wants to blame stuff on other people or the government and not take any responsibility themselves. A lot of people don't want to work anymore. They just want to sit at home, smoke weed and get handouts. I don't feel sorry for any of them one bit. There is plenty of opportunity for anyone to better themselves. They just choose not to put the work in.

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You don't think our energy policies regarding Ukraine aren't working to hurt the working poor in the US?

You don't think massive spending isn't causing inflation on the price of milk, beef, TVs?

You don't think the price of bread isn't affected by the 2nd largest wheat producer struggling ot produce its yield in wartime

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To confirm, your position is that you are okay with Americans suffering as long as we support Ukraine to fight Putin?

And that we should accept this suffering as it is a consequence of Putin being a bad guy half way around the world from us?

The fact that for the better part of 2 years neither you nor anyone else supporting our involvement can explain why this is good for American sittings without settling squarely on Putin bad, Russia bad, must kill Russians.

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Who is suffering? Did you have to adjust your thermostat? That is the typical problem with America. Everyone wants to blame stuff on other people or the government and not take any responsibility themselves. A lot of people don't want to work anymore. They just want to sit at home, smoke weed and get handouts. I don't feel sorry for any of them one bit. There is plenty of opportunity for anyone to better themselves. They just choose not to put the work in.

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You don't think our energy policies regarding Ukraine aren't working to hurt the working poor in the US?

You don't think massive spending isn't causing inflation on the price of milk, beef, TVs?

You don't think the price of bread isn't affected by the 2nd largest wheat producer unable to produce any meaningful yield in wartime.

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Maybe to some extent but I don't think as much as you believe. I also believe that a lot of those people are still spending money on alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc. I see it all the time. And yes I have a hard time feeling sorry for people are crying about things when a lot of their money is being spent on that kind of crap. It's all about choices.

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Maybe to some extent but I don't think as much as you believe. I also believe that a lot of those people are still spending money on alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc. I see it all the time. And yes I have a hard time feeling sorry for people are crying about things when a lot of their money is being spent on that kind of crap.

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I think your caricature of struggling Americans is a pretty poor one. Not everyone who is affected by gas prices are buying lotto tickets and drinking daily
Pretty much the entire middle class is running out of money and only the upper middle class are staying afloat, but even they are feeling the pinch of this economy thanks to the state of the real estate market.

But it's dishonest to say "well Americans aren't on A-rations therefore it doesn't effect them." You can say that's a hyperbolic assessment of your position, but so was "did you adjust your thermostat because of Ukraine?"

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To confirm, your position is that you are okay with Americans suffering as long as we support Ukraine to fight Putin?

And that we should accept this suffering as it is a consequence of Putin being a bad guy half way around the world from us?

The fact that for the better part of 2 years neither you nor anyone else supporting our involvement can explain why this is good for American sittings without settling squarely on Putin bad, Russia bad, must kill Russians.

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Who is suffering? Did you have to adjust your thermostat? That is the typical problem with America. Everyone wants to blame stuff on other people or the government and not take any responsibility themselves. A lot of people don't want to work anymore. They just want to sit at home, smoke weed and get handouts. I don't feel sorry for any of them one bit. There is plenty of opportunity for anyone to better themselves. They just choose not to put the work in.

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You don't think our energy policies regarding Ukraine aren't working to hurt the working poor in the US?

You don't think massive spending isn't causing inflation on the price of milk, beef, TVs?

You don't think the price of bread isn't affected by the 2nd largest wheat producer unable to produce any meaningful yield in wartime.

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Maybe to some extent but I don't think as much as you believe. I also believe that a lot of those people are still spending money on alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc. I see it all the time. And yes I have a hard time feeling sorry for people are crying about things when a lot of their money is being spent on that kind of crap. It's all about choices.

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This might be one of the worst takes in the history of TexAgs. So we should spend money on Ukraine and not on Americans because your belief is that Americans are wasting their money on ETOH, nicotine and THC and not on gas, groceries, housing and utilities.

This has to be a troll. No one can try to claim that is some sort of logical take.

Send money to Ukes because Americans in need are worthless pothead drunks who smoke.

Wine club members are still allowed to ***** about riding energy prices. That was an absurd assertion.

Did docb go by another pseudonym?

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Maybe to some extent but I don't think as much as you believe. I also believe that a lot of those people are still spending money on alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc. I see it all the time. And yes I have a hard time feeling sorry for people are crying about things when a lot of their money is being spent on that kind of crap.

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I think your caricature of struggling Americans is a pretty poor one. Not everyone who is affected by gas prices are buying lotto tickets and drinking daily
Pretty much the entire middle class is running out of money and only the upper middle class are staying afloat, but even they are feeling the pinch of this economy thanks to the state of the real estate market.

But it's dishonest to say "well Americans aren't on A-rations therefore it doesn't effect them." You can say that's a hyperbolic assessment of your position, but so was "did you adjust your thermostat because of Ukraine?"

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It's across the board dude. I live in an affluent neighborhood and as soon as the economy turns sour for sale signs pop up. People are living beyond their means all throughout our country at all levels. That is probably a whole other discussion.

Not sure why this thread has drawn so much attention today.

Slovakian elections could impact Nato support for Kiev:



Kind of off-beat take from RT: Russia's victory in Ukraine will eventually lead to it aligning with the EU and US.

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Geopolitical hallucinations are no less important in the current redistribution of the world than they were in the days of Vasco da Gama. And it is not so important whether the strategists in Washington dreamed that they saw an embroidered shirt with the words "In hoc signo vinces (By this sign, conquer)". Or whether the planners in Berlin imagined that "as always," with their allegedly peculiar "German pedantry," they had resolutely sorted everything out and foreseen everything. Or all of them together considered Ukraine to be the kingdom of Prester John, a wonderful foreign country, ready for anything, that would help them.

No, not for a while. No, "not on our watch." The chance to create a Great Northern Alliance was lost in the early 2000s when our president suggested to the Americans that Russia should be considered for NATO membership. The proposal was rejected. Most likely because of the fear that within the new security contour Moscow would be able to challenge Washington's hegemony and snatch away the levers of influence of the 'junior' members of the Alliance.

Such offers are not made twice. The US continues to live with its chronic phobias and delusions. The EU is not yet independent and remains an enlarged version of the Bizone, the American and British occupation zones in post-war West Germany.

The path of Americans and Western Europeans from paranoia to metanoia is long and winding, and it will not be long before they mature into the right world. But not soon is not never.

The Great North is neither utopia nor dystopia; it will be neither an idyll nor a dystopia. It will be full of contradictions yet obsessed with the unifying idea of collective leadership.
A common future is prefigured by common roots.

The three major northern civilizations, Russian, Western European, and American, draw inspiration for their political development from the image of the Pax Romana. The word of the Elder Philotheus of Pskov still guides Russia. The European Union has proclaimed Charlemagne, the 'Emperor of the Romans', as its forefather. Washington's most famous hill is named after the legendary Capitol.

The source code of these three metacultures is embedded in the Iliad and the Gospel. Their kinship is obvious.

Our victory will change us as well as the so-called West. It will be a new step towards the integration of the Great North, where our country will act as a co-leader of the global triumvirate.

The evil of this day will be replaced by creation. And that will be the merit not so much of the politicians of the future, but of Homer and St. Mark.

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Robert Gates essay I think deserves some consideration:

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The United States now confronts graver threats to its security than it has in decades, perhaps ever. Never before has it faced four allied antagonists at the same timeRussia, China, North Korea, and Iranwhose collective nuclear arsenal could within a few years be nearly double the size of its own. Not since the Korean War has the United States had to contend with powerful military rivals in both Europe and Asia. And no one alive can remember a time when an adversary had as much economic, scientific, technological, and military power as China does today.

The problem, however, is that at the very moment that events demand a strong and coherent response from the United States, the country cannot provide one. Its fractured political leadershipRepublican and Democratic, in the White House and in Congresshas failed to convince enough Americans that developments in China and Russia matter. Political leaders have failed to explain how the threats posed by these countries are interconnected. They have failed to articulate a long-term strategy to ensure that the United States, and democratic values more broadly, will prevail.

Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin have much in common, but two shared convictions stand out. First, each is convinced that his personal destiny is to restore the glory days of his country's imperial past. For Xi, this means reclaiming imperial China's once dominant role in Asia while harboring even greater ambitions for global influence. For Putin, it means pursuing an awkward mixture of reviving the Russian Empire and recapturing the deference that was accorded the Soviet Union. Second, both leaders are convinced that the developed democraciesabove all, the United Statesare past their prime and have entered an irreversible decline. This decline, they believe, is evident in these democracies' growing isolationism, political polarization, and domestic disarray.

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PUTIN'S GAMBLE

"Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire," Zbigniew Brzezinski, the political scientist and former U.S. national security adviser, once observed. Putin certainly shares that view. In pursuit of Russia's lost empire, he invaded Ukraine in 2014 and again in 2022with the latter adventure turning out to be a catastrophic miscalculation with devastating long-term consequences for his country. Rather than dividing and weakening NATO, Russia's actions have given the alliance new purpose (and, in Finland and, soon, Sweden, powerful new members). Strategically, Russia is far worse off now than it was before the invasion.

Economically, oil sales to China, India, and other states have offset much of the financial impact of sanctions, and consumer goods and technology from China, Turkey, and other countries in Central Asia and the Middle East have partly replaced those once imported from the West. Still, Russia has been subjected to extraordinary sanctions by virtually all developed democracies. Countless Western firms have pulled their investments and abandoned the country, including the oil and gas companies whose technology is essential to sustain Russia's primary source of income. Thousands of young tech experts and entrepreneurs have fled. In invading Ukraine, Putin has mortgaged his country's future.

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It goes without saying I guess that I disagree with most/almost all of his analyses, though I respect his opinion. I think it is just…too long, and too stuck in views/data from a time gone by, mostly. Still, it's interesting to see the long-winded piece put out there at this moment.

I am curious what our 'swamp' creatures in the state department/NSA/CIA etc. envision a year from now and further. My guess is, they see things much as Robert Gates does, and that is unfortunate.

I would consider any take from RT to be "off beat" considering it is literally Russian state funded media. And though we have our differences I have to give you credit for calling it out as such.

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Salute the snark!

Literally, I do not think they have the ability to post without trying to be snarky. They think its funny but it negates anything rational or of value they ever have to say.

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I would consider any take from RT to be "off beat" considering it is literally Russian state funded media. And though we have our differences I have to give you credit for calling it out as such.

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Not much different than western media. BBC, France 24, DW (German) all government owned/operated.

Oh that's right America is different because here they are privately owned....all of them operating at a loss except FNC. They are staying afloat because they are taxable expenses for megacorps, meaning the government is subsidizing their losses. Kinda crazy how the "safeguards against tyranny" are in debt (in perpetuity) to the entity that would be said tryant. Gee I'm sure that has no impact on how they editorialize issues.

Except that DW and the BBC are often hypercritical of their government leaders. That can quite literally be a fatal mistake for someone at RT.

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Except that DW and the BBC are often hypercritical of their government leaders. That can quite literally be a fatal mistake for someone at RT.

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Crawfishin

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Except that DW and the BBC are often hypercritical of their government leaders. That can quite literally be a fatal mistake for someone at RT.

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Crawfishin

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I suppose this "snark" is acceptable.

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Except that DW and the BBC are often hypercritical of their government leaders. That can quite literally be a fatal mistake for someone at RT.

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Crawfishin

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I suppose this "snark" is acceptable.

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There is no snark in pointing out your attempt to crawfish on the issue. RT is spurious because it's state funded, according to you; when it is demonstrated that all media is state-funded or subsidized, "well Putin is executing his mouthpieces who step out of line, the West just puts them at the 3am time slot."

Except that, as pointed out, there is a distinct difference when one is literally a mouthpiece for a dictator. So much so that its predecessor was liquidated as part of Putin's effort to bring RIA Novosti directly under his control. But of course, "there are no good sides". This isn't the BBC operating a ton of channels over British public airwaves mocking their leaders at every turn. It's hand crafted, authorized content curated and controlled with an iron fist.

Just as a former KGB goon would want it.

Shuchevich Avenue … flows into the Bandera Avenue … leading to Babi Yar.

A direct insult IMO https://t.co/XxyNrjxhpC

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) September 29, 2023

Zelensky's willingness to serve as the mouthpiece for this regime is…not a defense of how grotesque it all really is.

Russian oil and gas revenues forecast to shoot up 30 percent next year.

Community notes are really a great way to clown on our ridiculous propagandists:

Fun fact the first WWII war crime trial was held in Kharkov by the Soviets.

And here's Blinken getting community noted. pic.twitter.com/apuVrR5czp

— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) September 30, 2023

The true “stunt” is the manipulative effort to pass the Senate bill written in secret by #TheFirm. That bill sends billions of dollars to Ukraine at the expense of hardworking Americans. Kudos to @SpeakerMcCarthy for standing up for the American people. #NotOurWar https://t.co/vLKYWHaGRw pic.twitter.com/BpDTY7xCv7

— Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) September 30, 2023

Can't wait to see how Ukraine interprets international law. Something tells me they'll use the Israeli/USA version.

— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) September 30, 2023

On the state of the 'counteroffensive:'

Just leaving this up for reference. Total population of towns based mainly of 2001 census (where Ukraine had a population of over 48 million) of the towns Ukraine's counteroffensive has captured either completely or has completely gotten rid of Ru presence.

Total is 5262. About… pic.twitter.com/6V8fF2SDaK

— Trapped Ion (@SyriaObReloaded) September 30, 2023

Who in their right mind thought that pushing down a valley into fortifications with no air support, no air defense and limited to no EW was a good game plan? pic.twitter.com/iH47zyvjxk

— ayden (@squatsons) September 29, 2023

Is Julian accidentally journalism'ing again? pic.twitter.com/0IYdTdTf7s

— Von Clownsewitz's War College (@vonClownsewitz) September 29, 2023

This is exactly where Ukrainian sources claim the “breakthrough” happened three weeks ago. https://t.co/hiJd8MCDCZ

— ayden (@squatsons) September 30, 2023

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-gas-production-collapse-ussr-levels-1831087?amp=1

Russian gas levels drop to USSR levels

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/news/international/analysis-europe-heads-more-comfortably-into-winter-without-russias-nord-stream-gas/

And Europe now less reliant on Russian gas than ever


Russia…

[ ] Stronger
[x] Not stronger

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No, we are NOT securing the border and protecting our people at home and we ARE protecting Ukraines "border" and helping there people.

But I don't see you clamoring multiple times a day regarding the cartel stacking bodies of Americans.

Some self reflection would do you well.

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Could it be that this is a thread about Ukraine and Russia and not about the debacle at our borders?


And, EVEN IF the government stopped sending ANYTHING to Ukraine, the Biden administration would not change a thing to fix the border problems.

So, thanks for the false dilemma fallacy, I guess....

Good editorial on the recent history/state of affairs in Crimea.

"Ukraine can't have a Nazi problem because the president is Jewish" is the most overused and tired cliche that 🇺🇦 cheerleaders like to throw at you every time you mentioned it.

Let's examine a few historical facts.

Azov's mission statement is "Ukraine's purpose is to lead white… pic.twitter.com/9N5WWfbdUL

— Olga Bazova (@OlgaBazova) October 1, 2023

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Red October.

The Russians have recently destroyed several large Ukrainian ammunition depots containing thousands of tons of munitions, dropped a large number of bridges in the combat zone and are now operating special forces teams in Ivano-Franivsk near the Hungarian border.

Consider this: the Russians have left nothing to chance in this phase of the war. Anticipating a decisive Ukrainian offensive in Zaporozhe, they made painful withdrawals to consolidate their position and spent months digging in. When the Ukrainians finally rolled forward in June, the vast majority of the "devil's garden" they had constructed between the Dniper and Donetsk never saw a single enemy soldier, and the attack was largely stopped in the security zone near the line of contact thanks to extensive minefields and an aggressive, confident defense.

The Russians know they need to attack - and do so successfully, taking huge swathes of terrain and strategic cities - to end the war on their terms. With the experience of the Battle of Zaporozhe in mind, I would expect them to similarly leave nothing to chance. We know they've been generating forces for the last year and have radically developed and updated their stable of military equipment for the conditions of modern war. The Ukrainians have suffered grievously over the summer and Western support is rapidly drying up.

Clausewitz teaches us that the time to attack is immediately following the culmination of the enemy's offensive, before their forces have had time to recover and consolidate. It would seem to me that time is nigh.

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(Armchair warlord I believe is a former US Army artillery officer. I remain skeptical but he is fairly well informed and it's an interesting rumor.)

Red October.

The Russians have recently destroyed several large Ukrainian ammunition depots containing thousands of tons of munitions, dropped a large number of bridges in the combat zone and are now operating special forces teams in Ivano-Franivsk near the Hungarian border.… pic.twitter.com/GZXwdkIzh3

— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) October 1, 2023

A study from Rob Campbell of Ukrainian materiel losses/terror attacks in Sept:

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b of the MoA has produced a good report of Ukraine's recent losses in armoured vehicles and artillery which explains, in part, the change of tactics being adopted by its army. (See MoA September 25th, Ukraine Sitrep). Another source, highlights Ukraine's reliance on costly HIMARS and M270 MLRS systems for targets (such as Russian antenna) that could have been attacked by cheaper artillery systems if they had enough of them. HIMARS are even being used to kill civilians which is not economical from a military point of view. It can be seen from this chart that armour losses have decreased considerably since June.

But the reduction in the use of armour has been (must be) accompanied by very limited offensive action.
Other sources report that 90 out of the 185 Bradleys supplied have been destroyed while another 50 have incurred serious damage. 40 out of the 72 Polish Krab Self Propelled Guns have been destroyed while another 11 have been severely damaged. The same source suggests that Z's boast of fighting through the winter will not be possible because the Ukrainians are clearly short of artillery. According to the Russian MoD, Ukraine has also lost (killed and wounded) 17,000 men in September alone.

Ukraine Terror Attacks (i.e. attacks that deliberately target civilians)

Tokmak
On the evening of 24th September, the Ukrainians attacked residential areas of Tokmak with cluster shells, killing one civilian and injuring 11 (including 3 children) - according to Slavyangrad.

Krasnodar(LPR)
The Ukrainians launched a missile attack on this village in Luhansk on the 25th September. Schools and kindergartens were attacked and had to be evacuated. Two people lost their lives while three more were injured.

Belgorod
The shelling of Belgorod's border region continues day after day and on the night of the 26th/27th Sept, 130 different types of munition (artillery, mortars and drones) were launched at the region. It would take too much space for me to list all the attacks here but even though much damage to residential buildings was caused, only one casualty (a shrapnel wound) has been reported. If you would like some detail Tass provides it here. On September 27th, the village of Bol'shetroitskoe was hit by artillery, private houses were damaged and a local resident was seriously wounded. On the morning of September 28th, a Ukrainian sabotage group tried to break through the border to Starosel. A small detachment of up to six people from the Russian Volunteer Corps (RDK) began a battle with border guards. As a result of a short firefight, Russian units repelled the attack, and the reconnaissance groups retreated.

Verbove
On September 24th, the Ukrainians attacked residential buildings in Verbove with HIMARS missiles. This is totally misguided from a military point of view as well as a moral point of view since the Ukrainians are short of HIMARS - according to the Duran.

Kursk
Kursk is being shelled on a daily basis now. On the 25th Sept, the villages of Snagost, Popovo-Lezhachi and Tetkino were all attacked. I have not seen reports of casualties or damage. An aircraft-type drone was shot down on the 25th Sept and caused no damage. Another enemy reconnaissance group carried out a sortie at night to the village of Guevo; attacking from Miropol in the Sumy region. Their goal was to track the movement routes of Russian military personnel - according to Rybar. On the 27th, five different villages were attacked by Ukrainian artillery causing damage to houses and injuring one civilian.

Bryansk
On September 26th, two recon groups of 20 people each were deployed to the Klimovo direction. Now the groups have taken up positions in the Elino area on the border itself.

Donetsk
Donetsk and Horlivka came under massive attacks on the 27th September. Residential buildings were damaged, one person was killed and three others wounded. I should remind everyone that the shelling of Donetsk happens every day.

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October will be an interesting month to follow events, as the Ukrainians might choose to stockpile some of their most recent deliveries of offensive/longer range weapons or to go forward with striking as deep into Russian territory as they can. I am skeptical they have many serviceable SU-24's left though.

Elon Musk:

STOP FUNDING UKRAINE.

We are literally sending money to a country where the leader is a President for life.

Does that sound like a democracy to you?

Should we be funding a nation like that?

It’s time we take steps to end the war, not escalate it.

Biden needs to fix what… https://t.co/go719M5Jp8

— Elon Musk (Parody) (@ElonMuskAOC) September 30, 2023

Lindsey Graham,

For your reference I have attached a map that has South Carolina circled in red.

That is the state you represent. The country you represent is the United States of America.

I circled in yellow the current territory considered Ukraine. That is not part of the… pic.twitter.com/WAaUwlisUu

— Joey Mannarino (@JoeyMannarinoUS) October 1, 2023

I like this tweet because honestly, I would change teams if someone could articulate how "stacking orcs" helps any Americans. I don't care if it's just equipment out of storage. I don't care if we budgeted/built for it. How does our involvement help any citizen of the united States? As soon as I understand that answer I'll call congress to demand more aid.

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Elon Musk:

STOP FUNDING UKRAINE.

We are literally sending money to a country where the leader is a President for life.

Does that sound like a democracy to you?

Should we be funding a nation like that?

It’s time we take steps to end the war, not escalate it.

Biden needs to fix what… https://t.co/go719M5Jp8

— Elon Musk (Parody) (@ElonMuskAOC) September 30, 2023

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That tweet TELLS YOU it's a parody...

And you fell for it...

At least it's from another perspective. And it started a conversation.

Embarrassing.

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Elon Musk:

STOP FUNDING UKRAINE.

We are literally sending money to a country where the leader is a President for life.

Does that sound like a democracy to you?

Should we be funding a nation like that?

It’s time we take steps to end the war, not escalate it.

Biden needs to fix what… https://t.co/go719M5Jp8

— Elon Musk (Parody) (@ElonMuskAOC) September 30, 2023

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Good lord you just bit on a parody account

So what if it's a parody, it's…pretty true/on point. Besides…the actual Elon account has been dropping some Ukraine truth bombs the past 24 hours.

Interesting perspective https://t.co/oTIaNEGVPR

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 2, 2023

pic.twitter.com/W9i9YEM8uA

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 1, 2023

Including calling out the Ukro-nazi supporters in canada;

Trudeau is trying to crush free speech in Canada. Shameful. https://t.co/oHFFvyBGxu

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 1, 2023

Followers of the war in Ukraine may recognize this emblem, often seen on Ukrainian soldiers' uniforms. It comes from the SS Division Totenkopf.

A (long, two part) thread on one of the most fascinating, and misunderstood, formations of the Waffen-SS, from their origin to 1942. pic.twitter.com/28BeioIwBZ

— Wolf Bronsky (@WolfBronsky) September 26, 2023

This effing guy…

"To stop funding Ukraine is a death sentence to Taiwan"

-- Lindsey Graham

This is exactly what I meant by the US perpetual war and other fronts in the post below. The US economy requires never ending wars to survive. https://t.co/N6uTrnkURb pic.twitter.com/1zo4kUDnMr

— Olga Bazova (@OlgaBazova) October 1, 2023

Not to be outdone by Liz effing Cheney, who is somehow even more contemptible.

Project Ukraine has failed and with it comes the most dangerous time. The cornered beast from the West will keep convulsing in dying throes, as this conflict is existential for all parties involved. The state of perpetual war is essential to keeping the Western economical bubble… pic.twitter.com/uhCav7Nuhr

— Olga Bazova (@OlgaBazova) October 1, 2023

True dictatorial regime being sponsored and funded by the first world liberal democracies. People can't even mourn the dead ones. Unless Ukrainians realise it's not their war unfortunately there's no end to it.

— Abhijeet Tripathi (@AbhTri_) October 2, 2023

If by sus, you mean hilarious, agreed.

— Von Clownsewitz's War College (@vonClownsewitz) October 2, 2023

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— Von Clownsewitz's War College (@vonClownsewitz) September 30, 2023

Nationalist party wins in Slovakian election, backing Russia.

Breaking: Ukraine Surrendering. The end approaches.

Special radio frequency being used so that Ukrainian soldiers can safely surrender to Russian forces.

Prepare for #Zelensky to run before capture.

Thousands of Ukrainian soldiers are opting to surrender to the Russian Army.… pic.twitter.com/joh9GPvtXX

— Jim Ferguson (@JimFergusonUK) October 2, 2023