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That sounds very good/correct. Glad more outfits are analyzing this stuff. Thx for the share.

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The rest of what I have gotten through so far is presented logically and fairly, including much history and analysis on modern border drawing by the US, Brits and even Russia post WWI and again WWII. Spoiler... unrest in Central Asia is due to Russian crayon mapping much like Middle East conflict is a result of Lawrence of Arabia and British crayon mapping.

This board could use some sobering lessons in the history of modern "sovereigns" and how they came to be.

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Teslag said:

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So your article is subscription only and you cherry pick the points you agree with? And you don't provide a quote that says the EU won't exist in a few years as claimed?

And won't address the EU accepting Ukraine with candidate status despite it being a "non starter"?

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God, you are tireless, dense and poor at reading.

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"The struggle to keep the EU relevant, let alone intact, will define the continent for years to come"

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Are you trying to imply the European UNION not being intact but still existing? Time for that pretzel logic again.

Buy a subscription and read the context and report back on my "cherry picking". You going to be real sad when they are not full of Russia propaganda as you would like to think.

You have a HORRIBLE problem trying to understand things "from another perspective", which is why many others have suggested this thread would be better if you just chose not to participate.

Quit your trolling.

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So you pulled it out of your ass. Carry on.

I'm not personally prepared to proclaim the EU experiment done, but the fault lines are clear and blatant and anyone disputing that is ignorant.

We are entering a more regionalized globe at best with two powers and de globalization at "worst". While relevant, seems like a different thread and a clear development that anyone paying attention agrees on.

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I'm not personally prepared to proclaim the EU experiment done, but the fault lines are clear and blatant and anyone disputing that is ignorant.

We are entering a more regionalized globe at best with two powers and de globalization at "worst". While relevant, seems like a different thread and a clear development that anyone paying attention agrees on.

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I would agree with that completely. But it's completely absurd to suggest that the EU will cease to exist in a few years.

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YouBet said:

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I'm not personally prepared to proclaim the EU experiment done, but the fault lines are clear and blatant and anyone disputing that is ignorant.

We are entering a more regionalized globe at best with two powers and de globalization at "worst". While relevant, seems like a different thread and a clear development that anyone paying attention agrees on.

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I would agree with that completely. But it's completely absurd to suggest that the EU will cease to exist in 3 years.

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Said no one including me.

Quit trolling.

Edited and still applicable

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Good talk with Mark Sledoba.

Russian Forces along this Section of the Frontline have now managed to Advance between 15-18km and are slowly pushing towards the Oskil River.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) July 25, 2023

If I/others are right, the Ukrainians are likely to be low on artillery (and fuel) over the coming weeks. I expect the Russians to gradually push back.

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More details on this:

The Russian Army just blasted open a 12-kilometer hole in the Ukrainian front line and captured more terrain in a week than Ukraine has in the last two months of their counteroffensive.

Let's talk about it. ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/vk2xHNwHXs

— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) July 26, 2023

Yes, it's an interesting development. The speculation about what reserve forces the UFA have that can operate in a maneuvering defense competently is the big question/issue.

Did you know we play both sides of most of these wars? pic.twitter.com/XJafcGcbrk

— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) July 26, 2023

And yes, the Biden crime familia's ties to Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs…are THE proximate cause of this war.

We‘ve figured out what the Biden family business is: a dirty foreign lobbying shop pic.twitter.com/AJZWV2Hwk7

— Jesse Watters (@JesseBWatters) July 26, 2023

Everything Joe Biden has said about Ukraine and corruption and policy has been a series of lies to cover up his corruption/complicity. No small coincidence Zelensky the magnificent gave a sermon about corruption last night, about a couple Ukrainian officials.

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And yes, the Biden crime familia's ties to Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs…are THE proximate cause of this war

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And of course you hold Putin blameless. But not surprising.

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And yes, the Biden crime familia's ties to Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs…are THE proximate cause of this war

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And of course you hold Putin blameless. But not surprising.

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He's the victim of Joe Biden's mismanagement of the situation, actually. Joe Biden rolled the red carpet out for Putin with his "well, if it's just a small incursion" comment and years of fostering corruption in the Ukraine which undermined Putin's aim to clean the place up.

Putin's been duped by the Bidens just like the rest of us. Is that the answer you are looking for?

We all know it is and ironically it's actually more truthful than anything you have posted in the recent pages. But really, since you can no longer block and tackle for the Great Z with misinformation, you result to "but whatabout Putin".

Ukraine is paying for their decades of corruption and grifting from the US taxpayers. Most of the women and children have been scattered elsewhere. So I really no longer care what happens to the corrupt leaders and their conscripted soldiers on both sides of the Ukraine conflict. Just as long as the US spigot is turned off.

So… Biden is the master strategist

Correct, but it's not worth arguing with him about it. The history of the Bidens and Russians (and Ukraine) is complex, and clearly he's been long compromised by them. (More at the link, and as per my links many pages back Biden of course has met with every single Russian/Soviet premier since 1975, always smiling/grinning for the cameras with them.)

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Why would Ukraine give money to Biden, of all people?

The question becomes even harder to answer when one digs into Biden's past. His career, it turns out, was sponsored by Russia-linked entities, as documented in detail here by Trevor Loudon.

Biden got his start with heavy aid, right from the very beginning of his career, from both Al Gore, Sr. and the Council for a Livable World (CLW). The CLW advocated for Russian interests and was founded by communist-supporting Leo Szilard, who was later outed as a conspirator with Moscow. Al Gore, Sr., for his part, was sponsored by Armand Hammer, who had a personal relationship with none other than Lenin.

None of this is a secret. Here is Biden himself lauding the CLW: "my ties to the Council go long and deep stretching way back to my first campaign for the United States Senate. I'll never forget the faith you showed and the help you gave to a young man making a long shot bid ... because of you, we won."

Any explanation of the Burisma-Biden deal has to explain why Burisma would give money to a guy whose entire career was advanced by Kremlin-linked sponsors. This contradictory situation, however, makes perfect sense if we just shift the perspective slightly. Perhaps Kremlin interests were using this ostensibly Ukrainian energy company as a cutout.

To understand this hypothesis, it's important to remember: if America is drowning in the swamp, Ukraine is buried two miles deep in Russian swamp.

Russia has been all over Ukraine for centuries. While many assume that in 1991 Ukraine made a clean break with the past, that wasn't the case at all. There were never any Nuremberg-style trials to hold the Russia-approved communists to account. Instead, those communists often retained quite a bit of power.
Ukraine's first "post-USSR" president was Leonid Kravchuk, a longtime member of the Communist Party and Soviet apparatchik. So too his successor, Leonid Kuchma.

This is where Biden begins to intersect with Ukrainian-Russian history. Burisma got started back in 2002 under the Kuchma administration.

Ukraine's next president, Viktor Yushchenko, pushed for a cleaner break with both the past and Russia. He was poisoned.

Finally comes the infamous Viktor Yanukovych, first serving as prime minister under Kuchma, then taking over the presidency in 2010, now hiding out in Russia and wanted for treason by Ukrainian nationalists. It was under Yanukovych that the owner of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky, who belonged to Yanukovych's political party, was appointed minister of ecology and natural resources.

Burisma's history and success are tied to questionable characters linked with Russia and not necessarily Ukrainian national interest.

Burisma isn't even owned in Ukraine. It's actually based in Cyprus. Here is how the renowned expert Joseph Douglass explained the significance of Cyprus: "Russian crooks now own Cyprus"; it is one of Russia's top "money-laundering and sequestering locations."

Zlochevsky, for his part, reportedly lives no longer in Ukraine, but in Monaco.

The idea that Russia would work through cutouts isn't without precedence. Russia-backed Joule energy brought John Podesta aboard. Then there was the uranium deal, which took place through Kazakhstan, another longtime client state of Russia, that upon close examination seems to have been a scheme to move Russian wealth to Hillary Clinton.

This theory also explains the "coincidence" that American politics has moved from Russia to Ukraine. These weren't two disparate actions, but all part of one overarching Kremlin scheme to destroy Trump and American nationalists while advancing their allies in the Democratic Party.

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None of this boils down to a simple message board answer as it is layers of horrible people/corruption/history/money piled on top of each other, but it does beg the question whether the Soviets really did just go away with Gorbachev or not, given all of the 5th column crap we see about us today. What is inarguable though is that Joe Biden is the absolute worst possible leader 'against' the Russians/Chinese we could possibly have.

The other inexorable truth is that anyone who studies this stuff at all should remember the maxim to never, ever vote for a Democrat.

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So… Biden is the master strategist

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And poor Putin the master victim.

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Correct, but it's not worth arguing with him about it. The history of the Bidens and Russians (and Ukraine) is complex, and clearly he's been long compromised by them. (More at the link, and as per my links many pages back Biden of course has met with every single Russian/Soviet premier since 1975, always smiling/grinning for the cameras with them.)

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Why would Ukraine give money to Biden, of all people?

The question becomes even harder to answer when one digs into Biden's past. His career, it turns out, was sponsored by Russia-linked entities, as documented in detail here by Trevor Loudon.

Biden got his start with heavy aid, right from the very beginning of his career, from both Al Gore, Sr. and the Council for a Livable World (CLW). The CLW advocated for Russian interests and was founded by communist-supporting Leo Szilard, who was later outed as a conspirator with Moscow. Al Gore, Sr., for his part, was sponsored by Armand Hammer, who had a personal relationship with none other than Lenin.

None of this is a secret. Here is Biden himself lauding the CLW: "my ties to the Council go long and deep stretching way back to my first campaign for the United States Senate. I'll never forget the faith you showed and the help you gave to a young man making a long shot bid ... because of you, we won."

Any explanation of the Burisma-Biden deal has to explain why Burisma would give money to a guy whose entire career was advanced by Kremlin-linked sponsors. This contradictory situation, however, makes perfect sense if we just shift the perspective slightly. Perhaps Kremlin interests were using this ostensibly Ukrainian energy company as a cutout.

To understand this hypothesis, it's important to remember: if America is drowning in the swamp, Ukraine is buried two miles deep in Russian swamp.

Russia has been all over Ukraine for centuries. While many assume that in 1991 Ukraine made a clean break with the past, that wasn't the case at all. There were never any Nuremberg-style trials to hold the Russia-approved communists to account. Instead, those communists often retained quite a bit of power.
Ukraine's first "post-USSR" president was Leonid Kravchuk, a longtime member of the Communist Party and Soviet apparatchik. So too his successor, Leonid Kuchma.

This is where Biden begins to intersect with Ukrainian-Russian history. Burisma got started back in 2002 under the Kuchma administration.

Ukraine's next president, Viktor Yushchenko, pushed for a cleaner break with both the past and Russia. He was poisoned.

Finally comes the infamous Viktor Yanukovych, first serving as prime minister under Kuchma, then taking over the presidency in 2010, now hiding out in Russia and wanted for treason by Ukrainian nationalists. It was under Yanukovych that the owner of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky, who belonged to Yanukovych's political party, was appointed minister of ecology and natural resources.

Burisma's history and success are tied to questionable characters linked with Russia and not necessarily Ukrainian national interest.

Burisma isn't even owned in Ukraine. It's actually based in Cyprus. Here is how the renowned expert Joseph Douglass explained the significance of Cyprus: "Russian crooks now own Cyprus"; it is one of Russia's top "money-laundering and sequestering locations."

Zlochevsky, for his part, reportedly lives no longer in Ukraine, but in Monaco.

The idea that Russia would work through cutouts isn't without precedence. Russia-backed Joule energy brought John Podesta aboard. Then there was the uranium deal, which took place through Kazakhstan, another longtime client state of Russia, that upon close examination seems to have been a scheme to move Russian wealth to Hillary Clinton.

This theory also explains the "coincidence" that American politics has moved from Russia to Ukraine. These weren't two disparate actions, but all part of one overarching Kremlin scheme to destroy Trump and American nationalists while advancing their allies in the Democratic Party.

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None of this boils down to a simple message board answer as it is layers of horrible people/corruption/history/money piled on top of each other, but it does beg the question whether the Soviets really did just go away with Gorbachev or not, given all of the 5th column crap we see about us today. What is inarguable though is that Joe Biden is the absolute worst possible leader 'against' the Russians/Chinese we could possibly have.

The other inexorable truth is that anyone who studies this stuff at all should remember the maxim to never, ever vote for a Democrat.

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In summary, Biden is a moron senile old man. But also one of the most intelligent and brilliant string pullers, who had ability to force a man like Putin into war through pure corruption and master planning.

Delusional

No one should underestimate the damage Shaheds can cause. If the DIA intel is accurate & they are expecting Russia to be able to deploy an order of magnitude more drones than previously once this facility is operational, air defense will have a hard time.https://t.co/PaxumHjQWc

— Oliver Alexander (@OAlexanderDK) July 26, 2023

More/large strikes expected in the next couple of hours…

At least 1 additional Tu-95MS has launched from Engel’s Air Force Base.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) July 26, 2023

Russians also moving forward with blockade of Ukrainian ports it sounds like.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense is reporting that they have received Intelligence and observed Naval Movements which indicate that the Russian Black Sea’s Fleet and Air Force is preparing for a Blockade of Ukrainian Ports on the Black Sea. pic.twitter.com/UZNnI8df9K

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) July 26, 2023

In continuing my read of the Geopolitical Futures map write-up, went through the couple of pages on Russia. Nothing particularly eye opening but something worth mentioning (again really) is that the Ukraine conflict has forced Russia to establish new trade programs and routes with its Asian and ME "allies" in order to keep their economy moving at all.

This doesn't weaken Russia, this strengthens it. Russia sits on vast natural resources on and under essentially inhospitable land that it can exploit to its hearts content. Pushing its trade to India, Pakistan, China, Iran and other countries who are not so much our friends is not a positive for the US and something that should cause people to pause in their unrelenting support of the most-sovereign Ukes and the Great Z.

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This doesn't weaken Russia, this strengthens it.

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So Russia will oppose any lifting of embargos then correct?

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It likely means the manufacturing that was going from EU to Russia pre war is now going to be less post war. So permanent economic damage done for EU. The embargo was a short term weapon that turned into a dud once sufficient time was given that allowed manufacturing to come online and supply chain lines to be established.

So that's a no. Carry on.

The end of power projection?

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In the Cold War, even air defence using manned aircraft was questionable. It was assumed, rightly or wrongly, that in the early days of a conventional war the Soviet Union would try to attack targets in Europe with manned bombers, and that western aircraft would try to penetrate the fighter screen around them and destroy them. But what was clear, even if it was seldom articulated, was that there could be no question of the West having air superiority over the battlefield itself, not because of aircraft but because of missiles. It's worth backing up here a second. Control of air space is only an enabler: by itself it doesn't win battles. In Normandy in 1944, the Allies had undisputed command of the air, and they used it to provide massive support to their ground forces, which nonetheless still took months to break through the German defences. Without getting into the technical vocabulary, air superiority means that you can be sure that you can conduct air operations against an enemy, albeit with the possibility of losses, whereas the enemy is largely inhibited from conducting operations against you. This is what the Russians have had in Ukraine for some time, but note that this superiority does not always have to be the result of duels in the sky. For the German in France in 1940, it had much more to do with command and control and with the deployment of light anti-aircraft systems well forward. Individually, French aircraft were at least as good as those of the Luftwaffe.

In Ukraine, the Russians are making use of their traditional skills with artillery to achieve air superiority through missiles and radars. This would probably have been true even in the Cold War, since there was no sign that the Soviet Union was anticipating fighter duels over the battlefield, or anywhere much else. But it's important to understand what this means today: highly expensive and sophisticated fighter aircraft looking vainly for a target to fight, while being vulnerable to long range missile attack. Much military technology resembles the children's' game of scissors-stone-paper: no individual weapon or technology is dominant under all circumstances. If the enemy does not want to play air combat between aircraft, your shiny new fighter is just a target for missiles: you thought it was the scissors that would cut the paper but in practice it's the scissors that are blunted by the stone. (Much the same was true of main battle tanks. Throughout the Cold War, there was a fixation with tank-on-tank action, and whether western tanks were "better" than Soviet ones, although in any real conflict the situation would have been much more complicated than that.)

This is a very fundamental point, but I see no sign that it has been grasped. Its most important consequence is that the primary method of air control, and by extension dominance of the ground battle, is by missiles and drones, as we see today in Ukraine. This makes the side which is conducting defence at the tactical/operational level dominant, and makes an attacker vulnerable. It isn't just a question of relative technologies, it's also a question of costs and numbers. Even very sophisticated missiles are in absolute terms relatively cheap, and relatively quick to build. Moreover, any aircraft is in the end nothing more than a platform for weapons and sensors, and it is the weapons that do the damage. Thus, a new generation aircraft capable of launching two long range missiles would have to survive perhaps thirty to fifty missions before it had launched enough missiles to justify its unit cost as a platform. This is, to put it mildly, not typical of modern air warfare, and it's likely that aircraft and pilot would be gone at the end of two to three missions, with no guarantee that the missiles would even strike their target. Moreover, new aircraft take months to build and new pilots take years to train, whereas missiles take only a few days. What this suggests is that we are now seeing the development of a new type of warfare, in which missiles and drones will both provide a cheap method of precision strike, and also be able to control large areas of terrain.

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I'm not so sure this is a true "Revolution in Military Affairs" we are witnessing, but the use of drones/AI etc. is changing the doctrines of many, looking ahead to various different theaters.

And we get to learn all of it without losing a single American soldier

Got to love the strength of Ukrainian women. Watch how they can lift debris from the bombed out building.

Amazing, those pieces look sooooo heavy, yet they pick them up with ease.

On Sky News, anchors discuss a supposed attack by Russia on a temple.

However, in the footage presented as "evidence," a woman is seen effortlessly lifting heavy concrete slabs in the background of the Odessa cathedral.

Wild laughter can be heard in the background. pic.twitter.com/GZb4wGuYkv

— Russian Market (@runews) July 25, 2023

Or just maybe this is pure propaganda......

The answer is obvious. When Russia attacked the nuclear reactor it created superhero babushkas

Friendly reminder that only the Russians are guilty of propaganda.

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The answer is obvious. When Russia attacked the nuclear reactor it created superhero babushkas

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We got radioactive boars out of ***ushima. It could happen.

You are so right. Any honest person must recognize that it is a possibility, because "could" is the operative word here. What could happen should not be discounted as a possibility, because it "could" happen. The strategy I am referencing is called hope.

Never spike the ball too early is the moral of the story here.

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So that's a no. Carry on.

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What this was meant to illustrate is that the effect of the embargo has only lead to the forging of new relationships with the Russian government. They now have multiple outlets to sell their products.

If the embargo were to end, of course it would be advantageous to Russia because now they have more people competing for their goods.

The people who created the embargo will now be paying more for goods because there is now a larger market for those goods. How is this not clear?

As per so many reports of increased drone and missile strikes, Saint Zelensky the wonderful' s advisor today has noted they don't have enough air defense systems/missiles to protect their key cities: from The Guardian update.

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Ukraine cannot protect all of its main cities from Russian missile threats without a significant increase in the provision of air defence systems, according to a key adviser to President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Mykhailo Podolyak said the strikes on Odesa over the past week had shown clearly that the Russian strategy was to bombard Ukrainian cities, with the aim of overwhelming air defence systems.

"Russia's tactics are clear: they use massive drone attacks to overload our anti-aircraft systems and then in parallel they have a window of opportunity to use ballistic missiles to target infrastructure," he told the Guardian, in an interview at the presidential administration in Kyiv.

That strategy no longer works in Kyiv, where Ukraine has built a sophisticated multilayered air defence system using a range of equipment provided by western allies. However, in Odesa and other parts of the Ukrainian south, Russian missiles have caused chaos in the past week. There have been numerous hits on grain export infrastructure as well as multiple strikes that hit residential areas and even a cathedral.
Podolyak said: "We don't have enough modern anti-aircraft systems like Patriot, that are able to hit the latest generation Russian missiles like Oniks and Kinzhal the deficit of these systems means we can't cover all the parts of the country."

Ukraine has two Patriot systems, one provided by the US and another from Germany. Podolyak said Ukraine needed 10 to 12 Patriot or similar systems to be able to cover the whole country. He added that the recent strikes on Odesa showed that providing more air defence systems was the right thing to do economically as well as morally.

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Russian economy is hurting so badly they just forgave a billion in Somali debt:

Russia-Ukraine war live: Putin says Ukrainian attacks have intensified; Russia grants Somalia $684m debt relief https://t.co/0WlYikBOHq

— Belle & MrB (@bellewitch66) July 27, 2023

Poor Putin, most African counties want nothing to do with Russia as their summit attendance craters. And of course Zelensky's ***** boy Putin blames the west

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/26/kremlin-blames-west-for-small-number-of-leaders-russia-africa-summit-ukraine-war-grain-deal-vladimir-putin

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The Kremlin said on Wednesday that just 17 African heads of state would be attending. This is far fewer than at its 2019 conference or at similar summits held elsewhere, including a meeting in December with Joe Biden that dozens of African leaders flew to Washington DC to attend.
In an effort to exert Russia's influence in Africa, the Kremlin claimed on Wednesday the St Petersburg summit was being undercut by western powers as it sought out diplomatic allies in its standoff over Ukraine.

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But like BRICS is bad ass or something

When you're losing the war move the goalposts.

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When you're losing the war move the goalposts.

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"Losing"

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And when there's a peace deal in place Ukraine will need to continue arming themselves with defensive capabilities. Russian has shown time and time again that peace for them is simply a delay to re-arm.

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If only there was some way they could get a guarantee that Russia would not invade...

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Oh gutless. I'm so hurt. You are a great keyboard warrior. Your momma would be so proud.
Why would you propose a deal when Ukraine is about to have the entire country back? Oh because they aren't actually kicking ass.

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Because someone asked what a negotiated peace plan would look like...

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texagbeliever said:

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Oh gutless. I'm so hurt. You are a great keyboard warrior. Your momma would be so proud.
Why would you propose a deal when Ukraine is about to have the entire country back? Oh because they aren't actually kicking ass.

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Because someone asked what a negotiated peace plan would look like...

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So their idea of a good peace plan was illogical when put up against their perception of how the war is going. So either the peace plan is stupid bringing into question the poster's mental acumen or the poster doesn't really believe the rah rah Ukraine stuff like he posts which makes him a troll. That was my point.