.01% and .03% 3x the risk.

Overall risk is VERY low under 65.

But ThReE TiMeS! But, you know, math.

dermdoc said:

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Yep.

And somehow we are the dumb ones.

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I KNOW why I got it so bad.

I'm FAT and pre-diabetic.

Duh...

And yes, I know I need to fix that, but...

I'm also LAZY and like beer.

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Ghost of Bizbee said:

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I took mine and couldn't be happier I did. I recently got COVID and the symptoms have been very mild

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An instant classic

baron_von_awesome said:

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WOAHHHH


WTF!!!!

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got alpha covid before the vax, took ivermectin, and my symptoms were mild and I was back working after 2 days.

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What was the dosage you used.

AggiePops said:

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So, is the ignorance on display in this thread real, or just ornery folks being deliberately obtuse?

No evidence of effectiveness? Each vaccine was tested on tens of thousands of participants prior to approval and shown to be effective in at least ameliorating severe COVID effects in the vast majority of infections.

Did ANYONE ever say any of the vaccines was 100% effective in preventing infection? No. The two major vaccines were reported to have effectiveness for up to 93% of those taking it. Meaning it would have no effect for around 7% of those taking it. As to those who did benefit from it, the benefit was expected to range from not getting infected to reducing the severity of symptoms. Hospital records bear this out, as the vast majority of severe complications and deaths have been among those not vaccinated. And of course, we all know COVID has ever been a perverse bug that hit some people hard and others little, if at all.

Current vaccine status? The vaccines were formulated to combat the original COVID bug. There have been a bunch of mutations since the vaccines came out. Surely posters here are intelligent enough to realize that the original effectiveness would be lessened as the target bug has shifted. Think zeroing in a scope for a target at 300 yards, then the target moves to a position uphill into a windy area 500 yards away.

The vaccines have always been meant to provide some level of protection to those most vulnerable. Except for a few, extremely rare exceptions (ever see any TV ads for new wonder drugs that warn of potential side effects up to and including death?) the vaccines help many and hurt almost none. The incidence of problems from the vaccines are far lower than a great many popular medicines.

Should everyone be vaccinated? Not if you don't want to be. Other than the first year it came out I've never taken the flu vaccine. The possibility of getting the flu doesn't bother me. Same for any of you with the COVID vaccines, but don't dismiss a medication that HAS benefitted a great many people.

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Can you define vaccine please?

AlaskanAg99 said:

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.01% and .03% 3x the risk.

Overall risk is VERY low under 65.

But ThReE TiMeS! But, you know, math.

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This.

Remember that study that showed the wide disparity between political affiliations when it was asked what the chances of death and/or hospitalization were should someone become infected?

Refresh my memory......which party was closer to the actual numbers by a mile?


"But Democrats got it wrong again when it came to rates of hospitalization. The actual rate is 1-5% but 41% of Democrats put the hospitalization rate at 50+ percent, which is way off. Meanwhile, Republicans were 2 1/2 times as likely to give the correct answer."

Had it twice, no vaccine and never will have the vaccine. The first time was June 2020 and it was tiring with some brain fog but that was the worst of it. The second time I was bored out of my mind.

The second time I had it I was exposed by my vaccinated mother who, coincidentally, had symptoms much worse than mine. She is also seeing a new cardiologist later this week for a condition she didn't previously have... Coincidentally.

Coincidentially

I recently went to my doctor she asked if I'd gotten a booster. Told her nope because it didn't seem effective and I'm in great shape with a solid immune system. She said ok and that was that.

Just had a doctor visit. I was vaxxed very early on and have had the real thing since. The topic of any sort of booster was not raised by either of us.

Ghost of Bizbee said:

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I took mine and couldn't be happier I did. I recently got COVID and the symptoms have been very mild

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I NEVER took the vaccine, got COVID back in January and the symptoms were very mild.

52 year old man in decent shape athletically. Non-homosexual (meaning no activity to mess with my immune system).

We've lost our gd minds with all this.

Took my kids to the pediatrician yesterday and had to get their school forms filled out. The doc stated she won't sign any school physical forms on kids who have had the Covid vaccine without them first getting an ekg. Too much liability. Also, if you look at Schmitt-Thomson pediatric telephone triage protocols, under the chest pain protocol, if the kid has had a recent Covid vaccine, that is an automatic ED referral.

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The doc stated she won't sign any school physical forms on kids who have had the Covid vaccine without them first getting an ekg.

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Same thing for sports physicals up here in Colorado. Neither of my girls (who have had COVID) got the vax and we saw similar verbiage their requirements. Not only am I glad that they are not vax'd, I feel even luckier that their pediatrician was ardently opposed to them getting the jab as well!

01agtx said:

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Took my kids to the pediatrician yesterday and had to get their school forms filled out. The doc stated she won't sign any school physical forms on kids who have had the Covid vaccine without them first getting an ekg. Too much liability. Also, if you look at Schmitt-Thomson pediatric telephone triage protocols, under the chest pain protocol, if the kid has had a recent Covid vaccine, that is an automatic ED referral.

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Good, we need more doctors doing this. The vax is dangerous as hell and I am frankly amazed insurance companies are still supporting it given how much the death rates have increased from it.

just got back from my annual checkup. Doc asked me if I had my boosters and I said no. She proceeded to give me the sales pitch and I said no thanks. She says well if you do think you have covid we have a new treatment. It suppresses covid virus but you have to take it very early or there's no point. So get tested early if you think you might be infected. I say, yeah, I think I've heard about that. It's called Iver something right? LOL the look on her face was priceless. She says NO! Its Paxlovid!

Sounds like she's on the Covid payroll.

I took all 4 shots and now I'm just waiting

I don't have kids, so students have to get a physical in order to attend school?

And if they are vaxxed they have to get an EKG? Or is this just if they're in sports?

so the best way to survive covid is to just not read about it like the Amish people... if you dont read about it, dont test for it, dont even talk about it .. covid does absolutely nothing to people.. maybe we need to listen to the Amish people a little more often?

AlaskanAg99 said:

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I don't have kids, so students have to get a physical in order to attend school?

And if they are vaxxed they have to get an EKG? Or is this just if they're in sports?

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I can't speak for all kids but at my kid's school, everyone has to have a physical, so not just for sports. Our pediatrician said she would not sign off on any physical for kids who had the Covid vax, unless they had an EKG first. She said she has seen too many kids with heart issues to feel comfortable signing off.

01agtx said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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I don't have kids, so students have to get a physical in order to attend school?

And if they are vaxxed they have to get an EKG? Or is this just if they're in sports?

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I can't speak for all kids but at my kid's school, everyone has to have a physical, so not just for sports. Our pediatrician said she would not sign off on any physical for kids who had the Covid vax, unless they had an EKG first. She said she has seen too many kids with heart issues to feel comfortable signing off.

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That is absolutely bonkers. How many doctors are requiring this?!
I'm non-vax, so I'm not surprised, but there has to be some sort of documented set of caseloads to justify this.

I've had 3 EKG's in my life, 2 were before major back surgery. I can't imagine every damn kid needing one and it not being headline news.

01agtx said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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I don't have kids, so students have to get a physical in order to attend school?

And if they are vaxxed they have to get an EKG? Or is this just if they're in sports?

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I can't speak for all kids but at my kid's school, everyone has to have a physical, so not just for sports. Our pediatrician said she would not sign off on any physical for kids who had the Covid vax, unless they had an EKG first. She said she has seen too many kids with heart issues to feel comfortable signing off.

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That's kind of alarming....and infuriating.

AlaskanAg99 said:

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01agtx said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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I don't have kids, so students have to get a physical in order to attend school?

And if they are vaxxed they have to get an EKG? Or is this just if they're in sports?

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I can't speak for all kids but at my kid's school, everyone has to have a physical, so not just for sports. Our pediatrician said she would not sign off on any physical for kids who had the Covid vax, unless they had an EKG first. She said she has seen too many kids with heart issues to feel comfortable signing off.

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That is absolutely bonkers. How many doctors are requiring this?!
I'm non-vax, so I'm not surprised, but there has to be some sort of documented set of caseloads to justify this.

I've had 3 EKG's in my life, 2 were before major back surgery. I can't imagine every damn kid needing one and it not being headline news.

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You answered your questionable remark……headline news.