So based on last couple election cycles we know that the Soros, Obama, Hillary klan control the DNC, and also the DoJ since Biden came to office. I think the odds are way under valued on HRC getting the dem nomination in 2024.

This time, instead of a Russia Collusion campaign strategy, it will be a Jan 6 MAGA incitement narrative already being ginned up now. But with mail ballot cheating mixed in. Fortunately I think she will still lose, and hopefully after posting a child pic of herself again.

Libs will talk hard and pump others, but ultimately bend the knee for her like they did after DNC railroaded Bernie in 2016.

DNC is very unforgiving of candidates who lose. Those who lose to Trump even moreso.

DNC still run by Podesta cronies, aka Clinton cronies. Assuming Biden keeps declining at this rate and the Hunter laptop stuff blows up, he is out. Then you have establishment dems and media doing what DNC wants beneath him. Unless there is a new independent anti-establishment dem that comes on the scene, or someone with celeb appeal, I think HRC odds improve from today.

D-Fens said:

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Probably right. But if you start seeing money flowing into the Clinton Foundation, that will be a dead giveaway cabbage farts is cooking something up.

Soros is getting old, so if she does run, it will have to be soon.

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https://www.ocregister.com/2021/12/12/as-clinton-foundation-donations-plunge-questions-raised/amp/

Snip from article

If there was a contest for least surprising headline of 2021, first prize would go to DailyCaller.com for this winner from last week: "Ethics Experts Alarmed by 93% Decrease in Clinton Foundation Donations Since $250 Million Peak in 2009."

I'm certain she is running with the way she has come out from under her rock.

Maybe looking for a cabinet post, lots of cabinet posts do not serve 4 years
Which is a sign that these secretaries don't do real work but just grift for a couple years then go back to lobbying. Been going for decades.

She'll be way further right than she'll run as.

Hell, she's more conservative than some republicans. She loves wallstreet

Just thought I'd put this here:

I mean, there is NO ONE as gutsy as GCF!

clobby said:

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Can we get non-geriatrics in the presidential race?

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Boomers still got a little boom left in 'em.

Hillary will very likely be our next president. And she will actually be pretty moderate compared to the modern dem party and the Bill Maher's and Joe Rogan's of the world will credit her with saving the dem party and "bringing it back to the middle". She will serve 8 years and then I think Michelle Obama might be the candidate after that.

Bookmark this. People need to learn to expect the shocking.

Can't start the Sunday Funday drinking too early, right OP?

When the dem establishment says the "country" can't survive another Trump like candidate, they mean the "dem establishment" can't survive. If anyone is going to save them, it won't be Biden or a DC outsider. So who? Mike Obama?

HRC is on the record for staying on sidelines as long as Biden is in the running. If Biden drops out, Hillarys odds rocket to double digits.

Newsom seems to be gaining momentum. Living in very liberal Denver I've seen a few Newsom tshirts and stickers and a handful of liberal friends have starred talking him up.

The DNC would love for it be Buttigieg but a Mayor Pete as the nominee keeps the black voters stay at home.

D-Fens said:

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When the dem establishment says the "country" can't survive another Trump like candidate, they mean the "dem establishment" can't survive. If anyone is going to save them, it won't be Biden or a DC outsider. So who? Mike Obama?

HRC is on the record for staying on sidelines as long as Biden is in the running. If Biden drops out, Hillarys odds rocket to double digits.

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Depends on if Hillary has the financial leverage over the DNC like she had in 2016. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was a disaster at fundraising for the DNC. Even Donna Brazile was aghast at the finances of the DNC when she took over after the convention.

I don't think Tom Perez was all that great either when he was DNC head. Speaking of which, O had to look up who is the current head of the DNC.

From January of this year:

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Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison is frustrated, isolated and trapped in a job he long thought he wanted, according to party insiders, a dynamic driven by escalating tensions with the White House over his role.

Key decisions for the committee are made by White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jen O'Malley Dillon, who speaks frequently with other DNC officials but only about three times a month by Zoom with Harrison. The limits of his influence are a source of agitation for Harrison, according to several people who have spoken to him.

At the same time, he's not flying to meet with donors or visiting DNC headquarters. Instead, since he first took the post a year ago, Harrison has mostly stayed in his home state of South Carolina, according to people familiar with his schedule, as well as people who frequently see him around town. That has been a major point of consternation for the White House.

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Link

Doesn't sound much better.

At this point, I'm only willing to go as far as saying that Biden won't be the nom again. Nobody in his party wants him back if there are any other viable options at all.

YouBet said:

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At this point, I'm only willing to go as far as saying that Biden won't be the nom again. Nobody in his party wants him back if there are any other viable options at all.

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Agreed. Take that Biden 36 cents out of the odds and see what happens to Hillary. I'm expecting that to happen, then go net free on the Hillary bet the rest of the way. Her headwinds duly pointed out on this thread. But never underestimate a murdering sociopath like Hillary to "will" her nomination into existence.

I think it's very likely her people are behind the DoJ Mar a Lago strategy, and if that's the case, it shows both her leverage in dem party and potential interest in running.

Hammerly High Dive Crips said:

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Hillary will very likely be our next president. And she will actually be pretty moderate compared to the modern dem party and the Bill Maher's and Joe Rogan's of the world will credit her with saving the dem party and "bringing it back to the middle". She will serve 8 years and then I think Michelle Obama might be the candidate after that.

Bookmark this. People need to learn to expect the shocking.

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Like Nostradamus backed up by the most extensive voter fraud machine in USA history. 81MM*

Ragsdale swimming reaper thinks Mike is overkill.

It would be a divine gift if the Dems nominated Hillary again. A historically bad candidate.

She has flat out stated that she is not running again but then again she is a fat ass liar so who knows at this point. But I honestly don't think so.

YouBet said:

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At this point, I'm only willing to go as far as saying that Biden won't be the nom again. Nobody in his party wants him back if there are any other viable options at all.

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I'm not even sure Biden will still be breathing by the election 2024. He most likely will be completely hidden by that point and incoherent.

Like Trump, she's too old.

(Yes, that's the least of her negatives, I know.)

D-Fens said:

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So based on last couple election cycles we know that the Soros, Obama, Hillary klan control the DNC, and also the DoJ since Biden came to office. I think the odds are way under valued on HRC getting the dem nomination in 2024.

This time, instead of a Russia Collusion campaign strategy, it will be a Jan 6 MAGA incitement narrative already being ginned up now. But with mail ballot cheating mixed in. Fortunately I think she will still lose, and hopefully after posting a child pic of herself again.

Libs will talk hard and pump others, but ultimately bend the knee for her like they did after DNC railroaded Bernie in 2016.

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Any time I think Hillary is going to look at this graphic I buy Tito's stock.

aggiehawg said:

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LOL. Dems have no bench. They have The ever dwindling squad, instead.

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What are you talking about? They have the most outstanding Presidential candidate ever to chest feed in Mayor Pete!

She'll be 76 when and if she runs in '24. Won't be able to argue Trump too old, especially with her past reports of bad health.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Newsom seems to be gaining momentum. Living in very liberal Denver I've seen a few Newsom tshirts and stickers and a handful of liberal friends have starred talking him up.

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Here in Kalifornia, I've never seen a Newsom t-shirt or bumper sticker. And even though 2/3rds of voters went for Newsom, I've never heard anybody in Cali say a single good word about him.

So that's extra funny the libs in Denver are promoting him.

What are they saying as the Pro-Gavin Newsom talking points?

Does anyone who posts or stars a 0% chance of Hillary running or winning dem nom, want to put their money where their mouth is and bet me?

If so, what odds will you give me on your 0% expectation?

HollywoodBQ said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Newsom seems to be gaining momentum. Living in very liberal Denver I've seen a few Newsom tshirts and stickers and a handful of liberal friends have starred talking him up.

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Here in Kalifornia, I've never seen a Newsom t-shirt or bumper sticker. And even though 2/3rds of voters went for Newsom, I've never heard anybody in Cali say a single good word about him.

So that's extra funny the libs in Denver are promoting him.

What are they saying as the Pro-Gavin Newsom talking points?

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Nothing of substance. Mostly he's young, attractive, and well known.