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And they fired Tim Allen

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These aren't the same characters.
Tim Allen voiced the toy. Chris Evans voices the Astronaut that the toy was based on.

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Aren't toys that are made from movies often voiced by the actor from the movie? If the toy's voice was Tim Allen, why wouldn't the movie character also be???

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Now we have darn near 20% of adolescents claiming to be gay.

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This is incorrect, nearly 20% of the youngest generation claims LGBTQ affiliation. This rise has been driven almost exclusively by transgender, bisexual and random non-binary nonsense (ie they/them) affiliation. The statistical rise in exclusively gay or lesbian identification has been much smaller and is statistically explained simply by increased acceptance of people who previously would have stayed "in the closet".

Much of the modern LGBTQ crowd is the explained by social contagion to be sure, but there's no reason to believe seeing two women kiss (or any other movie depiction of gay people) will literally turn a kid gay who otherwise wouldn't have been gay.

Disney's Big, Gay 'Lightyear' Is the Latest Woke Box Office Flop

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Now we have darn near 20% of adolescents claiming to be gay.

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This is incorrect, nearly 20% of the youngest generation claims LGBTQ affiliation. This rise has been driven almost exclusively by transgender, bisexual and random non-binary nonsense (ie they/them) affiliation. The statistical rise in exclusively gay or lesbian identification has been much smaller and is statistically explained simply by increased acceptance of people who previously would have stayed "in the closet".

Much of the modern LGBTQ crowd is the explained by social contagion to be sure, but there's no reason to believe seeing two women kiss (or any other movie depiction of gay people) will literally turn a kid gay who otherwise wouldn't have been gay.

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Can they go back in the closet?

Putting the same sex couple controversy to the side, this movie is just not good regardless. It appears to be bombing too, at least against expected ticket sales.

Back to the controversy. After seeing the film, the lesbian couple's quick kiss is not even remotely close to most potentially troubling aspect of exposure to younger kids. It pales in comparison to the fact in the next scene of the couple, one is pregnant, and in the next, they have a baby. And that baby goes on the become Buzz's new space ranger partner. Bear with me, there is some time travel aspect to it.

So pause there.

Say you're a seven year old at this movie. And like 99% of kids, you have a mom and dad (or least that is how you were conceived). A female and male. And although you don't need to know at that age the more graphic details of how you were "made" you at least picked up on the fact that it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. It's already reckless enough to put young kids in a position to try to comprehend homosexuality but Disney has completely jumped the shark and moved on to gay procreation.

I honestly think this becomes almost of abusive towards young kids. It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads. Nothing good comes us this at that age. And if you are parent and kid has questions, and they will, you can either tell them the honest truth or you can just lie to them and introduce another Easter Bunny or Santa Clause.

So what if you don't lie? We don't to our kids. It would go down like this. So dad, two women can make a baby? Well not exactly. But they did in the movie right? Yeah, but it's not the same thing. What do you mean? Well your mother and I, after we were married and ready, purposely had intercourse in a way to produce a baby and I'm not going in to more detail than that. Can two women do that? No. Then how did they have a baby? Well they had to go to a special doctor called a fertility specialist, and they picked a donor, and one of the ladies was artificially inseminated with the sperm of some other man so she could get pregnant. I don't know what that means but it still took a man and women then to have a baby? Yes. Mind blown seven year old.

Are we really doing this with kids? are we really putting this kids movies?

Is the buzz movie worse than that Sonic2 crapola of a movie?

Hi we went and saw it. I don't have a problem with the scene y'all are referencing - that is everywhere in our media and culture.

I did not like the movie because the story is about a hero who has to forgo and dumb down his pursuit of excellence because everyone doesn't or can't match that.

Or 'it's ok to settle' and 'don't work hard because, you're making the people who don't want to or can't meet a standard of excellence look bad'

That is the probably the main problem with woke BS culture.

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Tanya 93 said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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These aren't the same characters.
Tim Allen voiced the toy. Chris Evans voices the Astronaut that the toy was based on.

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Aren't toys that are made from movies often voiced by the actor from the movie? If the toy's voice was Tim Allen, why wouldn't the movie character also be???

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You are misunderstanding.

When I said toy, I meant Tim Allen did the voice as Buzz Lightyear, the toy, in the 4 movies of Toy Story.

Lightyear is the story of the "real life astronaut" the toy is based on.

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It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads.

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This is there explicit goal, not some accidental byproduct. The are trying to groom these ideas into kids from their earliest possible formative memories.

It's not new, it's simply a new tactic to rebel against the order that God created (including basic procreation and family structure)

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Disney's Big, Gay 'Lightyear' Is the Latest Woke Box Office Flop

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Maverick made more the first day than Buzz Lightyear made the whole opening weekend.

Top Gun registered another $44 million this weekend.

I saw a light year yesterday and I thought it was very good.

I understand that some people are upset, that's fine you don't have to go see it.

There is one gay character they did show mostly in a progression in a "through the years" segment but it really was not a big deal. Honestly if the women kissed, I didn't even see it. If there was another kiss between other characters, I didn't catch that either. It just showed a family that parallels in some ways the story of the direction Buzz's character.

Again, to each their own, but I thought it was very well done in story and action and humor. In fact it was much better than I expected.

I even liked Sox.

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I saw a light year yesterday and I thought it was very good.

I understand that some people are upset, that's fine you don't have to go see it.

There is one gay character they did show mostly in a progression in a "through the years" segment but it really was not a big deal. Honestly if they kissed I didn't even see it. It just showed a family that parallels in some ways the story of the direction Buzz's character.

Again, to each their own, but I thought it was very well done in story and action and humor. In fact it was much better than I expected.

I even liked Sox.

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This is the first positive review I've read. Not because of the gay characters but most people have said the movie was just not good.

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Putting the same sex couple controversy to the side, this movie is just not good regardless. It appears to be bombing too, at least against expected ticket sales.

Back to the controversy. After seeing the film, the lesbian couple's quick kiss is not even remotely close to most potentially troubling aspect of exposure to younger kids. It pales in comparison to the fact in the next scene of the couple, one is pregnant, and in the next, they have a baby. And that baby goes on the become Buzz's new space ranger partner. Bear with me, there is some time travel aspect to it.

So pause there.

Say you're a seven year old at this movie. And like 99% of kids, you have a mom and dad (or least that is how you were conceived). A female and male. And although you don't need to know at that age the more graphic details of how you were "made" you at least picked up on the fact that it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. It's already reckless enough to put young kids in a position to try to comprehend homosexuality but Disney has completely jumped the shark and moved on to gay procreation.

I honestly think this becomes almost of abusive towards young kids. It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads. Nothing good comes us this at that age. And if you are parent and kid has questions, and they will, you can either tell them the honest truth or you can just lie to them and introduce another Easter Bunny or Santa Clause.

So what if you don't lie? We don't to our kids. It would go down like this. So dad, two women can make a baby? Well not exactly. But they did in the movie right? Yeah, but it's not the same thing. What do you mean? Well your mother and I, after we were married and ready, purposely had intercourse in a way to produce a baby and I'm not going in to more detail than that. Can two women do that? No. Then how did they have a baby? Well they had to go to a special doctor called a fertility specialist, and they picked a donor, and one of the ladies was artificially inseminated with the sperm of some other man so she could get pregnant. I don't know what that means but it still took a man and women then to have a baby? Yes. Mind blown seven year old.

Are we really doing this with kids? are we really putting this kids movies?

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So I guess we stopped telling dumb kids the stork dropped them off? Parents have been saying that for decades. You suddenly have to pull out the literature to explain to a seven year old what is actually happening when they see two women as parents? Can't just say they're really good friends who wanted to adopt a child in need?

Or are you just being completely disingenuous and arguing in bad faith?

One of the lesbians was pregnant.

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One of the lesbians was pregnant.

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The horror

Kids see pregnant women all the time, are they being told exactly what a man and a women did for her to be that way? Or does that only happen when they see the wrong pregnant woman?

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One of the lesbians was pregnant.

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The horror

Kids see pregnant women all the time, are they being told exactly what a man and a women did for her to be that way? Or does that only happen when they see the wrong pregnant woman?

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You said to tell them two friends adopted a child. Thus my response.

I don't know about everyone else but we explained early on that it takes a man and a woman to get pregnant. That's what Urban was posting about. Maybe you skimmed?

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This is the first positive review I've read. Not because of the gay characters but most people have said the movie was just not good.

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Huh?

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lightyear

77% on RT with 86% audience score?

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I saw a light year yesterday and I thought it was very good.

I understand that some people are upset, that's fine you don't have to go see it.

There is one gay character they did show mostly in a progression in a "through the years" segment but it really was not a big deal. Honestly if they kissed I didn't even see it. It just showed a family that parallels in some ways the story of the direction Buzz's character.

Again, to each their own, but I thought it was very well done in story and action and humor. In fact it was much better than I expected.

I even liked Sox.

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This is the first positive review I've read. Not because of the gay characters but most people have said the movie was just not good.

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It's possible because I didn't really know what, if much to expect from it. I love to see movies, all types, well mostly, and I just felt like seeing a movie so I went and saw that one. I truly thought it was very well done.

It was also cute to hear the laughs of a girl with down syndrome sitting a few seats down from me, she was probably about 14. Her reactions to many things were very sweet.

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redcrayon said:

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annie88 said:

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I saw a light year yesterday and I thought it was very good.

I understand that some people are upset, that's fine you don't have to go see it.

There is one gay character they did show mostly in a progression in a "through the years" segment but it really was not a big deal. Honestly if they kissed I didn't even see it. It just showed a family that parallels in some ways the story of the direction Buzz's character.

Again, to each their own, but I thought it was very well done in story and action and humor. In fact it was much better than I expected.

I even liked Sox.

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This is the first positive review I've read. Not because of the gay characters but most people have said the movie was just not good.

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It's possible because I didn't really know what, if much to expect from it. I love to see movies, all types, well mostly, and I just felt like seeing a movie so I went and saw that one. I truly thought it was very well done.

It was also cute to hear the laughs of a girl with down syndrome sitting a few seats down from me, she was probably about 14. Her reactions to many things were very sweet.

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I'm glad you enjoyed it!

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redcrayon said:

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This is the first positive review I've read. Not because of the gay characters but most people have said the movie was just not good.

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Huh?

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lightyear

77% on RT with 86% audience score?

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From my circle of friends and acquaintances. I can honestly say I've never been to rotten tomatoes. I don't even know what those numbers mean.

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Hi we went and saw it. I don't have a problem with the scene y'all are referencing - that is everywhere in our media and culture.

I did not like the movie because the story is about a hero who has to forgo and dumb down his pursuit of excellence because everyone doesn't or can't match that.

Or 'it's ok to settle' and 'don't work hard because, you're making the people who don't want to or can't meet a standard of excellence look bad'

That is the probably the main problem with woke BS culture.

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Pretty good synopsis. Throw in a touch of "toxic masculinity" or the notion of "holding on too tight to old ways" too.

annie88 said:

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I saw a light year yesterday and I thought it was very good.

I understand that some people are upset, that's fine you don't have to go see it.

There is one gay character they did show mostly in a progression in a "through the years" segment but it really was not a big deal. Honestly if the women kissed, I didn't even see it. If there was another kiss between other characters, I didn't catch that either. It just showed a family that parallels in some ways the story of the direction Buzz's character.

Again, to each their own, but I thought it was very well done in story and action and humor. In fact it was much better than I expected.

I even liked Sox.

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I had the same experience with the gay character but I don't really agree that it was a good movie. The main plot has a huge metaphysical hole in it that doesn't make sense to me at all.

'Pixar's 'Lightyear' fizzles at the box office'
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/19/media/lightyear-box-office-pixar-disney/index.html

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The latest film from Disney's Pixar which features the voice work of Chris Evans as Buzz Lightyear opened to an estimated $51 million at the North American box office this weekend.
That number came in way under industry expectations, which projected the film to make around $70 million. The movie took in $85.6 million worldwide, according to Disney (DIS).

The film also failed to grab the top spot at the box office, opening at No. 2 behind the second weekend of Universal's "Jurassic World: Dominion," which made an estimated $58.6 million.

The opening is a disappointing launch for Pixar one of the most successful and popular studios in all of Hollywood. The animation studio which has produced hits including "Toy Story," "The Incredibles" and "Finding Nemo" has made $14.7 billion at the global box office.


To give some context to how "Lightyear" did compared to other Pixar films, it finds itself on the back-end of openings for the studio. The $51 million opening puts it behind 2017's "Cars 3," according to Comscore (SCOR).

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Putting the same sex couple controversy to the side, this movie is just not good regardless. It appears to be bombing too, at least against expected ticket sales.

Back to the controversy. After seeing the film, the lesbian couple's quick kiss is not even remotely close to most potentially troubling aspect of exposure to younger kids. It pales in comparison to the fact in the next scene of the couple, one is pregnant, and in the next, they have a baby. And that baby goes on the become Buzz's new space ranger partner. Bear with me, there is some time travel aspect to it.

So pause there.

Say you're a seven year old at this movie. And like 99% of kids, you have a mom and dad (or least that is how you were conceived). A female and male. And although you don't need to know at that age the more graphic details of how you were "made" you at least picked up on the fact that it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. It's already reckless enough to put young kids in a position to try to comprehend homosexuality but Disney has completely jumped the shark and moved on to gay procreation.

I honestly think this becomes almost of abusive towards young kids. It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads. Nothing good comes us this at that age. And if you are parent and kid has questions, and they will, you can either tell them the honest truth or you can just lie to them and introduce another Easter Bunny or Santa Clause.

So what if you don't lie? We don't to our kids. It would go down like this. So dad, two women can make a baby? Well not exactly. But they did in the movie right? Yeah, but it's not the same thing. What do you mean? Well your mother and I, after we were married and ready, purposely had intercourse in a way to produce a baby and I'm not going in to more detail than that. Can two women do that? No. Then how did they have a baby? Well they had to go to a special doctor called a fertility specialist, and they picked a donor, and one of the ladies was artificially inseminated with the sperm of some other man so she could get pregnant. I don't know what that means but it still took a man and women then to have a baby? Yes. Mind blown seven year old.

Are we really doing this with kids? are we really putting this kids movies?

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Im sure your kids never heard about the stork, Santa, the Easter Bunny and the creepy fairy who a tooth fetish who stalks them in the night.

Probably the most striking contraindication here though is many of the people who are going off about this has no qualms whatsoever with teaching their seven year olds about a place of eternal torment where they'll go and be tortured forever if they don't believe in someone they can't see. That's totally not psychologically abusive, but seeing two chicks kiss might screw them up forever.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Putting the same sex couple controversy to the side, this movie is just not good regardless. It appears to be bombing too, at least against expected ticket sales.

Back to the controversy. After seeing the film, the lesbian couple's quick kiss is not even remotely close to most potentially troubling aspect of exposure to younger kids. It pales in comparison to the fact in the next scene of the couple, one is pregnant, and in the next, they have a baby. And that baby goes on the become Buzz's new space ranger partner. Bear with me, there is some time travel aspect to it.

So pause there.

Say you're a seven year old at this movie. And like 99% of kids, you have a mom and dad (or least that is how you were conceived). A female and male. And although you don't need to know at that age the more graphic details of how you were "made" you at least picked up on the fact that it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. It's already reckless enough to put young kids in a position to try to comprehend homosexuality but Disney has completely jumped the shark and moved on to gay procreation.

I honestly think this becomes almost of abusive towards young kids. It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads. Nothing good comes us this at that age. And if you are parent and kid has questions, and they will, you can either tell them the honest truth or you can just lie to them and introduce another Easter Bunny or Santa Clause.

So what if you don't lie? We don't to our kids. It would go down like this. So dad, two women can make a baby? Well not exactly. But they did in the movie right? Yeah, but it's not the same thing. What do you mean? Well your mother and I, after we were married and ready, purposely had intercourse in a way to produce a baby and I'm not going in to more detail than that. Can two women do that? No. Then how did they have a baby? Well they had to go to a special doctor called a fertility specialist, and they picked a donor, and one of the ladies was artificially inseminated with the sperm of some other man so she could get pregnant. I don't know what that means but it still took a man and women then to have a baby? Yes. Mind blown seven year old.

Are we really doing this with kids? are we really putting this kids movies?

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Im sure your kids never heard about the stork, Santa, the Easter Bunny and the creepy fairy who a tooth fetish who stalks them in the night.

Probably the most striking contraindication here though is many of the people who are going off about this has no qualms whatsoever with teaching their seven year olds about a place of eternal torment where they'll go and be tortured forever if they don't believe in someone they can't see. That's totally not psychologically abusive, but seeing two chicks kiss might screw them up forever.

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We also teach them not to touch hot things. Some teachings are beneficial, some are not.

WHOOP!'91 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Putting the same sex couple controversy to the side, this movie is just not good regardless. It appears to be bombing too, at least against expected ticket sales.

Back to the controversy. After seeing the film, the lesbian couple's quick kiss is not even remotely close to most potentially troubling aspect of exposure to younger kids. It pales in comparison to the fact in the next scene of the couple, one is pregnant, and in the next, they have a baby. And that baby goes on the become Buzz's new space ranger partner. Bear with me, there is some time travel aspect to it.

So pause there.

Say you're a seven year old at this movie. And like 99% of kids, you have a mom and dad (or least that is how you were conceived). A female and male. And although you don't need to know at that age the more graphic details of how you were "made" you at least picked up on the fact that it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. It's already reckless enough to put young kids in a position to try to comprehend homosexuality but Disney has completely jumped the shark and moved on to gay procreation.

I honestly think this becomes almost of abusive towards young kids. It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads. Nothing good comes us this at that age. And if you are parent and kid has questions, and they will, you can either tell them the honest truth or you can just lie to them and introduce another Easter Bunny or Santa Clause.

So what if you don't lie? We don't to our kids. It would go down like this. So dad, two women can make a baby? Well not exactly. But they did in the movie right? Yeah, but it's not the same thing. What do you mean? Well your mother and I, after we were married and ready, purposely had intercourse in a way to produce a baby and I'm not going in to more detail than that. Can two women do that? No. Then how did they have a baby? Well they had to go to a special doctor called a fertility specialist, and they picked a donor, and one of the ladies was artificially inseminated with the sperm of some other man so she could get pregnant. I don't know what that means but it still took a man and women then to have a baby? Yes. Mind blown seven year old.

Are we really doing this with kids? are we really putting this kids movies?

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Im sure your kids never heard about the stork, Santa, the Easter Bunny and the creepy fairy who a tooth fetish who stalks them in the night.

Probably the most striking contraindication here though is many of the people who are going off about this has no qualms whatsoever with teaching their seven year olds about a place of eternal torment where they'll go and be tortured forever if they don't believe in someone they can't see. That's totally not psychologically abusive, but seeing two chicks kiss might screw them up forever.

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We also teach them not to touch hot things. Some teachings are beneficial, some are not.

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That is not the same.

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Putting the same sex couple controversy to the side, this movie is just not good regardless. It appears to be bombing too, at least against expected ticket sales.

Back to the controversy. After seeing the film, the lesbian couple's quick kiss is not even remotely close to most potentially troubling aspect of exposure to younger kids. It pales in comparison to the fact in the next scene of the couple, one is pregnant, and in the next, they have a baby. And that baby goes on the become Buzz's new space ranger partner. Bear with me, there is some time travel aspect to it.

So pause there.

Say you're a seven year old at this movie. And like 99% of kids, you have a mom and dad (or least that is how you were conceived). A female and male. And although you don't need to know at that age the more graphic details of how you were "made" you at least picked up on the fact that it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. It's already reckless enough to put young kids in a position to try to comprehend homosexuality but Disney has completely jumped the shark and moved on to gay procreation.

I honestly think this becomes almost of abusive towards young kids. It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads. Nothing good comes us this at that age. And if you are parent and kid has questions, and they will, you can either tell them the honest truth or you can just lie to them and introduce another Easter Bunny or Santa Clause.

So what if you don't lie? We don't to our kids. It would go down like this. So dad, two women can make a baby? Well not exactly. But they did in the movie right? Yeah, but it's not the same thing. What do you mean? Well your mother and I, after we were married and ready, purposely had intercourse in a way to produce a baby and I'm not going in to more detail than that. Can two women do that? No. Then how did they have a baby? Well they had to go to a special doctor called a fertility specialist, and they picked a donor, and one of the ladies was artificially inseminated with the sperm of some other man so she could get pregnant. I don't know what that means but it still took a man and women then to have a baby? Yes. Mind blown seven year old.

Are we really doing this with kids? are we really putting this kids movies?

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Im sure your kids never heard about the stork, Santa, the Easter Bunny and the creepy fairy who a tooth fetish who stalks them in the night.

Probably the most striking contraindication here though is many of the people who are going off about this has no qualms whatsoever with teaching their seven year olds about a place of eternal torment where they'll go and be tortured forever if they don't believe in someone they can't see. That's totally not psychologically abusive, but seeing two chicks kiss might screw them up forever.

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We also teach them not to touch hot things. Some teachings are beneficial, some are not.

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That is not the same.

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The same thing as what? Teaching kids about hell and not to touch hot things are both beneficial. Only an activist atheist would refer to it as 'psychologically abusive'.

First - I have no desire for Heaven/Hell to be taught in public school to kids of parents who didn't seek it out.

Also, as someone who has taught religion to many ages for decades (to people who have sought it out) - it's not helpful to go into any sort of depth on Hell to a young impressionable child. And I've never seen others do it either, so this is just making up facts to fit your narrative.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Putting the same sex couple controversy to the side, this movie is just not good regardless. It appears to be bombing too, at least against expected ticket sales.

Back to the controversy. After seeing the film, the lesbian couple's quick kiss is not even remotely close to most potentially troubling aspect of exposure to younger kids. It pales in comparison to the fact in the next scene of the couple, one is pregnant, and in the next, they have a baby. And that baby goes on the become Buzz's new space ranger partner. Bear with me, there is some time travel aspect to it.

So pause there.

Say you're a seven year old at this movie. And like 99% of kids, you have a mom and dad (or least that is how you were conceived). A female and male. And although you don't need to know at that age the more graphic details of how you were "made" you at least picked up on the fact that it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. It's already reckless enough to put young kids in a position to try to comprehend homosexuality but Disney has completely jumped the shark and moved on to gay procreation.

I honestly think this becomes almost of abusive towards young kids. It completely blows up their basic childhood perception of families, parents, moms, and dads. Nothing good comes us this at that age. And if you are parent and kid has questions, and they will, you can either tell them the honest truth or you can just lie to them and introduce another Easter Bunny or Santa Clause.

So what if you don't lie? We don't to our kids. It would go down like this. So dad, two women can make a baby? Well not exactly. But they did in the movie right? Yeah, but it's not the same thing. What do you mean? Well your mother and I, after we were married and ready, purposely had intercourse in a way to produce a baby and I'm not going in to more detail than that. Can two women do that? No. Then how did they have a baby? Well they had to go to a special doctor called a fertility specialist, and they picked a donor, and one of the ladies was artificially inseminated with the sperm of some other man so she could get pregnant. I don't know what that means but it still took a man and women then to have a baby? Yes. Mind blown seven year old.

Are we really doing this with kids? are we really putting this kids movies?

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Im sure your kids never heard about the stork, Santa, the Easter Bunny and the creepy fairy who a tooth fetish who stalks them in the night.

Probably the most striking contraindication here though is many of the people who are going off about this has no qualms whatsoever with teaching their seven year olds about a place of eternal torment where they'll go and be tortured forever if they don't believe in someone they can't see. That's totally not psychologically abusive, but seeing two chicks kiss might screw them up forever.

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The point is that there is a time and place for everything in society. This ain't it. Openly discussing or promoting aspects of "sexual issues" other than the natural norm of seeing a man/woman kiss, is simply going way out of bounds.

"Lying to kids about Santa or the Tooth Fairy" are basic cultural norms that are almost done in jest and I cannot recall one documented or anecdotal case of any lingering "emotional stress" from a child that later learns the truth about such things.

Sure, consumers have the "choice" to see this movie or not. Nobody is debating that.

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'Pixar's 'Lightyear' fizzles at the box office'
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/19/media/lightyear-box-office-pixar-disney/index.html

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The latest film from Disney's Pixar which features the voice work of Chris Evans as Buzz Lightyear opened to an estimated $51 million at the North American box office this weekend.
That number came in way under industry expectations, which projected the film to make around $70 million. The movie took in $85.6 million worldwide, according to Disney (DIS).

The film also failed to grab the top spot at the box office, opening at No. 2 behind the second weekend of Universal's "Jurassic World: Dominion," which made an estimated $58.6 million.

The opening is a disappointing launch for Pixar one of the most successful and popular studios in all of Hollywood. The animation studio which has produced hits including "Toy Story," "The Incredibles" and "Finding Nemo" has made $14.7 billion at the global box office.


To give some context to how "Lightyear" did compared to other Pixar films, it finds itself on the back-end of openings for the studio. The $51 million opening puts it behind 2017's "Cars 3," according to Comscore (SCOR).

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If they'd left the woke BS out, this easily could have been one of Disney's best launches.

Toy Story was iconic for a whole generation of kids. What a missed opportunity for Disney shareholders.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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But seeing two women kiss isn't going to turn kids gay, so this is a completely irrelevant point.

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if seeing two women kiss turns you gay, there isn't a straight man in America

Old McDonald said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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But seeing two women kiss isn't going to turn kids gay, so this is a completely irrelevant point.

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if seeing two women kiss turns you gay, there isn't a straight man in America

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Good thing nobody is saying that.

RAB91 said:

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'Pixar's 'Lightyear' fizzles at the box office'
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/19/media/lightyear-box-office-pixar-disney/index.html

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The latest film from Disney's Pixar which features the voice work of Chris Evans as Buzz Lightyear opened to an estimated $51 million at the North American box office this weekend.
That number came in way under industry expectations, which projected the film to make around $70 million. The movie took in $85.6 million worldwide, according to Disney (DIS).

The film also failed to grab the top spot at the box office, opening at No. 2 behind the second weekend of Universal's "Jurassic World: Dominion," which made an estimated $58.6 million.

The opening is a disappointing launch for Pixar one of the most successful and popular studios in all of Hollywood. The animation studio which has produced hits including "Toy Story," "The Incredibles" and "Finding Nemo" has made $14.7 billion at the global box office.


To give some context to how "Lightyear" did compared to other Pixar films, it finds itself on the back-end of openings for the studio. The $51 million opening puts it behind 2017's "Cars 3," according to Comscore (SCOR).

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I've read CNN's and Variety's writeup on the disappointing launch.

There's a lot of excuses in there about why it was disappointing, all of which could be legit: confusing story about what it's about, parents used to last few movies going direct to Disney+, but they never do address the parental concerns when that seems to be an obvious reason.

Maybe it will do really well in weekend 2 and beyond. It just seems disingenuous to not offer what most people are actually talking about in regards to the movie.


It will be interesting to see how the movie does in next couple weeks. I expect the GRU/Minions movie to do pretty decent even if the last Minions movie was a bit too much of the minions.

I predicted it might flop and was told I was crazy.

Combine the controversy with the fact the trailers are not compelling and the state of the economy and it wasn't a hard prediction