Biden then drove by in a Cadillac Lyriq, joking it was an Uber. “It’s a beautiful car, but I like the Corvette,” he says. pic.twitter.com/8YCQZzguVk
— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) September 14, 2022
Biden is so senile he drove the car inside!
Biden then drove by in a Cadillac Lyriq, joking it was an Uber. “It’s a beautiful car, but I like the Corvette,” he says. pic.twitter.com/8YCQZzguVk
— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) September 14, 2022
nortex97 said:As temperatures get colder, here's a reminder that electric vehicles lose as much as 40% of their range in the winter.
— Daniel Turner (@DanielTurnerPTF) September 14, 2022
Teslag said:nortex97 said:As temperatures get colder, here's a reminder that electric vehicles lose as much as 40% of their range in the winter.
— Daniel Turner (@DanielTurnerPTF) September 14, 2022
What a load of ****
Teslag said:
"Winter" varies widely by day and location. A better term would have been "extreme cold" but that doesn't get the response tweet author wanted.
True. Thermal run away has it's advantages. Some EV's do worse (this notes the older Tesla 3's anyway didn't have a battery heater so they were losing more than average in the cold).TRADUCTOR said:Teslag said:
"Winter" varies widely by day and location. A better term would have been "extreme cold" but that doesn't get the response tweet author wanted.
Plus the author did not mention how toasty warm battery fire can be.
Tesla service vehicle is a Ford 🤷♂️ pic.twitter.com/iS921PQUPZ
— Freedom ❌ 🇺🇸 (@AlwaysInAmerica) September 14, 2022
Are the ford vans electric yet are they still using gas?Teslag said:
What should it be?
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/canadian-man-says-tesla-locked-out-until-changes-batteryQuote:
Canadian Tesla owner says automaker locked him out of his car until he pays $26,000 for new battery
Some Tesla owners have voiced frustration about the electric vehicles, including a group in Norway that went on a hunger strike last month.
Well I'm glad musk thinks that fossil fuels are good.Teslag said:
Probably gas. Musk has said that fossil fuels remain a key part of our energy needs. Not sure why people would be surprised they use gas powered service trucks with that in mind. The batteries in the actual Teslas run on electricity derived from fossil fuels for the most part as well.
Boisbriand Supercharger in Quebec today, ICE’d by a Lamborghini
— Drive Tesla 🇨🇦 (@DriveTeslaca) September 12, 2022
📸: Jean-Phillipe G pic.twitter.com/ZizlALUWOI
Quote:
The cost of charging an electric car has surged due to the rise in energy prices, prompting fears it will put off drivers from buying them, the RAC said.
It said electric car (EV) owners who use "rapid" public charging points were paying almost the same for electricity as they would for petrol per mile.
Charging the cars at home is cheaper, but domestic bills are also rising.
Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been blamed for much of the recent rise in electricity and gas prices.
The RAC said its research showed the cost to charge an electric car on a pay-as-you-go basis at a publicly accessible rapid charger had increased by 42% since May to an average of 63.29p per kWh.
The hike in price means drivers who only use the public network to charge vehicles pay around 18p per mile for electricity.
nortex97 said:
EV charging costs rise to ICE refueling in UK.Quote:
The cost of charging an electric car has surged due to the rise in energy prices, prompting fears it will put off drivers from buying them, the RAC said.
It said electric car (EV) owners who use "rapid" public charging points were paying almost the same for electricity as they would for petrol per mile.
Charging the cars at home is cheaper, but domestic bills are also rising.
Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been blamed for much of the recent rise in electricity and gas prices.
The RAC said its research showed the cost to charge an electric car on a pay-as-you-go basis at a publicly accessible rapid charger had increased by 42% since May to an average of 63.29p per kWh.
The hike in price means drivers who only use the public network to charge vehicles pay around 18p per mile for electricity.
In some categories…Quote:
Savings are still significant for comparable vehicles
Let me know where you see cheap resale/used evs. Might be worth the battery risk if they're as cheap as you claim. Would prefer a Tesla, and would take one 4 years old or so.Get Off My Lawn said:In some categories…Quote:
Savings are still significant for comparable vehicles
1. Initial cost (you say even)
2. Cost of operation (adv. Tesla)
3. Cost of maintenance (adv. Tesla)
4. Cost of downtime (mixed as Tesla guarantees downtime on any long trip and is rendered useless in a no-power scenario, while ICE require planned oil changes and are more at risk of breakdown)
5. Resale (huge adv. ICE)
6. Period of ownership (huge adv. ICE as you "total" 2 battery packs in the time a single modern ICE wears down)
If you like your Tesla and it's daily convenience - congrats. But there's a huge depreciation issue that can get ignored in the cost of ownership discussion.
A Chevy Bolt? Sure. But I've heard several stories of people buying used Tesla selling them at a profit a few years later. There is a huge base of fanboys willing to pay for the name.Get Off My Lawn said:In some categories…Quote:
Savings are still significant for comparable vehicles
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5. Resale (huge adv. ICE)
YouBet said:
Was meeting with my boss last couple of days. He drove up here to Dallas from Austin in his Tesla. He was bragging about how reliable it has been.
And then we walk out to it and it's dead. So dead he can't even open his doors because they aren't mechanical. So now he can't get his luggage. Tesla had to send someone out to plug something into the car so we could get the doors open to get his luggage.
Had to haul it back to dealership and he had to buy a plane ticket and fly home because they can't even look at it until next week.
Dumb.
YouBet said:
Was meeting with my boss last couple of days. He drove up here to Dallas from Austin in his Tesla. He was bragging about how reliable it has been.
And then we walk out to it and it's dead. So dead he can't even open his doors because they aren't mechanical. So now he can't get his luggage. Tesla had to send someone out to plug something into the car so we could get the doors open to get his luggage.
Had to haul it back to dealership and he had to buy a plane ticket and fly home because they can't even look at it until next week.
Dumb.
BCG Disciple said:Let me know where you see cheap resale/used evs. Might be worth the battery risk if they're as cheap as you claim. Would prefer a Tesla, and would take one 4 years old or so.Get Off My Lawn said:In some categories…Quote:
Savings are still significant for comparable vehicles
1. Initial cost (you say even)
2. Cost of operation (adv. Tesla)
3. Cost of maintenance (adv. Tesla)
4. Cost of downtime (mixed as Tesla guarantees downtime on any long trip and is rendered useless in a no-power scenario, while ICE require planned oil changes and are more at risk of breakdown)
5. Resale (huge adv. ICE)
6. Period of ownership (huge adv. ICE as you "total" 2 battery packs in the time a single modern ICE wears down)
If you like your Tesla and it's daily convenience - congrats. But there's a huge depreciation issue that can get ignored in the cost of ownership discussion.
AgBandsman said:BCG Disciple said:Let me know where you see cheap resale/used evs. Might be worth the battery risk if they're as cheap as you claim. Would prefer a Tesla, and would take one 4 years old or so.Get Off My Lawn said:In some categories…Quote:
Savings are still significant for comparable vehicles
1. Initial cost (you say even)
2. Cost of operation (adv. Tesla)
3. Cost of maintenance (adv. Tesla)
4. Cost of downtime (mixed as Tesla guarantees downtime on any long trip and is rendered useless in a no-power scenario, while ICE require planned oil changes and are more at risk of breakdown)
5. Resale (huge adv. ICE)
6. Period of ownership (huge adv. ICE as you "total" 2 battery packs in the time a single modern ICE wears down)
If you like your Tesla and it's daily convenience - congrats. But there's a huge depreciation issue that can get ignored in the cost of ownership discussion.
iPhones are designed to go from $1,000 value to $150 in 2 years, and you really think EV's will hold their value more than ICE?
EV's will be completely connected to the internet, and won't even be able to move without an internet connection. They will have a menu of add-on extras with monthly subscriptions. Your car will know your credit card number. It will know when you drive to and from work. How fast you drive to work. How bad the traffic is when you drove to work and how inebriated you are behind the wheel. How many miles you drive monthly will be automatically sent to daddy government for taxing purposes.
It's basically a smartphone on wheels.
GAC06 said:
Why would an EV be more dependent on the internet than a modern ICE vehicle?
It wouldn't. That's possibly the dumbest argument yet on this thread and that's really saying something