Then what would you describe the FBI's actions as?Whistle Pig said:
Delay tactic denied. Can't use privilege to hide crimes.
Then what would you describe the FBI's actions as?Whistle Pig said:
Delay tactic denied. Can't use privilege to hide crimes.
Whistle Pig said:
Wat? Investigating a crime and failed cover up.
Trump has futily challenged and appealed every step including, absurdly, the initial warrant up to the Supreme Court. That delay alone took the second half of 2022.
Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.
This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.
DrEvazanPhD said:Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.
This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.
What classified documents did he, as president, steal?
Was it more or less sensitive than the corvette files?
Whistle Pig said:DrEvazanPhD said:Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be on the wrong thread. There's so many grand juries, I agree it gets a little confusing.
This thread is about the classified documents Trump stole then lied to his attorneys to get them to lie to the FBI. They just lost an appeal and multiple judges have crime/fraud excepted his lawyer's testimony, documents, and audio recordings. Toast.
What classified documents did he, as president, steal?
I don't know because they're classified. But he took great pains including felony obstruction to conceal them, according to multiple judges who've seen the evidence.
Rapier108 said:
Maplethorpe, not Keef.
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Investigators now suspect, based on witness statements, security camera footage, and other documentary evidence, that boxes including classified material were moved from a Mar-a-Lago storage area after the subpoena was served, and that Trump personally examined at least some of those boxes, these people said. While Trump's team returned some documents with classified markings in response to the subpoena, a later FBI search found more than 100 additional classified items that had not been turned over.
Whistle Pig said:Quote:
Investigators now suspect, based on witness statements, security camera footage, and other documentary evidence, that boxes including classified material were moved from a Mar-a-Lago storage area after the subpoena was served, and that Trump personally examined at least some of those boxes, these people said. While Trump's team returned some documents with classified markings in response to the subpoena, a later FBI search found more than 100 additional classified items that had not been turned over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/02/trump-mar-a-lago-obstruction-classified/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjM1NjY4MzIyIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4MDQwODAwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4MTcwMzk5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjgwNDA4MDAwLCJqdGkiOiI0M2ZlZDBiOS02MTljLTQ1ZDgtOWQ0MS0wZTY4YmEzNDNlNGIiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vbmF0aW9uYWwtc2VjdXJpdHkvMjAyMy8wNC8wMi90cnVtcC1tYXItYS1sYWdvLW9ic3RydWN0aW9uLWNsYXNzaWZpZWQvIn0.C7INQF7IVzWjW0-I49xO0Z-4FlpFtUK0v9eBil51iOo
Whistle Pig said:
WAPO's "sources" have been spot on in this case, for almost a year since it started.
In your world only.Whistle Pig said:
WAPO's "sources" have been spot on in this case, for almost a year since it started.
C'mon man. Give it up. Your hatred is distorting your view.Whistle Pig said:
Ah yes. The "fake pic" that Trump's lawyers never contended was "fake" in their hundreds of filings or hearings..
Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.
What is happening?Whistle Pig said:Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.
Yes. I get it, but you obviously don't. Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?
Sorry this is happening to you.
Whistle Pig said:Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.
Yes. I get it, but you obviously don't. Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?
Sorry this is happening to you.
Whistle Pig said:
Trump lawyer attestation in June that turned out to be a lie, all documents marked classified were returned. Followed by pictures of documents marked classified seized in August. That's the bombshell, what more do you want.
Rockdoc said:Whistle Pig said:Rockdoc said:
Now you're getting it pig.
Yes. I get it, but you obviously don't. Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?
Sorry this is happening to you.
Gosh nothing is happening to me. You're the one that can't stand the truth. As usual.
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Why have Trump's lawyers never said this picture, attached as a DOJ exhibit, was "fake"?
Jock 07 said:Whistle Pig said:
Trump lawyer attestation in June that turned out to be a lie, all documents marked classified were returned. Followed by pictures of documents marked classified seized in August. That's the bombshell, what more do you want.
A picture with a bunch of cover sheets with no classified info is hardly a bombshell.
As we talk about the need for Trump's lawyers to get clearances to review the classified docs Trump stole, note that the 11th C motion describes his lawyers as potential witnesses, plural.https://t.co/48KiUxlTZk pic.twitter.com/Oj9IexzCTw
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) September 17, 2022