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nortex97 said:

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Teslag said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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Porsche is consistently one of the most reliable brands

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He should already know that since he got absolutely owned on this thread by Porsche owners

https://texags.com/forums/46/topics/3311583/replies/62880225#62880225

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Digs up 2022 thread with 911 fans to prove I 'should already know that because I got absolutely owned…'

LOL. "Always check Teslag links."

Dude, you are a self-professed BMW fan/long time owner/lessor. Your credibility about German car long-term reliability/engineering is…not real good for many of us. In fact, I seem to recall you noting you'd never own a BMW after the warranty expired or some such.

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You do realize a BMW isn't a Porsche right?

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Once again your reading comprehension is astoundingly revealing.

My reading comprehension is fine. What does me saying I won't have a BMW out of warranty have to do with Porsche reliability?

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My reading comprehension is fine. What does me saying I won't have a BMW out of warranty have to do with Porsche reliability?

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Your credibility about German car long-term reliability/engineering is…not real good for many of us.

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Teslag said:

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My reading comprehension is fine. What does me saying I won't have a BMW out of warranty have to do with Porsche reliability?

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Your credibility about German car long-term reliability/engineering is…not real good for many of us.

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Why are you lumping all German cars together? Porsche is known for great reliability. BMW's are not. Both German.

And it's not many of us. It's you. As you found out on the automotive board.

"not real good for many of us"

Because it's convenient to make the argument, like once upon a time I saw a line at an EV charger so therefore lines at EV chargers are common and they're common because they're universally broken.

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not real good for many of us.

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Who is "us"? You and the guy that doesn't understand the difference between slowed growth and shrinking sales?

Man you got owned on the Porsche thread just like you are on this thread.

I bet you never drove a Tesla or been in one for more than a few days so how can you be on authority on everything EV? You should really stick to things you know or have experience about.

I just charged my Tesla to 315miles, drove from Austin to Houston (180 miles), got to hotel with 125miles. I had my family of 5 and truck completely full of luggage all highway. I drove past 6 superchargers on the highway.

When I drive back to Austin, I will be passing two Buccees with superchargers, go grab food for 20 minutes and be around 200 miles range easily making it back to Austin with around 50 miles left.

I will say improvement since my 2020 vs 2023 Model Y has been amazing. No way could I drive 180 miles and lose only 190 miles in range esp fully loaded and almost all highway miles.

After about 2 wks in a Tesla, you will have almost zero range anxiety. Your concerns about range anxiety tells me you have never really driven a Tesla just like most people who gets surveyed.

That is the single most peculiar thing on this thread. People that have never driven these cars telling us what it's like to own them.

It's quite staggering that so many gas car owners are worried about charging and long trips, while the overwhelming majority of Tesla owners feels exactly the opposite. This is where education through ads makes sense. https://t.co/o8PCKotQFY pic.twitter.com/PbQNaK6y81

— Martin Viecha (@MartinViecha) March 9, 2024

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That is the single most peculiar thing on this thread. People that have never driven these cars telling us what it's like to own them.

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To be honest, I have had more anxiety with an ICE. I drive home from work/sporting events at 10pm or later, Yellow gas tank light goes up, and the last thing I want to do is have my car full of kids pouring gas at an unknown area.

In 3 years and close to 100k miles, I have had range anxiety once and it was my fault for not being prepared.

Ask anyone who puts range anxiety as an issue, and have them keep a journal of their last 365 days. I bet, there are very few days that they went over 200 miles unless they went out of town. I have zero concerns about charging time and if I drive anywhere within 3 hours of Austin.

I will be driving about 450 miles this weekend from Austin to Houston and will spend 20 minutes at a Buccees Supercharger which I would have done anyways with an ICE. Did I mention that the Tesla drives better than anything in their price range?

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Man you got owned on the Porsche thread just like you are on this thread.

I bet you never drove a Tesla or been in one for more than a few days so how can you be on authority on everything EV? You should really stick to things you know or have experience about.

I just charged my Tesla to 315miles, drove from Austin to Houston (180 miles), got to hotel with 125miles. I had my family of 5 and truck completely full of luggage all highway. I drove past 6 superchargers on the highway.

When I drive back to Austin, I will be passing two Buccees with superchargers, go grab food for 20 minutes and be around 200 miles range easily making it back to Austin with around 50 miles left.

I will say improvement since my 2020 vs 2023 Model Y has been amazing. No way could I drive 180 miles and lose only 190 miles in range esp fully loaded and almost all highway miles.

After about 2 wks in a Tesla, you will have almost zero range anxiety. Your concerns about range anxiety tells me you have never really driven a Tesla just like most people who gets surveyed.

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It is so funny to be 'owned' by BMW Tesla fan's about Porsche reliability. Y'all really must not have a single hour of engineering classes between you. Porsche is just a brand of VW nowadays, and the 911 is a relatively small piece of their business. It's incredibly expensive to own a modern Porsche out of warranty for a thousand different reasons, and no rabid fan section of fully vaccinated Tesla drivers have a clue about it.



And then…another happy anecdote about your love for your tesla. I will never own an EV, which…is what this thread was started to discuss. The hyper-sensitive nature of the EV fan crowd about having that position is the absolutely most hilarious part, but the cross section of these folks who were/are also BMW fans really takes the cake.

LOL again.

"Have we reached peak EV?"

Wyoming legislation to phase out EV sales by 2035.

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LOL again.

"Have we reached peak EV?"

Wyoming legislation to phase out EV sales by 2035.

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So you are aghast at EV mandates saying mandates are bad but it seems you must support ICE mandates. Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth.

I find the legislation interesting. I didn't write or endorse it. First I have heard of its kind. Obviously there is a growing political push back on evs.

Will see if this has a chance at being enacted or what the rationale is. First pass take i would see this as not real good.

Another foot in mouth

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/porsche/macan

Is the 2024 Porsche Macan Reliable?

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The 2024 Porsche Macan has a predicted reliability score of 84 out of 100. A J.D. Power predicted reliability score of 91-100 is considered the Best, 81-90 is Great, 70-80 is Average and 0-69 is Fair and considered below average.

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JD Power exists to tell people to buy the luxury car/truck/suv they like. You didn't watch the video, as usual, just snarking on about how reliable Porsche is. There's no doubt these are expensive to maintain vehicles, no matter what the BMW-Porsche-Tesla fan club has to say. They sell for a premium new because they are status symbols, which appeal to vain/rich/silly people.



$11K a year for regular maintenance. Sure bro, you are really dragging me about how cheap/reliable Porsche/VW's are.

You I would consider an expert on silly vehicles, fake vaccine knowledge, and global proxy war support/cheerleading.

"These aren't reliable because I say so"


And I love the goalpost shift from reliable to expensive to maintain.

I don't like my car telling me where I have to stop.

Driving an EV seems to take an attitudinal adjustment as to control of the driving experience moving from the driver to the vehicle.. Some personalities, like mine, just don't want to do that.

And sorry, for me, a 20 minute stop is about 16 minutes longer than my normal stop. Yes, I've timed it.

Then don't buy one. As the EV owners on this thread have said, repeatedly I might add, they aren't for everyone.

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The hyper-sensitive nature of the EV fan crowd about having that position is the absolutely most hilarious part

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No one here is being sensitive but you. Everyone is having fun dunking on you over and over again, but you seem pretty fired up for a Saturday morning.

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The hyper-sensitive nature of the EV fan crowd about having that position is the absolutely most hilarious part

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No one here is being sensitive but you. Everyone is having fun dunking on you over and over again, but you seem pretty fired up for a Saturday morning.

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t's an EV fan club in the politics forum. Porsche's are perfectly reliable when dumping 10K+ a year into them post-warranty. Of course you guys all think it's a great point/slam dunk. It's the single highest repair/maintenace cost brand out there, when new even.

The nexus between German car fans and Tesla/EV's and vaccines/war fans is absolutely fascinating. And I think most of you consider yourselves politically conservative too which bemuses me even more.

Your link says a Porsche is a whopping $600 a year more to maintain than a Ford.


And again that has nothing to do with reliability.

Teslag said:

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Your link says a Porsche is a whopping $600 a year more to maintain than a Ford.


And again that has nothing to do with reliability.

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Reading comprehension strikes again; that's while new/under warranty.

nortex97 said:

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Your link says a Porsche is a whopping $600 a year more to maintain than a Ford.


And again that has nothing to do with reliability.

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Reading comprehension strikes again; that's while new/under warranty.

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Where does it say this in your consumer affairs link?

nortex97 said:

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Your link says a Porsche is a whopping $600 a year more to maintain than a Ford.


And again that has nothing to do with reliability.

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Reading comprehension strikes again; that's while new/under warranty.

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I love how you frequently saying reading comprehension fails someone when it is you that has been frequently pointed out as having posted an article that says something totally different than the point you are trying to make with it.

You, my friend, are the one who struggles with reading comprehension (or you likely just look at the headline and don't actually read the full article like this thread)

Kansas Kid said:

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nortex97 said:

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Teslag said:

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Your link says a Porsche is a whopping $600 a year more to maintain than a Ford.


And again that has nothing to do with reliability.

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Reading comprehension strikes again; that's while new/under warranty.

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I love how you frequently saying reading comprehension fails someone when it is you that has been frequently pointed out as having posted an article that says something totally different than the point you are trying to make with it.

You, my friend, are the one who struggles with reading comprehension (or you likely just look at the headline and don't actually read the full article like this thread)

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I read the entire consumer affairs article. He literally pulled the under warranty part out of his ass.

Kansas Kid said:

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Teslag said:

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Your link says a Porsche is a whopping $600 a year more to maintain than a Ford.


And again that has nothing to do with reliability.

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Reading comprehension strikes again; that's while new/under warranty.

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I love how you frequently saying reading comprehension fails someone when it is you that has been frequently pointed out as having posted an article that says something totally different than the point you are trying to make with it.

You, my friend, are the one who struggles with reading comprehension (or you likely just look at the headline and don't actually read the full article like this thread)

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The issue is mainly around Teslag, who lies repeatedly/frequently about what I have posted/claimed/linked and then often claims insight into what I meant/thought/felt/really wanted to say.

But you know that, already, as does he.

The EVangelists will not allow dissent, and it's like stepping on an ant hill when one of 'us' posts here. Porsche's costs a fortune to maintain/repair. They are gussied up VW's and the dealers also do everything they can to bring owners in for services/repairs. I know, I actually own a VW product (Audi), and have for almost 10 years now. Warranty cost and service costs are directly analogous to service requirements. Their Porsche brand just takes it to the next level.

Anyway, I will never own an EV. I've yet to sit in a Tesla in the front row (I had a couple Ubers), in case some of you are wondering. Hoping to keep my streak alive.

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t's like stepping on an ant hill when one of 'us' posts here

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More like stepping on a rake

Devastating.

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LOL again.

"Have we reached peak EV?"

Wyoming legislation to phase out EV sales by 2035.

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What type of dumbass thought you could take an EV "off-grid"? The whole point of off-grid is is that you AREN'T where charging stations are...

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What type of dumbass thought you could take an EV "off-grid"? The whole point of off-grid is is that you AREN'T where charging stations are...

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There are a lot of idiots out there. This is why I don't think anyone should 'trust' that an EV wasn't fast charged too many times if buying a used one. This might be the guy, not sure. Sounds like he tried to make it work but it was a very poor purchase, he just believed the propaganda.

The fast charging system outside the Tesla Supercharging network sucks. It is unreliable and not well planned out. There is a reason adapters have been made and soon many of the cars made by other manufacturers will switch to the Tesla connector. The Tesla system is reliable and has been spaced on the interstate and major highway system to avoid major gaps in where to charge. Most of them are also in good, safe locations unlike a number of gas stations I have had to visit on long distance trips.

The most remarkable thing about this 135 page thread is that anyone cares what anyone else drives.

My only concern is I don't want to be forced to drive something, and I don't want to pay for someone else to drive something.

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The most remarkable thing about this 135 page thread is that anyone cares what anyone else drives.

My only concern is I don't want to be force to drive something, and I don't want to pay for someone else to drive something.

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Amen to that.