I used to say that as well. Then four years ago I needed a dog and went to the local shelter and found this big black lab mix that was so skinny his ribs were practically sticking through his skin. I bought him home and he's turned into a great, gentle pet. He loves my grandkids. Then after about a year I got his DNA tested out of curiosity. Came back 50% American Stafforshire and only 37% Labrador. What would you do?Quote:
I would never, ever own a dog that is a pit or is part pit.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Maybe we should force their owners to get insurance to own those dogs. Or maybe get a license?
but it is to complicated to show ID to vote.
Ag with kids said:How does the 9th give the government the right to ban a certain breed of dog?Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Proc92 said:Which part of the bill of rights covers specific dog breeds?Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Maybe we should force their owners to get insurance to own those dogs. Or maybe get a license?
9th amendment? Or do you believe the government gives people their rights?
Hungry Ojos said:1LoveAg said:
It's the 'culture' not the breed. Lot of ignorance on display in this thread.
Wow.
I'm not going to post what I really think about this pic, or the situation in general. Just going to blanketly say, I can't understand how anyone who truly loves their children, would EVER let them anywhere near a pit bull. Completely negligent and irresponsible. It's only a matter of time…
Get Off My Lawn said:
Q: why'd you buy a Shepard?
A: I needed an animal with herding instinct
Q: why'd did you buy a husky?
A: I needed a sled dog who would run forever
Q: why did you buy a bloodhound?
A: I needed a tracking dog
Q: why'd you buy a pit bull?
A: …it's about the individual, not the breed!
Enviroag02 said:
This is issue is nothing like guns. Guns aren't living organisms with inherent instinct and prey drive.
Just implying that a dog ideally suited to work as junk yard security may be a suboptimal choice for companionship purposes.D-Fens said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Q: why'd you buy a Shepard?
A: I needed an animal with herding instinct
Q: why'd did you buy a husky?
A: I needed a sled dog who would run forever
Q: why did you buy a bloodhound?
A: I needed a tracking dog
Q: why'd you buy a pit bull?
A: …it's about the individual, not the breed!
Are you implying people only buy dogs to work or hunt? The vast majority are for same reason, companionship.
What dog do you think keeps hogs at bay once your hounds track them?
torrid said:
Pit bulls don't kill people, owners do.
D-Fens said:Hungry Ojos said:1LoveAg said:
It's the 'culture' not the breed. Lot of ignorance on display in this thread.
Wow.
I'm not going to post what I really think about this pic, or the situation in general. Just going to blanketly say, I can't understand how anyone who truly loves their children, would EVER let them anywhere near a pit bull. Completely negligent and irresponsible. It's only a matter of time…
Have you ever Googled "nanny dog"? There is a reason the pit bull got that name decades before it became a thug life breed amongst lower income lower IQ irresponsible owners.
The human attacks are rare and generally tied back to owner incompetence or neglect. The majority of incidents are related to pitbulls finishing dog fights a smaller less powerful dog started.
I wouldnt be against a license for any powerful dog breed, but there are already ordinances around leashes etc that would eliminate almost all of these attacks had the owner been abiding.
So like guns, we just have to make sure we highlight and fix the problems of owners, or nothing will change.
Get Off My Lawn said:Just implying that a dog ideally suited to work as junk yard security may be a suboptimal choice for companionship purposes.D-Fens said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Q: why'd you buy a Shepard?
A: I needed an animal with herding instinct
Q: why'd did you buy a husky?
A: I needed a sled dog who would run forever
Q: why did you buy a bloodhound?
A: I needed a tracking dog
Q: why'd you buy a pit bull?
A: …it's about the individual, not the breed!
Are you implying people only buy dogs to work or hunt? The vast majority are for same reason, companionship.
What dog do you think keeps hogs at bay once your hounds track them?
RDV-1992 said:
I have a pit mix. She's a good good girl.
TRADUCTOR said:
"nanny dog" lololol, you need to quit reading that tumblr crap.
Hoyt Ag said:
I'm aware of them being used. But I also think they should be exterminated after seeing first hand damage caused by them.to a child and the parent rescuing the child.
You're right about the shift to another breed creating the same problems. What you disregard is the selective breeding that is a byproduct of the culture around pits. I would go so far as to say that other than conformation show dogs, it is impossible to find a pit without dog fighting genetics within a few generations.D-Fens said:Get Off My Lawn said:Just implying that a dog ideally suited to work as junk yard security may be a suboptimal choice for companionship purposes.D-Fens said:Get Off My Lawn said:
Q: why'd you buy a Shepard?
A: I needed an animal with herding instinct
Q: why'd did you buy a husky?
A: I needed a sled dog who would run forever
Q: why did you buy a bloodhound?
A: I needed a tracking dog
Q: why'd you buy a pit bull?
A: …it's about the individual, not the breed!
Are you implying people only buy dogs to work or hunt? The vast majority are for same reason, companionship.
What dog do you think keeps hogs at bay once your hounds track them?
How about German Shepards?
I would bet that if all those people living paycheck to paycheck to afford their next tat stopped buying pits, and starting buying German shephards we would see the same problem with a diff breed. But I'm beating a dead horse. Keep blaming breeds bc you can never be called a "racist" or "bigot" if you do that.
Hybrids transfer some of the breeding parent's traits, but not all. You can pick & choose among the traits that happened to have been passed down. Parent's traits are transferred directly without the diversity that you might find with a hybrid.Quote:
But I'm all for exploring the instincts.....starting with terriers and American bull dogs, since those are pitbull parents.
Only if they can't find a way to blame the victim first.Nanomachines son said:MediAg13 said:
Every child I've sewn up in the ER from a doc attack has been a pit. And they were all "family friendly" and "great with kids" and they can only say "I think she just got too close, the dog would never do it on purpose"
They say this 100% of the time.
"It's not the breed, it's the owner".
"Oh okay then I'm coming after you if your dog attacks my kids."
"N-n-n-no I didn't do anything wrong."
I can't tell you how many times I've seen this conversation played out. It's the owner until they have to suffer consequences for their ownership and then it all of a sudden becomes the dog's fault alone.
So you want to apply the same propensity for being a nanny 123-223 years later with much of that time being used to selectively breed them for fighting ability and desire. So roughly 30-60 generations later?D-Fens said:TRADUCTOR said:
"nanny dog" lololol, you need to quit reading that tumblr crap.
I never claimed the dog was bred to be a nanny, but the Staffordshire Terrier did aquire the nickname "nanny dog" in the 18/19th centuries. It's not really an opinion, more of a historical fact. I'm sorry if that is offensive.
Hoyt Ag said:
I'm aware of them being used. But I also think they should be exterminated after seeing first hand damage caused by them to a child and the parent rescuing the child.
