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No worries, Biden just spoke at the UN and is going to expand the Security Council to focus on among other things "sovereignty" and something new called "territorial integrity". Going to need more billions to accomplish this objective. Though not to diminish the announcement that trillions must be spent in the name of combatting climate change.

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I read that he has that as a 'talking point' but I don't understand the 'logic' at all, which is par for the course. The reason the security council largely doesn't matter is it requires a unanimous vote. Adding voters...ok.

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60-minutes Dan Rather-level lies/propaganda is about perfect for saint zelensky the wonderful.

‼️⁉️ “We're fighting for real with a nuclear state that threatens to destroy the world”

-> Dude … Just negotiate pic.twitter.com/or1VM047o0

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) September 18, 2023

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Cold War porn for neocons and those simply interested in stacking Russian bodies to keep the war going so the grift can continue.

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Had Russia even asked to negotiate?

KLM cut off all flights to Asia this evening (from Europe). This one is about Azerbaijan/Armenia and not Ukraine directly, but it all sort of goes together as they can't/won't fly over Russia right now.

Dutch definitely have MH17 fresh on their minds. I would expect/think other European mainline carriers will follow suit.

This account immediately and falsely calls Azerbaijan’s ongoing war on Artsakh as “fighting between two sides”.

What such accounts are not mentioning is that Azerbaijan has been besieging and starving Armenians for the past 9 months, and is spreading lies about Armenian… https://t.co/U9mzpAlmlM

— Uzay Bulut (@bulutuzay_) September 19, 2023

There are a lot of natural resources involved here. 70 percent of their industrial output in Azerbaijan are minerals, 55 percent in Armenia.

Oh, and remember when our CIA played a role in the Pakistani folks arresting their president/mini-coup last month? Hmmm…

The Pakistan-made KRL-122 Ghazab 122mm MLRS has been supplied to Ukraine, which this tweet mentions. That MLRS has also been supplied to Azerbaijan.https://t.co/UTBiLyPSnn

— A.Peres (@ProjectAccords) September 19, 2023

Winning friends and influencing people, as they say.

Armenia and Azerbaijan are headed to full scale war within the next 30-60 days. Not sure there is anything to turn it around at this point.

Also, saw Doug Collins state (not sure if he was serious) that Iran started barring UN inspectors after the prison swap deal was made.

Biden so much winning!

Probably a good time to slide some money into the defense companies. Might as well get paid for eternal global conflict that is ushered in when anyone other than Trump is in charge...

Wagner group returning Ukraine...

https://eanews.ru/news/chvk-vagner-v-sostave-rosgvardii-vozvrashchayetsya-na-spetsoperatsiyu_18-09-2023

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PMC "Wagner" , which found itself in limbo after June 24, when the head of the company Yevgeny Prigozhin staged a mutiny, joined the troops of the Russian Guard. This is reported by Yevgeny Prigozhin's telegram channel, which continues to be run by the administrator after his death.

"Commanders of units of the Wagner PMC report that the Wagner Group is now working in the closest possible contact with the Russian Guard at the level of a separate unit. An agreement has been reached. The group's fighters have already been notified that a return to the front is not far off," the statement said.

Earlier, EAN wrote that after the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin, a new commander was chosen at the Council of Company Commanders - 42-year-old Hero of Russia Anton Elizarov with the call sign Lotus, a former captain of the Airborne Forces. He was awarded the title of Hero for the capture of the city of Soledar in early 2023.

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Yeah I am curious how 'big' the Wagner folks are in future operations. Really, I have no idea and would be surprised if they are used but for 'brute force' or 'meat' assaults.

Oh, look, saint Zelensky lecturing us about our failure to control global warming/climate;

Zelenskyy is now telling us we’re all failing on our climate change objectives

pic.twitter.com/yatS6dUMyG

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 19, 2023

He's obviously not controlled by/operated by the WEF/CCP in any way.

I bet I can take a stab at how this will be spun by the MSM.

"Zelensky and Uke army counter offensive going so well, Uke leadership is addressing how to make it more climate friendly"

Only time will tell if I got close.

Never trust a leader of a nation who always wears fatigues. At the UN no less.

Is that the gay Canadian guy's dad?

Fidel Castro. I cannot comment on the paternity issue. No idea.

Sitrep 9/20:

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I related how there had been new indication that Russia's newly recruited 300k force would be used to rotate the previously mobilized troops from September-October of 2022.
However State Duma Chairman Andrey Kartapolov has now put speculation to rest with a new decree which states directly that previously mobilized troops will not be "demobilized" as I had thought, and that their term will end only when the SMO itself ends:

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"They will return home after completing a special military operation. No rotation is provided. They are entitled to leave for every six months served, and they now go on these vacations, " the deputy said.

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However, they are still stating that the newly recruited will be used for ongoing rotations of the normal variety, like wounded people, etc., but simply that the 300k mobilized from last year will not be mass demobilized until the war is over.

This is good news as it means Russia is building up its forces. Interestingly, on this topic, General Milley made a new statement where he referenced that Russia has 200k or "200k plus" troops in Ukraine. Once again we recall that I've repeatedly hammered the point that Russia is using far less troops than people were led to believe. If they have only 200k+ in Ukraine now after mass mobilizations and hundreds of thousands of new enlistments, imagine what they had at the very beginning? That's why I stand by my reporting of Russia only using 70-80k men in the opening stages of the SMO, and not much more than that even by the time of the first year anniversary. Though I should mention that I believe Russia has total 350-450k forces as part of the SMO, but they are not necessarily all in Ukraine or on the frontlines, as a portion is being used for rotation purposes, etc.

Ultimately though there may be some deliberate deception at play from the Russian Duma as they may not want to completely reveal their future war plans. So for all we know they may be building those newly recruited for a huge strike fist while for now downplaying them as reserves of a sort.

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On the Ukrainian official discussing 90 percent losses for his region, more feedback:

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So, he is saying that upwards of 90% of all soldiers recruited in his entire large region became casualties. As I wrote in the mailbag yesterday, some have done a back-of-napkin calculation to get a theoretical 400k extrapolated figure for the entire AFU:

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So if Ukraine mobilized 700,000 people and had an army of 300,000, a total of 1,000,000 You can project losses of about 800,000: - out of which 400,000 would be wounded, roughly half can return - 400,000 killed

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There are unverified reports that Zelensky is now "indignant" and demands the dismissal of the Poltava commissar.

What's more is that a Ukrainian fighter posted confirmation of the Poltava figures from his own unit, on his account:


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The fact is that it's becoming increasingly clear that some of the worst, most extreme predictions on Ukrainian losses could in fact be true. This extends to things like POW captures, for instance with yesterday's new report that already 3,500 AFU soldiers had surrendered since the launch of Russia's new project to have a special "surrender frequency" on all radio channels where Ukrainians can dial in and safely surrender to Russian forces:

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Since the launch of the Volga project, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine are invited to go to the frequency of 149.200 for surrender, just over 3,500 enemy soldiers and officers have voluntarily surrendered. In fact, a whole brigade of "counter-offensive".

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The problem is, this project is only a few months old. That means 3,500 have surrendered just since July or so when I believe it was launched. That would explain the sudden uptick to 18k total POWs, as the new radio channel made it very convenient for AFU to surrender safelywhich had classically been one of the main barriers preventing their surrender. They feared by going out into an open field, etc., they would be shot by jumpy snipers or anyone not seeing their makeshift white flag.

But the new channel allows them to fully coordinate the surrender with opposing Russian forces, who give them instructions where and how to do it and then inform all nearby friendlies not to fire on the Ukrainian troops.

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In light of all this begging, the most recent American package has been noted as 17 times smaller than previous assistance funds:

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In the 46th package of military assistance to Ukraine from September 6, the United States included weapons and military equipment worth only $175 million. This is 17 times less than the largest at the moment, the 29th military aid package, which was announced on January 6, 2023.

It is also noteworthy that at the end of the first month of the offensive, the US Armed Forces had to spend more than $2 billion unplanned. After the first significant losses in the Zaporizhia and South Donetsk directions, the Ukrainian Armed Forces needed substantial compensation for the lost military equipment and equipment, for which the United States allocated a total of more than $2 billion in four tranches on June 13 and 27, and on July 7 and 25. A significant part of these sums was spent on additional supplies of American M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and Stryker armored personnel carriers. (Military chronicle of TG)

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What in the world is going on in Armenia/Azerbaijan?


It sure sounds like the CIA types are involved in destabilizing various Russian neighbors...



I did read just now that a ceasefire was achieved in the Azerbaijan conflict, here's hoping.

Interesting pitch from a Democrat…

Hey Americans, want the Ukraine war to go on year after year? Well that’s what NATO Chief Stoltenberg predicts. Time to elect a President who will end the war and bring the money home. #Kennedy24https://t.co/FFvHA88dOG

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) September 19, 2023

Think RFK Jr has decided to run as the anti-DNC Democrat.

Starting to get rumbly feelings that Armenia-Azerbaijan may boil over and make Ukraine an afterthought. It will be the new shiny bobble for people to pretend to hate Russia so they can profit from the war machine.

Breaking.., Biden is going to withhold the fancy missiles that were supposed to go to Z. In the midst of Dana Perino practicing her jabs on Kirby's scrotum, Hemmer dropped the breaking news on him.

He is by far the best WH spokesperson and he's dancing fast and hot this morning over the Iranian speech at the UN and the recent pay for hostages scheme Biden worked out with a terrorist regime.

"Thanks Biden. Never underestimate Joes ability to **** things up" - Barrack 'The Lib Messiah' Obama

The Ukraine/Poland relationship appears to be breaking down. Seems like this should be a bigger headline than it is.

This week, Ukraine announced legal action against Poland, Slovakia and Hungary over grain import bans, with Poland threatening further import bans if Ukraine doesn't back down. Poland also signaled the end of financial support for Ukrainian refugees starting next year.

https://www.barrons.com/news/poland-may-expand-ukraine-import-ban-to-other-products-39573551

Polish President compares situation to trying to save a drowning man yesterday. A meeting between the heads of state was also cancelled at the UN.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/19/7420560/

I'm having a hard time understanding the Ukrainian perspective here as they're isolating one of its biggest supporters.

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It's almost like that substack is always wrong and is pure russian fan fiction.

A couple pages back it was a sign of desperation that Ukraine was supposedly not rotating units (with no supporting evidence).

Now it's GREAT news that Russia actually is refusing to rotate their conscripts until either they are killed, wounded, or the "special military operation" is over.

Good stuff.

More of Ukraine being a dumping ground for the west's defunct military hardware.

This issue was discussed at length above in that you can't just send over a bunch of tanks that require a substantial maintenance and logistical tail.

It's wild how all this is playing out.

Its 2023 and they talking about ramping up to 100K artillery rounds per month, trench warfare and leveling villages week-by-week.

Absolutely wild what we are seeing play out.

Be careful mentioning that most of what's been sent is surplus equipment, that doesn't jive with the "another perspective" that we're depleting our military and bankrupting our country.

Folks on this thread should pace themselves…long long way probably to go before this conflict even reaches some sort of 'cold' stop similar to North/South Korea.

We just got done with twenty-years wars (x2) and seamlessly transitioned to Ukraine.

This Ukraine conflict will drone on until the end of time.

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Be careful mentioning that most of what's been sent is surplus equipment, that doesn't jive with the "another perspective" that we're depleting our military and bankrupting our country.

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It makes perfect sense if you also believe your military is "stronger" after having your fleet flagship sunk, your best NCO's and officers killed in a failed attempt to roll Ukraine in days, in conjunction with massive equipment losses, including the pilots, operators, and sustainers of said equipment, and seeing the only success in 18 months carried out by a PMC that no longer exists and their leader killed.

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Poland continues to re-arm/build out their forces (unlike almost all of Europe), which I believe is ultimately a good thing. It seems likely a part of Ukraine will be absorbed by Poland eventually, imho.

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Nortex called it, 2-1/2 weeks ago

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Poland continues to re-arm/build out their forces (unlike almost all of Europe), which I believe is ultimately a good thing. It seems likely a part of Ukraine will be absorbed by Poland eventually, imho.

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Not sure Poland absorbing Ukraine really accomplishes much other than to consolidate the corruption.

Both "countries" have been failed states repeatedly through the years.

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We just got done with twenty-years wars (x2) and seamlessly transitioned to Ukraine.

This Ukraine conflict will drone on until the end of time.

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At least we have no troops dying in this case.

But yes, this is not some simple thing where the U.S. can ever just magically stop sending a single dollar to Ukraine. Never going to happen as that is a completely unworkable approach. To maintain any influence and leverage on Ukraine, to maintain influence as a power broker in Europe with your Allies, then you have to have skin in the game.

Of course, I definitely could see funding sent to Ukraine reduced because of domestic politics, but funding at some level there will be for a long time to at least hold a minimum line. We were annually sending some money to Ukraine during Trump's term too. This isn't solely a 'Dem' thing and never will be. Already in Year Nine since it went Hot. And both Ukraine and Russia see this as an existential situation and there is extreme animosity and distrust, so where is a 'middle ground' going to eventually be found that would be acceptable for an actual real peace? There is no easy answer.

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We just got done with twenty-years wars (x2) and seamlessly transitioned to Ukraine.

This Ukraine conflict will drone on until the end of time.

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At least we have no troops dying in this case.

But yes, this is not some simple thing where the U.S. can ever just magically stop sending a single dollar to Ukraine. Never going to happen as that is a completely unworkable approach. To maintain any influence and leverage on Ukraine, to maintain influence as a power broker in Europe with your Allies, then you have to have skin in the game.

Of course, I definitely could see funding sent to Ukraine reduced because of domestic politics, but funding at some level there will be for a long time to at least hold a minimum line. We were annually sending some money to Ukraine during Trump's term too. This isn't solely a 'Dem' thing and never will be. Already in Year Nine since it went Hot. And both Ukraine and Russia see this as an existential situation and there is extreme animosity and distrust, so where is a 'middle ground' going to eventually be found that would be acceptable for an actual real peace? There is no easy answer.

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So we are obligated to put European countries and other allies ahead of our own interests? Where are these rules written?

We can very well, without magic and quite practically, stop sending a dime to Ukraine today. Likely with overall net positives to not only the US and its citizens, but to many other parts of the world as well.

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We just got done with twenty-years wars (x2) and seamlessly transitioned to Ukraine.

This Ukraine conflict will drone on until the end of time.

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At least we have no troops dying in this case.

But yes, this is not some simple thing where the U.S. can ever just magically stop sending a single dollar to Ukraine. Never going to happen as that is a completely unworkable approach. To maintain any influence and leverage on Ukraine, to maintain influence as a power broker in Europe with your Allies, then you have to have skin in the game.

Of course, I definitely could see funding sent to Ukraine reduced because of domestic politics, but funding at some level there will be for a long time to at least hold a minimum line. We were annually sending some money to Ukraine during Trump's term too. This isn't solely a 'Dem' thing and never will be. Already in Year Nine since it went Hot. And both Ukraine and Russia see this as an existential situation and there is extreme animosity and distrust, so where is a 'middle ground' going to eventually be found that would be acceptable for an actual real peace? There is no easy answer.

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So we are obligated to put European countries and other allies ahead of our own interests? Where are these rules written?

We can very well, without magic and quite practically, stop sending a dime to Ukraine today. Likely with overall net positives to not only the US and its citizens, but to many other parts of the world as well.

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That is fantasy land to think the US will ever just walk away from Europe. And some will argue with you that maintaining global 'super power' influence and leverage is in our country's own economic benefit and national security interest. We have 700+ military bases in like 80 countries that we spend billions and billions of dollars annually to staff and maintain. Because that is the position the U.S. is in.

You personally may have your own views - but if you are old enough…you know It is what it is. Just a question of the exact where, when, and how much which is the politics. But it isn't ever going to completely just go away. You live in the country that is the largest military and economic power in the world and this is how that dog hunts.

Sorry, I do not subscribe to a defeatist attitude regarding what the US is obligated to spend to protect foreign nations. We have at times had very isolationist policies. We can certainly debate whether those particular policies were right, but we are under no inherent obligation to maintain bases around the world and participate in every skirmish across the globe.

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Poland continues to re-arm/build out their forces (unlike almost all of Europe), which I believe is ultimately a good thing. It seems likely a part of Ukraine will be absorbed by Poland eventually, imho.

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Wait, so now Poland (a NATO member) is going to take parts of Ukraine too? Is this also the same source of nortex that told us about the Russian troop rotations that were totally happening but now not? Or is it the one that said Russia was producing 100 modern tanks per month?

PlaneCrashGuy said:

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nortex97 said:

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Poland continues to re-arm/build out their forces (unlike almost all of Europe), which I believe is ultimately a good thing. It seems likely a part of Ukraine will be absorbed by Poland eventually, imho.

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Nortex called it, 2-1/2 weeks ago

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It is funny that Poland has been at odds with Ukraine so much, this is pretty predictable. Again, there is some lingering animosity about 'recent' events going back to WW2 and the past 200 years there (some of Ukraine of course was Polish at some point).

According to Ukrainian news portals, Polish Prime Minister Morawiecki said that Poland is no longer transferring any weapons to Ukraine, since it is actively arming itself. pic.twitter.com/yEHI8FaLTJ

— senore_amore (@SenoreAmore) September 20, 2023

The folks closest to Ukraine, such as Poland/Hungary etc., see the failure/desperation up close, as well as having an extensive network of 'refugees' and partisans relaying perspectives to them that is probably not…well at least not straight from ISW/CIA/DoD talking points.

These clowns are just out of control to the point they are embarrassing themselves.

BREAKING: The tranny Ukraine military spokesperson was just suspended after threatening that Ukraine would hunt down and kill those who criticize the country’s government and beefing on Twitter with Sen. @JDVance1. pic.twitter.com/esbuRggnRh https://t.co/Wg5ROAQsj2

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) September 20, 2023

When asked by senators how much the conflict on Ukraine will cost the United States in the next 14 months, @SecDef came up with a staggering estimate of $100 billion—in addition to the $113 billion Congress has already spent on that effort! pic.twitter.com/jRTRACuYuI

— Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) September 20, 2023

Wow.

sources in the Ukrainian delegation in the United States report that the Biden administration is openly demanding that Zelensky begin peace negotiations with the Kremlin and freeze the war in Ukraine from November. The office of the President of Ukraine did not expect such…

— Sprinter (@Sprinter99800) September 20, 2023

I don't have telegram so can't confirm this one.

That certainly sounds like a Biden level move.

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Poland continues to re-arm/build out their forces (unlike almost all of Europe), which I believe is ultimately a good thing. It seems likely a part of Ukraine will be absorbed by Poland eventually, imho.

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Nortex called it, 2-1/2 weeks ago

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Wait, so now Poland (a NATO member) is going to take parts of Ukraine too? Is this also the same source of nortex that told us about the Russian troop rotations that were totally happening but now not? Or is it the one that said Russia was producing 100 modern tanks per month?

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No. Nato members would never violate the sovereignty of a nation.

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Teslag said:

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nortex97 said:

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Poland continues to re-arm/build out their forces (unlike almost all of Europe), which I believe is ultimately a good thing. It seems likely a part of Ukraine will be absorbed by Poland eventually, imho.

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Nortex called it, 2-1/2 weeks ago

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Wait, so now Poland (a NATO member) is going to take parts of Ukraine too? Is this also the same source of nortex that told us about the Russian troop rotations that were totally happening but now not? Or is it the one that said Russia was producing 100 modern tanks per month?

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No. Nato members would never violate the sovereignty of a nation.

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At least, not another NATO member.