So when are the bombshells from the FBI raid

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Ellis Wyatt
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 2:37p, 3/22/23
Whistle Pig said:
Delay tactic denied. Can't use privilege to hide crimes.
Then what would you describe the FBI's actions as?
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 5:18p, 3/22/23
Wat? Investigating a crime and failed cover up.

Trump has futily challenged and appealed every step including, absurdly, the initial warrant up to the Supreme Court. That delay alone took the second half of 2022.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 5:34p, 3/22/23
Whistle Pig said:
Wat? Investigating a crime and failed cover up.

Trump has futily challenged and appealed every step including, absurdly, the initial warrant up to the Supreme Court. That delay alone took the second half of 2022.


Ok keef!

I'm sure after a full 7 years of investigations something, anything, would have turned up. And yet here we are….trying to nail him for paying off a side piece.

In the Words of big rob, L O ****ing L
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 5:47p, 3/22/23
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.

This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 5:50p, 3/22/23
Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.

This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.


What classified documents did he, as president, steal?

Was it more or less sensitive than the corvette files?
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 5:54p, 3/22/23
AG
DrEvazanPhD said:
Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.

This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.


What classified documents did he, as president, steal?

Was it more or less sensitive than the corvette files?


Keef won't answer this because it's (D)ifferent
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 6:09p, 3/22/23
DrEvazanPhD said:
Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.

This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.


What classified documents did he, as president, steal?


I don't know because they're classified. But he took great pains including felony obstruction to conceal them, according to multiple judges who've seen the evidence.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 6:18p, 3/22/23
Whistle Pig said:
DrEvazanPhD said:
Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.

This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.


What classified documents did he, as president, steal?


I don't know because they're classified. But he took great pains including felony obstruction to conceal them, according to multiple judges who've seen the evidence.


Oh I see. Ok keef! Any other people "familiar with the situation" we can ask?
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 6:43p, 3/22/23
Maplethorpe, not Keef.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 6:51p, 3/22/23
You aren't following along. What exactly are you pretending to dispute, in this case you know nothing about?

That these crime fraud exception rulings exist?
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In reply to Rapier108 • 7:10p, 3/22/23
Rapier108 said:
Maplethorpe, not Keef.


Same difference. I just find his masturbatory response to anything negative towards trump to be entertaining. TDS is really a thing
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 9:17p, 3/22/23
TDS is indeed a thing. And you got it bad.

Don't even know which case is being discussed or which puck you're playing goalie against. He's going to prison.

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In reply to Whistle Pig • 9:42p, 3/22/23
AG
When?
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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In reply to PlaneCrashGuy • 9:47p, 3/22/23
Average length from indictment to trial is 12 months in NY, not sure about DC.
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5:06p, 4/2/23
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Investigators now suspect, based on witness statements, security camera footage, and other documentary evidence, that boxes including classified material were moved from a Mar-a-Lago storage area after the subpoena was served, and that Trump personally examined at least some of those boxes, these people said. While Trump's team returned some documents with classified markings in response to the subpoena, a later FBI search found more than 100 additional classified items that had not been turned over.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/02/trump-mar-a-lago-obstruction-classified/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjM1NjY4MzIyIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4MDQwODAwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4MTcwMzk5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjgwNDA4MDAwLCJqdGkiOiI0M2ZlZDBiOS02MTljLTQ1ZDgtOWQ0MS0wZTY4YmEzNDNlNGIiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vbmF0aW9uYWwtc2VjdXJpdHkvMjAyMy8wNC8wMi90cnVtcC1tYXItYS1sYWdvLW9ic3RydWN0aW9uLWNsYXNzaWZpZWQvIn0.C7INQF7IVzWjW0-I49xO0Z-4FlpFtUK0v9eBil51iOo
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 5:08p, 4/2/23
AG
When's he going to prison?

And hopefully you realize your posted article is fake news.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 5:09p, 4/2/23
AG
Whistle Pig said:
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Investigators now suspect, based on witness statements, security camera footage, and other documentary evidence, that boxes including classified material were moved from a Mar-a-Lago storage area after the subpoena was served, and that Trump personally examined at least some of those boxes, these people said. While Trump's team returned some documents with classified markings in response to the subpoena, a later FBI search found more than 100 additional classified items that had not been turned over.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/02/trump-mar-a-lago-obstruction-classified/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjM1NjY4MzIyIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4MDQwODAwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4MTcwMzk5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjgwNDA4MDAwLCJqdGkiOiI0M2ZlZDBiOS02MTljLTQ1ZDgtOWQ0MS0wZTY4YmEzNDNlNGIiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vbmF0aW9uYWwtc2VjdXJpdHkvMjAyMy8wNC8wMi90cnVtcC1tYXItYS1sYWdvLW9ic3RydWN0aW9uLWNsYXNzaWZpZWQvIn0.C7INQF7IVzWjW0-I49xO0Z-4FlpFtUK0v9eBil51iOo


Unnamed sources are undefeated
“A republic, if you can keep it”

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ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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In reply to aggielostinETX • 5:17p, 4/2/23
WAPO's "sources" have been spot on in this case, for almost a year since it started.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 5:27p, 4/2/23
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Whistle Pig said:
WAPO's "sources" have been spot on in this case, for almost a year since it started.


You have cited WAPO once in this entire thread and they were wrong….
“A republic, if you can keep it”

AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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In reply to aggielostinETX • 5:32p, 4/2/23
That reporting was wrong? You know this how?

WAPO was the first, or one of the first to report about storage room video showing Trump employees moving boxes after the subpoena, which ended up in a DOJ filing.
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5:35p, 4/2/23
Trump uses staples and not paperclips .... The horror!!
In the mean time... More documents found in Biden's vet glovebox (probably)
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In reply to doubledog • 5:38p, 4/2/23
doubledog said:
Trump tried to hide documents after he received a subpoena and it's on video.... The horror!


FIFY
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5:44p, 4/2/23
AG
Kinda missed seeing Pigs fake pic every day!
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In reply to Rockdoc • 6:09p, 4/2/23
Ah yes. The "fake pic" that Trump's lawyers never contended was "fake" in their hundreds of filings or hearings..

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In reply to Whistle Pig • 6:30p, 4/2/23
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Now you're getting it pig.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 7:12p, 4/2/23
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Whistle Pig said:
WAPO's "sources" have been spot on in this case, for almost a year since it started.
In your world only.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 7:28p, 4/2/23
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Whistle Pig said:
Ah yes. The "fake pic" that Trump's lawyers never contended was "fake" in their hundreds of filings or hearings..

C'mon man. Give it up. Your hatred is distorting your view.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 7:35p, 4/2/23
Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.


Yes. I get it, but you obviously don't. Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?

Sorry this is happening to you.
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7:37p, 4/2/23
AG
And what you do not realize is as much as you hate Trump, a lot of doctors do not like Obama. And he lied a bunch also.

Take off your partisan blinders and search for the truth.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 7:37p, 4/2/23
AG
Whistle Pig said:
Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.


Yes. I get it, but you obviously don't. Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?

Sorry this is happening to you.
What is happening?
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 7:56p, 4/2/23
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Whistle Pig said:
Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.


Yes. I get it, but you obviously don't. Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?

Sorry this is happening to you.

Gosh nothing is happening to me. You're the one that can't stand the truth. As usual.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 8:20p, 4/2/23
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Whistle Pig said:
Trump lawyer attestation in June that turned out to be a lie, all documents marked classified were returned. Followed by pictures of documents marked classified seized in August. That's the bombshell, what more do you want.

A picture with a bunch of cover sheets with no classified info is hardly a bombshell.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 8:27p, 4/2/23
Rockdoc said:
Whistle Pig said:
Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.


Yes. I get it, but you obviously don't. Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?

Sorry this is happening to you.

Gosh nothing is happening to me. You're the one that can't stand the truth. As usual.


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Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?


Again, sorry this is happening to you.
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8:28p, 4/2/23
So when do the bombshells drop?

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In reply to Jock 07 • 8:30p, 4/2/23
Jock 07 said:
Whistle Pig said:
Trump lawyer attestation in June that turned out to be a lie, all documents marked classified were returned. Followed by pictures of documents marked classified seized in August. That's the bombshell, what more do you want.

A picture with a bunch of cover sheets with no classified info is hardly a bombshell.


It's just "cover sheets" Trump's own lawyers acknowledged weren't just "cover sheets". In court, where it matters.

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