Rossticus said:

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Found this, that makes an interesting point. Uke AD hits incoming Russian missile which then heads off course into Poland.

Remember that's also how a missile ended up in Moldova a few weeks ago. It was going for a nearby powerplant.https://t.co/LKAjFtFCC4

— Domen Prešern (@domenpresern) November 15, 2022

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I think this is most likely what happened.

Trying to put missiles on a target that close to the Polish border is a helluva gamble for such a minor objective, though. That's some serious FAFO territory right there. Not smart from a risk/reward standpoint. If this bites them in the ass, they'll have earned it.

Whoever chose that target should probably stay away from windows for the foreseeable future.

Polish military expert group arrived to the explosion site.

As there are remains of the rocket there, experts will be able to say with certainty what kind of rocket it was and whether or not it was Russian. pic.twitter.com/MyeAVIIg8v

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) November 15, 2022

TheEternalPessimist said:

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redcrayon said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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NSC, DOD still assessing reports of an explosion in Poland today, but US official tells me it was likely caused by a missile strike or errant missile, not remnants of a missile Ukrainian armed forces shot down.

— Lara Seligman (@laraseligman) November 15, 2022

Nobody has any idea what's happening.

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We know.

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We need to hurry up and fight 3rd World War first over this incident so we can then determine later all the circumstances including Russia's intent.

Treat it like a bloated government health bill....... Pass the bill first, and THEN find out what's in it!

Seems logical.

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Literally no one is saying this. Instead we have actual people on this site suggesting that this was done on purpose as part of some grand conspiracy to distract from the elections/cause a world war.

https://t.co/9ph4LWNGzs

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 15, 2022

BREAKING: NATO ambassadors will meet tomorrow at the request of Poland on the basis of alliance's "article 4", two European diplomats say - Reuters

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 15, 2022

Russian missiles hit Polish Przewodow directly at the electricity power line which connects the EU with Ukraine, close to Dobrotvirska power plant in Ukraine, an important energy hub. Map: courtesy of ENTSO-E, the EU organization of electricity network operators. pic.twitter.com/VHNuuyph3A

— Sergej Sumlenny (@sumlenny) November 15, 2022

BattleGrackle said:

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It's a "special military operation"
-Russian apologists

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Sadly people like Tulsi Gabbard will say this is all Ukraine's fault.

BattleGrackle said:

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It's a "special military operation"
-Russian apologists

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Yes yes every government has to call a war something politically palatable, we do the same.

But at the end of the day it's a war.

⚡️Polish Journalist @LachowskiMateus claims that after contacting a military expert, he was informed that the missiles fragments at the site of the explosion were of a Kh-101 missile.

— War Monitor (@WarMonitors) November 15, 2022

"Indeed, so far everything indicates that a Russian missile or cruise missiles fell on Przewodw in the Lublin province.

And I emphasize again: we are not intentionally attacked by anyone. There is no reason to fear and panic. We are not threatened by war. The security of the country is not at risk.

I've had a telephone conversation with an expert who assessed that the remains of this cruise missile look like the remains of a Kh-101 missile. Such cruise missiles were used by the Russians today to fire at targets in Ukraine."

Rzeczywiście, jak na razie wszystko wskazuje na to, że na Przewodów, w województwie lubelskim spadł rosyjski pocisk lub pociski manewrujące. pic.twitter.com/q08x0Zi82W

— Mateusz Lachowski (@LachowskiMateus) November 15, 2022

Jestem po rozmowie telefonicznej z ekspertem, który ocenił, że szczątki tego pocisku manewrującego wyglądają jak szczątki rakiety Kh-101. Takich pocisków manewrujących Rosjanie użyli dziś do ostrzału celów w Ukrainie.

— Mateusz Lachowski (@LachowskiMateus) November 15, 2022

But do you have.....

Witness in Przewodów says: "I heard a big bang, it hit about a kilometer from my house, I got scared it was war"

Another witness says: "I heard a very unusual sound. I went to see what was going on, but I couldn't see anything in the sky. I thought it must have been a rocket" pic.twitter.com/ci5nKvTSNw

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 15, 2022

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Grain dust explosion is way too much of a reach I think. Possible? Perhaps in a lab setting with an concerted effort to make it so with that size space. It's the same concept behind our thermobaric weapons. I don't see the dispersion variable being perfect enough in this hole to create an explosion enough to derail heavy machinery.

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I think the reach is assuming a Russian missile landed right in the middle of a grain pit.

It's not on railroad tracks, it's a grain trailer that got flipped on it's side. Depending on load, it might not be very heavy.

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From this pic, it doesn't appear the tractor was anywhere near a grain yard.

RebelE Infantry said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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It is a massive difference between errant Russian missiles and missed Ukraine AA that landed in Poland.

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Indeed, but we don't yet know which one it was, and there wouldn't be any air defense missiles in the air if Russia wasn't firing missiles into Ukraine anyway.

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You are correct that we don't know, but the bolded is weak sauce. This is a war.

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It's an invasion. Could be ended very easily if one country took their **** and went home.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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So in reality it was Ukraine that fired missiles that landed in Poland, a NATO country, and killed two people.

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Not at all?

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Well If they are Ukrainian missiles then yes

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That isn't what any of the available evidence is indicating. At most, the Ukrainians shot down missiles that were flying towards them.

RebelE Infantry said:

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BattleGrackle said:

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It's a "special military operation"
-Russian apologists

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Yes yes every government has to call a war something politically palatable, we do the same.

But at the end of the day it's a war.

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And if the way they chose to fight that war affects other countries, they should be held responsible, right?

100% they should. But the question is who is to hold them responsible? I have a feeling we are going to foot the bill. Yet again.

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RebelE Infantry said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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It is a massive difference between errant Russian missiles and missed Ukraine AA that landed in Poland.

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Indeed, but we don't yet know which one it was, and there wouldn't be any air defense missiles in the air if Russia wasn't firing missiles into Ukraine anyway.

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You are correct that we don't know, but the bolded is weak sauce. This is a war.

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It's an invasion. Could be ended very easily if one country took their **** and went home.

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Well yes of course. But over here in reality that's not how things work.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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BattleGrackle said:

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It's a "special military operation"
-Russian apologists

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Yes yes every government has to call a war something politically palatable, we do the same.

But at the end of the day it's a war.

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And if the way they chose to fight that war affects other countries, they should be held responsible, right?

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Yes. Whoever fired the missile that killed those poor people should pay reparations to their families.

RebelE Infantry said:

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BattleGrackle said:

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It's a "special military operation"
-Russian apologists

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Yes yes every government has to call a war something politically palatable, we do the same.

But at the end of the day it's a war.

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We often call them `police actions' or `liberations'.


Believe this attempted strike at a power plant explanation is the most likely. And then being knocked off course.

Its part of the attendant dangers of being adjacent to a war. Not good, but a reality.

Some russian fire control technician forgot to carry the 1.

Is that what we saying here 14 hours later?

Someone tell me.

I can tell you that Russian ambassador is about to get an ass chewing.

BREAKING: Poland summons Russian ambassador after Russian-produced rocket fell on the Polish village of Przewodów at 1540 local time - #Poland's Foreign Ministry

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 15, 2022

Mid-November 2022

Ww3 drones on.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Mid-November 2022

Ww3 drones on.

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Maybe.

Group claims missle to be S-300 fired by Ukraine. Maybe it missed the Russian missle? I don't know much about the RU inventory aside from some GRAU index numbers.

Supposedly the Russians upgraded their stock of the 5v55 serries by 2012 (According to wikipedia)?

Poland appears comfortable enough that they've ascertained the cause to be missiles of Russian origin.

POLISH FOREIGN MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIAN-PRODUCED ROCKET FELL ON POLISH VILLAGE PRZEWODÓW AT 1540 LOCAL TIME

— Phil Stewart (@phildstewart) November 15, 2022

Many similar components to KH-101, which is what Poland is reporting it was. Of course, that doesn't preclude it having been shot down by UAF AD but Poland seems to be indicating, preliminarily, based on the PMs statement that it was Russian missile only. We should know more past midnight our time as day starts over there. It's middle of the night for them atm.

Isn't Ukraine's stocks also Russian made if it is not the weapons they got from us recently? We are going to need launch and travel trajectories rather than composition.

I tend to agree. S-300 and KH-101 have similar components and there's not much we can glean from the scraps in the photos.

Too soon to know but I wonder if Ukraine was trying to shoot down Russian missiles ? We will know soon.. I say zero comes out of this

fullback44 said:

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Too soon to know but I wonder if Ukraine was trying to shoot down Russian missiles ? We will know soon.. I say zero comes out of this

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Yes. Russia launched roughly 100 missiles at Ukraine earlier today.

fullback44 said:

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Too soon to know but I wonder if Ukraine was trying to shoot down Russian missiles ? We will know soon.. I say zero comes out of this

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The media is already running with the "IT MUST BE RUSSIAN" story.
Be ironic if the media drags us into another war.
Edit, Polish gov statement to the incident:
https://www.gov.pl/web/dyplomacja/komunikat-w-zwiazku-z-wezwaniem-ambasadora-federacji-rosyjskiej-do-msz

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Announcement in connection with the summons of the ambassador of the Russian Federation to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

On November 15, 2022, another massive shelling of the entire territory of Ukraine and its critical infrastructure, conducted by the armed forces of the Russian Federation, took place for many hours. At 15:40 in the village of Przewodw in the Hrubieszw poviat in the Lubelskie Voivodship, a Russian-made missile fell, killing two citizens of the Republic of Poland. In connection with this event, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Zbigniew Rau, summoned the ambassador of the Russian Federation to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and demanded immediate detailed explanations.

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Ok, time of invade Ukraine.
Supermodels for everyone.

'Please be careful ... focus only on facts, on what we know, and what our allies know'.

Very careful language here from Morawiecki.

— Jakub Krupa (@JakubKrupa) November 15, 2022

PM Morawiecki doesn't take any questions.

— Jakub Krupa (@JakubKrupa) November 15, 2022