So when are the bombshells from the FBI raid

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In reply to fka ftc • 5:58p, 10/22/22
fka ftc said:
Manhattan said:
Look in the mirror, you refuse to admit that the raid was because they lied to the fbi.
So they conducted a raid for a perjury charge? Seems hard to follow the "logic" here.

What law did Trump break? And do not post the ****ing search warrant. Its vague, old news and worthless. They have had 75 days to come up with something other than empty folder covers, golf hats, and Time magazines.

Time for you to either quit posting nonsense or admit this was a failed attempt to get Trump to engage on a national stage prior to the midterms.

Search came up empty, Trump didn't take the bait, and Team Blue loses AGAIN.

I also take exception to your blatant DISREGARD of forum rules regarding posting false information, rumors, etc. Posts will continue to be flagged and emails sent if you continue to derail the thread with false statements.

Its old, its not engaging in discussion or debate, and all you are doing is trying to troll other posters into reacting. Enough nonsense. You and the whistling swine need to do us a favor and go away.



Why do you change what I said? They conducted the raid to get the documents that Trump or his lawyer lied about returning.

It was to get the documents, it wouldn't have had to happen if they didn't lie.
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In reply to dermdoc • 6:01p, 10/22/22
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
Look in the mirror, you refuse to admit that the raid was because they lied to the fbi.
The raid was not necessary.

Especially for nothing of importance.

Has never happened before. For any reason.

It happened because it was Trump.

We all know that. You just will not admit it.



The raid was necessary to get the documents back. If Trump didn't want to give the documents back he could have gone to the courts instead of lying.
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In reply to fixer • 6:07p, 10/22/22
fixer said:
Non sequitur is your strength.


The justice department hasn't even seen all the documents yet due to Trump suing, so how could any formal charges or information be released?

The only way information would be out at this point is through a leak.
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In reply to Manhattan • 6:18p, 10/22/22
Manhattan said:
fixer said:
Non sequitur is your strength.


The justice department hasn't even seen all the documents yet due to Trump suing, so how could any formal charges or information be released?

The only way information would be out at this point is through a leak.
you know that if anything was there it woukd have leaked

another left wing inserrection fail
Old Army has gone to hell.
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In reply to Old Army Ghost • 6:28p, 10/22/22
There doesn't have to be anything ground breaking there, if there are documents that were supposed to be returned, told they were returned, and weren't then Trump probably has another lawyer going to prison.
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In reply to Old Army Ghost • 6:47p, 10/22/22
Is this leak satisfactory? Not even Trump has claimed(in court) it was empty boxes or blank pages.

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In reply to Whistle Pig • 6:52p, 10/22/22
so no fax receipts from sending them tk russia?
Old Army has gone to hell.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 7:14p, 10/22/22
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Oh boy there's your only pic again! Hilarious! You still got nothing.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 7:17p, 10/22/22
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Oh boy there's your only pic again! Hilarious! You still got nothing.


*literally a picture of evidence*

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still got nothing


With this level of trolling, how do y'all wonder why the other thread was deleted?
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In reply to Manhattan • 7:19p, 10/22/22
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Show me. Let's see it. I see nothing but FBI props. Together you two posters got nothing. Still hilarious?
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In reply to Manhattan • 8:44p, 10/22/22
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Manhattan said:
Rockdoc said:
Oh boy there's your only pic again! Hilarious! You still got nothing.


*literally a picture of evidence*

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still got nothing


With this level of trolling, how do y'all wonder why the other thread was deleted?


You're not the most discerning cat God ever made, are you?
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In reply to Manhattan • 8:54p, 10/22/22
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Manhattan said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
Look in the mirror, you refuse to admit that the raid was because they lied to the fbi.
The raid was not necessary.

Especially for nothing of importance.

Has never happened before. For any reason.

It happened because it was Trump.

We all know that. You just will not admit it.



The raid was necessary to get the documents back. If Trump didn't want to give the documents back he could have gone to the courts instead of lying.


Totally wrong. There never had to be a raid.
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In reply to dermdoc • 9:36p, 10/22/22
What should the FBI done after Trump (or attorney) lied about returning the documents, said pretty please?
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In reply to Manhattan • 10:09p, 10/22/22
should have done nothing

president can declassifiy documents

this was an insurrectiin
Old Army has gone to hell.
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In reply to Old Army Ghost • 10:15p, 10/22/22
Then trump or his attorney should have said that in June instead of lying to the FBI.
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In reply to dermdoc • 10:23p, 10/22/22
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
Look in the mirror, you refuse to admit that the raid was because they lied to the fbi.
The raid was not necessary.

Especially for nothing of importance.

Has never happened before. For any reason.

It happened because it was Trump.

We all know that. You just will not admit it.



The raid was necessary to get the documents back. If Trump didn't want to give the documents back he could have gone to the courts instead of lying.


Totally wrong. There never had to be a raid.


Correct. DOJ and NARA asked nicely for 18 months. There didn't need to be a raid. All Trump had to do was not steal and retain classified docs and not lie in response to a subpoena.

He thought Garland didn't have the balls to do anything about it.
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10:50p, 10/22/22
AG
What? You two still don't have anything? Shocked.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 11:05p, 10/22/22
AG
Whistle Pig said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
Look in the mirror, you refuse to admit that the raid was because they lied to the fbi.
The raid was not necessary.

Especially for nothing of importance.

Has never happened before. For any reason.

It happened because it was Trump.

We all know that. You just will not admit it.



The raid was necessary to get the documents back. If Trump didn't want to give the documents back he could have gone to the courts instead of lying.


Totally wrong. There never had to be a raid.


Correct. DOJ and NARA asked nicely for 18 months. There didn't need to be a raid. All Trump had to do was not steal and retain classified docs and not lie in response to a subpoena.

He thought Garland didn't have the balls to do anything about it.
So you endorse a raid about nothing?

Where is the beef?

Why do this?

You are smart enough to know how this works. It is all political.
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11:08p, 10/22/22
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Keep in mind, Manhattan and Whistle also are of the ilk that think FBI raiding the home of a pro-life activist for shoving a man acting aggressively towards his son is A-OKAY.

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11:12p, 10/22/22
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Well the Left has a totalitarian bent.

The thing that really stands out is how the big bombshell lie about nuclear secrets leak this or thats turned out to be just that--a lie. Never doubted the falsity of it for a second.
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In reply to titan • 11:16p, 10/22/22
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In reply to dermdoc • 12:24a, 10/23/22
dermdoc said:
Whistle Pig said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
Look in the mirror, you refuse to admit that the raid was because they lied to the fbi.
The raid was not necessary.

Especially for nothing of importance.

Has never happened before. For any reason.

It happened because it was Trump.

We all know that. You just will not admit it.



The raid was necessary to get the documents back. If Trump didn't want to give the documents back he could have gone to the courts instead of lying.


Totally wrong. There never had to be a raid.


Correct. DOJ and NARA asked nicely for 18 months. There didn't need to be a raid. All Trump had to do was not steal and retain classified docs and not lie in response to a subpoena.

He thought Garland didn't have the balls to do anything about it.
So you endorse a raid about nothing?

Where is the beef?

Why do this?

You are smart enough to know how this works. It is all political.


The beef has already been slapped on your forehead 300 times. What are you pretending not to understand?



"We returned all the documents marked classified"


Documents marked classified.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 12:38a, 10/23/22
its not classified if trump declassified it regardless of marking

keep trying
Old Army has gone to hell.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 12:46a, 10/23/22
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Whistle Pig said:
dermdoc said:
Whistle Pig said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
dermdoc said:
Manhattan said:
Look in the mirror, you refuse to admit that the raid was because they lied to the fbi.
The raid was not necessary.

Especially for nothing of importance.

Has never happened before. For any reason.

It happened because it was Trump.

We all know that. You just will not admit it.



The raid was necessary to get the documents back. If Trump didn't want to give the documents back he could have gone to the courts instead of lying.


Totally wrong. There never had to be a raid.


Correct. DOJ and NARA asked nicely for 18 months. There didn't need to be a raid. All Trump had to do was not steal and retain classified docs and not lie in response to a subpoena.

He thought Garland didn't have the balls to do anything about it.
So you endorse a raid about nothing?

Where is the beef?

Why do this?

You are smart enough to know how this works. It is all political.


The beef has already been slapped on your forehead 300 times. What are you pretending not to understand?



"We returned all the documents marked classified"


Documents marked classified.


how many of those were there when they got there, and how many were dropped on the floor by the fbi agent in charge?
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 7:55a, 10/23/22
Trump blurted out that they were nicely organized in boxes and not on the floor, so we know they were there.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 8:04a, 10/23/22
This is one of my favorite objections. That the FBI took pictures of the actual documents instead of just the boxes they found them in.

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its not classified if trump declassified it regardless of marking

keep trying

Nobody seriously buys the ridiculous post hoc lie excuse that he declassified them. Regardless, the subpoena was for all documents marked classified.
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8:10a, 10/23/22
Trump said:
"They took them out of cartons and spread them around on the carpet, making it look like a big 'find' for them," he wrote. "They dropped them, not me Very deceiving…"


I think he woulda said they brought them if they weren't already there.
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8:18a, 10/23/22
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I wonder if Manhattan and Whistle Pig will ever realize that many of us, including most of the public, don't care about this because there is no equal application of the law between Democrats and not Democrats in this country.

If Hillary and the Biden's are not going to be held accountable for any of their known transgressions, then most of us don't give a **** about a petty argument over some docs that were locked up at Trumps estate.
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In reply to Manhattan • 8:23a, 10/23/22
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Another day. Another nothing for you two. We'll check again tomorrow.
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In reply to YouBet • 8:26a, 10/23/22
You seem to be conceding that Trump broke the law here. Most aren't. Your only objection is that it shouldn't be prosecuted because "everybody does it".

No not everybody does it. Not everybody steals classified documents, special access, signals intelligence, and lies about having them in response to a subpoena.

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In reply to Whistle Pig • 8:32a, 10/23/22
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Whistle Pig said:
You seem to be conceding that Trump broke the law here. Most aren't. Your only objection is that it shouldn't be prosecuted because "everybody does it".

No not everybody does it. Not everybody steals classified documents, special access, signals intelligence, and lies about having them in response to a subpoena.
Probably because he didn't since he has executive power to do what he did. Regardless, I don't care.

I will start caring again when Democrats doing the same stuff (and worse) are held accountable.
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In reply to YouBet • 8:38a, 10/23/22
What "executive power" gives a former president the right to steal classified documents and hide them from a grand jury subpoena? I've never heard of this power before.

The only time something like this happened before was with Nixon vs GSA but this was over government records that were embarrassed to him, not top secret docs. And he lost the case.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 8:57a, 10/23/22
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Whistle Pig said:
What "executive power" gives a former president the right to steal classified documents and hide them from a grand jury subpoena? I've never heard of this power before.

The only time something like this happened before was with Nixon vs GSA but this was over government records that were embarrassed to him, not top secret docs. And he lost the case.
He declassified them. So your premise is arguable while you assume he stole them.

But even if it turns out his declassification privilege doesn't cover this scenario....i don't care.

Secret bathroom servers, quid pro quos in Ukraine and China, f'ing Chinese spies while on the Homeland Security Committee... It goes on an on and on so forgive me if I can't get upset about a few documents locked up in Trump's mansion. It frankly doesn't matter.
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In reply to YouBet • 9:07a, 10/23/22
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He declassified them.

Not even Trump will make this claim in court nor in 18 months of negotiation with NARA.

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So your premise is arguable while you assume he stole them

Even if declassified, which they weren't, they are still government records, not his.
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In reply to Whistle Pig • 9:11a, 10/23/22
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Whistle Pig said:
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He declassified them.

Not even Trump will make this claim in court nor in 18 months of negotiation with NARA.

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So your premise is arguable while you assume he stole them

Even if declassified, which they weren't, they are still government records, not his.
Well, whatever. Most people don't care and it doesn't really matter.

Talk to me when the law truly matters again.
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