So three out of five did get Covid and you felt like CRAP for five days.
Pretty good odds you could should go to Vegas.

I agree. It's not as if when you get COVID you could spread it to others.

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Covid response revealed that the majority of doctors lack critical thinking skills and are sheep.

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That is kind of surprising no matter how you slice it. Its just not what one would have expected last centruy, but it is kind of what you did see now. Perhaps the explanation lies if medical school is anything like normal college these days with all its agendas and group-think, then it would explain much.

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I took mine and couldn't be happier I did. I recently got COVID and the symptoms have been very mild

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Damn that sucks. So your symptoms were worse than the majority of people who didnt even know they had it or had no symptoms.

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Responses like these are pointless, other than being an *******. Why the hell do you feel the need to try to make him feel somehow wrong for taking it? Do you win a medal if you survive without it?

So you got it. I didn't and I got the shot and boosters… hmmmmm
STEM major?

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So you got it. I didn't and I got the shot and boosters… hmmmmm
STEM major?

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Good job

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This is why the lay public shouldn't have access to medical literature because they have no ability to interpret whether the publication is scientifically and medically valid.

First, this is publication is in an obscure journal from a foreign country. This screams for being very careful in assessing validity.

Review of the pathology in this case reveals that the vascular occlusions are very old, likely months or years.

Covid vaccination was far too recent to have caused these microvascular occlusions.

This 84 year old woman likely has diffuse small vessel disease (from any number of systemic diseases) that put her at high risk of peripheral ischemia likely in many tissues from a very wide variety of insults. It is also highly likely that the temporal association with the vaccination is entirely coincidental.

My guess is that you are likely very good at your profession. I would advise you to have a highly experienced physician who is an expert in the area a scientific article is concerned with before attempting to medically or scientifically quote the literature.

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I'll consider your advice if you can guarantee me that next time there is something akin to china virus the medical profession will remain professionaly detatched from politics and not just become the medical propagandists and shills for the left!

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I agree. It's not as if when you get COVID you could spread it to others.

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Are you implying that by getting the shot you won't catch Covid and subsequently pass it on to others? Because that seems like the case but I know there is no way you believe that. Please tell me I misread your post and you're not the stupidest STEM/DR/blow hard on the planet

The more severe your case the longer you will probably have symptoms and so the longer you will be a danger to other people as you shed the virus more easily to others.
Also, if you don't take the shot you're more likely to make your kids orphaned.
Questions Einstein?

I took the jab and nearly died as a result. Have never had Covid and sure as **** will not be taking a different version or any boosters. You aren't smarter than anyone here. Well, maybe one or two people.

No I'm just a doc that's in Mensa. So the very best minds in medicine have it wrong… I see
I teach research and statistics to grad students. Check out the concepts of a normal distribution.

So the shot worked.

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No I'm just a doc that's in Mensa. So the very best minds in medicine have it wrong… I see
I teach research and statistics to grad students. Check out the concepts of a normal distribution.

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This is the type of arrogance that got us in this mess to begin with.

He's yet another sock.

Eating freaking bat soup is what got us into trouble. Who does that?

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Eating freaking bat soup is what got us into trouble. Who does that?

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He must be a sock if he still believes this.

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So you got it. I didn't and I got the shot and boosters… hmmmmm
STEM major?

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No shot for me, and I've purposely tried to get it...nothing.

STEM major, here. MENSA IQ, but didn't join a club literally named "stupid".

Covid and the reaction to covid was mind-bending.

We've transcended reality with all this and we ain't going back.

Long term problem is that a huge chunk of the population has lost all credibility with a smaller chunk of the population.

Experts and people in positions of authority have lost all credibility with me and it ain't coming back.

So thats where we at in 2022.

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The more severe your case the longer you will probably have symptoms and so the longer you will be a danger to other people as you shed the virus more easily to others.
Also, if you don't take the shot you're more likely to make your kids orphaned.
Questions Einstein?

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I'm going to write this off as a case of trolling. Well done, you hooked quite a few people.

You're O+

I am sure that 80% of the people on this board consciously got the shot. Idiots!

Same here. Personal choice, just like flu vaccine. Do not fear. Over 400 times in the Bible God says don't fear anything, except Him. If you biblically fear God you will be given the power to make rational decisions based on facts and not fear. The way this country and the world reacted to a virus shows just how far removed most people are from a healthy respect and fear of the one sovereign God , and His son Jesus Christ.

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So three out of five did get Covid and you felt like CRAP for five days.
Pretty good odds you could should go to Vegas.

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No, I didn't get sick at all. To clarify, I was in the room and slept in the same bed with my wife who was running the fever. I was seriously exposed is my point. I'm 52, 5,11, 207lbs, asthmatic. Not the picture of health.

I'm sick and tired of arguing this nonsense.

2-years straight we've been in a cycle of **** talking about the same **** day after day.

People have lost their minds.

Its a bitter pill when you step back and look at the big picture.

Covid altered humanity and we cant unring that bell.

We in uncharted waters.

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You're O+

I am sure that 80% of the people on this board consciously got the shot. Idiots!

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And, most people here are.

Blood type percentages

Blood Group / RH Status Percentage
O Positive (O +) 38 %
O Negative (O -) 7 %
A Positive (A +) 34 %
A Negative (A -) 6 %
B Positive (B +) 9 %
B Negative (B -) 2 %
AB Positive (AB +) 3 %
AB Negative (AB -) 1 %

Seriously, I'm glad that everyone's OK

Conversation with my doctor in January:

Doc: Have you had a COVID vaccine?
Me: No
Doc: Do you want one?
Me: No
Doc: Cool.

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Vaccines being a topic of discussion during a political convention indicates to me we have gone off the rails. None of us could have imagined vaccines being a wedge issue 10 years ago.

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Probably because the Covid shot ended up not being an actual vaccine.

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So what. Vaccines are not bad and Trumps Operation Warp Speed was everything it should have been. The fact vaccine usage is now a way to define your political party is undeniably dumb. We need better things to debate about.

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People lost their jobs and livelihoods over this shot. Personal freedoms were violated. That's what makes it political.

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The shot did all that? Or our response to the shot?

Parents used to lose their access to public education because they were against getting their kids vaccines. Were was the debate then? Corporations may or may not have been wrong about vaccines requirements but isnt that already outside of the government purview?

Maybe fight the shutdowns and school closures instead.
Oh and end the dependency on government healthcare entitlements.

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Semantics.

When vaccines are forced, they're political. Period.

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When and by whom were they forced? I havent been forced to take it. My kids haven't.

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You got an answer chief or only gifs and ad hominem attacks?
Vaccines are often required by newborns with 24 hrs and children attending school yet they weren't a wedge issue. Even though there's no obvious benefit to vaccines for things like chicken pox or HPV. People allowed politics to enter the picture and both used their vaccine status as some sort of lame virtue signal.

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approved vaccines that went through the standard full FDA approval process - this isn't even a standard vaccine and was rushed through for approval. The original release was under emergency approval which by itself means it is an optional procedure. You are being obtuse by ignoring the real world outcomes. I guess you missed the illegal use of OSHA to force vaccination - thank god the court struck it down.

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It's even worse than not going through full fda approval process - if the fda approves it for children (and they did eventually) Pfizer receives immunity from being sued period. Government people and insiders got rich - people are under illusion they and kids are safe. By the way the fda and nih and a lot of other government agencies get a lot of money from drugs - also there is a big bru haha about who developed mRNA between government (nih-fauci) and private companies. There is a lot of money at stake here plus other motives.

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We have real, proven vaccines that have been shown to prevent several very bad diseases. The anti-vax movement used to be a fringe, but I'm afraid it will take decades to undo the damage caused by the circus of the last couple of years.

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Very true statement from someone not vaxxed but the real shame is the distrust myself and many others now have with the medical establishment. I now have a sour taste in my mouth for medical doctors.

One thing is certain from reading this thread: Both pro- and anti-vaxxers are ****ing dumb when it comes to the vaccines.

I haven't seen any anti-vaxxers on this thread.

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I haven't seen any anti-vaxxers on this thread.

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anti jabbers.

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I believe people who got the jab are going to regret it in the coming years. EVERYONE I know who had or has Covid recently are vaxxed and boosted, one friend got just got out ICU after a cluster of blood clots were removed from his lungs. He is Fully vaxxed and triple boosted.

"It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled." Mark Twain

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The difficulty will be in differentiating the vaxxed vs non-vaxxed relative to the clotting issue. Covid was causing clotting issues before the vaccines were even widely available, so anyone who has been vaxxed and caught Covid could be subject to clotting from either source.

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Ghost of Bizbee said:

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I took mine and couldn't be happier I did. I recently got COVID and the symptoms have been very mild

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It would have been mild regardless.

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Ghost of Bizbee said:

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I took mine and couldn't be happier I did. I recently got COVID and the symptoms have been very mild

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IT'S SCIENCE

Paul Dirac said:

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No I'm just a doc that's in Mensa. So the very best minds in medicine have it wrong… I see
I teach research and statistics to grad students. Check out the concepts of a normal distribution.

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ok, Mensa. That's nice. I deal in money and common sense at an extremely high level as a professional for a living, so I'll give you a free one: anyone that flouts membership in Mensa as some sort of qualification or authority for their commentary may be quite intelligent but certainly isn't very smart.