hunter2012 said:

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I'm calling it now, Trump will lose the primary and he'll Ross Perot the general.

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Remember that the evidence all shows that Ross Perot drew more votes from Clinton than from Bush. If Ross Perot had not run, Clinton would still have won.

JClark97 said:

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The problem for conservatives like me, is Trump running as an independent if he loses the primary. If he truly cares about this country, he will not do that.

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He truly cares about the country, but his megalomania causes him to think that he and he alone is the best thing for America, so I think him running as an Independent is likely if he loses the nomination.

I'm not sure how the GOP can stop that. And there is a significant percentage of people that will vote for him because they hate both the democratic and republican establishment almost equally.

I don't see any solution to the problem. If he gets the nomination, I don't think he can win. If he doesn't, the republicans can't win because he will run as an independent. Lose - lose.

The win for the GOP will happen if the Dems actually put him in jail, or the Biden Admin finds a way to constitutionally declare that he is unfit (as Biden hinted). The dems must be really conflicted about whether they make him a felon or not. Their debates on that must be epic.

Let's not act like the cream doesn't rise to the top. The republicans had umpteen candidates in 2016 and Trump went after each of them. Kamala called out Biden for his bussing policy and yet he picked her as VP. Competition is good, these people will call out and go after each other, at the end of the day it should get us to the best candidate. We don't need a Jeb, that's why those type of people aren't popular.

Can you people not read?

I NEVER said RD responded. I was talking about SUPPORTERS of each guy fighting about it.

That is wasted energy that should be used to defeat Socialists!!!!! Not each other!!!!!!

What is wrong with reading comprehension around here????

What evidence?

What pro-capitalism Perot voter was aligned with Bill Clinton?

Facts may be available and I would love to see some facts on your claim. If proven true I will humbly beg your apology guvnah!

Can we just fire Trump?

The midterms should have been a democrat bloodbath. It wasn't. We missed an opportunity. Who was head of the GOP? Trump.

Trump, You're FIRED!

eric76 said:

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hunter2012 said:

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I'm calling it now, Trump will lose the primary and he'll Ross Perot the general.

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Remember that the evidence all shows that Ross Perot drew more votes from Clinton than from Bush. If Ross Perot had not run, Clinton would still have won.

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LOL, what a bunch of revisionist crap. I knew a LOT of Perot voters and not a one of them preferred Clinton over Bush Perot had a serious personal grudge against Bush and that is why he ran and later sabotaged his own campaign when he dropped out and got back in. He rarely said a bad word about Clinton but he went hard after Bush. Perot got almost 19% of the vote and got over 20% in a lot of swing states. No way would those votes have split evenly or even close to it.

I'm not convinced DeSantis can beat Trump in the primary. We have a clear leader in the GOP at this point with DeSantis. Trump needs to endorse him and then shut the **** up.

If he runs the waters will muddy and our chances in 2024 diminish

Red Red Wine said:

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What evidence?

What pro-capitalism Perot voter was aligned with Bill Clinton?

Facts may be available and I would love to see some facts on your claim. If proven true I will humbly beg your apology guvnah!

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The only " evidence " is polling data that was taken at the same time when Perot was not included in the survey
Those polls showed Clinton getting more of a bump then bush. It also shows undecided getting a bump.

Perot had two major campaign points
Bush breaking his pledge on Taxes and NAFTA. Neither of those groups are slam dunk R constituencies

Interesting take.

Excellent @RaheemKassam breakdown pic.twitter.com/fj1HilLUXX

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) November 11, 2022

Rapier108 said:

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And the Trump Cultists are getting off right now reading about this.

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Some people don't get that the vast majority of us voted for Trump (in the General) as a compromise because we agreed on certain policy priorities. It wasn't because we really wanted a New Yorker ex-democrat speaking for us.

eric76 said:

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hunter2012 said:

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I'm calling it now, Trump will lose the primary and he'll Ross Perot the general.

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Remember that the evidence all shows that Ross Perot drew more votes from Clinton than from Bush. If Ross Perot had not run, Clinton would still have won.

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You just gotta love this statements that refer to the "evidence", and provide absolutely NONE of it.

annie88 said:

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Interesting take.

Excellent @RaheemKassam breakdown pic.twitter.com/fj1HilLUXX

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) November 11, 2022

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Pffft, that's a horrible take that's simply reaching to find a reason to excuse Trump's behavior.

If Trump has put out nice, rational, non-***head statements over the past 24-48 hrs but the media just won't play them up, then where are those statements? Trump has his own social media platform for ****s sake, lol, so go to Truth and pull up those nice, logical, sane messages. Show me some mature messages that congratulate the winners without claiming all the credit for himself, or messages that are meant to build up the Rep party and America instead of tear it down so it can be rebuilt with him as the messiah.

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annie88 said:

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Interesting take.

Excellent @RaheemKassam breakdown pic.twitter.com/fj1HilLUXX

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) November 11, 2022

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Pffft, that's a horrible take that's simply reaching to find a reason to excuse Trump's behavior.

If Trump has put out nice, rational, non-***head statements over the past 24-48 hrs but the media just won't play them up, then where are those statements? Trump has his own social media platform for ****s sake, lol, so go to Truth and pull up those nice, logical, sane messages. Show me some mature messages that congratulate the winners without claiming all the credit for himself, or messages that are meant to build up the Rep party and America instead of tear it down so it can be rebuilt with him as the messiah.

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This one definitely calls for popcorn to be at the ready.

I am beggining to think Trump is nothing more than some sort of deep state Democrat plant to destroy the Republican Party.

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eric76 said:

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hunter2012 said:

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I'm calling it now, Trump will lose the primary and he'll Ross Perot the general.

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Remember that the evidence all shows that Ross Perot drew more votes from Clinton than from Bush. If Ross Perot had not run, Clinton would still have won.

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LOL, what a bunch of revisionist crap. I knew a LOT of Perot voters and not a one of them preferred Clinton over Bush Perot had a serious personal grudge against Bush and that is why he ran and later sabotaged his own campaign when he dropped out and got back in. He rarely said a bad word about Clinton but he went hard after Bush. Perot got almost 19% of the vote and got over 20% in a lot of swing states. No way would those votes have split evenly or even close to it.

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https://www.jstor.org/stable/2991792

https://www.wsj.com/articles/did-perot-spoil-1992-election-for-bush-its-complicated-11562714375

I was genuinely excited to see a primary fight between these two. I think that’s what would be best for the country.

But apparently Trump is going to just embarrass himself and go down in flames and I’ll be honest, it saddens me a little. Not how the Trump era should end. https://t.co/CYVIcIsW4i

— Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) November 10, 2022

Also, this notion that somebody who runs is stealing votes is asinine.

The citizen owns the vote, not the second choice candidate with a third party running.

If they had been the better candidate, then that person would have voted for them.

Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Time to start ignoring that narcissist.

Thank you Mr Trump. Your time is passed. You may go now.

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Trump has now gone FULL CAPTAIN QUEEG!!

This is insanity

PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

BMX Bandit said:

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Saw another poster say this and rings true:

If Trump were a Manchurian candidate planted by democrats to hurt republicans, would he act any different?

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That was me posting on here a few days ago

I called this exact scenario 2 years ago. although back in 2020 I actually thought we would lose Congress in the midterms as well due to Trump putting his ego into every race.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

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I don't have to explain it. It's obvious if you're not under the veil.

Means he gets his news from a special place.

PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

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I don't have to explain it. It's obvious if you're not under the veil.

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You are so wise. Please, enlighten us of what the latest rantings of an unhinged lunatic seeing all of his power slip away actually mean.

Agthatbuilds said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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Saw another poster say this and rings true:

If Trump were a Manchurian candidate planted by democrats to hurt republicans, would he act any different?

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I dont know how that explains his presidency

Maybe you could do some good tin hatting and sya he is doing this to avert any potential criminal liability from Jan 6 or top secret docs or something

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I was the one who stated that and let me clarify-

the last two years since the 2020 election campaign- if Trump was a Manchurian democrat candidate, would he be doing anything differently than he did?

we can throw in locking us down for "14 days to the curve" and pushing the vaccines and empowering Fauci- all things that DeSantis fought tooth and nail in Florida

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

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I don't have to explain it. It's obvious if you're not under the veil.

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You are so wise. Please, enlighten us of what the latest rantings of an unhinged lunatic seeing all of his power slip away actually mean.

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That's certainly one way to look at it, and I don't blame you. But unfortunately it's not a good one. Well, I guess it could be depending on what you want for the United States.

Tanya 93 said:

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Also, this notion that somebody who runs is stealing votes is asinine.

The citizen owns the vote, not the second choice candidate with a third party running.

If they had been the better candidate, then that person would have voted for them.

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Simplistic take that's grasping at straws at this point. You seriously think that everybody is rational and selfless with their vote?

There are Trunp fanboys (and fangirls) who will vote for him even if Jesus came down from Heaven and said, "Thou shall not vote for Trump!". Just like there are devotees of Bernie and other politicians who will vote for their candidate simply because they've tied up too much of their own identity and pride into him and can't admit their initial analysis ended up being wrong.

PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

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I don't have to explain it. It's obvious if you're not under the veil.

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You are so wise. Please, enlighten us of what the latest rantings of an unhinged lunatic seeing all of his power slip away actually mean.

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That's certainly one way to look at it, and I don't blame you. But unfortunately it's not a good one. Well, I guess it could be depending on what you want for the United States.

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So, no answer to the deeper meaning behind these latest rants? Not even an attempt to bring us to your clearly highly elevated intellectual level?

FL_Ag1998 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Also, this notion that somebody who runs is stealing votes is asinine.

The citizen owns the vote, not the second choice candidate with a third party running.

If they had been the better candidate, then that person would have voted for them.

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Simplistic take that's grasping at straws at this point. You seriously think that everybody is rational and selfless with their vote?

There are Trunp fanboys (and fangirls) who will vote for him even if Jesus came down from Heaven and said, "Thou shall not vote for Trump!". Just like there are devotees of Bernie and other politicians who will vote for their candidate simply because they've tied up too much of their own identity and pride into him and can't admit their initial analysis ended up being wrong.

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My vote belongs to me.
Not a candidate.

If Bernie runs, so what? How many people would have given their vote to the more conservative candidate?

It is only simplistic to people who think someone is owed a vote. No, they aren't.


I vote for the person I think is most representative of what I believe or how I want this country to be run, not who has the best chance of winning.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

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I don't have to explain it. It's obvious if you're not under the veil.

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You are so wise. Please, enlighten us of what the latest rantings of an unhinged lunatic seeing all of his power slip away actually mean.

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That's certainly one way to look at it, and I don't blame you. But unfortunately it's not a good one. Well, I guess it could be depending on what you want for the United States.

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So, no answer to the deeper meaning behind these latest rants? Not even an attempt to bring us to your clearly highly elevated intellectual level?

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Everyone has their opinions. Trump doesn't just throw stuff out there like that for no reason. He's usually pointing something out that isn't kosher.

PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

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I don't have to explain it. It's obvious if you're not under the veil.

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You are so wise. Please, enlighten us of what the latest rantings of an unhinged lunatic seeing all of his power slip away actually mean.

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That's certainly one way to look at it, and I don't blame you. But unfortunately it's not a good one. Well, I guess it could be depending on what you want for the United States.

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I want a guy that can turn Miami red, not one that will lose Georgia.

PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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PatriotAg02 said:

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Easy to tell who is up to speed with reality and who is still a-sheep. Keep watching your mainstream news guys!

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Lol what does this even mean? PatriotAg trying to match Dear Leader by having a trump style meltdown all over the board.

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I don't have to explain it. It's obvious if you're not under the veil.

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You are so wise. Please, enlighten us of what the latest rantings of an unhinged lunatic seeing all of his power slip away actually mean.

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That's certainly one way to look at it, and I don't blame you. But unfortunately it's not a good one. Well, I guess it could be depending on what you want for the United States.

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So, no answer to the deeper meaning behind these latest rants? Not even an attempt to bring us to your clearly highly elevated intellectual level?

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Everyone has their opinions. Trump doesn't just throw stuff out there like that for no reason. He's usually pointing something out that isn't kosher.

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Do you hang on every syllable Kanye West utters too?