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Have to distract from the incontrovertible evidence that is… checks notes… unnamed sources on Twitter. Yep. Manufactured incident totally checks out.

I will specify to state that there actually IS evidence that both Dems AND GOP were receiving massive donations from FTX. No actual material evidence of complicated crypto money laundering scheme outside of previously mentioned unnamed Twitter sources that have no traceable origin point.

What I don't understand is how everyone has determined at this point, the missiles were "stray" or "errant".

Why not "deliberate"? Srs question.

BattleGrackle said:

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Drunk drivers don't get a pass when they cause an accident. Russia has been acting dangerously for months now. They may have made a mistake and hit a 3rd county, that's not a good excuse

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Russia doesn't get a pass.... but NATO/EU countries who are in large part responsible for the chaos in Ukraine due to their support of a coup during the Euromaiden do?

Sid Farkas said:

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What I don't understand is how everyone has determined the missiles were "stray" or "errant".

Why not "deliberate"? Srs question.

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Because they hit a random grain yard? What benefit is that to Russia?

Target selection. You don't fire a missile at some Polish farmer's grain silos. Missiles are expensive and Russia is on thin stocks as it is.

More evidence that it was Uke air defense shooting down Russian cruise missiles on a flight path immediately on/over Polish border from Belarus.

The remains of the rocket remind of the S-300 air defence missile. pic.twitter.com/RYNuSHcMsg

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 15, 2022

FriscoKid said:

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How about we just wait for the Polish investigators to make a statement?

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Yes, this is horrible, this idea.

txaggie_08 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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What I don't understand is how everyone has determined the missiles were "stray" or "errant".

Why not "deliberate"? Srs question.

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Because they hit a random grain yard? What benefit is that to Russia?

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Exactly. You are not even getting a "freebie" the way when Israel hit the USS Liberty they DID knock out our intelligence gathering/spy ability on them when they most wanted it. Hence the 'accident'. USS Panay another case.

A ship or base as a `freebie' followed by a "oh, so sorry, accident" does happen -- but over a grain yard or village? No. Nothing gained for the risk. Occam's Razor.

Rossticus said:

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Have to distract from the incontrovertible evidence that is… checks notes… unnamed sources on Twitter. Yep. Manufactured incident totally checks out.

I will specify to state that there actually IS evidence that both Dems AND GOP were receiving massive donations from FTX. No actual material evidence of complicated crypto money laundering scheme outside of previously mentioned unnamed Twitter sources that have no traceable origin point.

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How about we give a ratio of DNC to GOP benefits from FTX.....

..... its not even close.

Even Twitter employees gave 3% to a handful of GOP politicians..... the other 97% went to the Democrats Communists.

Russia… DGAF.

Head of RT Margarita Simonyan: "Now Poland has its own Belgorod region. What did you expect?" pic.twitter.com/JUyaFOKRdR

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) November 15, 2022

titan said:

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txaggie_08 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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What I don't understand is how everyone has determined the missiles were "stray" or "errant".

Why not "deliberate"? Srs question.

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Because they hit a random grain yard? What benefit is that to Russia?

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Exactly. You are not even getting a "freebie" the way when Israel hit the USS Liberty they DID knock out our intelligence gathering/spy ability on them when they most wanted it. Hence the 'accident'. USS Panay another case.

A ship or base as a `freebie' followed by a "oh, so sorry, accident" does happen -- but over a grain yard or village? No. Nothing gained for the risk. Occam's Razor.

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I think you are my favorite TexAgs poster recently.

TheEternalPessimist said:

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Rossticus said:

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Have to distract from the incontrovertible evidence that is… checks notes… unnamed sources on Twitter. Yep. Manufactured incident totally checks out.

I will specify to state that there actually IS evidence that both Dems AND GOP were receiving massive donations from FTX. No actual material evidence of complicated crypto money laundering scheme outside of previously mentioned unnamed Twitter sources that have no traceable origin point.

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How about we give a ratio of DNC to GOP benefits from FTX.....

..... its not even close.

Even Twitter employees gave 3% to a handful of GOP politicians..... the other 97% went to the Democrats Communists.

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I'm not arguing that Dems got a butt ton of money directly from FTX. Plenty of evidence for that. FTX was handing out money to all sorts of liberal causes like candy.

TheEternalPessimist said:

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Rossticus said:

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Have to distract from the incontrovertible evidence that is… checks notes… unnamed sources on Twitter. Yep. Manufactured incident totally checks out.

I will specify to state that there actually IS evidence that both Dems AND GOP were receiving massive donations from FTX. No actual material evidence of complicated crypto money laundering scheme outside of previously mentioned unnamed Twitter sources that have no traceable origin point.

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How about we give a ratio of DNC to GOP benefits from FTX.....

..... its not even close.

Even Twitter employees gave 3% to a handful of GOP politicians..... the other 97% went to the Democrats Communists.

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Actually the real difference is Republicans want justice for anyone who benefited from the laundered money; while democrats want to say everyone is doing it so no harm no foul. The implications sure would explain the woeful handling of GOP warchest by party leaders.

Rossticus said:

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TheEternalPessimist said:

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Rossticus said:

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Have to distract from the incontrovertible evidence that is… checks notes… unnamed sources on Twitter. Yep. Manufactured incident totally checks out.

I will specify to state that there actually IS evidence that both Dems AND GOP were receiving massive donations from FTX. No actual material evidence of complicated crypto money laundering scheme outside of previously mentioned unnamed Twitter sources that have no traceable origin point.

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How about we give a ratio of DNC to GOP benefits from FTX.....

..... its not even close.

Even Twitter employees gave 3% to a handful of GOP politicians..... the other 97% went to the Democrats Communists.

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I'm not arguing that Dems got a butt ton of money directly from FTX. Plenty of evidence for that. FTX was handing out money to all sorts of liberal causes like candy.

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Can you hook us up with a link to donation amounts?

Aaaaaaand…. Right. On. Cue.

No strikes were made against targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border by Russian weapons. The fragments published in hot pursuit by the Polish media from the scene in the village of Przewoduv have nothing to do with Russian weapons - #Russia's Ministry of Defense

— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) November 15, 2022

Rossticus said:

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More evidence that it was Uke air defense shooting down Russian cruise missiles on a flight path immediately on/over Polish border from Belarus.

The remains of the rocket remind of the S-300 air defence missile. pic.twitter.com/RYNuSHcMsg

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 15, 2022

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if this is the case then these are SAMs that the Ukes shot at the Russian missiles not Russian cruise missiles

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aezmvp said:

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CSTXAg92 said:

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atmtws said:

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Two things can be true at the same time.

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a simultaneous grain elevator explosion as two errant missles arrive??

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Must have been a pretty small grain explosion. Anyone have a geolocation to see what the structures nearby were?

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This (50.4741829, 23.9211845) MAY be the silo complex targeted earlier tonight in #Przewodów. There are numerous small farms in the area, but none appear to have a silo complex like this one...

Site is 9 kilometers from the border with Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/Ioxd0jsTGo

— The Intel Crab (@IntelCrab) November 15, 2022

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Well, given the efficiency of the Russian military of late, a 5 mile CEP on their inertially guided weapons over a range of 200-500 miles is not unbelievable. As Titan said, probably an overshoot.

txaggie_08 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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What I don't understand is how everyone has determined the missiles were "stray" or "errant".

Why not "deliberate"? Srs question.

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Because they hit a random grain yard? What benefit is that to Russia?

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Setting a precedent for more and more of such "accidents" with the purpose of normalizing it if we don't respond.

Amazing how some here want it to be a Russian weapon, heck even a deliberate Russian attack, so we can have World War III.

If Russia was going to attack Poland, it would not be dropping a missile or two on some random farm. They would have attacked the supply base NATO is using to send weapons to Poland, and they would have used either a large number of missiles, or a nuke. If it was a Russian missile(s), almost certain it was one which either went stupid, or was incorrectly targeted.

BQ_90 said:

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Rossticus said:

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More evidence that it was Uke air defense shooting down Russian cruise missiles on a flight path immediately on/over Polish border from Belarus.

The remains of the rocket remind of the S-300 air defence missile. pic.twitter.com/RYNuSHcMsg

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 15, 2022

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if this is the case then these are SAMs that the Ukes shot at the Russian missiles not Russian cruise missiles

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The one on the left is a fragment purported to have been identified at the scene and the one on the right is a pic for comparison. Based on Russian missile barrages being sent into Lviv from Belarus it's reasonable to say that, yes, this particular piece shown is from the Uke missile that shot down the Russian missile.

I expect for further investigation and reports to show fragments from both in the area.

Rapier108 said:

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Amazing how some here want it to be a Russian weapon, heck even a deliberate Russian attack, so we can have World War III.

If Russia was going to attack Poland, it would not be dropping a missile or two on some random farm. They would have attacked the supply base NATO is using to send weapons to Poland, and they would have used either a large number of missiles, or a nuke. If it was a Russian missile(s), almost certain it was one which either went stupid, or was incorrectly targeted.

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Looking like it was most likely on a flight path right at the border and was shot down, resulting in the incident. That's the problem with Russia lobbing missile barrages right on Poland's border.

TheEternalPessimist said:

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titan said:

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txaggie_08 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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What I don't understand is how everyone has determined the missiles were "stray" or "errant".

Why not "deliberate"? Srs question.

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Because they hit a random grain yard? What benefit is that to Russia?

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Exactly. You are not even getting a "freebie" the way when Israel hit the USS Liberty they DID knock out our intelligence gathering/spy ability on them when they most wanted it. Hence the 'accident'. USS Panay another case.

A ship or base as a `freebie' followed by a "oh, so sorry, accident" does happen -- but over a grain yard or village? No. Nothing gained for the risk. Occam's Razor.

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I think you are my favorite TexAgs poster recently.

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Titan has been one of my favorite posters for years.

So in reality it was Ukraine that fired missiles that landed in Poland, a NATO country, and killed two people.

Again, this is why it's important not to go off half-cocked before all the facts are in.

Polish reporter on blasts tonight: My sources in the services say that what hit Przewowo is most likely the remains of a [Russian] rocket shot down by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. https://t.co/h4B8wjgT7U

— Paul Cunningham (@RTENewsPaulC) November 15, 2022

Rapier108 said:

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Amazing how some here want it to be a Russian weapon, heck even a deliberate Russian attack, so we can have World War III.

If Russia was going to attack Poland, it would not be dropping a missile or two on some random farm. They would have attacked the supply base NATO is using to send weapons to Poland, and they would have used either a large number of missiles, or a nuke. If it was a Russian missile(s), almost certain it was one which either went stupid, or was incorrectly targeted.

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Who here wants WW3?

Rapier108 said:

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Amazing how some here want it to be a Russian weapon, heck even a deliberate Russian attack, so we can have World War III.

If Russia was going to attack Poland, it would not be dropping a missile or two on some random farm. They would have attacked the supply base NATO is using to send weapons to Poland, and they would have used either a large number of missiles, or a nuke. If it was a Russian missile(s), almost certain it was one which either went stupid, or was incorrectly targeted.

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Thank You.

THAT.

Now on the false flag idea---- it is a fact that the breaking FTX story about likely money laundering is a very big one and completely consistent with what have seen with the Bidens and the DNC.

That something would be hyped up overseas to "shiny ball" distract from it is not out of the question, especially coming so hard on its heels and timed.

But the false flag view only operates if you find that it was not Russian fired weapons. And even that doesn't rule out that it is just strikingly timed accident. Doesn't mean the reporting is slanted either.

What it is not, is an attack on Poland ordered as part of an offensive--it has no value.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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So in reality it was Ukraine that fired missiles that landed in Poland, a NATO country, and killed two people.

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Not at all?

Yukon Cornelius said:

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So in reality it was Ukraine that fired missiles that landed in Poland, a NATO country, and killed two people.

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In reality, Ukraine shot down at least one Russian missile of many launched dangerously close to the Polish border, that was headed for Lviv, like many others that Russia has been firing into civilian centers today, which Ukraine has a right to shoot down to protect itself. Remnants of these missiles fell into Poland.

redcrayon said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Amazing how some here want it to be a Russian weapon, heck even a deliberate Russian attack, so we can have World War III.

If Russia was going to attack Poland, it would not be dropping a missile or two on some random farm. They would have attacked the supply base NATO is using to send weapons to Poland, and they would have used either a large number of missiles, or a nuke. If it was a Russian missile(s), almost certain it was one which either went stupid, or was incorrectly targeted.

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Who here wants WW3?

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Separate topic. Somewhat believe some of the Biden admin does. Perhaps other globalists too.

But you asked here, so probably none.

Guess that we are about to see what defending every inch of nato territory really looks like.

Not as a result of this, no.

I don't think anyone here believes this was a deliberate attack on Poland by Russia.

Best case scenario for avoiding further escalation is that is was merely a grain explosion. Worst case it was a ****ty Russian rocket that went far off course. The question is what happens next.

And I don't think anyone here is cheering on WW3 either

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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So in reality it was Ukraine that fired missiles that landed in Poland, a NATO country, and killed two people.

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Not at all?

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Well If they are Ukrainian missiles then yes

Yukon Cornelius said:

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So in reality it was Ukraine that fired missiles that landed in Poland, a NATO country, and killed two people.

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Well, it may have been just as ATMWTS suggested. Two unrelated events.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3341547/replies/63604206

atmtws said:

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Two things can be true at the same time.

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The Ukes shot down a Roosky missle AND a grain silo explosion in near proximity.

ATMWTS - Please accept my apologies for my skepticism of that notion.