Keegan99 said:

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Mickey's copyright ends in 2024 unless extended.

That might be difficult in a GOP Congress.

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They've clearly got a strategy in mind for if/when it lapses. They've started using footage from Steamboat Willie in their pre-movie logo thing, and even more than before they're using the mouse as a logo/trademark on everything they do. That's how they're going to go at it - they're going to say that even if they don't hold the exclusive copyright to the character, the character is their brand's universally recognized trademark. Effectively they can say that Mickey is the equivalent of the golden arches for McDonald's or the Nike swoosh or the Apple logo - everyone knows when you see Mickey Mouse on something, that is the mark of a genuine Disney product. So they can say anyone else using Mickey Mouse for something is at best illegally using Disney's trademarked imagery in a way that will confuse consumers and harm Disney's ability to market their products, and at worst producing counterfeit Disney products.

Short version is that even if/when the copyright lapses, anyone daring to use Mickey is going to have an army of Disney lawyers after them.

Go search ETSY and get back to us.

ActualTalkingThermos said:

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Keegan99 said:

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Mickey's copyright ends in 2024 unless extended.

That might be difficult in a GOP Congress.

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They've clearly got a strategy in mind for if/when it lapses. They've started using footage from Steamboat Willie in their pre-movie logo thing, and even more than before they're using the mouse as a logo/trademark on everything they do. That's how they're going to go at it - they're going to say that even if they don't hold the exclusive copyright to the character, the character is their brand's universally recognized trademark. Effectively they can say that Mickey is the equivalent of the golden arches for McDonald's or the Nike swoosh or the Apple logo - everyone knows when you see Mickey Mouse on something, that is the mark of a genuine Disney product. So they can say anyone else using Mickey Mouse for something is at best illegally using Disney's trademarked imagery in a way that will confuse consumers and harm Disney's ability to market their products, and at worst producing counterfeit Disney products.

Short version is that even if/when the copyright lapses, anyone daring to use Mickey is going to have an army of Disney lawyers after them.

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Disney already maintains dozens of trademarks for Mickey Mouse (and their other characters) for a variety of classes. Plus, trademarks are first to use, not first to register.

ETA: TESS Shows over 2100 hits for trademarks held by Disney. Copyrights and trademarks differ in functionality. What you describe is already protected by their trademarks.

ActualTalkingThermos said:

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Keegan99 said:

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Mickey's copyright ends in 2024 unless extended.

That might be difficult in a GOP Congress.

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They've clearly got a strategy in mind for if/when it lapses. They've started using footage from Steamboat Willie in their pre-movie logo thing, and even more than before they're using the mouse as a logo/trademark on everything they do. That's how they're going to go at it - they're going to say that even if they don't hold the exclusive copyright to the character, the character is their brand's universally recognized trademark. Effectively they can say that Mickey is the equivalent of the golden arches for McDonald's or the Nike swoosh or the Apple logo - everyone knows when you see Mickey Mouse on something, that is the mark of a genuine Disney product. So they can say anyone else using Mickey Mouse for something is at best illegally using Disney's trademarked imagery in a way that will confuse consumers and harm Disney's ability to market their products, and at worst producing counterfeit Disney products.

Short version is that even if/when the copyright lapses, anyone daring to use Mickey is going to have an army of Disney lawyers after them.

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Here's a pretty good analysis of this issue:

https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2021/02/19/what-happens-when-disney-doesnt-own-mickey-mouse-anymore/

Yikes. I've polled Disney and cannot emphasize enough how abysmal these numbers are for them.

Disney's name ID is 100%. Their fav/unfav rating was 77-21 (+56) last year. Their pos-neg rating is now 33-30 (or +3).

Entertainment brand ratings shouldn't be on par w/ politicians. https://t.co/576zXg2Pce pic.twitter.com/A08c2en1bz

— Giancarlo Sopo (@GiancarloSopo) May 15, 2022

God it feels good whatching dog**** Disney swirl the drain

**** Disney

Elon needs to buy Disney

will25u said:

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Yikes. I've polled Disney and cannot emphasize enough how abysmal these numbers are for them.

Disney's name ID is 100%. Their fav/unfav rating was 77-21 (+56) last year. Their pos-neg rating is now 33-30 (or +3).

Entertainment brand ratings shouldn't be on par w/ politicians. https://t.co/576zXg2Pce pic.twitter.com/A08c2en1bz

— Giancarlo Sopo (@GiancarloSopo) May 15, 2022

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I am still shocked that they have not been buried with shareholder lawsuits. That polling data from last year to this year alone would result in a bloodbath in the executive suite of most publicly traded companies. Couple it with the drop in share prices and the fact that it was an entirely unforced error that had nothing to do with their business operations, and there is no reason anybody involved at the top of Disney should still be employed there.

More scared of the leftist social media mob than they are shareholders. Granted, many shareholders are now the leftist social media mob and would rather lose their money than see Disney stop lefitst propaganda.

petroleo y agua said:

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**** Disney

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You're too old for them

So is Peter Schorsch just delusional, or what?

He's trumpeting a narrow win in what should be an easy blowout. Politicians struggle to get above 50% approval. An entertainment company that runs theme parks and shovels out beloved content should clear 85% on a bad day

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petroleo y agua said:

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**** Disney

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You're too old for them

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My kids aren't; in fact, the Mouse would prefer them mentally ill.

petroleo y agua said:

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BigRobSA said:

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petroleo y agua said:

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**** Disney

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You're too old for them

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My kids aren't; in fact, the Mouse would prefer them mentally ill.

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They don't want them ill, they just want them confused. They are easier to groom when they are confused.

Bankeraggie said:

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TexasAggie73 said:

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This will cause a 25% tax increase for property owners in Orange County. Disney's 1 billion dollar bond will go to the county, Disney will no longer have to pay $136 million to Reedy Creek. Disney will still continue to pay around $455 million to the state and counties.
The big difference is that the county will have to provide all the infrastructure for the WDW property and will have to approve their construction projects. Tell me who wins here, it's not the tax payers.

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I noticed not a lot of comment on this factual analysis. Lots of rage about "pedos" but Desantis has financially devastated homeowners in two counties and taken a billion dollars of debt from a business to the state.

It is literally one of the biggest fails in political history. Can you imagine if Biden shifted a billion in debt from a business to the states? Everyone here would be yelling socialism!

Ron got punked worse than the guy who tried to fight Tyson and as usual, taxpayers will pay the price.

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We'll, that didn't age well.

redcrayon said:

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Bankeraggie said:

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TexasAggie73 said:

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This will cause a 25% tax increase for property owners in Orange County. Disney's 1 billion dollar bond will go to the county, Disney will no longer have to pay $136 million to Reedy Creek. Disney will still continue to pay around $455 million to the state and counties.
The big difference is that the county will have to provide all the infrastructure for the WDW property and will have to approve their construction projects. Tell me who wins here, it's not the tax payers.

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I noticed not a lot of comment on this factual analysis. Lots of rage about "pedos" but Desantis has financially devastated homeowners in two counties and taken a billion dollars of debt from a business to the state.

It is literally one of the biggest fails in political history. Can you imagine if Biden shifted a billion in debt from a business to the states? Everyone here would be yelling socialism!

Ron got punked worse than the guy who tried to fight Tyson and as usual, taxpayers will pay the price.

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We'll, that didn't age well.

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redcrayon said:

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Bankeraggie said:

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TexasAggie73 said:

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This will cause a 25% tax increase for property owners in Orange County. Disney's 1 billion dollar bond will go to the county, Disney will no longer have to pay $136 million to Reedy Creek. Disney will still continue to pay around $455 million to the state and counties.
The big difference is that the county will have to provide all the infrastructure for the WDW property and will have to approve their construction projects. Tell me who wins here, it's not the tax payers.

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I noticed not a lot of comment on this factual analysis. Lots of rage about "pedos" but Desantis has financially devastated homeowners in two counties and taken a billion dollars of debt from a business to the state.

It is literally one of the biggest fails in political history. Can you imagine if Biden shifted a billion in debt from a business to the states? Everyone here would be yelling socialism!

Ron got punked worse than the guy who tried to fight Tyson and as usual, taxpayers will pay the price.

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We'll, that didn't age well.

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It never does.

I am always wrong said:

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redcrayon said:

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Bankeraggie said:

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TexasAggie73 said:

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This will cause a 25% tax increase for property owners in Orange County. Disney's 1 billion dollar bond will go to the county, Disney will no longer have to pay $136 million to Reedy Creek. Disney will still continue to pay around $455 million to the state and counties.
The big difference is that the county will have to provide all the infrastructure for the WDW property and will have to approve their construction projects. Tell me who wins here, it's not the tax payers.

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I noticed not a lot of comment on this factual analysis. Lots of rage about "pedos" but Desantis has financially devastated homeowners in two counties and taken a billion dollars of debt from a business to the state.

It is literally one of the biggest fails in political history. Can you imagine if Biden shifted a billion in debt from a business to the states? Everyone here would be yelling socialism!

Ron got punked worse than the guy who tried to fight Tyson and as usual, taxpayers will pay the price.

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We'll, that didn't age well.

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It never does.

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Where did these two political experts go?

BREAKING: Gov. Ron DeSantis announces signing of Reedy Creek bill finalizing stripping Disney of special privileges, appointing a state board, and ensuring debts are not transferred to taxpayers

"Disney's gonna be treated like Sea World is treated." pic.twitter.com/aJexecjJ7V

— Florida’s Voice (@FLVoiceNews) February 27, 2023

Tough comparison to SeaWorld. What will be done to ensure the Turtle Talk with Crush trainers are protected from a snapping attack?

will25u said:

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BREAKING: Gov. Ron DeSantis announces signing of Reedy Creek bill finalizing stripping Disney of special privileges, appointing a state board, and ensuring debts are not transferred to taxpayers

"Disney's gonna be treated like Sea World is treated." pic.twitter.com/aJexecjJ7V

— Florida’s Voice (@FLVoiceNews) February 27, 2023

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The grooming mouse just got released to a den of hungry cats …. Screw Disney and everything they represent .. how have people been F Ed over so long by this company?

fullback44 said:

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The grooming mouse just got released to a den of hungry cats …. Screw Disney and everything they represent .. how have people been F Ed over so long by this company?

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You still have cable? Based on prior posts you seem to. You're paying more money than you think to the mouse and all that they represent. Way more than I give to any groomers ($0).

Rapier108 said:

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They will burn the company to the ground in the name of wokeism and Marxism.

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Liberals ruin everything.

Literally.

I hate that every damn thing in life now is made political.

Iger may come around more than folks think. He saw his legacy being pissed all over by Chapek and elbowed his way back in. His focus is on making money which given the fierce competition now on content means investment in the parks and tieing content to the parks. These changes have been discussed publicly by Iger and folks who analyze Disney,

Disney plays to the popular drums in order to drive the traffic, Unfortunately for them and the rest of us, that meant following the woke mob. The tides are turning with that and Iger has multiple ways he can explain this change - " we are listening to our market", "we must respect all values", "DeSantis is making us do these things or he will hit us harder with more regulation" etc. You get the idea,

Or maybe I am just hopeful those things are happening and will happen. But there is reason for that hope... finally.

I hope I am wrong but I saw an excerpt of his return speech and it was all

annie88 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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They will burn the company to the ground in the name of wokeism and Marxism.

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Liberals ruin everything.

Literally.

I hate that every damn thing in life now is made political.

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Give it some more time and give them the ability and they will literally look at the family's political leaning when deciding whether a kid is put on a transplant list. Before some of our resident libs call b.s. the left already has a track record of doing this kind of stuff in the Soviet Union/DDR/Cuba and currently China.

This a great movie that touches on that
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/

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annie88 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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They will burn the company to the ground in the name of wokeism and Marxism.

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Liberals ruin everything.

Literally.

I hate that every damn thing in life now is made political.

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Give it some more time and give them the ability and they will literally look at the family's political leaning when deciding whether a kid is put on a transplant list. Before some of our resident libs call b.s. the left already has a track record of doing this kind of stuff in the Soviet Union/DDR/Cuba and currently China.

This a great movie that touches on that
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/

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They actually already have. They denied people transplants based on them not having the Covid vaccine.

Same thing.

I remain suspect, but hopeful.

And if he disappoints and doesn't, then I wish nothing well for the execs and shareholders of the company (and I am a shareholder).