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Tanya 93 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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These aren't the same characters.
Tim Allen voiced the toy. Chris Evans voices the Astronaut that the toy was based on.

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If I could do the Leroy Jethro Gibbs stare through a message board, this is where I'd do it.

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Go for it.
Disney had no problem firing Gina Carino and saying it. People will still flock to watch The Mandalorian.

Tim Allen is not afraid to say things and he never once mentioned he was fired. You think he wouldn't say it if it was true?

The real test will be who is seeing it this weekend on wether this is a flop. Not a lot of kids movies lately, so despite mediocre reviews, it will probably make money as parents seek relief from the heat wave across much of America.

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Maybe Allen didn't want to do it…..

But, conceptually, why would the cartoon toy character have a different voice from the cartoon "real" character?

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It's probably a simple matter of Disney wanting to keep Chris Evans working for them because he makes a ton of bank for them. Give him a layup of a job in a movie that's going to make a fortune and you keep him in the mix when you start those whispers of some sort of Avengers time travel BS in 2025 and then then he's back as Steve Rogers.

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Instead - Read a good book out loud to your child.

A book that everyone forgets because of all of the dumb movies - but is probably one of the best written stories for kids (and Adults) I have ever read is "The Story of Doctor Dolittle by Hugh Lofting" (1920). My boy laughed and laughed at the animal characters.

Seriously - your kids will remember this far longer than some stupid disney movie.

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Currently reading The Hobbit to my daughter. She's loving it so far.

No issue that you're on the same side as the Chinese Communist Party and Shariah Law?

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the tim allen version is supposed to be a toy. the evans version is supposed to be a real person.

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Nuance Achievement Unlocked!

Squadron7 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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These aren't the same characters.
Tim Allen voiced the toy. Chris Evans voices the Astronaut that the toy was based on.

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If I could do the Leroy Jethro Gibbs stare through a message board, this is where I'd do it.

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Go for it.
Disney had no problem firing Gina Carino and saying it. People will still flock to watch The Mandalorian.

Tim Allen is not afraid to say things and he never once mentioned he was fired. You think he wouldn't say it if it was true?

The real test will be who is seeing it this weekend on wether this is a flop. Not a lot of kids movies lately, so despite mediocre reviews, it will probably make money as parents seek relief from the heat wave across much of America.

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Why would the cartoon toy character have a different voice from the cartoon "real" character?

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Because he sounds a lot older than he did 25 years ago?
The real life lightyear is dead?
Toys often don't have the actual person it is based on voice it?

I do think it is because he sounds older and Buzz is younger and more youthful than Tim is now.


Or stick with him being fired and never saying anything.

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No, you said this:

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These aren't the same characters.

Tim Allen voiced the toy. Chris Evans voices the Astronaut that the toy was based on.

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Regardless of the politics or Allen's availability…does this work conceptually for two made up characters both of whom are cartoons?

That's like saying, "oh, x voiced the cartoon in black and white and y voiced the character in color".

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Yes
I posted that.

They are two distinct characters.
One is an astronaut.
One is a toy astronaut.

I would not expect them to have the same voice. You do I guess.

I just do not believe Tim Allen would be silent if he was fired. And apparently there is a Santa Claus mini series coming out. But he is in that, despite his politics.

helloimustbegoing said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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These aren't the same characters.
Tim Allen voiced the toy. Chris Evans voices the Astronaut that the toy was based on.

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If I could do the Leroy Jethro Gibbs stare through a message board, this is where I'd do it.

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Go for it.
Disney had no problem firing Gina Carino and saying it. People will still flock to watch The Mandalorian.

Tim Allen is not afraid to say things and he never once mentioned he was fired. You think he wouldn't say it if it was true?

The real test will be who is seeing it this weekend on wether this is a flop. Not a lot of kids movies lately, so despite mediocre reviews, it will probably make money as parents seek relief from the heat wave across much of America.

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Maybe Allen didn't want to do it…..

But, conceptually, why would the cartoon toy character have a different voice from the cartoon "real" character?

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It's probably a simple matter of Disney wanting to keep Chris Evans working for them because he makes a ton of bank for them. Give him a layup of a job in a movie that's going to make a fortune and you keep him in the mix when you start those whispers of some sort of Avengers time travel BS in 2025 and then then he's back as Steve Rogers.

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And Chris Evans called those who disagree with the same sex kiss, "idiots."
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/lightyear-star-chris-evans-calls-critics-on-screen-representation-idiots-2022-06-14/

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the tim allen version is supposed to be a toy. the evans version is supposed to be a real person.

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Nuance Achievement Unlocked!

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thats the reason. sorry it doesnt help with your desire to be mad and think disney hates tim allen

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helloimustbegoing said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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These aren't the same characters.
Tim Allen voiced the toy. Chris Evans voices the Astronaut that the toy was based on.

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If I could do the Leroy Jethro Gibbs stare through a message board, this is where I'd do it.

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Go for it.
Disney had no problem firing Gina Carino and saying it. People will still flock to watch The Mandalorian.

Tim Allen is not afraid to say things and he never once mentioned he was fired. You think he wouldn't say it if it was true?

The real test will be who is seeing it this weekend on wether this is a flop. Not a lot of kids movies lately, so despite mediocre reviews, it will probably make money as parents seek relief from the heat wave across much of America.

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Maybe Allen didn't want to do it…..

But, conceptually, why would the cartoon toy character have a different voice from the cartoon "real" character?

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It's probably a simple matter of Disney wanting to keep Chris Evans working for them because he makes a ton of bank for them. Give him a layup of a job in a movie that's going to make a fortune and you keep him in the mix when you start those whispers of some sort of Avengers time travel BS in 2025 and then then he's back as Steve Rogers.

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And Chris Evans called those who disagree with the same sex kiss, "idiots."
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/lightyear-star-chris-evans-calls-critics-on-screen-representation-idiots-2022-06-14/

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He's probably gay himself so not surprising he has an agenda here.

There it is....moral authority straight out of Hollywood....they are a light in this dark world....

Seems like the two threads on Pedos just disappeared.

Disney wants to educate your kindergarteners!
They actively involved themselves politically advocating this!

Why do they want to be involved with sex education of kindergartners………

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Can we get the Muslim or Chinese version of the film?

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The Media Regulatory Office announced that the animated film Lightyear, which is scheduled for release on 16th June, is not licensed for public screening in all cinemas in the UAE, due to its violation of the country’s media content standards. pic.twitter.com/f3iYwXqs1D

— مكتب تنظيم الإعلام (@uaemro) June 13, 2022

Doesn't appear to be one atm.

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Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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My dog's name

You see, in my construct "she" is not a lesbian at all so there is no same sex kiss.

For all we know this so-called lesbian character is actually a biological male that is simply presenting as a woman but still remains attracted to biological women. And the reason he is in space is because, even though a biological male who is attracted to biological women, he would like to be a birthing person and is searching for any alien tech that would allow him to do so. He is hoping for a son and will name him Chaston. (It should be noted that none of this is outside the realm of what the Smart Set (TM) considers "reality".)

In the first draft of my construct, I had "her" as a biological male looking to transition that was searching for alien tech that would allow him to have an actual vagina instead of a sort of gash/stump combo that smells like feces.

But that first draft didn't seem happy-clappy enough for a children's movie.

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I'm calling for a Rule 1 here.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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I don't think you need nefarious motives to explain why they'd go with one of the biggest action stars of the moment to be their action hero instead of a mostly irrelevant 70 year old comedian who voiced a toy version of this hero.

After one of Buzz's hyperspeed testing runs, he returns to find that Alisha Hawthorne has gotten engaged. "What's her name?" Buzz asks, implying that Alisha's same-sex attraction has never been a secret to Buzz or anyone else. Her name, Alisha says, is Kiko. Later, we see the two women kiss to celebrate their 40th anniversary.
Even though Buzz laments the fact that everyone on the ship is marooned because of his mistake, Alisha tells him, "I wouldn't have met [Kiko] if we hadn't gotten stranded."

After one of Buzz's next testing runs, he returns to find that Alisha is quite visibly pregnant. How Alisha is pregnant, given the fact that she's married to a woman, is never explained.

Buzz's last testing trip, as noted, correlates to more than six decades of time passing back on the planet, skipping an entire generation. We then meet Izzy Hawthorne, granddaughter of Alisha, who refers glowingly to her "two grandmas."

I'll return to some of the important implications of this same-sex relationship in the Conclusion.


Wokeness is so woke its woke for wokeness sake

It should not go unsuggested that the bigger problem is that these movies aren't necessarily children's movies in 2022 America.

Go to the Entertainment board and witness the breathless discussion actual grownups are having about any of the Star Wars offerings.

How many times have you sat in traffic behind adults...adults...with Star Wars (or Marvell, DC, etc.) fanboy stickers all over the back?

Funky Winkerbean said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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He's not the voice?

Meh. Not as woke as this kiss was in its time.

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No issue that you're on the same side as the Chinese Communist Party and Shariah Law?

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I would rather just have clean movies that don't target children with gay/drag/trans themes...if China or North Korea is doing that, I guess it's one of very few things they are doing right. See those recent videos of children turning away in horror at gay pride parades as near naked men and drag queens prance and gyrate in front of them, with their mothers turning them around and forcing them to watch in horror? You'd rather be on their same side than the side of some of us who just want traditional kids' movies without gay this trans that???

Go away clown.

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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And they fired Tim Allen

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He's not the voice?

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Maybe he was fired. Maybe he was unavailable. Maybe his voice was too old. Who knows?

The important thing is that a cartoon toy and the cartoon character on which the cartoon toy is based should have different voices to have any semblance of realism.

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You see, in my construct "she" is not a lesbian at all so there is no same sex kiss.

For all we know this so-called lesbian character is actually a biological male that is simply presenting as a woman but still remains attracted to biological women. And the reason he is in space is because, even though a biological male who is attracted to biological women, he would like to be a birthing person and is searching for any alien tech that would allow him to do so. He is hoping for a son and will name him Chaston. (It should be noted that none of this is outside the realm of what the Smart Set (TM) considers "reality".)

In the first draft of my construct, I had "her" as a biological male looking to transition that was searching for alien tech that would allow him to have an actual vagina instead of a sort of gash/stump combo that smells like feces.

But that first draft didn't seem happy-clappy enough for a children's movie.

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Addendum: So he does get pregnant. He found that alien tech he was looking for! I'm so happy!

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After one of Buzz's next testing runs, he returns to find that Alisha is quite visibly pregnant. How Alisha is pregnant, given the fact that she's married to a woman, is never explained.

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I haven't seen the film, but since artificial insemination exists in present society, I'm going to assume that in a film where there is interstellar travel, they have probably developed a similar technology.

...another fun conversation to have with a 6 year old....

Just dont have kids.

Problem solved.

Hey TexAgs, it's 2022, so repeat with me!

"Sexuality is not a choice."

Nobody is choosing to be gay, especially when they're still constantly discriminated against and misunderstood (this board being a prime example) and only got marriage rights equal to you and me less than a decade ago. Why would anyone actively choose that?

No matter how close-minded you may be, your kid isn't going to be gay because he went and saw this movie. Don't like it? Don't take them. And if your child thinks two men kissing is weird or gross, it's probably because you made him think that. We're not born to hate; it's learned. But God forbid if two men kissing is labeled as 'grooming'. You guys are truly concerned about some of the most inane stuff.

I'm sorry that your worldview is crashing down around you as you slowly realize that yes, minorities of all kind do exist, have a voice, and want equal representation and rights.

Wrong.

It's a behavior, and it doesn't matter how many times you repeat otherwise.

And choosing gay as an identity comes with positive and negative reactions from different groups of people - but that is a net positive for many who choose it.

You see, I can express my opinions as if they are facts just like you can.

It is grooming no matter what year it is. No need for it in a kids movie at all.

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Wrong. Being gay is a choice. Two guys kissing is ****ing nasty, wrong, and disgusting.

Did you choose to be straight? Was that a hard decision? Did it take you a long time to figure out?

Is it grooming when a prince kisses a female without her consent?

I was born straight just like everyone else

No, that's just a female knowing her role in life

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Is it grooming when a prince kisses a female without her consent?

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If you are talking about Snow White that was a form of CPR.

If the choice is to remain asleep for eternity, even I would take the kiss from a Prince.