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I was wondering the same thing. It looks like he took an indirect path to PA, taking IH70 through Indianapolis instead of going through Chicago.

And his dad was in his car and on the traffic stop he had his phone plugged in and google maps up on his leg...wondering how he was convinced to go such an odd way home instead of the fastest route.

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not hedge said:

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And the knife used is a big effing knife. 7 inch blade and sharp. I can't imagine the pain from one of those

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WhoopRAB said:

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Why drive south thru Loma, Colorado? Weather and road conditions too poor thru the Dakotas?

lnvestigators believe that Kohberger is still driving the 2015 white Elanta because his vehicle was captured on December 13,2022,by a license plate reader in Loma, Colorado (inforruation provided by a query to a database). Kohberger's Elanta was then queried on December 15,2022 by law enforcement in Hancock County, Indiana- On December 16,2022 at approximately 2:26 p.m., surveillance video showed Kohberger's Elantra in Albrightsville, Pennsylvania"

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Further analysis of the cellular data provided showed the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources on November 13, 2022 consistent with the Phone travelling from Pullman, Washington to Lewiston, Idaho via US Highway 195. At approximately 12:36 p.m., the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources that would provide coverage to Kate's Cup of Joe coffee stand located at 8 l0 L6 Port Drive, Clarkston, WA. Surveillance footage from the US Chefs Store located at 811 Port Drive, Clarkson, WA and adjacent to Kate's Cup of Joe showed and a white Elantra, consistent with Suspect Vehicle 1, drive past Kate's Cup of Joe at a time consistent with the cellular data from the 8548 Phone.

At approximately 12:45 p.m., the 8458 Phone then utilized cellular data in the area of the Albertson's grocery store at 400 Bridge Street in Clarkston, Washington. Surveillance footage obtained from the Albertson's showed Kohberger exit the white Elantra, consistent with Suspect Vehicle 1, at approximately 12:49 p.m. Interior surveillance cameras showed Kohboger walk through the store, purchased unknown items at the checkout and leave at approximately 1:04 p.m.

Additional analysis of records for the 8458 Phone indicated that between approximately 5:32 p.m. and 5:36 p.m., the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources that provide coverage to Johnson, ID. The 8458 Phone then stops reporting to the network from approximately 5:36 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. That is consistent with the 8458 Phone being in the area that the 8458 Phone traveled in the hours immediately following the suspected time the homicides occurred.

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• On the day of the murders, this shows him driving from Pulllman to Clarkston, WA/Lewiston, ID; which is about a 45 minute drive. While there he purchases a few items at Albertson's around 1pm.
• THEN, we skip all the way to 5:30pm, where he is now near Johnson, ID. This is only a 1.5 hour drive, what was he doing for 4.5 hours?
• At this point his phone goes dark for 3 hours. What is he doing in this 3 hour period, and where does his phone ping next? What was he doing all this afternoon/evening? Hiding the murder weapon/clothes/evidence in the Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forest?
• Also, why does the last line say that, "That is consistent with the 8458 Phone being in the area that the 8458 Phone traveled in the hours immediately following the suspected time the homicides occurred.?" Did they mean to say it's consistent with the 8458 Phone being in the same area the suspected vehicle traveled? Also, why no further details? It just seems like a weird set of facts to add to the affidavit/timeline without more details to tie it to the crime. What are they holding back? Why was he traveling to Johnson, ID, over 2 hours from Pullman, WA, and what does it have to do with the crime?

neAGle96 said:

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I don't think he will survive long enough in prison to receive the death penalty

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not hedge said:

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And the knife used is a big effing knife. 7 inch blade and sharp. I can't imagine the pain from one of those

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I can't imagine the abject fear that coursed through the minds of the victims when they saw that knife, it is chilling to think about. One second you are with your best friend or boyfriend in your bedroom with a sense of security and normalcy and then a second later a strange guy dressed in black walks in with a gigantic knife designed to kill Japanese in a war. It's a pity this guy will meet his maker without being subjected to the same shock and horror, best case scenario he dies by lethal injection in a controlled environment unless some Soros funded DA gets involved.

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neAGle96 said:

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I don't think he will survive long enough in prison to receive the death penalty

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WhoopRAB said:

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Maybe weather is the reason for driving thru Loma, Colorado. Today it is 6 hour longer route. 2844 miles vs 2539 miles.

Can someone explain the below statement? Is the phone connected to the tower but the phone was not in the area. What does this mean and why important? Did Kohberger call into Moscow from outside the city?

"Investigation found that the 8458 Phone did connect to a cell phone tower that provides service to Moscow on November 14, 2022, but investigators do not believe the 8458 Phone was in Moscow on that date.. The 8458 Phone has not connected to any towers that provide service to Moscow since that date"

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not hedge said:

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He won't be in gen pop for that reason

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Rodney Ruxin said:

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not hedge said:

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He won't be in gen pop for that reason

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Padron my ignorance, but has the rule changed? Depends on state? I ask because wasn't Dahmer killed in gen pop? Could be mistaken.

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WhoopRAB said:

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Sorry to be dense, does this just mean he called Moscow from another town?

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If he had not used his own car and left behind the knife sheath (really the biggest link) they'd have a lot of trouble finding him and pinning it on him.

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They were onto the white Elantra pretty quickly but that is a popular color and type of car for college students and there were apparently 90 such cars registered in the area including parking passes for campus at ID U and WSU.

Had he used a burner phone or left his phone at home during the incidents of casing out the house, they would still be looking for a DNA match on an unidentified single source make DNA. In the process of running all of the white Elantras in the area, his pops up because of the registration in Washington state a few days after the murder. They now have a name to conduct more searching. The traffic stop pops up. They now have bodycam video of him in the car and with a specific cell phone number being told to the cop.

Now they have a specific cell phone connected to his name and car, time for a broader warrant on the activity on the cell phone. And the geolocation using cell phone towers and the pings.

So car ID>change in registration provides name>search of name provides traffic stop video>provides specific cell phone number>provides cell phone tower geolocation>provides large number of times car was in the area of the house>provides enough for a pen register on the use of that cell phone going back to when he first got it in June 2022>provides the location of the parents home>take the trash from the home>Idaho State Police lab matches DNA from trash to that of a paternal relation to the suspect DNA from the knife sheath> provides probable cause for a search of BK's person by buckle swab>matches Suspect DNA from the knife sheath.

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Understand and good summary.

So the phone was also a huge screw up.

So don't use your own stuff when committing a murder and it's a lot harder to catch you.

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dont use your car, dont bring your phone anywhere close the location ever, not just during the act, dont leave DNA good starting place

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Guess those points weren't covered in his Fall classes. Maybe part of the Spring curriculum.

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not hedge said:

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So now it's the waiting game?

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MOSCOW, Idaho A restaurant in Moscow, Idaho posted a loving tribute to two of the University of Idaho students killed in an attack this week.
Mad Greek said Madison Mogen and Xana Kernodle had been servers at the restaurant for several years.
The students were found dead on Sunday in what police have called an isolated and targeted attack. Kaylee Goncalves and Ethan Chapin were also killed. Police have not shared details about a suspect but said they are looking for one.

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redcrayon said:

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It's not fully vegan. They just have vegan dishes.

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aggiepanic95 said:

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Rodney Ruxin said:

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not hedge said:

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He won't be in gen pop for that reason

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Padron my ignorance, but has the rule changed? Depends on state? I ask because wasn't Dahmer killed in gen pop? Could be mistaken.

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As I recall, he was being moved within the prison and protocol was not followed allowing another prisoner to have access to him. I think it was orchestrated from within.

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