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cisgenderedAggie said:

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No BMI is fine. You had it right about fats trying to cope.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

So a 5-star SEC linebacker (or hell, even a safety) in peak physical shape is really obese? BMI is garbage. Or at least our outdated and over simplified ways of measuring it are.

Myles Garrett must only have weeks to live, if BMI is accurate…

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cisgenderedAggie said:

Yes, just like how rare genetic and hormonal conditions that occur in less than 0.1% of the population means that 20% of children are trans and just don't know it yet.

I'm changing my sig for this.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

He is an extreme example and is probably categorized as "super duper morbidly obese" by your standards. There are millions of people that hit the gym regularly and have well above averages of dense/heavy muscle though and don't fare so well in simple BMI tests. Millions.

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BMI isn't perfect, but it does have it's uses:

1) In is a good gauge for the vast majority of the population who are not highly fit, and

2) Any time it is brought up it gives people on the internet an opportunity to discuss how they are much too fit for BMI to be an accurate gauge personally.

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We are definitely a fat society but those numbers are typically over inflated because they use BMI as a measure which is not a good measure.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

BMI is a good solid measure for normal people who don't lift weights and only do cardio or live sedentary lives. For 99% of the population it works.

I'm an obvious exception to the rule because I am huge muscular wise but I recognize I'm not even remotely close to the average person and it's obvious to me just from looking around.

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Squadron7 said:

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BMI isn't perfect, but it does have it's uses:

1) In is a good gauge for the vast majority of the population who are not highly fit, and

2) Any time it is brought up it gives people on the internet an opportunity to discuss how they are much too fit for BMI to be an accurate gauge personally.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

Agreed!

The overall results are accurate enough, but at the individual, the methodology is crap, I am sorry. I get that it gives us close to the results we need for statistics, but anything that is designed to be an accurate gauge of peoples' health and can be so dead f-ing wrong when it comes to people in the best health in the world, is garbage and should probably be tweaked. Herschel Walker has been simultaneously yoked and in peak condition, and morbidly obese his whole life.

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Some of you people are ****ing ridiculous. BMI is one measurement. Only dumb**** trash tabloid media and smart asses like you treat it as some singular metric of health that has "flaws".

For most individuals, it's good enough on an individual basis to ask further questions about whether a person is in decent health or not. If you're some kind of star athlete, you have your answer. Same is true for a couch potato that is skinny because she barely eats between cigarettes and drinking binges. On a population level, it's a damn fine generalization because your borderlines are too few to matter that much. The sharp rise in the last 40 years is in obesity, and it's not because we all became chiseled gods.

So much of stupid American discourse, on all sides, is because of half wits popping off with their funfact outlier just to confuse an issue that's real.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

Nah, this is just fats coping with their own obesity. Go look at pictures from the 1960s and 70s and wow what a shocker, the vast majority of the population would conform to BMI healthy norms.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

BMI is a good solid measure for normal people who don't lift weights and only do cardio or live sedentary lives. For 99% of the population it works.

I'm an obvious exception to the rule because I am huge muscular wise but I recognize I'm not even remotely close to the average person and it's obvious to me just from looking around.

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1939 said:

Thats not true, you don't have to be an athlete or lift weights for BMI to be off.

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Some of you people are ****ing ridiculous. BMI is one measurement. Only dumb**** trash tabloid media and smart asses like you treat it as some singular metric of health that has "flaws".

For most individuals, it's good enough on an individual basis to ask further questions about whether a person is in decent health or not. If you're some kind of star athlete, you have your answer. Same is true for a couch potato that is skinny because she barely eats between cigarettes and drinking binges. On a population level, it's a damn fine generalization because your borderlines are too few to matter that much. The sharp rise in the last 40 years is in obesity, and it's not because we all became chiseled gods.

So much of stupid American discourse, on all sides, is because of half wits popping off with their funfact outlier just to confuse an issue that's real.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

Nah, this is just fats coping with their own obesity. Go look at pictures from the 1960s and 70s and wow what a shocker, the vast majority of the population would conform to BMI healthy norms.

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Rip*91 said:

This is priceless…5'10" - 240 lbs. and criticizing fat people!

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Some of you people are ****ing ridiculous. BMI is one measurement. Only dumb**** trash tabloid media and smart asses like you treat it as some singular metric of health that has "flaws".

For most individuals, it's good enough on an individual basis to ask further questions about whether a person is in decent health or not. If you're some kind of star athlete, you have your answer. Same is true for a couch potato that is skinny because she barely eats between cigarettes and drinking binges. On a population level, it's a damn fine generalization because your borderlines are too few to matter that much. The sharp rise in the last 40 years is in obesity, and it's not because we all became chiseled gods.

So much of stupid American discourse, on all sides, is because of half wits popping off with their funfact outlier just to confuse an issue that's real.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

Nah, this is just fats coping with their own obesity. Go look at pictures from the 1960s and 70s and wow what a shocker, the vast majority of the population would conform to BMI healthy norms.

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Rip*91 said:

This is priceless…5'10" - 240 lbs. and criticizing fat people!

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BAP Enthusiast said:

Alright I'll post physique. I already said I wasn't natural but here you go.

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The BMI chart may be bull**** in some cases but you can see with your eyes that there's a lot of fat people in this country.

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The Fife said:

That's one of the reasons why I gave up on online dating and went back to meeting people the old way. Too many selective angles hiding things, and pictures from Obama's second term when they were 40lbs lighter.

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Pookers said:

I'm getting pretty tired of the online dating thing as well. It's been a massive net negative on humanity in the same way social media has been.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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5'9" 150 lbs.

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You're an exception to the rule. And those exceptions don't make the rule.

I was 5'10" 165 when I graduated HS. 38 years later, I'm still 165 pounds with 32 inch waste. I too am an exception. And my BMI is about 24. And I consider myself almost borderline overweight.

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schmellba99 said:

....and you have no muscle mass and probably have to get your wife to open jars for you.

BMI is a crappy indicator of healthy weight, period.

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5'9" 150 lbs.

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BigRobSA said:

I remember being 12, too.

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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schmellba99 said:

Not really. And a whole mess of people were "skinny" simply because they weren't getting close to the caloric intake they should have because often times (more often than not), food or funds weren't available.

The flip side is that we eat way too much, and poorly today. Somewhere in the middle is where we should be.

But 6'-4 and 145 lbs is unhealthy skinny unless you are Starvin Marvin.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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schmellba99 said:

Not really. And a whole mess of people were "skinny" simply because they weren't getting close to the caloric intake they should have because often times (more often than not), food or funds weren't available.

The flip side is that we eat way too much, and poorly today. Somewhere in the middle is where we should be.

But 6'-4 and 145 lbs is unhealthy skinny unless you are Starvin Marvin.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

It was during the depression, yeah that was normal back then. He made it through 4 years of WWII carrying normal amounts of gear so clearly he was alright.

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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schmellba99 said:

Not really. And a whole mess of people were "skinny" simply because they weren't getting close to the caloric intake they should have because often times (more often than not), food or funds weren't available.

The flip side is that we eat way too much, and poorly today. Somewhere in the middle is where we should be.

But 6'-4 and 145 lbs is unhealthy skinny unless you are Starvin Marvin.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

It was during the depression, yeah that was normal back then. He made it through 4 years of WWII carrying normal amounts of gear so clearly he was alright.

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AggieDruggist89 said:

I would rather be 6'4" 145lb than 6'4" 300 lb with knee and hip replacements.

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

True...why people in Asian countries have far fewer health problems than us. Tall, short, active, lazy...they are all closer to what we used to be.

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Pookers said:

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The Fife said:

That's one of the reasons why I gave up on online dating and went back to meeting people the old way. Too many selective angles hiding things, and pictures from Obama's second term when they were 40lbs lighter.

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Pookers said:

I'm getting pretty tired of the online dating thing as well. It's been a massive net negative on humanity in the same way social media has been.

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Squadron7 said:

Question as it concerns the real number of people for whom a BMI index is accurate: If dating sites required listing a BMI...would you run towards or away from someone that listed a 30?

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

True...why people in Asian countries have far fewer health problems than us. Tall, short, active, lazy...they are all closer to what we used to be.

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schmellba99 said:

Their diet has a hell of a lot more to do with it. Same reason why India has one of the lowest rates of alzheimer's in the world - diet.

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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schmellba99 said:

Not really. And a whole mess of people were "skinny" simply because they weren't getting close to the caloric intake they should have because often times (more often than not), food or funds weren't available.

The flip side is that we eat way too much, and poorly today. Somewhere in the middle is where we should be.

But 6'-4 and 145 lbs is unhealthy skinny unless you are Starvin Marvin.

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BAP Enthusiast said:

It was during the depression, yeah that was normal back then. He made it through 4 years of WWII carrying normal amounts of gear so clearly he was alright.

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AggieDruggist89 said:

I would rather be 6'4" 145lb than 6'4" 300 lb with knee and hip replacements.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

True, but I would also much rather not be either one. I don't think the average human comprehends how skinny 6'4" and 145 would look. People were badasses back then though, regardless of stature.

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Very true…to be fair, and this may be because they don't have much money left over after everything else, I was surprised by how fit the beach goers in Cali were on a recent trip. Far cry from Galveston. Guess they're also just more outdoorsy and active as well. This pic kind of sums up what I saw in Huntington and Venice Beach. They're a bunch of freaks out there, but in pretty darn good shape as far as the eye test goes.



Lol at the f-ing masks tho

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BAP Enthusiast said:

My grandfather was 6'4" and 145 when he went to WWII. People have completely lost touch about what healthy means. He worked hard in the fields growing up and was perfectly fine. Yeah he was a beanpole but this was normal back then and everyone was generally fit.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

True...why people in Asian countries have far fewer health problems than us. Tall, short, active, lazy...they are all closer to what we used to be.

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schmellba99 said:

Their diet has a hell of a lot more to do with it. Same reason why India has one of the lowest rates of alzheimer's in the world - diet.

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

I agree. They don't eat like sh** like so many Americans do.

Enlighten me on that last part though...I'm intrigued.

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You're an exception to the rule. And those exceptions don't make the rule.

I was 5'10" 165 when I graduated HS. 38 years later, I'm still 165 pounds with 32 inch waste. I too am an exception. And my BMI is about 24. And I consider myself almost borderline overweight.

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schmellba99 said:

....and you have no muscle mass and probably have to get your wife to open jars for you.

BMI is a crappy indicator of healthy weight, period.

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AggieDruggist89 said:

You must be fat...

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You're an exception to the rule. And those exceptions don't make the rule.

I was 5'10" 165 when I graduated HS. 38 years later, I'm still 165 pounds with 32 inch waste. I too am an exception. And my BMI is about 24. And I consider myself almost borderline overweight.

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schmellba99 said:

....and you have no muscle mass and probably have to get your wife to open jars for you.

BMI is a crappy indicator of healthy weight, period.

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AggieDruggist89 said:

You must be fat...

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schmellba99 said:

I prefer chubby.

But I can open my own jar and don't have to call AAA or ask my wife to break a lugnut free on a tire because I have muscle, so there's that.

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