bigjag19 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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I can't wait for a man to sue to get the same compensation.

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They write it as a medical procedure done in another state. So while clearly targeted it's not only abortion in theory.

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Hmm, so if I need a routine colonoscopy or want to have some dental work done, I get a paid long weekend. Not bad.

Apparently Amazon will now pay $4,000 for women to have an abortion. Do the women get a $4,000 bonus for keeping their children? It’s not pro-choice, it’s pro-abortion.

— ULTRA POSO 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) May 6, 2022

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Apparently Amazon will now pay $4,000 for women to have an abortion. Do the women get a $4,000 bonus for keeping their children? It’s not pro-choice, it’s pro-abortion.

— ULTRA POSO 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) May 6, 2022

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A C-section can costs over $10k and necessitates a hospital stay of at least 2 days. They are cash cows for OBs and hospitals.

WHOOP!'91 said:

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bigjag19 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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I can't wait for a man to sue to get the same compensation.

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They write it as a medical procedure done in another state. So while clearly targeted it's not only abortion in theory.

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Hmm, so if I need a routine colonoscopy or want to have some dental work done, I get a paid long weekend. Not bad.

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My chiropractor is in Maine in the summers.

Burdizzo said:

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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bigjag19 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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I can't wait for a man to sue to get the same compensation.

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They write it as a medical procedure done in another state. So while clearly targeted it's not only abortion in theory.

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Hmm, so if I need a routine colonoscopy or want to have some dental work done, I get a paid long weekend. Not bad.

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My chiropractor is in Maine in the summers.

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Has to be unavailable where you are.

WHOOP!'91 said:

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bigjag19 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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I can't wait for a man to sue to get the same compensation.

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They write it as a medical procedure done in another state. So while clearly targeted it's not only abortion in theory.

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Hmm, so if I need a routine colonoscopy or want to have some dental work done, I get a paid long weekend. Not bad.

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if you can't get it done in your state, then you may have a case.

add tesla to the list:

https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2022/05/06/tesla-cover-travel-costs-workers-seeking-abortions-austin-health-roe-v-wade/9675285002/

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Austin-based automaker Tesla is covering travel costs for employees seeking out-of-state abortions, joining the ranks of major companies who've introduced a similar policy in the wake of new restrictions some states have implemented in the past few months.

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everyone boycotting tesla now! and Musk will still make a killin.

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damiond said:

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https://www.mprnews.org/story/2022/05/04/npr-companies-abortion-levis-amazon-citigroup

A benefit that murders a child. disgusting. It should be outlawed.

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I'll be extremely happy with the win.

For it to be a crime to cross a state line for an abortion, there would have to be a federal statute making it a crime.

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Make it so that any company funding an abortion for an employee that does operations within the state gets fined $1 million per violation. Give whistleblowers protection and awards for reporting company violators.

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You are naive if you dont think a new version of medical tourism will emerge when abortion rights get sent back down to the state level.

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If you fine them millions every time they are caught, it will stop real quick.

When it comes to preventing genocide and murder, all options go on the table.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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Apparently Amazon will now pay $4,000 for women to have an abortion. Do the women get a $4,000 bonus for keeping their children? It’s not pro-choice, it’s pro-abortion.

— ULTRA POSO 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) May 6, 2022

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When the stats came out that showed 95% of women do it because they wanted to that should have told everyone that it was always pro abortion and not pro choice. It was never about choice and always about pushing a global scale blood sacrifice.

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add tesla to the list:

https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2022/05/06/tesla-cover-travel-costs-workers-seeking-abortions-austin-health-roe-v-wade/9675285002/

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Austin-based automaker Tesla is covering travel costs for employees seeking out-of-state abortions, joining the ranks of major companies who've introduced a similar policy in the wake of new restrictions some states have implemented in the past few months.

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everyone boycotting tesla now! and Musk will still make a killin.

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You know you have true "F'k you" money when you're happy to piss off both sides of the political spectrum, and still make a killing.

bigjag19 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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bigjag19 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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I can't wait for a man to sue to get the same compensation.

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They write it as a medical procedure done in another state. So while clearly targeted it's not only abortion in theory.

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Hmm, so if I need a routine colonoscopy or want to have some dental work done, I get a paid long weekend. Not bad.

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My chiropractor is in Maine in the summers.

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Has to be unavailable where you are.

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She is a very special chiropractor.

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tysker said:

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You are naive if you dont think a new version of medical tourism will emerge when abortion rights get sent back down to the state level.

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If you fine them millions every time they are caught, it will stop real quick.

When it comes to preventing genocide and murder, all options go on the table.

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This is the same lame argument used by climate change wackos

tysker said:

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BAP Enthusiast said:

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tysker said:

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You are naive if you dont think a new version of medical tourism will emerge when abortion rights get sent back down to the state level.

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If you fine them millions every time they are caught, it will stop real quick.

When it comes to preventing genocide and murder, all options go on the table.

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This is the same lame argument used by climate change wackos

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Except this time it's actually true. 60 million babies have been murdered. Comparing the two is asinine.

aggiedata said:

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Disney—the world's largest children's entertainment company—has adopted a benefits program that will subsidize out-of-state abortions for employees and support sex change operations for their minor children.

— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) May 5, 2022

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Let me get this straight...

Disney's business model is dependent upon families having children, so that they can then turn around and spend their money on all things Disney that is geared towards families with children.

Thus, they are going to adopt a position that reduces their business plan's target population. Do I understand that correctly?

What the hell are they teaching in business schools these days?

I'd rather companies pay than taxpayers. At least investors have a choice where their money goes.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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Apparently Amazon will now pay $4,000 for women to have an abortion. Do the women get a $4,000 bonus for keeping their children? It’s not pro-choice, it’s pro-abortion.

— MAGA King Poso 👑 (@JackPosobiec) May 6, 2022

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There are better arguments to be made since Amazon pays 20 weeks maternity for "birthing people". It should be about Amazon donating $4000 to adoption charity everytime they payout $4k for an abortion.

D-Fens said:

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StandUpforAmerica said:

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Apparently Amazon will now pay $4,000 for women to have an abortion. Do the women get a $4,000 bonus for keeping their children? It’s not pro-choice, it’s pro-abortion.

— MAGA King Poso 👑 (@JackPosobiec) May 6, 2022

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There are better arguments to be made since Amazon pays 20 weeks maternity for "birthing people". It should be about Amazon donating $4000 to adoption charity everytime they payout $4k for an abortion.

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Amazon probably gets more than $4000 worth of productivity from an employee at work for those 12 weeks if they don't have the baby. It is a business decision. Handmaidens Tale, indeed.

If a woman has the ability to terminate the life of a child, a man should have the right to end the financial obligation of a child during that same time period. Especially if the child is not the biological offspring. Which is the more severe?

My wallet my choice.

Funny how these progressives have somehow convinced people they can't get their abortions now.

aggiedata said:

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Disney—the world's largest children's entertainment company—has adopted a benefits program that will subsidize out-of-state abortions for employees and support sex change operations for their minor children.

— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) May 5, 2022

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It's funny how Republicans have somehow convinced people they care about people when they know, and freely admit, the only people that will be truly restricted by their big government policies will be those without means and who can least afford to have children. The common response to this fact being "dump the unwanted children into the foster care system" where our Republican-controlled government (whom Republican's always say 'can't do anything right') proves their supposition, once again, by underfunding and mismanaging to create an abhorrent system that delivers the poorest quality of life, and in extreme cases, a miserable death. It's all about illogical arguments made in bad faith to maintain one's perceived identity.

not nearly as funny as democrats claiming to care about people yet are pro-killing babies and pro-keeping black people in poverty for generations.

Not nearly as funny as Republicans having a more extreme position than people in the Dark Ages by thinking personhood begins at the moment of conception.

Carolin_Gallego said:

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Not nearly as funny as Republicans having a more extreme position than people in the Dark Ages by thinking personhood begins at the moment of conception.

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Not nearly as funny as Dems having a more extreme position than people in Old Testament times sacrificing newborns to Moloch. Late-term and time-of-birth abortion disgusts a huge majority of Americans, but is right there in the bill the Dems voted on yesterday.

That's not the woman's decision, it's a medical one, and I'm sure you know that.

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(9) A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient's life or health.

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Carolin_Gallego said:

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It's funny how Republicans have somehow convinced people they care about people when they know, and freely admit, the only people that will be truly restricted by their big government policies will be those without means and who can least afford to have children. The common response to this fact being "dump the unwanted children into the foster care system" where our Republican-controlled government (whom Republican's always say 'can't do anything right') proves their supposition, once again, by underfunding and mismanaging to create an abhorrent system that delivers the poorest quality of life, and in extreme cases, a miserable death. It's all about illogical arguments made in bad faith to maintain one's perceived identity.

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I feel embarrassed for you because not only did you use a diamond icon for your own post but you did it for that garbage post.

I love the diamond icon. It's the best one and I choose to use it the way I want.

Carolin_Gallego said:

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It's funny how Republicans have somehow convinced people they care about people when they know, and freely admit, the only people that will be truly restricted by their big government policies will be those without means and who can least afford to have children. The common response to this fact being "dump the unwanted children into the foster care system" where our Republican-controlled government (whom Republican's always say 'can't do anything right') proves their supposition, once again, by underfunding and mismanaging to create an abhorrent system that delivers the poorest quality of life, and in extreme cases, a miserable death. It's all about illogical arguments made in bad faith to maintain one's perceived identity.

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maybe they should stop having unprotected sex? shocking truth, drink it down.

Carolin_Gallego said:

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It's funny how Republicans have somehow convinced people they care about people when they know, and freely admit, the only people that will be truly restricted by their big government policies will be those without means and who can least afford to have children. The common response to this fact being "dump the unwanted children into the foster care system" where our Republican-controlled government (whom Republican's always say 'can't do anything right') proves their supposition, once again, by underfunding and mismanaging to create an abhorrent system that delivers the poorest quality of life, and in extreme cases, a miserable death. It's all about illogical arguments made in bad faith to maintain one's perceived identity.

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This is like arguing it's ok to kill homeless people and dementia patients if we don't immediately have a plan to adequately care for all of them.

Carolin_Gallego said:

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I love the diamond icon. It's the best one and I choose to use it the way I want.

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Your arguments are on the level of remedial 6th grader.

Pretty embarrassing.

Carolin_Gallego said:

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Not nearly as funny as Republicans having a more extreme position than people in the Dark Ages by thinking personhood begins at the moment of conception.

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"Personhood" is an arbitrary and meaningless term. A fetus is no more or less a person (in any meaningful sense) than someone in a persistent vegetative state or someone with end stage dementia. Everything that made them a person is absent except for the most basic underlying biological reality, including the ability to survive on their own apart from advanced medical technology.

There is no argument for aborting fetuses that doesn't, by necessity, logically allow for the killing of certain groups you still consider possessing "personhood"

Carolin_Gallego said:

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That's not the woman's decision, it's a medical one, and I'm sure you know that.

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In every scenario, delivering the child in the third trimester when the mothers life is at risk is the standard of care. This is because it's faster and, in most cases, statistically safer than what is required to do to abort a third trimester fetus.

Any physician who offers an abortion instead of just delivering the baby in that scenario is doing so as a choice, not a medical necessity.

You say it is an arbitrary and meaningless term and yet you defined it perfectly but then say it's illogical to use the definition when making decisions when that is exactly what the medical community already does with their right to refuse medical intervention.

You also miss the important distinction that the aborted never had personhood, and may never have it due to common and natural causes.