Funky Winkerbean said:
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Shut down every golf course. There is no producer on earth that can afford the rate of application that goes on at a golf course. A farmer will fertilize at a rate to produce 200 to 300 bushels of corn per acre. Golf course rates are at 1,500 to 3,500 bushels per acre. In some cases rates will exceed, just depends if the golf course can keep the water poured on it. .... Oh yeah,....water..
Then let's see if the Greenies really want to go down this road. Take away the golf courses? That just might hit a nerve. No one is talking about these users, are they?
This is your original statement..you clearly stated that farmers fertilize to PRODUCE 200-300 bushels of corn per acre. You then state that golf courses fertilize at rates to produce 1,500 to 3,500 bushels per acre. Correct?
I stated that golf courses do not fertilize to produce a yield rate. The harvest of grass clippings is not measured. Ever.
I asked you to support your claim with some sort of link to support your claim and it seems to have ruffled your feathers. That's on you.
Most golf courses fertilize their greens in the range of 6-12 lbs N/1000 per year. The greens typically are 4.5 acres total, per course. Fairways are typically 2-3 lbs N/1000 and encompass roughly 50 acres. It's ruled by economics, not Agronomy.
Since all you can do is spout anger and toot your own horn, I'll consider this conversation over as you won't provide any data to support your original assertion. You also fail to realize that golf is an industry just as farming is an industry. We create jobs, pay taxes and provide a service of recreation to our customers. You obviously have a bias against golf. That's fine as everyone has a right to an opinion. Why don't you include all recreational sports turf in your rants? Baseball fields? Football? Soccer? Cricket? Polo?
And I had Dr Hons.
Farmers in Central TX alone will fertilize corn to produce 100 bu/ac at a rate (your units) of 3.2 lbs N/1000.
Okay, 3.2 lbs is what relation/rate/percent of 6-12 lbs N/1000? Let's see, the farm appears to be half/50% vs the golf course rate. Or, another way to state the same info is, the golf course is double to quadruple the farm rate, or your golf course is applying at a "rate" of 200 to ~400 bu/ac. Are you catching on yet? These are your numbers converted to a bushels/ac relationship. (Note: "Rate" is the operative word. Had you read that in my original post you would have gone down your path.) ... I don't know your golf course location and really not interested, other courses will be using rates higher than your stated rate. And, if those courses have the water to flush, they do it. (Note: "water" was a another key word you missed.) I have no concern if you have issues with a farm being 10,000 acres and a golf course being less that 40 acres, we are addressing "rate" based on over use and misapplication of synthetic fertilizers from richardag's post.
You come out swinging from the start making this personal - posting I don't know what I'm talking about, telling me to stay in my lane. You state golf courses don't manage to a desired yield. I never said they did, but you assume a lot. Then you follow up telling me how you are degreed qualified to speak on the subject. Last, you take to the soap box trying to portend the greatness of golf, its jobs and taxes paid, are something I overlooked and why not pick on other sports. I "countered" responded to each of your arguments and then you finish this debate by posting that I am angry, toot my own horn, ruffled feathers, etc. I only responded to your statements. I think you need to look in the mirror, and ask yourself if you jumped in too quick, assumed a lot, and could not compute what message was being conveyed.
You never answered my original question - How do you know that I don't know[?]....because you can't. You already knew that, but would not admit it. However, you did meander around multiple topics that had some relation to the original statement and I enjoyed that.
By the way,...if you want to discuss the amount of "water used to irrigate" U.S. golf courses and instead use that amount of water to irrigate the U.S. corn crop, I can convey to you how the U.S. Corn Supply/Demand would be impacted (yield) and the price impact to the U.S. farmer, retail consumer and international markets. Not sayin'...just sayin'.. (toot! toot!)
Ever catch a cup of runoff from a golf course and have a water lab test it?
Dr. Hons, good man.
You're right, this conversation is over.
Adios!
