Pit bulls should be banned and the entire breed put down

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Yup, after 8 years. Hell, our shi-zhu is more aggressive.
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MediAg13 said:

D-Fens said:

Blaming the pit bull breed is kinda like blaming guns...the owner/operator is really to blame.


An inanimate object compared to a living animal isn't even a little similar.


How many hundreds of thousands/ millions of pit bulls live in this country that aren't doing this??? Strange, kinda like the hundreds of thousands/millions of gun owners that aren't illegally murdering people. Yeah, the comparison is similar……
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D-Fens said:

Blaming the pit bull breed is kinda like blaming guns...the owner/operator is really to blame.
literally worst analogy ever.
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Urban Ag said:

Rapier108 said:

Banning is one thing, but still the leftist solution of "more government."

Going door to door and killing people's dogs is wholly unacceptable.
Works for the BATFE
The only part of the federal government that rivals the FBI for #1 on the list of entities which need to be disbanded.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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It seems people don't have time to discipline their kids, so their dogs definitely aren't going to get it.
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I am a massive dog lover and rescue family, but I wouldn't trust a pit around any of my family
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Maybe we should force their owners to get insurance to own those dogs. Or maybe get a license?
. This must be sarcasm. Nobody is really this ignorant. Yeah, gotta be sarcasm.
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Half of the problem with pit bulls is that they're so much stronger and more athletic than almost all other dog breeds. At the dog park, I've seem some pit bulls that seemed like sweet dogs but were far faster and stronger than all the other dogs there.

If my 50-lb labradoodle tries to attack me (she never would but just theoretically) I could pretty easily dispatch her. If a 50-60 lb pitbull attacks me, I'm in a desperate fight for my life.
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I think the problem is pits in the pack mentality. I would never have two or more of them. Based on reports, it's usually multiple dogs that go nuts.

I've got a pit and he's extremely meek. He's been bitten twice in the neighborhood by a mutt and a labradoodle. He never retaliated. He's gentle as can be. He likes to wrestle with me, but if he gets too excited, I say "careful" and he's back to licking. And whenever we wrestle he's always showing signs of "daddy we're playing". Love him so much.
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Martin Cash said:

Nanomachines son said:

C@LAg said:

ban pitbulls?

everywhere?


Kill the entire breed and end all of them forever yes.
Hell yes. And Rottweilers


And "hand bag" dogs...
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Pits are a wonderful loviing breed. They get along great with my kids. It's bad owners that are the problem.


Said every pit owner before their kids face was mauled off.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Maybe we should force their owners to get insurance to own those dogs. Or maybe get a license?
let them kill, just have insurance, i despise Pit Bulls and all other vicious breeds,
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usually pro freedom for most things, but public safety comes first here. killer dog breeds should be in the same category as other more dangerous animals.
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Nanomachines son said:

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I don't understand the point of these breeds. I always ask pit owners what made the pit a better fit for their family over say a golden retriever or lab. They never have a good answer.
My half pit (that I inherited) is scary looking as ****. Luckily, the other half is lab.

He's the best ****ing dog in the world. And the nicest. IF he knows you.

I also have a lab.

If someone breaks into my house, my lab is going to want to lick them to death.

My half pit is going to pin them in a corner while they piss their pants. But, he won't bite them. He'll just get about 1 foot from them and bark his scary as **** bark.

Then, I come out and let them make a decision of whether I shoot them or call the cops.

Labs and golden retrievers are great dogs (my dad has one of each). But, they absolutely SUCK for home defense.




If you want a dog for home defense, get a dog that is actually loyal and not a ticking time bomb from an unstable breed.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/pets/g22997516/best-guard-dogs/

Every single list for home protection excludes pit bulls because the breed is like giving a psychopath access to weaponry and telling them to do what they want.



Dog 15 is a pit breed
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We have a catahoula / Great Dane mix. Great dog.

High energy though for 100 lb dog.
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RDV-1992 said:

I have a pit mix. She's a good good girl.
Literally what every pit owner says before they chew the neighbor's face off.
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Urban Ag said:

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:



Tom that is like a clone of my sweet girl from the past. She was with me my last two years at A&M. Made it through a psycho girlfriend live in. A move from CS to Dallas. Met my future life and she actually slept on her side of the bed which was a little irritating. Up and died on me at our ranch about four years after we got married. Buried her on the bank of Cherokee Creek which runs thru the north end of our ranch. I gave up on dogs for ten years after that and we had a couple of sons.

That dog literally still hits me in dreams to this day.


Sorry man. I'll be pretty low when we lose ours. She's three right now and my wife and I got her right after we got engaged. Sort of our first living thing to take care of together. We have a done now and another on the way that will be here in a month.

Our 1.5 year old boy falls asleep on her tummy and she lays there and let's him pull her ears. Little dude also gets his face and hands licked by her and laughs.

Of course we never leave the dog alone with the kid. She is also very apt at tearing down our fence in the back yard.

My wife works from home and even though we live in a nice safe neighborhood I sleep better when I'm work traveling knowing that my wife knows where our guns are, how to use them, and there's a 100 lb Rottweiller answering the door next to her.

I can sort of see the hate for pitts, but I think I reserve more distaste for the owners. Big dogs are like sex or like a gun. Not trained and watched and kept within the proper boundaries, you're going to ruin yours or someone else's life with it.

Pitts can be sweet and loyal, but you're an idiot if you leave it alone with a kid or with someone that teases it or isn't your same skin color or scent (seriouslydogs are legit racist and can't help it).
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Decades ago my family had land where we raised horses. One day we heard some type of commotion and went out to investigate and saw a pit bull on our property chasing after the horses. My mother calmly walked in to the house grabbed her 357 and walked out and put several rounds in to the dog. That is how you deal with dangerous animals like Pitt bulls.
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Carnwellag2 said:

start charging the owners with murder


This is the answer

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Any dog can be trained to the point of control, but it doesn't mean it won't bite when provoked. People need to understand that dog training is not for the dog, it is designed to train the owner/handler how to manage dog ownership. Many owners are untrainable.

If your dog is aggressive or snaps at people, look in the mirror to find fault. That doesn't mean that some dogs are not beyond being controlled because they have been mistreated, or are simply not right in the head, for whatever reason. These dogs must be recognized by the owner and put down. It is common sense.
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beanbean said:

Nanomachines son said:





If you want a dog for home defense, get a dog that is actually loyal and not a ticking time bomb from an unstable breed.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/pets/g22997516/best-guard-dogs/

Every single list for home protection excludes pit bulls because the breed is like giving a psychopath access to weaponry and telling them to do what they want.

Every single list, eh? Huge fail of a post.


I missed the last one, but whatever the point still stands, the breed is worthless.
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doubledog said:

Martin Cash said:

Nanomachines son said:

C@LAg said:

Yes, along with chihuahuas. Not because they're dangerous (however, they are FAR more likely to bite than other breeds) - but because they're useless.
Domesticated rats.


ban pitbulls?

everywhere?


Kill the entire breed and end all of them forever yes.
Hell yes. And Rottweilers


And "hand bag" dogs...
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1LoveAg said:

It's the 'culture' not the breed. Lot of ignorance on display in this thread.





https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)01379-4?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0092867422013794%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

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Selective breeding of domestic dogs has generated diverse breeds often optimized for performing specialized tasks. Despite the heritability of breed-typical behavioral traits, identification of causal loci has proven challenging due to the complexity of canine population structure. We overcome longstanding difficulties in identifying genetic drivers of canine behavior by developing a framework for understanding relationships between breeds and the behaviors that define them, utilizing genetic data for over 4,000 domestic, semi-feral, and wild canids and behavioral survey data for over 46,000 dogs. We identify ten major canine genetic lineages and their behavioral correlates and show that breed diversification is predominantly driven by non-coding regulatory variation. We determine that lineage-associated genes converge in neurodevelopmental co-expression networks, identifying a sheepdog-associated enrichment for interrelated axon guidance functions. This work presents a scaffold for canine diversification that positions the domestic dog as an unparalleled system for revealing the genetic origins of behavioral diversity.


Breed determines behavior due to genetics. You are wrong.
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BMX Bandit said:

Pits are a wonderful loviing breed. They get along great with my kids. It's bad owners that are the problem.


Said every pit owner before their kids face was mauled off.


Yep, every single pit owner on this thread sounds like a carbon copy of the tens of thousands of "good owners" whose dog was great until it snapped and brutally murdered their own kid or someone's else kid. All it takes is one time with a pit.
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Martin Cash said:

Nanomachines son said:

C@LAg said:

ban pitbulls?

everywhere?


Kill the entire breed and end all of them forever yes.
Hell yes. And Rottweilers

5-Week-Old Baby Girl mauled to death by two Rottweilers.
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Used to date a girl in San Antonio who had a brother that would breed pits. I never wanted to be around his place but I got the whole song and dance as this thread. "They're wonderful. It's about socializing them and training them. They'll always protect us." Anyway, I'm sure that guy sold at least 20 of the offspring.

Then I heard he got out of it when his main pet (the female breeding dog) got killed by another pit he was breeding it with. Tore her up bad.

At best, they're really loyal lovable ticking time bombs. No thanks.
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D-Fens said:

Blaming the pit bull breed is kinda like blaming guns...the owner/operator is really to blame.


There's a reason why we cannot have wolves as pets. Their breeding is such that they can never be fully domesticated. I believe a pit bull is very similar. They were bred to be lethal fighters, not house pets.

To your analogy above, it only works if the gun comes fully loaded, cocked, and pointed at your neighbor, and your 5 year old child is holding it.
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jrdaustin said:

D-Fens said:

Blaming the pit bull breed is kinda like blaming guns...the owner/operator is really to blame.


There's a reason why we cannot have wolves as pets. Their breeding is such that they can never be fully domesticated. I believe a pit bull is very similar. They were bred to be lethal fighters, not house pets.

To your analogy above, it only works if the gun comes fully loaded, cocked, and pointed at your neighbor, and your 5 year old child is holding it.


The gun also has no safety, with a hair trigger, and it's prone to spontaneously firing without any input from the holder.
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At the dog park a couple of years ago with my lab, a young Hispanic woman's pit attacked thus older women's collie. Had it bay the throat blood going everywhere, it just ignored her, I beat it across the nose with my plastic leash handle, the whole time thinking it's going to let go and come at me.
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Ag with kids said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Proc92 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Maybe we should force their owners to get insurance to own those dogs. Or maybe get a license?
Which part of the bill of rights covers specific dog breeds?


9th amendment? Or do you believe the government gives people their rights?
How does the 9th give the government the right to ban a certain breed of dog?
because dogs don't have constitutional protections?
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Pit bulls don't kill people, owners do.
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He finally let go as I started just crushing him in the face. The collie took off. The Hispanic woman was like he has never done that before.
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Hold owners criminally liable. That is the solution. People will have to risk their own freedom for the value of owning a breed that might cause them to lose it.
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1LoveAg said:

It's the 'culture' not the breed. Lot of ignorance on display in this thread.




Wow.

I'm not going to post what I really think about this pic, or the situation in general. Just going to blanketly say, I can't understand how anyone who truly loves their children, would EVER let them anywhere near a pit bull. Completely negligent and irresponsible. It's only a matter of time…
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Everybody can give anecdotal examples of a few good dogs or a few bad dogs of every single breed. The difference is the DNA of the dog and his natural bred into instincts and behaviors. Herding dogs are herding dogs for a reason. Sporting dogs are sporting dogs for a reason. German Shepherds, Dutch Shepherds, Malinois, Czech Shepherds are all in the herding class. Note " Herding" staying with, joining and protecting the herd.
As the K-9 trainers said... they don't attack the handler.
Other breeds have and they don't use them anymore.
If you were a betting man, which dog would you bet would attack and maul someone.... a Lab or a Pit Bull? Sure you can find examples of labs biting somebody and pit bulls loving on somebody.... but which behavior of each is most likely? What percentage would each be?
Which one would you bet your money on?
 
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