Pretty sure you love Ukraine and Zelensky more than you love the Stars and Stripes.
You also seem to be very willing to send your brethren overseas away from their family since that group no longer includes you…
2/ "But after "Kropyva", I don't want to go back to paper docs at all. The same for quadcopters - the concept of DJI Mavics and the use of civilian copters is simply not even in their plans. Of course, they study our war, but they are still surprised that we use it (quadcopters)…
— Samuel Bendett (@sambendett) July 13, 2023
CONFIRMED by the house organ of the War Party itself, the Washington Post:
— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) July 14, 2023
“The Ukrainian leader’s public rebuke of the alliance stunned those assembled in the summit venue, leaving the U.S. delegation ‘furious’”
“Inside the leaders’ room, there was more back and forth with…
Much on the ongoing Ammo shortage the UFA/USA faces:Quote:
Apparently, they're now growing worried of a Russian offensive from the Bakhmut to sweep west towards the Kramatorsk-Slavyansk agglomerate.
Russia also made some new progress near Marinka, taking a few more fields south of it. And the biggest surprise of all was that just nearby, Russia reactivated the Huliaipole front, making a sudden advance from Marfopil to capture a couple kilometers of fields northward:
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In fact, some reports claim the AFU retreated from the entire southern banks of the Yanchur River that runs through the fields there, making the grayzone upwards of 5km in width.
But it's in the north where Russia continues to have its biggest success. Elite Kraken units were said to have completely abandoned Novoselovske, near Kuzemovka, which is between Svatove and Kupyansk:
'But we have to help the Ukrainians who want to fight off the Russians' is revealed again to be utter rubbish;Quote:
Forever war, comrades!Quote:
Furthermore, a huge new leaked report uncovers the mass-scale desertion and demoralization utterly decimating the AFU from the inside out.Click the link above to view the ream of scanned documents showing Ukraine's units down to 20% levels of effectiveness, riven by demoralization. An example:Quote:
Members of Ukraine's Law Enforcement Agencies that oppose the Kiev regime have leaked internal documents and reports that reveal a flood of cases of soldiers of the 2nd and 5th Mechanized Battalions deserting their posts with units being deemed to be combat ineffective.Quote:
Major Usenov goes on to assess the "moral qualities and combat capability level" of the units as low as 20%. In the report, the causes are listed as "a low level of morale and psychological state of the personnel, which significantly reduces the level of combat readiness..." and "a large number of sanitary and irreversible losses".
This is concerning.
— Elon Musk (Parody) (@ElonMuskAOC) July 14, 2023
Maybe it’s past my time, but I don’t think I’ve seen something like this before.
Have you?
pic.twitter.com/aITAXgYnKn
Tucker: "Every city in America has become worse over the past few years... Your concern is that Ukraine don't have enough tanks... Where's the concern for America in that?"
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) July 14, 2023
Pence: "That's not my concern." pic.twitter.com/u2RlmmrhtM
Wow. @TuckerCarlson’s first question in the first presidential forum for the Republican primary was about Ukraine, exposing Tim Scott as a hawk.
— Liam McCollum (@MLiamMcCollum) July 14, 2023
After, Tucker continued to drill on the issue of cluster bombs and whether the US should push for peace.
You would not see this in… pic.twitter.com/L60BF7M7Kn
The Defense Intelligence Agency is the branch of the US Military whose mission is to “Provide intelligence on foreign militaries to prevent and decisively win wars.” It says the Ukrainian counteroffensive is at a stalemate and doesn’t see a way for it to break through. https://t.co/6SOXM8gSxU
— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) July 16, 2023
Source: https://t.co/qNPeqPNy2k
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) July 15, 2023
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace confirms he’ll be resigning from the cabinet at the next reshuffle and standing down from politics too. The latest Conservative to make an exit. https://t.co/8KwvcDj4Qn
— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) July 15, 2023
Young Ukrainians scared to leave their homes as more and more forced conscription videos emerge….Quote:
Ukrainians have reacted with bemusement, mild irritation and irony to Ben Wallace's notorious comments that the country should be more grateful for the help it is receiving from the UK and other allies as it fights off Russian aggression.
Kyiv previously regarded Wallace as a staunch supporter and friend. His remarks on the second day of the Nato summit in Lithuania last week mystified officials. "Whether we like it or not, people want to see a bit of gratitude," Wallace said, asked about President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's frustration at not being given a formal invitation to join Nato.
Wallace said Ukraine's brusque treatment of allies was counter-productive, especially with sceptical politicians in the US Congress and elsewhere. "I told them that last year, when I drove 11 hours to be given a list, that I'm not like Amazon," he said. He suggested Kyiv's demands for weapons were insatiable, with more asked for as soon as one system was provided.
In Ukraine there was uncertainty as to whether Wallace's intervention reflected No 10 policy something Rishi Sunak later made clear was not the case. One former deputy from Ukraine's parliament, the Rada, asked the Observer if the "lack of gratitude" comment was a manifestation of England's baffling class system? "We don't understand," they admitted. Ukrainian Twitter, meanwhile, lit up with joking memes.
Corruption? In saint Zelensky's war for freedom and good?Quote:
"Many young people no longer leave their homes. There's always a risk. You have to be really careful and look around in case there's any danger. It's really stressful," said one young Ukrainian man in an interview with broadcaster France 24.
"Why don't young people want to be drafted into the army? Because they know the price of holding the frontlines. It costs thousands of lives," he added.
Andrii Novak, a Ukrainian lawyer and specialist in military affairs, said that corruption among military recruiters remains rife, and some conscripting officers are playing the system to get rich quick.
"Because of corruption, there are illegal methods (to avoid the war), such as paying off the people from the armed forces commissary, or paying for a false certificate of disability," he told the French broadcaster.
It is well known that military recruitment offices have become a hotbed of corruption over the last year and a half. In Ukraine, it is no secret that mobilization can be avoided for an average of 7,000. Officers can make incredible fortunes and some do not hide their newfound wealth, arriving at work in new luxury cars.
2/3 ... there is a next "evolution" of Lancet munition into "Product-53" (Изделие-53) - the drone (with a new launcher) is to be used in a swarm against group targets: one Lancet transmits information to the rest of the drones that then destroy selected targets. pic.twitter.com/iylJMG1XKM
— Samuel Bendett (@sambendett) July 16, 2023
Full presentation video showing this new Lancet's wing shape and the "swarm" tactic. https://t.co/5ZBdQnWDzE
— Samuel Bendett (@sambendett) July 16, 2023
Just days before it began, Petraeus said the counteroffensive would be “very impressive” with progress after 3-4 days. pic.twitter.com/14U4JqoO8B
— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) July 17, 2023
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[ol]Ukraine is being cut off gradually from support. Ukraine did not achieve any of the goals set by the West. Ukraine is/has lost. No one believes in both a victory in the war and the further existence of Ukraine. Most importantly: The West has begun to distance itself from Ukraine in order to prepare for possible future negotiations with Russia/BRICS/The World. The condom "Ukraine" will be used thoroughly until apparently November 2023 and then thrown away in the bin of history. [/ol]Keep these six points in mind, and view the picture above again. Let it sink in slowly. Take your time.
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Cluster Ammunition
There is one thing I'd like to add. The emerging threat by the use of cluster ammunition. Since the West ran out of a steady stream of 155mm shells that would be needed to sustain Ukraine's continuation of the war, the US decided to pivot to cluster ammunition. I think there is a reason why the US refrained for now from delivering these shells. Not because of moral or legal issues. No. The problem lies deeper. As many might know, Russia has the biggest stockpiles of cluster ammunitions worldwide.
Russia hasn't used the stockpiles extensively until now. Occasionally, yes, but not systematically. But why has the US waited until now? Here are my thoughts on this:
[ol]By forcing Russia to do the same the US would enable Russia the moral access to another huge stockpile of further artillery shells. You know my opinion. Until recently, Russia has used more shells from its stock than it produces. Hence, it would at some point of time run out of shells. No, since Russia has ramped up its industrial production of shells, I believe that Russia has reached, or will soon reach, the point where its production exceeds its consumption.
But we can't ignore the fact that Russia DID already use up a large part of its former stockpiles. Nevertheless, this is not critical but part of its strategic contingency plans in case of war. To ramp up the production to the consumption level, while the stockpiles provide ready reserves for high-use situations.The second thoughts are purely military in nature. Ukraine is running out or already ran out of vehicles with modern armor that could withstand modern cluster ammunition. In fact, Ukraine became or is currently in the process of becoming a lightly armored force since it has run out of most "modern" stuff. Both Soviet (modern?) and Western weapons (junk that the West wanted to get rid off for several reasons). [/ol]By enabling Russia to use its cluster stockpiles the following will be ensured. Since Ukraine transforms (degrades) itself to a light (ISIS like) militia currently, the usage of cluster shells against their positions or approaching forces will be devastating. Far more devastating than the normal 155mm shells. It will only ensure that the rest of its light/soft (infantry etc.) forces will be destroyed even faster than they already are. And they are currently being already destroyed on an epic scale.
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Today we can talk without a doubt about outright murder, committed by the West and its putsch regime in Kiev against the population of Ukraine.
If the 60 dead per day on the Russian side are heavy, what would you consider 700 dead per day (average) for Ukraine? It is the forced disposal of a people by the West and its putsch regime in Kiev. Murder. War crime. Crime against humanity.
Stacking bodies is great, per Spartacus Aurelius Patton Westmorland Abrams MacArthur. How many Ukrainians have you estimated have been killed per day in this war? Happily, of course, of their own volition. The Ukes claimed 1000 Russians dead in a single day of course, in the gore spin war, at one point this year. Congrats!Teslag said:Quote:
Today we can talk without a doubt about outright murder, committed by the West and its putsch regime in Kiev against the population of Ukraine.
If the 60 dead per day on the Russian side are heavy, what would you consider 700 dead per day (average) for Ukraine? It is the forced disposal of a people by the West and its putsch regime in Kiev. Murder. War crime. Crime against humanity.
From your link. Perspectives indeed, Mr. Objective.
nortex97 said:
No where did I assert that was an objective analyses, just a different perspective
What is "objective" in the coverage of this war? ISW? British Intelligence? CNN, DW, RT, NYT, WaPo, The Guardian, Tyler Rogoway, Tendar stuff? Reporters staying in a hotel in Kiev? Embedded reporters with one side or the other?ABATTBQ11 said:nortex97 said:
No where did I assert that was an objective analyses, just a different perspective
Well, at least you've finally admitted all the crap you post isn't objective. Step 1 is admitting you have a problem, so congratulations on getting past denial
nortex97 said:
So you are also unaware of any? Good talk, glad we agree again, like when another agrees about Musk and our spending 'for' Ukraine.
Teslag said:nortex97 said:
So you are also unaware of any? Good talk, glad we agree again, like when another agrees about Musk and our spending 'for' Ukraine.
Most of those news sources you mentioned are far more objective than outright Russian propaganda.
nortex97 said:
So you are also unaware of any? Good talk, glad we agree again, like when another agrees about Musk and our spending 'for' Ukraine.
PlaneCrashGuy said:Teslag said:nortex97 said:
So you are also unaware of any? Good talk, glad we agree again, like when another agrees about Musk and our spending 'for' Ukraine.
Most of those news sources you mentioned are far more objective than outright Russian propaganda.
You m would think that goaltending for American propaganda outlets might make someone have an "are we the badies" moment but I guess the wait for Tesla's time will continue.
At what point do you feel I mislead you or believed I was posting a source that was "objective" in the "another perspective" thread? In fact, how would that be possible even?ABATTBQ11 said:nortex97 said:
So you are also unaware of any? Good talk, glad we agree again, like when another agrees about Musk and our spending 'for' Ukraine.
As Teslag already said, everything you mentioned is far more objective than EVERYTHING you post, because you post literal propaganda. You've asked why people discount the opinion of a known, paid Russian propagandist who celebrated the invasion of Ukraine as if he was any kind of trustworthy source. You post unattributed quotes and tweets from random people. You don't even know who your "sources" are, just that they say what you want to hear.
Just because you "don't buy the MSM narrative" and seek confirmation bias and a "different perspective" doesn't make you an independent thinker.
You are angry, sorry.ABATTBQ11 said:
BS. Don't play coy. You can't post propaganda and cite it as the basis of your unbiased t"other perspective" and then turn around and claim that you never said it was objective or unbiased. If you know it's propaganda and biased, then everything you claim as "another perspective" is propaganda and biased as well. You might as well say you know it's a lie, but it's a lie you like so it's going to be the basis of your "otherperspectivereality."
You can take in multiple biased sources and come to an incredible conclusion based on what you seen most believable, but that's not close to what you do. Don't even pretend it is.
I agree, and expect a 'new' grain deal to be most likely announced in the meeting in Ankara next month.Quote:
Also, the railway bridge that runs adjacent to the roadway is fully operational and trains are still running on schedule. The current reports state that Russia will construct a temporary roadway over the destroyed span while the final span will be lifted into place later on, some reports claiming September. However, as early as tonight they are planning to make the bridge operational to one way traffic on the intact roadway.
Also, it should be mentioned that as of this writing Odessa is being heavily bombarded in a possible retaliatory strike, with facilities on fire:
Though there is rumor that a much larger attack is planned within the next 72 hours as a true response, once the appropriate targets have been fully configured.
So, what are the consequences of the second Kerch attack?
Apart from the fact that two civilians died in the terrorist attack, with a fourteen year-old Russian girl named Angelina from the Belgorod region now orphaned after losing her parents. Russian troops are already writing her name on shells in her honor:The other biggest consequence is the apparent final termination of the grain deal:Quote:
Angelina, the girl who survived the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge!
Today, Russian artillery is taking revenge for you. And tomorrow, we won't be surprised if your name is written on our "Daggers" and "Kalibr".
The enemy will be punished and defeated!Peskov claims it is permanent, and that the coordination task force with Turkey has even been closed on this account. Personally, I'm doubtful, but we'll see. There are always high emotions after such an event and rash decisions are made to either grandstand or give the appearance of strength, but ultimately more negotiations will likely happen down the line, the only question of how soon.Quote:
The humanitarian corridor though the northern Black Sea has been terminated. The joint coordination center in Istanbul will be closed. Russia no longer guarantees safety of navigation in the region.
I don't think that is true. I think most Ukrainian grain is shipped via rail anyway, and is likely unimpaired by the expiration of the grain deal on the date of the Ukrainian strike on a major bridge. In fact, most of it wound up going to Spain over the past few months, to feed pigs I have read, not to Africa etc. But anyway, we must be 'objective' I have learned:Quote:
Russia wants to give the appearance of interest in grain deal talks for the sake of its allies. This puts Russia in a position of two weak moves. Either they continue talks and look doubly weak because now it shows that even large-scale terror attacks on their infrastructure have no effect on their red lines; or: they completely discard the grain deal but now take a big prestige hit with their allies like Turkey and even China which recently signaled it greatly favors the grain deal extension.
The ultimate question though will be who stands to gain the most from the actual practical realpolitik effects of this, rather than the 'appearance' of having gained something. For instance, we know that Ukraine loses upwards of $500 million per month:
This sounds accurate:Quote:
For instance, this new Politico article accuses Russia of pulling out of the grain deal on monday, and incredibly doesn't mention the word bridge even once:Note how they attempt to reframe the pull out as revolving around Russia's complaints of its own grain exports being 'hurt' by Western sanctions. It's incredible that a day after such a large terrorist attack which blew up two civilians and sent a young girl into a coma is now completely ignored with the standard yellow press lies by omission.Quote:
Russia on Monday pulled out of the Black Sea Grain Initiative, a U.N.-brokered accord that has made it possible for Ukraine to export tens of millions of tons of grains and oilseeds over the past year even as the war rages on.
The deal was vital to keeping food flowing from Ukraine a major breadbasket to the wider world. But Russia, claiming that its own food and fertilizer exports were being hurt by "hidden" Western sanctions, had already effectively strangled the deal before finally killing it off.
Hours later, the Kremlin warned that it could no longer guarantee the safety of shipping in the northwestern Black Sea.
Typically such articles are filled with 'contextualizing' fodder; they didn't think it even remotely contextually relevant to add in the bridge attack?
Of course, we know that only a measly 3% of the grain actually went to Africa or 'countries in need', the lion's share gobbled up by greedy Europe. Even the above Politico article's attempt to contradict this falls flat on its face, as their "proof" lies in a URL to some claimed study which doesn't work, and leads to a log in screen. What a 'professional' outfit.
But Seymour Hersh seems to think it could happen next month:Quote:
There is the possibility perhaps that Putin will now take a fully 'hard line' and refuse to renew the deal in the future under any circumstances in light of the Kerch attack. Perhaps Russia has gamed out the scenarios and with the upcoming fall and winter seasons, plans to again bring Ukraine to its knees with full-on economic-infrastructure multi-vector attacks, which will include destroying Ukraine's economy and renewed missile attacks on the power infrastructure.
This is likely because I believe that next year will be the year we all expected 2023 to be, in terms of big Russian offensives. I don't say that in a wishful thinking manner, simply moving the goalposts of this year to next. I've already been building up a volume of theory-crafting over the course of the past few months comprised of reports about how Russia is slowly building up its offensive potential this year, in terms of the ongoing stealth mobilization, Shoigu's huge new expansions of the armed forces into two new military districts compromising one new army and one new corps. Now that we finally have good data on Ukraine's own massive losses and attrition over the course of the last few months, it's more obvious than ever that next year will be the year for Russia to truly put the pressure on to collapse the AFU, while the remainder of this year will be the continuation of the preparatory work.
One of the reasons, by the way, which I failed to explain in my earlier exegeses on the matter, is that all these new 'stealth mobilized troops' Shoigu is putting together likely require a much longer amount of training time. The 'official mobilization' from last fall was for reservists who already had their compulsory year's worth of training. But the new volunteers, we have no real data on what they are. If some of them are just outright 'enlistments' straight off the street, these are people that would require training from scratch before they're even combat ready. A minimum of one year training would be required for such people, though they could do "basic" training in 3-5 months and then be processed to the 'rear' of some combat zone for further onsite MOS training. I assume though that many of these new 'volunteers' are reservists who weren't on the roll-call of last year's mobilization, so they would be re-trained and re-certified in 3+ months give or take.
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The Russian army will easily "face" the Ukrainian forces and launch its "large-scale offensive" probably in August, Pulitzer-winning journalist Hersh (USA) said, citing his source.
According to his interlocutor, an American "official", it will be then that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will have to face the "real problem". Cluster bullets, the source said, "have no chance" to change the course of the conflict, and the White House "wrong" with its assessment of the situation, writes RIA Novosti.
Americans can judge the unsuccessful course of the "counterattack" for Ukraine by the fact that stories from the war zone have disappeared from the front pages of major newspapers, Hersh said
That would be interesting. We all know (though some won't admit) that much of this war is about American politics, which is why dissent here is so strongly resisted I guess, but a Trump-RFK Jr ticket would be…interesting.Quote:
Let's start with a silly fear but one that does signal the Democratic Party's growing sense of panic about the 2024 Presidential election. It was expressed to me by someone with excellent party credentials: that Trump could be the Republican nominee and will select Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as his running mate. The strange duo will then sweep to a huge victory over a stumbling Joe Biden, and also take down many of the party's House and Senate candidates.
As for real signs of acute Democratic anxiety: Joe Biden got what he needed before the NATO summit this week by somehow turning Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan inside out and getting him to rebuff Vladimir Putin by announcing that he would support NATO membership for Sweden.
The public story for Biden's face-saving coup was talk about agreeing to sell American F-16 fighter bombers to Turkey.
I have been told a different, secret story about Erdogan's turnabout: Biden promised that a much-needed $11-13 billion line of credit would be extended to Turkey by the International Monetary Fund. "Biden had to have a victory and Turkey is in acute financial stress," an official with direct knowledge of the transaction told me. Turkey lost 100,000 people in the earthquake last February, and has four million buildings to rebuild. "What could be better than Erdogan"under Biden's tutelage, the official asked, "finally having seen the light and realizing he is better off with NATO and Western Europe?" Reporters were told, according to the New York Times, that Biden called Erdogan while flying to Europe on Sunday. Biden's coup, the Times reported, would enable him to say that Putin got "exactly what he did not want: an expanded, more direct NATO alliance." There was no mention of bribery.
Bi-directional split lane is in operation...https://t.co/BPOoRyRYHz
— Jibberjab (@XJibberjab) July 18, 2023
nortex97 said:MUST READ: 1000s of Ukrainian civilians are being detained across Russia and the Ukrainian territories it occupies. Accounts confirm system of abuse, in violation of Geneva Conventions.
— Samya Kullab | سامية كُلاّب (@samya_kullab) July 13, 2023
Important + meticulous work from @lhinnant @h_arhirova @VasilisaUKR https://t.co/YwMsRef30A
Disgusting if true.'Ukraine sends us into minefields so we explode first' - Russian POW
— NEWS-ONE 🏴 (@NEWSONE14898745) July 13, 2023
A former #Russian #prisoner who escaped from captivity, claims #Ukraine sends #POWs into #minefields to trigger the devices and forces them to say that Russia strikes civilians pic.twitter.com/rgwSGNPVbL
Likewise.
#Ukraine pic.twitter.com/T6TzwMuMSJ
— beaka (@beaka60) July 13, 2023